Hi guys,

Just want to ask how much does it cost to do a script like this with some customizations that i required.

http://waylex.com/?guest=Products&PHPSESSI...m7vmc81fbt3ddg0

hi guys,

im doing a freelance making website, and already have a client myself.

how much you guys charge for 7-8 pages html website?

and how about the maintanence charge? u guys charge monthly or everytime the client want to update?

i already told the client i would charge them a annual fee for their hosting and domain name.

whats your web making package beside the price on creating the website?

thanks in advance, a freshie here....

hi, i would like to know how much can i charge for a normal website with photoshop design but no database ? thx

meaning just HTML & CSS?

Personally i charge like 400. not sure if its the market price or not

whenever there is web design project, consider the following criteria:
1. sitemap (how many pages u have?)
2. media (flash banner? animated gif?)
3. special features (CMS? Blog? enquiry form? shopping cart?)

for plain html page (photoshop or not doesnt matter), as a freelancer i would charge RM500 for the design (overall look and feel and art), then 200 per page (100 per page if reuse the same design of other page).

aite...wad about a flash website with database? thx

IMO those rates are killing the market. you freelancers making yourself earn less and hurting the industry only.

don't you guys know you people are worth more than that?

it's common that people don't know the rates, and plus the lack of confidence, give superbly low rates.

this is not just in the Web Design industry but even in other service related industry, if you're just starting out and give low rates then ok la i understand. new, fresh, need to build portfolio - just make sure you don't go around telling others that that is the rate.

even a wordpress theme alone could be worth RM 700 - 1000 or more!

so if you want to make more out of $$$ and love the web design industry - please, do be a hypocrite by killing it.

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*terms and conditions apply la. depending on many things, i'd say RM 1k to 1.5k is considered cheap already for a website.

This post has been edited by goldfries: May 29 2009, 06:20 PM

for that price you would get only a plain theme


if you want some eye catching, it would be more...


Normally I charged:
For Malaysian - Rm 1k - 2k
For International - RM 1.8 k - 3k

note the words "OR MORE". plain or not, my point is that there's far more value than what we think.......

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Added on May 29, 2009, 6:58 pmdo remember that WP theme or not, it's still web design.

This post has been edited by goldfries: May 29 2009, 06:58 PM

A quick question. Roughly how much do you guys charge for websites like threadless.com , snorgtees.com and bytelove.com? I need to have a rough estimation for my budget. Are those sites custom made or Joomla?

Threadless - custom.

Custom by far gives you better control from your workflow down to how you need the system to be so it's easier from your POV.

Biggest setback, costly. But a person who's learnt their lesson normally know the benefits of having custom.

Thank you. I asked another local (I am at Australia) web designer with a prolific portfolio. They charges me between AUD8k to AUD15k for a website like www.threadless.com. That figure is 2 folds above my business capital. So I was thinking about doing it myself.

Well, that'll be almost the same amount if you were to develop it in Malaysia. Unless you get some person who uses Joomla/Drupal and the like to modify the system according to your needs.

Anyway, designers and developers say they can do something themselves. However, they both need each other - every time.

For a Wordpress theme, it would def cost more. But for a HTML & CSS based template - which most of the time is based around an existing template (just some copy pasting and minor editing of colours & text) I dont think its reasonable to charge more than RM500.

The problem now is, no one has the proper "rates". I've asking around different people and get different results. Some charge really high, some charge really low. Even you didnt give a ball park figure to the person who was asking.

This is what this thread is for, but no one gives a NUMBER (or at least a RANGE). How like that?

IcedNyior,

this was the question asked......



and this was your reply.....



you didn't even mention about WP themes, so the reply i gave certainly wasn't about WP themes either.

farmcow asked for NORMAL WEBSITE with PHOTOSHOP DESIGN, no DB.

you say you charge HTML & CSS, RM 400 - which is why i say it's damn cheap for a website like that and it's killing the market............. and it truly is.

and now you come and say



again now we're going at different things already. TS was referring to NORMAL WEBSITE (definition of normal is subjective btw) with design!

and now you're talking about WP-theme with copy / paste existing template blablabla........... that's different isn't it? if you had stated that your figure was for that then it's a different thing altogether.



no one gave figure? there will never be a PROPER RATES because each provider is different, and the provided service is different.

but here's what i said..........



like i said - there will never be PROPER RATES........... BUT one shouldn't be charging obscenely low price that hurts the market.

clear now why i don't give fixed figure? I can't be telling anyone charge RM 2.5k per site if they're giving shitty stuff, neither can i say charge RM 1k if they're giving a lot!

understand now? again i reiterate my point - your prices should not be something that kills the market.

anyway if my post was wrong, I'm VERY sure that etsuko would be the first one to disagree cos he's running a Web Design business and so am I, and we've been doing this for years.

in your case, slightly modified WP-themes - i do find that if you charge also, would be just for your time + skill to modify. when i say WP-themes could be worth RM 700 - 1k or more, it refers to actual customized themes.

hope you understand better now on the RATES and what I posted.

ROFL! Goldy getting involved in the old "should charge this and not that" debate of costing.

Anyway, there's a kinda healthy way to gauge how much it'll cost to convert Photoshop templates into an XHTML (sorry, I don't do plain HTML ) and CSS templates.

How?
Launch Google. Search for "photoshop psd to html". Visit some of the websites offering the service you're planning to offer to gauge the prices.

There are a number of these online services being created online right now. All similarly converting PSD to HTML. And by looking at various websites, you can get an average cost. Some have a calculator, even! Here's one http://xhtml.pixelcrayons.com/

But, they charge in USD?
Here's the part where you need to be a smart business/marketing person. However, I'm going to be charitable and give you a shortcut. Based on my experience in the industry (when I was freelance), rates being quoted here are similarly to the US. Similar when the cost is NOT CONVERTED.

Meaning if you used their calculator, maybe they charge around USD1000 for 10 pages. So you should be looking at around RM1000 for 10 pages too.

If you're thinking "I can't charge that much otherwise I won't have any business", then forget about doing this as a business and go get a job. In Malaysia, everyone tries to undercut one another. The smarter ones know when to pursue a job if this was part of the criteria.

Said that, the reason I don't preach anymore to whoever posts "how much this should cost..." is because now the first questions I'd ask in return is "may I see your portfolio?". Simple reason is because you should evaluate yourself based on your work. Even you're in college, you have your assignments to evaluate your own work/experience. If you're in school (primary/secondary), you'd better have some work to show coz you'll have the toughest challenge persuading a client.

And trust me, there are good and bad (or horrid) developers in Malaysia.

Well, I hope that clears much of it on the Photoshop to HTML costs.

yes - and the portfolio is just 1 part, not counting the overall service provided and the quality of the service as well.

which is why there's no FIXED rate. of course charging RM 10k for a 5 page HTML / CSS with a bit of artwork will be really overpriced but if you manage to convince the client - then it's not wrong either.

yes, convincing the client is the difficult part. many of them will look at $$$ over anything else.

LOL! For the primary/high schooler, money isn't the issue. It'll be "can you get the job done" issue. Being Asians, one of the things still not realized is the potential in much younger designers.

yup. those younger designers already start off with using CSS.

i've come by the older generation still using tables intensively.

Web design package usually quoted with minimum 10 webpages included with guestbook, sitemap, contact us page with rate of RM500.

However, you also need to extend your budgets to register for a web hosting plan that cost around RM180 per year with good features. All of this package are found on one of the Malaysia hosting site at www.iwebhosting.com.my