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post Jun 14 2012, 02:52 PM, updated 14y ago

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The Opposition media is having a ball with the recent news on Daniyar Nazarbayev. In case you don’t who know he is, he is the former stepson of Kazakh president, Nursultan Nazarbayev’s brother (what a mouthful!) . More importantly, he also happens to be Najib Razak’s future son in law. The New York Post, citing court documents, claims that Daniyar allegedly conned his stepfather out of a US$20 million Plaza condo as well as his way into Columbia University.
FYI the New York Post has yet to actually publish the actual court documents. It kind of has the same feel when Suaram claimed that they had damning evidence on Scorpene but were unable to take it out of France.
How credible is New York Post anyway as it’s known for its sensationalized style of writing? Well, did you know that the New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who happened to be the owner of UK tabloid, News of the World. News of the World was forced to close due to public backlash and the withdrawal of advertising as a result of the phone hacking scandal in 2011. It was discovered that nearly a decade earlier, a private investigator hired by the newspaper had intercepted and deleted the voicemail of missing British teenager Milly Dowler, who was later found murdered. The scandal deepened when the paper was alleged to have hacked into the phones of families of British service personnel killed in action. Incidentally, the New York Post was also responsible for issuing an article, claiming that the hotel housekeeper Dominique Strauss-Kahn was accused of sexually assaulting was actually a prostitute. (The woman has since sued The Post)
Now as for academic fraud, note that Daniyar has graduated from Columbia. What is in dispute is his high school qualifications. Also note that Columbia was made aware of it and it appears that Daniyar was deem qualified to stay in the school. Perhaps he had to retake his SAT exam or maybe SAT scores were used for his admission in the first place? So he has now graduated from Columbia unless NYP is disputing that too?
Back to the case, as for academic fraud, note that Daniyar has graduated from Columbia. What is in dispute is his high school qualifications. Also note that Columbia was made aware of it and it appears that Daniyar was deem qualified to stay in the school. Perhaps he had to retake his SAT exam or maybe SAT scores were used for his admission in the first place? So he has now graduated from Columbia unless NYP is disputing that too?
It sounds like a marital dispute between ex-spouses. Bolat is not a kid, a power of attorney is a power of attorney. For him to now (2012) claim, he was under a different impression of what was supposed to be done in (2008) after their marriage is annulled in (2011) smacks of a stingy ex-spouse worming his way out of alimony. Read here
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QUOTE(Sookie Stackhouse @ Jun 14 2012, 02:52 PM)
The Opposition media is having a ball with the recent news on Daniyar Nazarbayev. In case you don’t who know he is, he is the former stepson of Kazakh president, Nursultan Nazarbayev’s brother (what a mouthful!) .  More importantly, he also happens to be Najib Razak’s future son in law.  The New York Post, citing court documents, claims that Daniyar allegedly conned his stepfather out of a US$20 million Plaza condo  as well as his way into Columbia University.
FYI the New York Post has yet to actually publish the actual court documents.  It kind of has the same feel when Suaram claimed that they had damning evidence on Scorpene but were unable to take it out of France.
How credible is New York Post anyway as it’s known for its sensationalized style of writing? Well, did you know that the New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch, who happened to be the owner of UK tabloid, News of the World.  News of the World was forced to close due to public backlash and the withdrawal of advertising as a result of the phone hacking scandal in 2011. It was discovered that nearly a decade earlier, a private investigator hired by the newspaper had intercepted and deleted the voicemail of missing British teenager Milly Dowler, who was later found murdered. The scandal deepened when the paper was alleged to have hacked into the phones of families of British service personnel killed in action. Incidentally, the New York Post was also responsible for issuing an article, claiming that the hotel housekeeper Dominique Strauss-Kahn was accused of sexually assaulting was actually a prostitute. (The woman has since sued The Post)
Now as for academic fraud, note that Daniyar has graduated from Columbia.  What is in dispute is his high school qualifications.  Also note that Columbia was made aware of it and it appears that Daniyar was deem qualified to stay in the school.  Perhaps he had to retake his SAT exam or maybe SAT scores were used for his admission in the first place? So he has now graduated from Columbia unless NYP is disputing that too?
Back to the case, as for academic fraud, note that Daniyar has graduated from Columbia.  What is in dispute is his high school qualifications.  Also note that Columbia was made aware of it and it appears that Daniyar was deem qualified to stay in the school.  Perhaps he had to retake his SAT exam or maybe SAT scores were used for his admission in the first place? So he has now graduated from Columbia unless NYP is disputing that too?
It sounds like a marital dispute between ex-spouses. Bolat is not a kid, a power of attorney is a power of attorney.  For him to now (2012) claim, he was under a different impression of what was supposed to be done in (2008) after their marriage is annulled in (2011) smacks of a stingy ex-spouse worming his way out of alimony. Read here
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Najib going to French Jail, Son-in-law going to American Jail, Rosmah going to Kamunting for possession of corrupted money. Daughter to join the in-coming govt called PKR. Altantuya is watching from a distance….

