sorry fellas, i only checked the forum only tat one time during the holidays.

anyway, i'd like to come this coming saturday's Waagh session, 6th Jan 2007. Cause i got the cheques of the previous tournament to pass.

also, here's another update:

Dark Crusade Tournament at Autumn Breeze Internet Cafe, Klang
3rd February 2006

Cash Prizes:
1st - RM 1,000
2nd - RM 600
3rd - RM 300
4th to 8th - RM 100 each
Prize pool is nearly double of the previous!
Trophies to top 3 only.

Rules and Regulations of the tournament will be confirmed later.

In the meantime, i'd like the opinion of everyone on the map: Shrine of Excellion as the only map this time around.

Please comment here.

TQ.

SoE ... has the distinct advantage to OP races due to

1) Bloody near distance for both bases, just walk across the craters
2) 2 routes so under powered races cant put up a decent defence against death march/FW spam
3) SP points cant reinforce one another

So for average players:
- Necron warrior spam seems unstoppable
- IG turret rush owns up to 90% of teh noobs.

But these are just my personal view

thanks Waba.

Other than Excellion, what other maps would you recommend to wage war on?

would this be a 1v1 tournament? well i havent played that map so i dont know if its a 1v1 map
hehehe.. anyway where is this autumn breeze internet cafe located at??

would like to join at least this time can give a bit more of a fight this time around hehehe

Hello Boyz, How you guys doing..
Cant seem to download the replays....damn slow.




Well lets go to Kim Gary's at Sunway Pyramid on Feb 10 (dont want to do it near 14 since some of the guys here will be busy pak tor-ing(hope i got the word right) ..........Time will be 8pm....I hope the usual Rhino transport is available for all.....if not give me a call for a Wartrakk..

And dont worry about the meal.....its my treat.....just something i wanted to do for the community since we have become sorta of a chapter ourselves.

It will be good if you can join us Ctrl-Alt and if the Inquisitor would grant us the honor of joining us as well.




Wished i was there.....




The Inquisitor always is busy with matters of utmost importance.....He is purging heresy on a global scale.....



I never thought i'd hear you say this.....I'm am proud to see that your hate of the heresy has grown



Relax dude.....Red is still a padawan. He has much to learn of the Dark side. (Couldnt help using the SW lingo)




Relax dude......I just want to make it a good dinner session where we sit down to celebrate our existence for this long.




There's no need for thanks dude...it was no trouble




Dont we all.




My vote stays with FTZ....since they have showed loyality to the Inquisitor's words to patch WA before and we tend to find more ppl playing in FTZ than in Clutch....besides the PC's are far stronger....




Great to finally meet you that day dude.....Hope to see you more at our WAAAAGHHH sessions.




Dude, I did approach you or maybe its one of your friends.....about having a 2v2. But you kinda declined me down.....maybe i should let someone like Fuj or Johnny ask




Dude.....trust me.....all of us got our asses kicked at first but then you improve and it becomes really better....besides i think you will really enjoy your time in this WAAAAAGHHH session. especially when you are ally with the Primach and his Loyal IG General.




Wow....another tourney.....so boyzz, getz ur rotten behinds in them trukks....wez gotz killin to do.....




Why dont you use Fallen City?

Yes the AI's are very predictable and unlike humans players , Ai's tend to retreat the moment they're outnumbered or out-gunned . Sucky thing and i sorta got used to the pattern of their attack already . Small skirmishes and then one freaking huge attack force .

We'll see about that . I switched to playing IG now . Sorta got bored of Space Marines . Guardsmen are more dangerous than regular Marines now that i see it . A steady meat wall does the trick while autocannons fire away . I love using the Earthshaker rounds especially on huge concentrations of infantry units . God that's the best way to irritate other players .

Ok let me see we have on official ladder maps now:

- Blood River
- Battle Marshes
- Fallen City
- Shrine of Excellion
- Quests Triumph
- Meeting of the Minds XDone
- Outer Reaches


- Blood River
Good map, bases are close but SP are plenty, slight advantage to cron but since alot of SP so not so much of a free win for death march. IG turret rush is a bit OP though.

- Battle Marshes
Excellent map, cant rush (too far) with good amount of SP around for strategic two way play.

- Fallen City
A bit problematic since got big gen (advantage to Eldar and Cron) and SP are too far apart. Tau Commander with Rocket pack standing on unaccessible roof tops are really spoiling the game at times.

