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post Aug 14 2006, 12:25 AM
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the new Kingston Value RAM DDR2-800 1GB have Micron on it. I think at Compuzone is RM600... expensive...lol! 512MB module will probably have different chips I guess.

forgot about the timing for that KVR

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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 8 2006, 11:50 PM)
no, especially nowadays fatbody is no more in production.

anyway... it's fatbody... not fatboy.
X2 will benefit DDR2 a lot. 10k in memory benchmark is so easy with X2 AM2.

probably DDR is a bottleneck for X2 S939.
some Elpida chip are quite good... like the 6E-E

but generally, Elpida can be considered moderately okay.

Micron square BGA are the current best. There are smaller rectangular type, but they don't do as well as the squares. 'Fatbody' is rectangular BGA, but the chip is big like DDR TSOP, but slightly wider.

They are Aeneon (a division of Infineon).
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My TeamXtreem already arrive... will do testing tonight brows.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 15 2006, 01:02 PM)
My TeamXtreem already arrive... will do testing tonight brows.gif
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QUOTE(gengstapo @ Aug 7 2006, 10:25 PM)
ok then.. im joining the league  laugh.gif
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Bagi spec's rig la. No point I see benches if I dunno what you're whacking

QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 15 2006, 01:02 PM)
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cepat2 lai2 can't wait to see what those babies can do since over at XS the benches are a bit too hard to believe

BTW updated the rankings

owh, I was at LYP the otehr day and I saw a few KVR's DDR2 533Mhz's which were using Micron chips. Might be tempting

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look for Hynix C4... they do great as well.
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 15 2006, 07:19 PM)
look for Hynix C4... they do great as well.
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Yeah I saw those too for the DDR2 667Mhz sticks. all that I was talking about are of 1Gb density in case you guys didn't know
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Confirm the dealer don't know nuts about CL. So I'm back to square one. Still scouting for 2x1GB DD2 667.

Where to find Hynix C4? What is the brand of the RAM?

My friend can source Micron brand RAM. Wondering what ram they use? Is it square BGA micron ram?
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 15 2006, 07:19 PM)
look for Hynix C4... they do great as well.
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Hynix do it again?? thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(almostthere @ Aug 15 2006, 07:23 PM)
Yeah I saw those too for the DDR2 667Mhz sticks. all that I was talking about are of 1Gb density in case you guys didn't knowhigh

sorry for not being able to do some testing for my TX-DDR2, I was at my friend's house(ddww) the whole night testing his Hynix (OEM) C4-based 2x1GB modules (they aren't dual channel kits). The RAM was rated at DDR533 CL4-4-4-12.

As was expected... it ran all the way up to DDR1060 with CL5-5-5-12 without any issue (tested with SuperPi 16M/32M) on Intel P4-630 and Gigabyte DS3 with 2.2Vdimm. We used 1:2 divider to push the RAM to the max.

Here are some screenies (sorry....did not capture 32M)
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SuperPi 16M @ DDR2-1060 5-5-4-12 (2.2Vdimm)
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*Please note that these are OEM Hynix DDR533 1GB modules, not Kingston/Corsair/Apacer or whatsoever.

QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 15 2006, 10:00 PM)
My friend can source Micron brand RAM. Wondering what ram they use? Is  it square BGA micron ram?
Unless they're old stocks, most OEM Micron nowadays are using the smaller rectangular BGA which are actually less overclockable compare to the classic 'fatbody' Micron or the newer square BGA Micron. The good square ones are supposed to be 'premium' chips....so they're the least expected on OEM DDR533/667 Micron. Those Micron DDR2 on Lelong.com.my are just the normal ones.

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Yeah but with all KVR DDR2 667Mhz's being remarked, it's pretty hard to tell which from which unless someone can give a decent description of how each chip looks like
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my mobo cannot use ddr800 divider.... so this is what i can do for now....

mobo : Tforce550
ram : 2x512MB TeamXtreem DDR2-667 CL3
divider used : ddr667
vdimm : 2.41v (vdimm pencil mod, measured with dmm)

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DDR2 benchmark challenge added to overclocking database.

Link : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=313858
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 17 2006, 11:48 AM)
DDR2 benchmark challenge added to overclocking database.

Link : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=313858
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Sheesh, kinda makes this topic redundant already. I'd suggest this be closed. Your call since you're the mod
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nah... the benchmark thread is strictly database, discussions will be done here

easier to manage biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 17 2006, 01:00 PM)
nah... the benchmark thread is strictly database, discussions will be done here

easier to manage biggrin.gif
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yahh, me agree too
go goo gooo firefly, ehh soulfly laugh.gif
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I think I'll most probably get Patriot RAM 2x1GB DDR2 667. Do tell me if this decision is wrong. It does come with ramsink.
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Aug 17 2006, 08:13 PM)
I think I'll most probably get Patriot RAM 2x1GB DDR2 667. Do tell me if this decision is wrong. It does come with ramsink.
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wrong....

unless it's LL or XBL series tongue.gif
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 17 2006, 08:36 PM)
wrong....

unless it's LL or XBL series  tongue.gif
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I don't have money to buy such expensive RAM cry.gif
So is signature line good enough? Do you know what RAM it use?

OMG, you pawned me in another thread.... cry.gif
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not sure about the signature line.... but probably some 'mainstream' chips like normal Elpida, Nanya or something...

Try get good Kingston or Corsair la... at least you can see what chips they're using (not covered by heatspreader). Or if possible, look for Hynix C4 (oem, DDR533)... should be cheap enough. They clock great as well.

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