The latest joint venture between Malaysia and Kazakhstan – Posh Criminals Inc.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-21...ds-newsxmlLooks like PM Najib’s daughter has got herself into a big mess and will have to do a lot of soul searching. Can someone check and see if Daniyar Nazarbayev has already been granted Malaysian citizenship? Because if he is already a Malaysian citizen, the BN government would be glad to go all out, at any cost, to protect and save him. Daniyar’s skills in swindling would definitely be an ‘asset’ to our nation!
Soon, after getting married to PM daughter, this ‘conman’ will automatically become ‘melayu’ and therefore an UMNO member. This party is just suit him well. To Najib, congrates and good luck.

This guy Daniyar and his mother have successfully trapped the Najib family. His mother is a known gangster/mobster in Kazakhstan. This was planned much earlier and executed well by the mother and son team. Kesian Najib, Rosmah and Najwa. What goes around (Mongolia) comes around ( Kazakhstan). KARMA!!See those were not rumours about this future son-in-law of Malaysia’s 1st Lady Rosmah Mansoh, he is indeed from a Con Artist family, now everything is in the court coming from none other than his own Stepfather himself, Thieves will always band with Thieves, how apt !! Rosmah conned a condo from Sharizat Not too long ago we have one son-in-law who acts like a pm..but only on local ground…now we are going to have another one who cheats …but this one is better..he goes international…

This act of giving funds only to BN constituencies is a blatant corrupt practice. There is no way to justify the exclusion of Pakatan MPs either legally or ethically. Which begs the question-where are the institutions of government that will prevent such abuses from taking place? Where are the watchdogs? That is what is frustrating for Malaysians. The government cannot just to be chastised by civil society and the opposition. The relevant institutions need to stand up and do their part in righting the wrongs and not merely play politics!

MPs who will receive this RM1.5 million to account for every sen of it and not use this money as their campaign fund in the next GE. I hope PR will set up a monitoring body and report to the EC and MACC if any misuse is detected. All Malaysian pay taxes, but why some constituency gets more perks while other not? Is it all BN-held constituency are poorer compare to others? If that is the case then I can understand, and realized thats due to BN’s poor management. But if those constituency are rich, then why bother? Our tax money is not BN’s private coffer. RM1.5 million breakdown = RM1 million indirectly to MPs election fund. RM500,000 project for kampung/villages, crony contractor get 50% profit. So actually only RM250,000 reach the rakyat.No politician occupying the top post would envy Najib’s position. He is under siege from many within his own party, who want to be nominated to stand in the GE13, and never mind those without. He is a desperate man—so desperate, in fact, that he did something as silly and unproductive as spending RM32 million on the Million Youths Rally at Putrajaya last month. And it shows on his face, too. Look at his picture. He looks at least 10 years older than his biological age. Unfortunately, the fund will be channeled to their own pockets instead of helping the needed people. Najib is using this RM 1.5 million to buy loyalty. this kind of allocation is very unfair to the voters in the PR held constituencies and who have voted BN in GE12. They might as well vote for PR

The proposal to dish out RM1.5 million more to each BN-held constituency shows Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak is becoming desperate in light of the looming general election, Opposition Leader Anwar Ibrahim said.