- Shrine of Excellion
Not really good, read my previous post

- Quests Triumph
Under par map. center critical point only accessible from below (unfair). Lots of ledges for unfair turreting/HWT advantage. Necron can stay at base nice nice guarding one and only entrance and still got 3 Sp for a 17/20 warrior/FO spam

- Meeting of the Minds XDone

- Outer Reaches
Overall good and bloody, eldar at slight disadvantage here due to base closeness and slow capping speed. On the other hand if Orks gets hold on the center SP and put up banners = gg for all below par players.





I will say.... for me Battle Marshes seems a better choice, need to hear the rest of the Chapter's input.



Irritate? Huh, you have seen nothing yet..just to let you know everytime we play 4v4 IG almost always got the most kill, with the least units in game ... thanks to earth shaker rounds.

As the krasykin will say, "Annoy them with their own blood!"


3....2...1.... pwn!

This post has been edited by Waba: Jan 3 2007, 03:07 PM

If you compare Battle Marshes and Fallen City.....I would pick Battle Marshes as it is much more neutral towards the races and will give the opportunity for some decent matches......however fallen city does give for high battles early on with two big gen on both sides of the river.

Nevertheless, my vote is cast on Battle Marshes.....I would suggest that Battle Marshes be used for the Finals instead of early on, whereas the other maps be used for the initial engagement. It wouldn't matter to Noobs....

Any opinions fellas

alright, i'll go home and try out Battle Marshes and Outer Reaches. by then i will confirm it tomorrow.

Autumn Breeze is a new cafe in Klang in Taman Chi Liung. Located nearby Winter Night and office of PCGAME.COM.MY. check out this month's PC Gamer for more details.

if it ain't clear enough, i'll get them to draw a map for me.

Actually just dont put Johnny clashing with me at early games I will accept any ladder maps

We will await after you test the maps personally, Lord Inquisitor

I think i know where the place is, since I went there to pick up the WA copies before.......anyway we await for your verdict, Inquisitor





Well that goes for me as well........So looks like [LYNK] is going down to Klang for a WAAAAAGHHH......

Does H@H@ know that we did alright in the last tourney and didnt put the Lowyat name to shame.

I prefer this map... It rather balance for all races. This map will definately make up Ork disability here.

This post has been edited by redeye84: Jan 3 2007, 05:22 PM

Another tourney, you sure keep your words, KK. BM and OR for me. FC is another cacat map, already got sounds from the international community to boot that map out of the ladder list.

*sigh* How I hope the international link is not down. Getting rusty everyday now, waba and johnny, time for direct connect training !!

This post has been edited by TheNameX: Jan 3 2007, 05:51 PM

Battle Marshes?? ! jump for Vespid/Raptor/ASM into ur base and lets do some havoc..... gg and btw, Bassilisk can bombard the whole map from his base.

Shrien of Excellion? Necron death march, Chaos Bezerker rush, IG turret rush.. cheesy win

Blood River? Good map for rusher. Can finish any noobs within 10mins. U want fast game, this is the map.

Outer Reach?? IG turret rush or Commander Squad + Commisar rush.. gg less than 10mins

Meeting of Mind?? Good map despite the big gen.. But no a problem for me..

Fallen City?? Vespid + kroot rush / Vespid + Tau commander tech = gg

Quest thruimp?? bottom position has better advantage because of the middle critical location only be able to access by bottom.



Yea. That's the most important part. Just let me get into No.3
Waba will dominate Ravana if he didnt meet TongSampah.




You have no idea what's goin on ... prepare to meet Soul's cultish + grenade launcher. Remember, all the SP is outside... cultist isnt like u to take the SP u know? and when Waba's ASM jump cross the cliff, the sun will get blocked and ur troops will get mess up after that.

This map definately disable any ork race.. Why everyone hate Orks so much.. Why want to disable me?

This post has been edited by johnnycp: Jan 3 2007, 06:30 PM

Yeah i know, laserflip kept saying he would trade his kidney to get it out of the list.

Dude, think about it for a second, say u end up facing necrons. You send you grotz to build big gen and he send his scarab to his. both no econ now right? He then send his free cron Warriors to bash up your gen with scarab to counter your infiltrated grotz. GG no re.

I will have 10% chance if he play SM by then. But now even his SM is 1500+

This post has been edited by Waba: Jan 3 2007, 06:11 PM

Not against Pro players....

I dun want to face my bro early on also, bro clash bro early game bad omen.

Yea you're right on that one . If i'm not mistaken , IG is the only race with a very long range for most of it's units . Assasin , Basilisk , Autocannon and Lascannon , Guardsmen . So they're actually a more wacked race be it if you know how to play and manage them well .

Librarian's Smite and Grey Knight's Psychic storm will melt them in nano seconds

Can they come close to the Guardsmen in a hail of artillery fire from the Basilisk ?

Or a shot from the Baneblade's Mega Battle Cannon .