now no tax already .....

very cheap the insigh price is extra liter compare to city lee.

Since somewhere in Nov 2010 the govt announced a full excise duty exemption for hybrid cars until the end of 2011. Within a few short weeks the Prius came down in price from 170k+ to 140k+, while the Civic Hybrid went from 130k to 109k. Since then all existing units of the Prius have been snapped up, and if u order now you might get the car next May or June.

As for the Civic Hybrid, you won't be able to find many stocks left in hand. Once depleted, Honda plans to switch over to the Insight which, at 98k is quite reasonable since it's about the same size as a City selling ard 90k.

I don't know how u got this idea that ppl who buy hybrids, let alone cars over 100k don't care about FC. Even Merc owners care about FC, if not the Kompressor and CGI (turbo) engines won't be so popular among these buyers. IMO nobody likes to feed a large cc engine in traffic jams n while idling

If they care about FC then they would not buy the car. You know how much would it cost for any battery replacement? Do you know there is so much other choices available? 140k for a Prius? Come on... Someone who can afford a 100k car would hardly talk about fuel consumption. Don't believe? Check it out for yourself in forums and see whether ppl who are driving a 100k car talk about their FC. haha Merc? They don't even have a sub forum here to discuss about it. They got so much other better things to do than to calculate their millage. hahaha

IMO if you wanna talk about fuel consumption you would 1st consider about a cheaper car. If i am going to buy a Honda CRZ, POLO 1.2 DSG, Civic Hybrid... My installment itself would be few times more than what i am paying for petrol.

This post has been edited by kidmad: Dec 19 2010, 09:24 AM

If buying a car = rob a bank
Then buying a hybrid = steal from bank
Is still wrong anyway, if considering polluting the enviroment by releasing CO2.
Like Civic Hybrid, it only registers 1.3 on engine capacity but actual 1.8 because the power pack contributes another 500cc. Then Honda compare their Hybrid's emissions to other unefficeint 1.8 engines. For sure Civic Hybrid wins.. But did they compare it with 1.3 engines?
But then people now are educated such that wasting rm1000 to safe rm0.10 is right.... So.....

http://priuschat.com/forums/gen-iii-2010-p...di-wrx-sti.html

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Added on December 19, 2010, 1:17 pmI don't know what forums u subscribe to but there are plenty of threads in Msian forums discussing FC issues for cars like Civic, Accord, Camry, Lancer GT, Pug 308 etc. Which coconut shell have u been living in that u consider a 100k above car purchase to be meant for the rich lol...

This post has been edited by gregy: Dec 19 2010, 01:17 PM

Question is, do those ppl who own the car discuss about them... or are they being discussed by people who do not own them? Hahaha. The TCO for a luxury car in Malaysia is different compared to other country. If you buy a civic most probably the fuel consumption is only 10 - 20% of what you are paying for the car. So why bother? Do you actually own any car above 100k?

Ppl who buy those car above 100k you see them hardly talk about FC. They are more concern about prestige, reliability, power, safety. FC? nah... if you talk about them you look cheap some how. LOL. Why i know? Those around me who own continental car, Camry, and Selphy. When i ask them about fuel consumption.. They will tell you... I don't know. Only those who can hardly afford will discuss about it.

Knowing about one's car's FC doesn't make him rich or poor. Why do u have such an inferiority complex? Yes my car is above 100k, so what? Discussions on FC are not exclusive to any segment, regardless of what they drive.

Anyway this is a thread on FC, so don't come here and talk abt your acquaintances who don't give a fark abt FC cos it's not for them. And it's not for u to speak on behalf of them; are you their gardener or something? It seems u r a noob who hasn't visited car forums to know that FC discussions are normal, and once in a while some ignorant joker with an inferiority complex will talk crap without facts.

Haha why get all so heat up? are you one of those joker who barely able to afford the car and yet buying them without knowing your financial capability? Taking a 9 years loan with more than 1.1k to pay monthly? Only this group of ppl would talk bout FC most of the time. hahaha. Somehow from the way i see, it seems like i offended you in some sort of way and most probably yes! i hit the jackpot! lol

Yea we are talking bout FC but im telling you if i am buying a POLO 1.2 DSG or POLO 1.4 TDSI, i wont fark care about my fuel consumption anymore because the total cost of ownership of the car is so much higher compared to what i am paying for petrol.