Standard & Poor’s – the global credit rating agency – has threatened to downgrade Malaysia to a junk investment grade status. Should this happen, Malaysia’s reputation will take a big hit. The first fallen angel amongst the BRIC nations as the papers have been screaming. Malaysia will struggle to raises foreign capital to fuel its ambitious growth agenda if this happens. But can one really blame S&P for its statement. Is it off the mark when it says that the politics is the real culprit in Barisan-UMNO Malaysia?

A lot of people have complained about the Barisan-UMNO non-performance. Many have said that the problems come from within the Barisan-UMNO , not outside. What this statement really means is that no2is really an opposition leader who pretends to be part of the Barisan-UMNO. It’s perhaps only because he sees the Central government as a sort of piggy bank which he can withdraw money from all the time that he continues to be counted as a leader of the umno. There is not even a pretence of an ideological point of view on this subject or a care for the national good; it’s like the threat of a kidnapper who has taken someone hostage.

Barisan Nasional’s (BN) latest allocation of over RM200 million for its MPs to plough into their constituencies despite Datuk Seri Najib Razak’s pledges to rein in the deficit betrays the prime minister’s desperation ahead of federal polls, says Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim.

With Putrajaya admitting it is unlikely to meet GDP growth projections this year, leading to a larger budget deficit, the opposition leader took aim at the Najib administration, saying the move to hand each BN federal lawmaker RM1.5 million was “not proper.”

“The PM also said they can spend in cash, giving up to RM5,000 to their constituents. This is not proper,” the PKR de facto leader told a press conference.
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Nephew of Kazakh president is great success after 'conning his way into Columbia University and scamming his stepfather out of $20 million apartment'


The former nephew of the president of Kazakhstan had 'great success' after he conned his way into Columbia University and scammed his stepfather, the president's brother, out of a 'very nice' $20 million New York City apartment, according to a lawsuit.

Daniyar Nazarbayev's American adventure is a tale that puts to shame even the mighty Borat, the fictional Kazakh TV producer who lampooned the former Soviet republic on screen in 2006.

Mr Nazarbaye, 24, who fled from the US, is now reportedly engaged to marry the daughter of the prime minister of Malaysia, whom he met at the Ivy League university.

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Con man? Daniyar Nazarbayev allegedly used his ill-gotten admission to Columbia University to woo Nooryana Najwa, the daughter of Malaysia's prime minister

Bolat Nazarbayev, the brother of longtime president Nursultan Nazarbayev, is suing Daniyar Nazarbayev and his mother Maira Kesikbayev in a Manhattan court, claiming they are both international serial swindlers who stole a $20 million condo at the Plaza Hotel from him, the New York Post reports.

They also used a pair of luxury Wall Street apartment on his dime, Bolat Nazarbayev claims.

Bolat and Maira were married in 2001, but their union was annulled last after he learned his wife was wanted by both Kazakh police and Interpol for a variety of crimes, including kidnapping and extortion, the Post says.

Maira goes by several aliases, the lawsuit claims.

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First family: Bolat Nazarbayev (left), the brother of longtime Kazakh president Nursultan Nazarbayev (right), claims his ex-wife and her son used his name to swindle him out of a $20 million luxury condo

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Maira had her son's last name changed from Kesikbayev to Nazarbayev on his birth certificate after the wedding -- an effort to cement Daniyar's status as part of the first family of Kazakhstan, according to the newspaper.

Daniyar used his new last name and forged documents saying he graduated from a high school in Kazakhstan to get into Columbia, the lawsuit claims.

Bolat alleges his former stepson actually went to a high school in Switzerland, but never graduated.

Daniyar earned a degree from Columbia in 2010. School officials were made aware of the allegations against him, but have not taken action, the Post reports.

While at Columbia, he used his good looks to woo Nooryana Najwa, the daughter of Malaysia's prime minister.

Bolat claims tasked Daniyar with finding a luxury apartment in New York for him and gave his stepson power of attorney in 2008 so he could sign the title for Bolat.

Instead of signing Bolat's name, Daniyar signed his mother's. Eight months later, she sold the ritzy condo to her son for $1, the lawsuit says.


Added on June 14, 2012, 3:27 pmCourt document

can be downloaded from http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/
Case ID - 651351/2012
document number 1

there's more document under the same case ID

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post Jun 14 2012, 04:40 PM

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I don't really believe NY post allegation untill I read the US court paper because it is always easy to make allegation without evidence. The court has not accounced results of the case, it is too soon to conclude.

