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7chai
post Aug 9 2007, 11:00 PM


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QUOTE(cktee83 @ Aug 9 2007, 10:58 PM)
It'd be nice if i could contact him.

BTW, nice meeting u all. You all have been very kind notworthy.gif

Anyone gonna play in the Nationals?
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basically most of the people here are not qualify for National.

btw, my father's side relative all also stay in Seremban as well.
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:16 PM


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QUOTE(7chai @ Aug 9 2007, 11:00 PM)
basically most of the people here are not qualify for National.

btw, my father's side relative all also stay in Seremban as well.
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Well, there's nothing wrong with casual playing. It's just as fun.

Guess it's really difficult and takes a lot of time and money to play competitively huh?


Great to hear that u r familiar with S'ban. Whenever u r down, do contact me....

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post Aug 9 2007, 11:21 PM


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QUOTE(cktee83 @ Aug 9 2007, 11:16 PM)
Well, there's nothing wrong with casual playing. It's just as fun.

Guess it's really difficult and takes a lot of time and money to play competitively huh?
Great to hear that u r familiar with S'ban. Whenever u r down, do contact me....
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Time, Effort, Money and Talent.

Ok then. I will go there on CNY for sure. rclxms.gif
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:26 PM


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Wanna ask opinion from u guys, anyone believe in going rogue to break the standard metagame?

For me, the challenge is always here.
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:31 PM


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QUOTE(cktee83 @ Aug 9 2007, 11:26 PM)
Wanna ask opinion from u guys, anyone believe in going rogue to break the standard metagame?

For me, the challenge is always here.
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THere always have the possible.

But of coz, make sure ur deck is rogue enuff la
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post Aug 9 2007, 11:36 PM


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QUOTE(7chai @ Aug 9 2007, 11:31 PM)
THere always have the possible.

But of coz, make sure ur deck is rogue enuff la
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Rogue is one thing, but we just can't ignore the obviously good cards right? e.g tarmagoyf


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post Aug 9 2007, 11:41 PM


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QUOTE(cktee83 @ Aug 9 2007, 11:36 PM)
Rogue is one thing, but we just can't ignore the obviously good cards right? e.g tarmagoyf
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Okay, tarmagoyf are widely using in Aggro, aggro control deck. So if u can afford that card, why not ? Its like, if u play green is either tarmogoyf or troll ascetic would give u more winning condition. Of coz it depends on what kind of deck u building/playing.
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well i'm goign qualifiers...
rogue is always good...
regionals my super weak mono black deck was clsoe of going top 8...

its under hobbies so dun alzy find the thread XD
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post Aug 10 2007, 01:12 AM


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Problem is for a rogue deck to be succesful, you will have to play test it extensively against your suspected metagame in Nationals.

For the moment it means your rogue deck will have to be able to have better than 50% chance of winning Aggro decks with Goyf, Gargadon, Troll Ascetic, and/or green instant beat, which I think would be half the field, and also have decent chance against those pickles/blink touch/teferi/solar flare decks.

With so many viable decks around it is difficult to go rogue. If you know the format is dominatly 3-4 decks that maybe is possible to play test a rogue deck and tune it against majority of the decks, but if more than that it would be too much work.
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QUOTE(camlok @ Aug 10 2007, 01:12 AM)
Problem is for a rogue deck to be succesful, you will have to play test it extensively against your suspected metagame in Nationals.

For the moment it means your rogue deck will have to be able to have better than 50% chance of winning Aggro decks with Goyf, Gargadon, Troll Ascetic, and/or green instant beat, which I think would be half the field, and also have decent chance against those pickles/blink touch/teferi/solar flare decks.

With so many viable decks around it is difficult to go rogue. If you know the format is dominatly 3-4 decks that maybe is possible to play test a rogue deck and tune it against majority of the decks, but if more than that it would be too much work.
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You got it almost spot on. The reason why people normally net-deck is because they don't have the time to spend tweaking and fine-tuning decks of their own creation. Besides it's not only has to do with how you want the deck to perform by itself but also how does the deck peform against the rest of the field (or meta).

Most simple and efficient way is to net-deck and sideboard according to your local metagame. Say you expect lots of dredge at a compy , then you'll prepare your sideboard more towards Dredge , same goes for other decks.

But to be honest , with worldwide nationals coming up and all . The current metagme has got quite a few decks which are quite good at the moment. Most notable are the different variants of blink decks which utilize Momentary Blink and Venser. Rakdos and OmniChord also seem to be quite popular too. On the fringe of these decks will probably be decks like Mono-Green Aggro and Red-deck Wins.


