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Baronic
post Oct 30 2006, 01:13 AM


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Hey there GPS users. I'm planning to get a GPS cuz i'm always lost in KL. I was wondering,....

a) is it worth the money? is the connection always available in Malaysia here?
b) my friend told me that GPS shows the road and direction, but dangerous to use cuz some roads are 1 way street, GPS doesnt tell. true or false? do advise, and the GPS programme that u use
c) wats the difference between 16 channel and 32 channel??

any other pointers for someone who never use GPS before?

looking to buy bluetooth GPS for Ipaq 4150, hence all these questions.

the questions above i already posted in another section, under networks and broadband, but i post again here cuz i got additional questions, and i felt the above questions might be linked

i wanna ask, like i said earlier, i using Ipaq 4150, and planning to use GPS. Is it good enough?? the specs of my 4150? so far i love my 4150, small, compact, and fast enough. but for GPS (using bluetooth some more) i wanna ask ok or not?


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post Oct 30 2006, 01:24 AM


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QUOTE(Baronic @ Oct 30 2006, 01:13 AM)
Hey there GPS users. I'm planning to get a GPS cuz i'm always lost in KL. I was wondering,....

a) is it worth the money? is the connection always available in Malaysia here?
b) my friend told me that GPS shows the road and direction, but dangerous to use cuz some roads are 1 way street, GPS doesnt tell. true or false? do advise, and the GPS programme that u use
c) wats the difference between 16 channel and 32 channel??

any other pointers for someone who never use GPS before?

looking to buy bluetooth GPS for Ipaq 4150, hence all these questions.

the questions above i already posted in another section, under networks and broadband, but i post again here cuz i got additional questions, and i felt the above questions might be linked

i wanna ask, like i said earlier, i using Ipaq 4150, and planning to use GPS. Is it good enough?? the specs of my 4150? so far i love my 4150, small, compact, and fast enough. but for GPS (using bluetooth some more) i wanna ask ok or not?

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hmm, new bluetooth gps user here.. as for ur question
a)for me, i think is worth and connection are always available if u r in open space regardless where u are
b)never directed me to one way road before though.. nontheless, if u see a one way road, juz purposely miss the junction n new route will be calculated to u in no time biggrin.gif
c)i think that is how many satelite ur gps can capture.. but AFAIK, it doesnt matter as u juz need a minimum of 3-4satelites to work.. n max satelite u will get is 12.. i juz think la coz the earth is sphere, covered with 24 satelites.. if we on the gps, i think only can get half of the sphere which is 12 satelites.. i think those good chipset got faster refresh/update time..
if u were to use bt gps, the only draw back is u need to bring 2 device and charge diffrently.. other than that, i think it is perfect biggrin.gif
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post Oct 30 2006, 08:44 AM


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The h4150 can use with GPS but it won't be really smooth especially if you plan to use it heavily as 64MB of RAM on WM2003 is not quite enough for heavy usage. However you can cut down on RAM usage such as removing today screen programs & other applications that install into the main memory (RAM).

By the way, the more channel a GPS receiver has the better the reception signal. Furthermore, one need to consider the chipset of the GPS receiver too where a good one should be using the SiRF Star III chipset.
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owh ic ic. well, it has 64 mb ram, but of course, not all 64 is available. i right now have 15 mb for program running space. ok?

hmmm, cant seem to find that chipset ben83

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-11DSale4108763.htm

that one good ar? worth the money?

or this one

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-11DSale4018301.htm

both is not the chipset u mentioned ben83
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QUOTE(ben83 @ Oct 30 2006, 08:44 AM)
The h4150 can use with GPS but it won't be really smooth especially if you plan to use it heavily as 64MB of RAM on WM2003 is not quite enough for heavy usage. However you can cut down on RAM usage such as removing today screen programs & other applications that install into the main memory (RAM).

By the way, the more channel a GPS receiver has the better the reception signal. Furthermore, one need to consider the chipset of the GPS receiver too where a good one should be using the SiRF Star III chipset.
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SiRF star III power hungry, good reception but bad accuracy.

The new Nemerix v.4 & MTK doing better job.
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post Oct 30 2006, 10:03 AM


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QUOTE(Baronic @ Oct 30 2006, 09:27 AM)
owh ic ic. well, it has 64 mb ram, but of course, not all 64 is available. i right now have 15 mb for program running space. ok?

hmmm, cant seem to find that chipset ben83

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-11DSale4108763.htm

that one good ar? worth the money?

or this one

http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2006-11DSale4018301.htm

both is not the chipset u mentioned ben83
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If you are a beginner & just using GPS for fun then a normal bluetooth GPS (put aside the chipset type) will do such as those from lelong, not necessarily need to go for the particular chipset (which might also costs more even if you managed to find one locally).
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post Oct 30 2006, 10:11 AM


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a) is it worth the money? is the connection always available in Malaysia here?

