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post Dec 13 2006, 03:40 PM

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good cannister cost about 390...normal brand cost about 180
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Is it the RM180 cannister ok c0c0nut from your POV
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Silver Arowana

The Silver Arowana is of the genus "Osteoglossum bicirrhosum," were recognized as a new fish species in 1829 in France, by zoologist Georges Cuvier. They are classified as Bony-Tongued Fish which are fish that go back to somewhat pre-historic times. In fact, in Greek, Osteoglossum is bone-tongued and bicirrhosum is "two barbels."

Silver Arowana are found naturally in white and black water floodplains of South America in the freshwaters of the Amazon River Basin and River, maybe in the Rupununi and Oyapock Rivers, and in some still waters of Guyana as well. There is indication that they don't go through rapids, as they haven't promulgated further upstream. Most of the Silver Arowana are found in the swamp and flooded areas in the shallower water.

Silver Arowana are primitive, prehistoric fish. They actually have teeth on their tongue that comprise the bite they have for their food. Other relatives of Arowana in general include the Butterfly fish and Elephant fish.

Silver Arowana are among the cheapest Arowana available, and the least restricted to import/export. They come small, but look out, they grow rapidly. It is wise to get them at 4-8 inches/ 10-20cm when they are hardier and easier to handle. This will give you a better chance of success keeping them.

The natural environment of the Silver Arowana is from about 75 to 82 degrees F (24-28 C) warm in the water. In the wild, Silver Arowana may reach upwards of 4 feet /120 cm in length, and a little over ten pounds in weight.

They require good water condition to flourish. You must keep Ammonia and Nitrites close to zero. Silver Arowana create a lot of waste, so the filtration system needs to be strong and efficient. Changing at least 25% of the water per week is advisable. Some even recommend as much as 50-75%. The pH of the water (soft and acidic) is best kept between 6.0 and 6.9. Water hardness level for an ideal environment is about 1-8dH.

Their body are covered in very big, strong, and bony scales, and at the lower jaw, 2 barbels. Silver Arowana have a large, bony tongue. The dorsal and anal fins are nearly connected to the caudal fin. Adult Silver Arowana is silvery usually whereas the juveniles often have a yellow-orange bar on the side. They have longer fins than the other Arowana species from Australia, Asia, and Africa.

The growth rate in the Silver Arowana is about two inches (5cm) a month during their first year.

Silver Arowana requires a larger aquarium tank that needs to be well covered to prevent the fish from jumping out if the aquarium to their deaths. The size required depends on the size of your Arowana but should as a rule be at least twice and preferable more than 3 times the length of the fish. Decorated the aquarium so that a lot of open space is created to allow your Silver Arowana fish space where they can swim freely. Silver Arowana like their space to move about in. You will however probably want to give them a couple of places where they can hide. While some tank mates may be good for dinner, you might try some other large fish that are hardy and slightly aggressive fish such as Catfish to keep with your Arowana.

Silver Arowana fish demands a varied diet. They are usually fed guppies in the stores where they are sold and whatever it takes upon acclimation to get them to eat other things is wise and necessary to get them to do so. Getting them to eat non-live food can be a good thing too, as it expands your options for variety. They will usually eat things such as frozen raw shrimp, squid, scallops, and fish fillets. They will also accept a number of live foods such as, smaller fish, plankton, crickets, bloodworms, other insects, and mosquito larvae. If trained, they will eat nearly anything they can get their hands on. Goldfish might be suggested as a snack, however they should not make up a too large part of your Silver Arowana's diet. Another aspect, if you dare, is to attempt to get them to fetch food from your hand which can result in some painful bites until the Arowana learns it.

One condition that is often seen in Silver Arowana is called "Drop Eye", where an eye appears to look downward. It seems this may be the result of over breeding at the breeders though it might also come from fatty tissues behind the eye. Less fat in their diet may help to minimizing or preventing this.

Make sure the top of your tank is well secured. Silver Arowana are Jumpers, and may wind up dead on the floor otherwise.

They can be shy, and easily spooked. For example, when turning on the lights, it is wise to turn on the room lights first. Then after a few minutes, turn on the tank lights. Otherwise, your Silver Arowana might get spooked and injure itself. It is good if you can get some sunlight to them in the day as well, but not constant or you might wind up with an algae problem.

It is suggested for filtration to use adequate Mechanical, Chemical, and Biological filtration to cover the amount of water in the tank. Multiple units might not hurt considering the volume of water you need for your Silver Arowana, and it does provide backup in case one system fails.

On a closing note, you should also remember, Silver Arowana's are not for the poor, or the inexperienced aquarist. However, they are very interesting fish to watch grow, and live. They will undoubtedly give you many hours of enjoyable scenery, and experiences. If you choose to get a Silver Arowana, it is wise to do a lot of research to become even more experienced with these great living examples of Amazon Basin.