I am curious why many Malaysians buzz around the issue and help NY post spread the negative news to tarnish PM and our country, we should unite to defend the country's reputation.
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QUOTE(iloveathena @ Jun 14 2012, 04:40 PM)
I don't really believe NY post allegation untill I read the US court paper because it is always easy to make allegation without evidence. The court has not accounced results of the case, it is too soon to conclude.

I am curious why many Malaysians buzz around the issue and help NY post spread the negative news to tarnish PM and our country, we should unite to defend the country's reputation.
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Court document can be downloaded from http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/
Case ID - 651351/2012
there's more document under the same case ID
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QUOTE(iloveathena @ Jun 14 2012, 04:40 PM)
I don't really believe NY post allegation untill I read the US court paper because it is always easy to make allegation without evidence. The court has not accounced results of the case, it is too soon to conclude.

I am curious why many Malaysians buzz around the issue and help NY post spread the negative news to tarnish PM and our country, we should unite to defend the country's reputation.
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I have to disagree on this. If the negative news is true, there is nothing wrong to criticize our country. If our country's government is at fault, we must not cover it. If we really want to defend our country's reputation, we should try our best to stop our politicians from doing bad things or something that can affect our country's reputation instead of covering the issues.

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QUOTE(iloveathena @ Jun 14 2012, 04:40 PM)
I don't really believe NY post allegation untill I read the US court paper because it is always easy to make allegation without evidence. The court has not accounced results of the case, it is too soon to conclude.

I am curious why many Malaysians buzz around the issue and help NY post spread the negative news to tarnish PM and our country, we should unite to defend the country's reputation.
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haha, you think people really so free to come out all this fake thing meh? you think malaysia so capable? please la, if this is fake news, NY post already kena sue 99 liao, no need people like you talk kok here, your boss najib will do something cool2.gif cool2.gif (dunno NY post reporter will kena bom or not)
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i love this.. what comes around goes around..

UMNO media recently used Azmin's sister and mother issues to personally attack Azmin and Anwar.

im not in favour using personal /family issues to attack politicians.

but i can pleasantly smile on this. Najib issues seem much worse..
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Jun 15 2012, 10:14 AM)
i love this.. what comes around goes around..

UMNO media recently used Azmin's sister and mother issues to personally attack Azmin and Anwar.

im not in favour using personal /family issues to attack politicians.

but i can pleasantly smile on this. Najib issues seem much worse..
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Najib has a good relationship with the President of Kazakhstan and both countries have diplomatic ties. He visited the country sometime last year. Surely the president would have told Najib if the mother of his future in law is a wanted criminal right? Full article here
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QUOTE(napoli26 @ Jun 14 2012, 06:24 PM)
haha, you think people really so free to come out all this fake thing meh? you think malaysia so capable? please la, if this is fake news, NY post already kena sue 99 liao, no need people like you talk kok here, your boss najib will do something cool2.gif  cool2.gif  (dunno NY post reporter will kena bom or not)
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Agree. US some more.
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QUOTE(iloveathena @ Jun 14 2012, 04:40 PM)
I don't really believe NY post allegation untill I read the US court paper because it is always easy to make allegation without evidence. The court has not accounced results of the case, it is too soon to conclude.

I am curious why many Malaysians buzz around the issue and help NY post spread the negative news to tarnish PM and our country, we should unite to defend the country's reputation.
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Defend what?
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QUOTE(Sookie Stackhouse @ Jun 15 2012, 10:22 AM)
Najib has a good relationship with the President of Kazakhstan and both countries have diplomatic ties.  He visited the country sometime last year. Surely the president would have told Najib if the mother of his future in law is a wanted criminal right? Full article here
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maybe his /her status as 'wanted criminal' like Najib himself.. allegedly doing something wrong but not proven by law, yet.. cut from same cloth.. good for them..
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QUOTE(dundermifflin @ Jun 15 2012, 10:52 AM)
maybe his /her status as 'wanted criminal' like Najib himself.. allegedly doing something wrong but not proven by law, yet.. cut from same cloth.. good for them..
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Did you know that Maira Nazarbayeva (Daniyar's mum) has responded regarding allegations on Daniyar and the family? As expected, these are just false allegations and nothing more. Read about it here.
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QUOTE(theautobot12 @ Jun 15 2012, 01:36 PM)
Did you know that Maira Nazarbayeva (Daniyar's mum) has responded regarding allegations on Daniyar and the family? As expected, these are just false allegations and nothing more. Read about it here.
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he grifter who swindled his gloriously connected Kazakh stepfather out of a $20 million Plaza condo also conned his way into Columbia University, court papers charge.