Is it worth the money depends on how much you use it ans what you use it for. Connection always available? You think it's somehting like tmnet streamyx ah ?

c) wats the difference between 16 channel and 32 channel??

for you usage ...no difference. It's better to look at sensitivity.




b) my friend told me that GPS shows the road and direction, but dangerous to use cuz some roads are 1 way street, GPS doesnt tell. true or false? do advise, and the GPS programme that u use

I donno about that, but i've been using gps for unfamiliar places. Never encountered that problem. You should worry more whether the map is updated or not.


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okay cool. wat about the ram requirements as i said above regarding my 4150. okay?? about 15 mb free app running space
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Oct 30 2006, 01:01 PM)
okay cool. wat about the ram requirements as i said above regarding my 4150. okay?? about 15 mb free app running space
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15MB of RAM left should be fine for GPS (considering most GPS mapping software required a minimum of 5MB of RAM available) but take note that amount will probably decrease over time especially for continuous usage. Besides, I also advise you to close all running applications in the background so you can achieve optimum performance.
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alright cool. thanks for the info. smile.gif
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WHoa wait, one more question. Do u all recommend i get a GPS thingy for my Ipaq 4150? or buy a new pocket pc? like a hp 6515
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Oct 30 2006, 04:09 PM)
WHoa wait, one more question. Do u all recommend i get a GPS thingy for my Ipaq 4150? or buy a new pocket pc? like a hp 6515
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up to u lo.. whether u wana take 2 device out or juz bring 1 biggrin.gif
btw, bear in mind that GPS cannot penetrate car roof for satelites.. thus, if u get those build in gps, u might need to place then in front of the windscreen to get reception.. while for bt gps, u can put the receiver at ur windscreen with the pda anywhere around ur car (+-5m coverage).. bad thing is, u need to take account for both device's power.. either 1 device no power, then thats it
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owh....didnt know about the roof thing. cooll cool. luckily u tell me. guess i'll have to buy a pda car holder then. thanks dude
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Oct 30 2006, 09:52 PM)
owh....didnt know about the roof thing. cooll cool. luckily u tell me. guess i'll have to buy a pda car holder then. thanks dude
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i'm using the pda car holder holding my XDA II while the BT GPS sit on anti-slip mat infront of my dash board.. no problem soo far
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i'm using dopod838pro...
how can i get GPS to work on it?

What should i buy???
What software should i install?
Is the software updated often?

i badly need it... cause i get lost so often (being sales)
and i travel in peninsular like crazy most of the time...

e.g. for this week
thurs = kuala kedah, kedah
fri = chemor, ipoh
sat = tangkak, johor

or is there a standalone gps to put in car? where can i get it? how much?
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QUOTE(titansulcata @ Nov 1 2006, 06:16 PM)
i'm using dopod838pro...
how can i get GPS to work on it?

What should i buy???
What software should i install?
Is the software updated often?

i badly need it... cause i get lost so often (being sales)
and i travel in peninsular like crazy most of the time...

e.g. for this week
thurs = kuala kedah, kedah
fri = chemor, ipoh
sat = tangkak, johor

or is there a standalone gps to put in car? where can i get it? how much?
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Bear in mind that most of Peninsular Malaysia's GPS maps only cover major city areas. Even if there are maps for small cities, it won't be comprehensive.
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hmmm, probably not that accurate, but someting would be better than nothing.

@titan u can either buy a bluetooth GPS receiver, or a standalone GPS unit. Bluetooth = 350-550 while standalone can be about 1.6k.

try lelong.com.my and search "GPS"

as for apps, all must pay, but if u know how, can easily get 'ahem' versions. also, people now saying malsing maps are the best (see posts above). i havent personally tried it yet, no time. but i think its the most updated
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QUOTE(Baronic @ Nov 1 2006, 09:07 PM)
hmmm, probably not that accurate, but someting would be better than nothing.

@titan u can either buy a bluetooth GPS receiver, or a standalone GPS unit. Bluetooth = 350-550 while standalone can be about 1.6k.

try lelong.com.my and search "GPS"

as for apps, all must pay, but if u know how, can easily get 'ahem' versions. also, people now saying malsing maps are the best (see posts above). i havent personally tried it yet, no time. but i think its the most updated
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ok, thanks for the advise... guess i have to shop around

btw, why my bluetooth headset only can use to make calls. but if i on my music player, the sound won't come from bluetooth...

for nokia, my n70 can listen to sound from bluetooth
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QUOTE(ben83 @ Nov 1 2006, 07:01 PM)
Bear in mind that most of Peninsular Malaysia's GPS maps only cover major city areas. Even if there are maps for small cities, it won't be comprehensive.
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for me malsingmaps quite detail.
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@titan

thats a bit offtopic, but the bluetooth-mp3 capability is software and bluetooth headset dependant.
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