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TSmynameisdavid
post Jan 16 2013, 01:55 PM, updated 13y ago

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twins9
post Jan 16 2013, 02:26 PM

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Never heard of fine for internal renovation!
TSmynameisdavid
post Jan 16 2013, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(twins9 @ Jan 16 2013, 02:26 PM)
Never heard of fine for internal renovation!
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Yes, so shocked when received this,

and we just did very minor reno inside, not extension, or pillar removal
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post Jan 16 2013, 02:45 PM

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was the fine for the previous reno by ex owner? I am sure you can ask your neighbours about this.


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post Jan 16 2013, 02:51 PM

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damn... now I cannot repaint of my internal house wall.. doh.gif
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post Jan 16 2013, 03:16 PM

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Cannot be right? Is that all the letter says? Can share full version?
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post Jan 16 2013, 03:19 PM

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Ask them show you how which of your reno contravenes section 70 (11) where the definitions of "erecting a building" are stated in 70 (16).

http://www.agc.gov.my/Akta/Vol.%203/Act%20...%20(51-100).pdf

I think its BS. In anycase, show them the akta above.
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post Jan 16 2013, 03:25 PM

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why did mpaj find out? did ur neighbour complain?
did u get permit from mpaj to do renovation in the first place?
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post Jan 16 2013, 03:27 PM

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Paint house need permit ah?
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post Jan 16 2013, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 16 2013, 03:25 PM)
did u get permit from mpaj to do renovation in the first place?
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I am more interested to know why we need to get a renovation permit if the renovation works is done inside the house without adding/removing any structure like pillars and walls.

Change of tiles, and removal of kitchen cabinet is considered very minor renovation works imho.
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post Jan 16 2013, 03:30 PM

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AFAIK if not renovating any major pillar or extension then no need permit.

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post Jan 16 2013, 03:41 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jan 16 2013, 03:27 PM)
I am more interested to know why we need to get a renovation permit if the renovation works is done inside the house without adding/removing any structure like pillars and walls.

Change of tiles, and removal of kitchen cabinet is considered very minor renovation works imho.
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for why, you have to ask MPAJ, but there really are forms to apply permission for even such minor works

http://www.mpaj.gov.my/e-borang?p_p_id=101..._assetId=215227

4 BORANG PERMOHONAN MEMBAIKI RUMAH / KEDAI / PEJABAT YANG SEDIA ADA TANPA MENGUBAH STRUKTUR ASAL
5BORANG PERMOHONAN UBAHSUAI DALAMAN TANPA MENGUBAH STRUKTUR ASAL (RUMAH BERTINGKAT)
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post Jan 16 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 16 2013, 03:41 PM)
for why, you have to ask MPAJ, but there really are forms to apply permission for even such minor works

http://www.mpaj.gov.my/e-borang?p_p_id=101..._assetId=215227

4 BORANG PERMOHONAN MEMBAIKI RUMAH / KEDAI / PEJABAT YANG SEDIA ADA TANPA MENGUBAH STRUKTUR ASAL
5BORANG PERMOHONAN UBAHSUAI DALAMAN TANPA MENGUBAH STRUKTUR ASAL (RUMAH BERTINGKAT)
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thanks mate, this is something new to me.

Seems like TS could have saved RM12.5k if he paid RM50 for the renovation permit. sweat.gif
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post Jan 16 2013, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 16 2013, 03:41 PM)
for why, you have to ask MPAJ, but there really are forms to apply permission for even such minor works

http://www.mpaj.gov.my/e-borang?p_p_id=101..._assetId=215227

4 BORANG PERMOHONAN MEMBAIKI RUMAH / KEDAI / PEJABAT YANG SEDIA ADA TANPA MENGUBAH STRUKTUR ASAL
5BORANG PERMOHONAN UBAHSUAI DALAMAN TANPA MENGUBAH STRUKTUR ASAL (RUMAH BERTINGKAT)
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If painting also need to fill in that form?
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post Jan 16 2013, 04:12 PM

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This is an eye opener. First time I hear that we need a permit to renovate the interior of the house???
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post Jan 16 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Jan 16 2013, 04:11 PM)
If painting also need to fill in that form?
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no, it says work like install grill, wardrobe, cabinet, awning, new tiles; repair porch, roof, gate; change partition.

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QUOTE(funnybone @ Jan 16 2013, 04:12 PM)
This is an eye opener. First time I hear that we need a permit to renovate the interior of the house???
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i did some very minor work around the house just like repair a part of the floor tile (previously contractor lousy workmanship and it all pop up) and replace the grill lock (have to cut open the grill, replace the lock and weld it back). settled in a slightly more than 1 day, no issue with mpaj although no application.

TS say is minor work and if really minor work and done discreetly, shouldnt be an issue with MPAJ. But how mpaj found out and fine him? maybe neighbour complain cos too noisy or he remove the kitchen cabinet without dump into proper bin, or the building material block the road, etc. must be something wrong here.

Anyway, i found an online form for rayuan kompaun, mynameisdavid can try that.
http://www.mpaj.gov.my/e-borang?p_p_id=101..._assetId=215222

2 BORANG RAYUAN KOMPAUN

This post has been edited by nghj: Jan 16 2013, 04:42 PM
TSmynameisdavid
post Jan 16 2013, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(twins9 @ Jan 16 2013, 02:45 PM)
was the fine for the previous reno by ex owner?  I am sure you can ask your neighbours about this.
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Nope, we just very recently did some minor touch up before moving in last week, so I think it doesnt related to ex-owner.
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post Jan 16 2013, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(jepakazoid_82 @ Jan 16 2013, 03:16 PM)
Cannot be right? Is that all the letter says? Can share full version?
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Mayb there is still some parts I have missed out, I will check out tonight from my father tonight since he was the one who dealed with the contractor for reno.
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post Jan 16 2013, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(nghj @ Jan 16 2013, 03:25 PM)
why did mpaj find out? did ur neighbour complain?
did u get permit from mpaj to do renovation in the first place?
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No, none of our neighbours lodge any complaints to the authorities.

Our house was vacant when doing the minor reno, touched up, mayb MPAJ patrols found it.

We dint get any consent from MPAJ because we thought it just a minor work, and the contractor dint inform us any application etc.
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post Jan 16 2013, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jan 16 2013, 03:27 PM)
I am more interested to know why we need to get a renovation permit if the renovation works is done inside the house without adding/removing any structure like pillars and walls.

Change of tiles, and removal of kitchen cabinet is considered very minor renovation works imho.
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Updates:

I went to MPAJ just now get informed that even tiles changed, have to summit application to MPAJ,

Application form uploaded as below:


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