Daniyar Nazarbayev — whose stepdad is the brother of Kazak President Nursultan Nazarbayev — landed at the college using “fraudulent and fabricated” paperwork from a high school he didn’t actually attend, the court papers say.

When applying, Daniyar allegedly claimed he had graduated from a high school in Kazakhstan.

He actually went to high school in Switzerland — and never graduated, sources said.

Even Daniyar’s influential last name isn’t real, the court papers say.

His actual surname is Kesikbayev. His mother, Maira, allegedly had his birth certificate changed after she married Bolat Nazarbayev in 2001.

The marriage was annulled last year.

Daniyar, now 24, graduated from Columbia in 2010. A knowledgeable source said that the allegations were reported to Columbia but that it was unclear whether school officials had taken action.

Daniyar’s name is still in the school’s alumni directory.

A Columbia spokesman refused to comment.

The allegations are part of Bolat’s suit against Maira and her son in Manhattan Supreme Court, where he has accused them of taking advantage of his trust to swipe the Plaza pad and help themselves to two other multimillion-dollar apartments on Wall Street.

Bolat says he has discovered that Maira has had several aliases — and that she’s wanted by Interpol and Kazakh authorities for crimes including kidnapping and extortion.

But Maira, 50, now lives in her son’s condo at The Plaza, a four-bedroom, 4,000-square-foot apartment with 3 1/2 bathrooms. It has been listed as a $68,000-a-month rental.

She was unable to be reached for comment. There was no phone number for the apartment, and The Post was not allowed by Plaza security to knock on her door last week.

Daniyar, meanwhile, is missing.

In court filings, Bolat’s lawyers said they have searched for him in five countries — including Malaysia, where he’s reportedly engaged to the prime minister’s daughter, Nooryana Najwa, whom a source said he met at Columbia.

Bolat had been looking to buy a New York apartment in 2008, and Maira and Daniyar got him to give them power of attorney so they could close the deal without him present...

The suit says Daniyar was supposed to put the apartment in his stepdad’s name but added his mom’s. About eight months later, she sold it to Daniyar for $1, court papers say.



http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhatt...2MO90nyHRMCyctL
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QUOTE(theautobot12 @ Jun 15 2012, 01:36 PM)
Did you know that Maira Nazarbayeva (Daniyar's mum) has responded regarding allegations on Daniyar and the family? As expected, these are just false allegations and nothing more. Read about it here.
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to be perfectly honest, this is non issue.. or at least, non issue for for me as Malaysian..

just saying, what goes around comes around. u attack your enemies with family issues (in Azmin's and Anwar's cases), some people (supporters) will retaliate and attack your families back.. live with it, endure it.. if all these are wild allegations, there's nothing to worry..
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With everyone targetting Najib, the said guy and his mother, how come nobody seems to wonder that Najib's daughter is doing right now? One can wonder if she will feel ashamed or distraught. Maybe someone can highlight this for us?
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Really salute!! thanks for sharing

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Wow, thanks for the info and the links to the new york courts.
Karma bites back twice as bad!

I hope we all will have the true picture/answers soon, once Interpol catches with them.


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QUOTE(Sookie Stackhouse @ Jun 18 2012, 11:42 AM)
Not seen any reports with regards to Najib's daughter. If I were here I'd just ignore all these negative allegations.

Just read something interesting about the NY Post. It's owned by Ruper Murdoch for owned News of the World (the UK tabloid that was closed down) Read  here
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lol no need to be sarcastic

Journalists in most part of the world like in the US are bound by code of ethics. Sure we still have news that are bias to one party or the other but there are no laws to force them to be. It is by their own choosing. Like FOX is usually referred to as a Republican mouth piece. It is however not the only mainstream news channel. Everyone has a chance to have difference sources of info and make up their mind.