Buying a cheap car with a fuel savvy technology is whole lot difference with Buying an expensive car with a fuel savvy technology and hey... ppl only need to know yes that car is fuel savvy! and they would not discuss about it. LOL

If u dun give a damn why da hell bother to post?
Dun waste other ppl's time who is interested to read abt FC to read abt the crap u are saying dude get a life and get lost....

by the way my FC:
Car: Chevrolet aveo1.4 reg08 sedan (gross weight of 1545kg) kerb weight of 1080kg
city driving: 8-9km/L for heavy traffic, 9-10km/L for normal traffic, lately seems to improve with caltex ron95 fuel...probably above 10km/L sometimes
highway driving: cruising at 90-100kmh gives 14-15km/L speeding at 120-130kmh gets u at 12-14km/L depending if u are able to maintain at a constant speed or not.

generally a comfy car with solid build (heavy doors compared to potongs)
FC in city is considerably high for a 1.4 engine.

heck i read a chevy cruze owner in a few pages back posted to get 10kmL in city as well, so unfair...a 1.8L car same FC with a 1.4L car....mine is so underpowered somemore....

That's means your skill are questionable....
Buying a fuel efficient car but without good driving habits will result to poor FC....

hahaha yeah right...u r welcome to test drive my car and see how efficient u can make it....
i've tried all sorts of method, pouring in X1R petrol system saver,
drive and maintain at <2500rpm....despite being hon and flashed by tailgaters...

ask useless SC personnel to check the engine and reset ECU...

it just simply cannot get above 10km/L in city driving with reasonable amt of traffic.

i'm happy with the FC i'm getting in highway drive by the way....
that's the claimed FC (according to indian/singapore/phillipines market) anyway.

Chevy malaysia never dare to claim any FC in all their models....
perhaps there is a reason to it....i also read optra owners posting high FC.....

just found out aveo and optras are locally assembled and cruze are imported...perhaps that's the main reason....LOL

Some simple mods(plug cable and plug), extractor and removing the catalytic convertor can help improve the FC, if your skill are ok.... Also pump your tyre slightly higher pressure(5-10kpa from norm), your car will be "lighter"....
If do the above, can give you 2-10%
Fuel saver won't help, most of the time... But injection cleaner can help, not much, maybe 2-5%.....
Reseting ECU won't help..... It just to fullfill your expectations.

i've pump hidrogen gas for my tyre oledi looo
the shop guy say can save FC cos make car "lighter" but same same nia....

where to get injection cleaner? any recommendation?

i'm using sagem spark plug LOL cheap ones i guess....
mind if i ask what's a catalytic convertor?
is it something to do with the exhaust piping stuffs?

dun plan to mod a lot cos car still under warranty....also partly bcus lack of funding now that i have a newborn baby to take care of....
read something abt this surbo crap, does it work?
but anyway just have to live with it la....9km/L in city driving lo....no choice....
perhaps due to my heavier rims...changed the 14" steel to 15" sport rims but handling oso still so-so only...
any other aveo sedan owners out there? mind to share what FC u getting?

Wira 1.6A YR 1999
Fuel= Esso ron95
from Subang Jaya-> Cherating (with travelling around kemaman)->pump halfway @ east coast highway
RM 54.25 for 460km = 16.11km/l nod.gif
Light footed @ 100km.

WIRA 1.5SE 2005
RM30=290KM @ 6.6l/100KM
MAINTAIN=100KM/H

now only realized Proton Wira is so fuel saving. Even better than Vios/City.

^All you need is rm800(rm400 for 4 times service) per year and you are good to go.... Rm400 is for you to change gear oil, brake fluid, brake pad....

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Added on January 17, 2011, 8:17 pmBTW, rm400 is the minimum you must spend... If got other parts going to fail, that also you must change.... Today just strike my brake pump's gasket failed....

This post has been edited by kyheng: Jan 17 2011, 08:17 PM

Proton Gen2 1.6 AT 2005 light-modded
5.7l/100km if maintain 110kph
6.0l/100km if 130kph
city drive depends on how much u do stop n go..

Car Type : Iswara 1.3 (M) crab
Driving Condition : Highway 10% + City 90%
KMs : 520km
Fuel : 35L
roughly can get at least 14km per liter

its not accurate if u ask me counting by that way~~maybe its bcoz of the full tank weight~~from full tank to half tank i only travelled 180+....but from the half tank till the warning light on i travelled more than 400~~

This post has been edited by jasonloh7906: Jan 24 2011, 01:42 AM