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post Dec 13 2006, 04:24 PM

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try not to buy those rm180 cannister... taiwan brands wan... i had bad experience... im not the only one who kena... my fren oso kena... not even 1 year... the thing kaput.... it just stopped working. make me luan have to buy another 1 for my planted tank
from then on, i always think pay peanuts get monkey lor smile.gif
just my 2 sens smile.gif
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post Dec 13 2006, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(Snyy @ Dec 13 2006, 01:55 PM)
c0c0nut, yaya, i saw that. how much does the cannister filter cost?

jaspery27, huh? those top filter is enough for aro already? just need to clean it more often izzit?

burag0, what filter are you using for your aro?
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im using 4ft stackable ohf... 2 layers

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post Dec 13 2006, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Snyy @ Dec 13 2006, 01:55 PM)
c0c0nut, yaya, i saw that. how much does the cannister filter cost?

jaspery27, huh? those top filter is enough for aro already? just need to clean it more often izzit?

burag0, what filter are you using for your aro?
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bro, yalo, i use top filter for my jardini, just need to clean often, aldi use for more than 4 years (or even more, cant remember liao), so far so good..... laugh.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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top filter need to change water at least 20% to 30% per week
like me also, 2 weeks already but only once change the water 30%
quite hard wooo to do WC sweat.gif sweat.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif

Article about WC
http://arowanaclub.com/stories.php?story=05/08/31/8874658

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post Dec 13 2006, 05:01 PM

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depends on ur ohf oso...
the amount of cr , bioload.
but of cos... best practice is weekly 10-20% wc.
u take good care ofur water... ur water take good care of ur fish smile.gif
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izzit no matter what filter you are using, you still need to WC weekly??
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post Dec 13 2006, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(madstone @ Dec 13 2006, 03:54 PM)
Is it the RM180 cannister ok c0c0nut from your POV
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for me is aro i will go for better brand la...fish so exp use better quality stuff lo

QUOTE(Snyy @ Dec 13 2006, 05:18 PM)
izzit no matter what filter you are using, you still need to WC weekly??
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yes WC is important to keep ya fish in good shape...just like u la....if your room diry and dusty u still can live rite ?....but you might get cough or sore eye...some goes to your fish....don wan water change the fella still can survive....just waiting for problem to occur only....

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QUOTE(burag0 @ Dec 13 2006, 04:28 PM)
im using 4ft stackable ohf... 2 layers

biomat n wool biomat n wool biomat n wool
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take a pic please... icon_rolleyes.gif

This post has been edited by c0c0nut: Dec 13 2006, 05:48 PM
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post Dec 13 2006, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 13 2006, 05:43 PM)
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take a pic please... icon_rolleyes.gif
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will try when i go bek mlk... its all pasted with black oyama sticker... heheh. bb thrive in dark conditions ma... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 13 2006, 05:43 PM)
for me is aro i will go for better brand la...fish so exp use better quality stuff lo
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That's what i'm thinking of

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1 set of new 4 X 2 ft tank will cost me RM268.80 rclxub.gif
err...i think i'll start with OHF 1st, later change lor sweat.gif sweat.gif

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QUOTE(c0c0nut @ Dec 13 2006, 05:43 PM)
yes WC is important to keep ya fish in good shape...just like u la....if your room diry and dusty u still can live rite ?....but you might get cough or sore eye...some goes to your fish....don wan water change the fella still can survive....just waiting for problem to occur only....
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then what is the advantages of using a sump tank filter over a overhead filter? i know 1 of the thing is sump tank have more volume and no need to clean as often as overhead filter. besides that, what else?
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Snyy
if u don't have budget for sump filter, better use normal WF lor
save the best for last, save your money then go for good sump filter like Jebao 815 or Jebao 915 or Jebao 918
OR any customade filter u wanna do

check it out at yekfong.com
they have all kind of filters

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just fed my silvaro with small lizard
sekali ngap saja hahahaha

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post Dec 13 2006, 11:51 PM

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I went to ALIVE at Jalan Pasar today and see the nami green which chelseaFan said. The size is quite small around 2 inches. Although it is small, i can see the greenish colour on its scales. Nice aro actually.. thumbup.gif Price: RM100.
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Last wk I went, 3 of them...now how many?

These fries are just out of sag. Cant see much at this moment.

I feel like making a RM20 booking and let them develope for 2-3wks and see.
If good, buy. Not up to expectation, let them forfeit my deposit.
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QUOTE(ChelseaFan @ Dec 14 2006, 12:37 AM)
Last wk I went, 3 of them...now how many?

These fries are just out of sag. Cant see much at this moment.

I feel like making a RM20 booking and let them develope for 2-3wks and see.
If good, buy. Not up to expectation, let them forfeit my deposit.
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Good idea but normally the fish will be taken fast coz many ppl hunt for aro there.
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that's the thing
doesn't matter which species of aros
ppl will still buy it at Jln Pasar

2 aros in 2 month is something to think about
got no place to put for my 3rd aro
unless i wanna put it outside biggrin.gif biggrin.gif laugh.gif
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Not a problem Stone.

I've a frd who kept 6 Aquarium @ Home. All in 1 room(his fish room)
He has a Silver, Jardini, Green, RTG, XBack & SRed.
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post Dec 14 2006, 09:04 AM

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wat i know is not good to keep fish in bedroom...just aint good for the 'chi' flow...



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