In Malaysia, the main stream media is control by the printing and publishing act whereby any media need to be approved from the ministry of information before being allowed to publish their stories. All newspapers and news channels need to submit their stories to the ministry to approve. Journalists in UTUSAN and The Star resigned on mass when the takeovers were done as they feared meddling. Just look at NST for example, the replacement of the word Scientology with Islam. Is this responsible reporting?

You may argue that we have the same freedom with the likes of Malaysiakini, MalaysianInsider, Harakah, DAPKini etc.. but these arent Main Stream media, they dont have mass circulation and dont reach out to everyone. Mostly people from the city have access but those in the rural areas only have RTM and TV3 as guides. Which are of course pro government channels. With absolutely no access to other channels.

As for the New York Post, it is reputable newspaper going back a hundred or so years. It has a generation of dedicated journalists who are committed to their job. Murdoch might own the paper, but he doesnt tell them what to write cause if that is the case, they would resign. Your argument is flawed at the first sentence as you dont even know the history of the paper.
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even though we have provide the ACTUAL document to strengthen the facts, BN supporters seems to ignore and continue to defend based on the source coming from Rosmah/Najib/BN tongue.gif
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Jun 18 2012, 03:51 PM)
even though we have provide the ACTUAL document to strengthen the facts, BN supporters seems to ignore and continue to defend based on the source coming from Rosmah/Najib/BN tongue.gif
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Jun 18 2012, 12:59 PM)
Wow, thanks for the info and the links to the new york courts.
Karma bites back twice as bad!

I hope we all will have the true picture/answers soon, once Interpol catches with them.
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well don't be surprised that the supposed chase by Interpol is actually fabricated and non-existent. these people would do anything to make a story sell..new york post, so no surprises la right yawn.gif
plus, she's happily free to make comments over a span of many days. i would think interpol shouldn't be so inefficient if they were really hunting the family down, no? whistling.gif

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QUOTE(theautobot12 @ Jun 18 2012, 04:07 PM)
well don't be surprised that the supposed chase by Interpol is actually fabricated and non-existent. these people would do anything to make a story sell..new york post, so no surprises la right  yawn.gif
plus, she's happily free to make comments over a span of many days. i would think interpol shouldn't be so inefficient if they were really hunting the family down, no?  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(theautobot12 @ Jun 18 2012, 04:07 PM)
well don't be surprised that the supposed chase by Interpol is actually fabricated and non-existent. these people would do anything to make a story sell..new york post, so no surprises la right  yawn.gif
plus, she's happily free to make comments over a span of many days. i would think interpol shouldn't be so inefficient if they were really hunting the family down, no?  whistling.gif
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promote blog nampak? The articles looks similar to TS. Have you ever check this?

Court document can be downloaded from http://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/iscroll/
Case ID - 651351/2012
document number 1

there's more document under the same case ID

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I believe you (and other BN hardcore supporters + internet bots) would say this case is fabricated by USA to embarrass Malaysia.

This post has been edited by soundsyst64: Jun 18 2012, 04:28 PM
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post Jun 19 2012, 07:52 AM

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bn polishers are always like that deny reports against them and believe otherwise.
go on sue the Ny post or any media that reports this issue tongue.gif
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post Jun 19 2012, 08:11 AM

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QUOTE(DM3 @ Jun 19 2012, 07:52 AM)
bn polishers are always like that deny reports against them and believe otherwise.
go on sue the Ny post or any media that reports this issue tongue.gif
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both same.. vice versa..

for me, just keep it calm.. treat all news /rumours as a new information.. information are not necessarily true. process it, evaluate it yourself..

even established media like TV3 and Utusan providing us bullshite news /rumours / informations every single days.. technically, they are not lying (they knew they face greater risk to legal action).. they just giving us half the facts, hide another half to support their causes..

same to alternative media (pro BN or PR).. some of them hiding their face, having some fun with ridiculous and wild allegations..
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post Jun 19 2012, 10:35 AM

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how many supporting document u give, they only care about how much money they will gain by protecting BN.

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