By the way for anyone who is interested in drafting , I'm trying to organize an 8 man pod for this Saturday at around 3pm @ Manawerx. I'm trying to keep this pod open for the intermediate players , so the picking order will be 1-1-1-1 formula. If anyone is interested can probably post here or drop me a pm / sms.

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QUOTE(cktee83 @ Aug 9 2007, 10:34 PM)
U mean Manawerx right?

Been in contact with Victor and he said the shop's open this Saturday.

Care to join me?
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Yeah I will be there this Saturday...

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By the way for anyone who is interested in drafting , I'm trying to organize an 8 man pod for this Saturday at around 3pm @ Manawerx. I'm trying to keep this pod open for the intermediate players , so the picking order will be 1-1-1-1 formula. If anyone is interested can probably post here or drop me a pm / sms.
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Yeah, this Saturday. Count me in.
By the way Victor, why won't there be picks for uncommons?
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QUOTE(Holi^oNe @ Aug 10 2007, 05:03 AM)
You got it almost spot on. The reason why people normally net-deck is because they don't have the time to spend tweaking and fine-tuning decks of their own creation. Besides it's not only has to do with how you want the deck to perform by itself but also how does the deck peform against the rest of the field (or meta).

Most simple and efficient way is to net-deck and sideboard according to your local metagame. Say you expect lots of dredge at a compy , then you'll prepare your sideboard more towards Dredge , same goes for other decks.

But to be honest , with worldwide nationals coming up and all . The current metagme has got quite a few decks which are quite good at the moment. Most notable are the different variants of blink decks which utilize Momentary Blink and Venser. Rakdos and OmniChord also seem to be quite popular too. On the fringe of these decks will probably be decks like Mono-Green Aggro and Red-deck Wins.
By the way for anyone who is interested in drafting , I'm trying to organize an 8 man pod for this Saturday at around 3pm @ Manawerx. I'm trying to keep this pod open for the intermediate players , so the picking order will be 1-1-1-1 formula. If anyone is interested can probably post here or drop me a pm / sms.
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So far I would say Omnichord would be the finest control deck.
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Er Victor, I have a little change of plan. Just a sudden change. I will be there tomorrow but have to leave early cause I'm having dinner with my grandparents and relatives....

I will probably be leaving around 6 I guess, but I will be going....
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Yoh!!! Hisashiburi~~~

Sigh... Sori Holi cant make it this Saturday... Really want to go
But I have a reunion with my ex-schoolmates in PD... Maybe next time... will be going if its a 1:1:1:1 draft anytime later

Bye-bee~~~
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erm i dunt hink omni cord could be in the class of control deck...
not much control elements in the deck but rather its too creature heavy to be in the control class...
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QUOTE(Holi^oNe @ Aug 10 2007, 05:03 AM)
By the way for anyone who is interested in drafting , I'm trying to organize an 8 man pod for this Saturday at around 3pm @ Manawerx. I'm trying to keep this pod open for the intermediate players , so the picking order will be 1-1-1-1 formula. If anyone is interested can probably post here or drop me a pm / sms.
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Great!

I think I should be there this Saturday anyways, so I'll look see look see and maybe join.

Still unsure about the rules though. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(Holi^oNe @ Aug 10 2007, 05:03 AM)
You got it almost spot on. The reason why people normally net-deck is because they don't have the time to spend tweaking and fine-tuning decks of their own creation. Besides it's not only has to do with how you want the deck to perform by itself but also how does the deck peform against the rest of the field (or meta).

Most simple and efficient way is to net-deck and sideboard according to your local metagame. Say you expect lots of dredge at a compy , then you'll prepare your sideboard more towards Dredge , same goes for other decks.

But to be honest , with worldwide nationals coming up and all . The current metagme has got quite a few decks which are quite good at the moment. Most notable are the different variants of blink decks which utilize Momentary Blink and Venser. Rakdos and OmniChord also seem to be quite popular too. On the fringe of these decks will probably be decks like Mono-Green Aggro and Red-deck Wins.
By the way for anyone who is interested in drafting , I'm trying to organize an 8 man pod for this Saturday at around 3pm @ Manawerx. I'm trying to keep this pod open for the intermediate players , so the picking order will be 1-1-1-1 formula. If anyone is interested can probably post here or drop me a pm / sms.
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Im not sure I will come or not ... but if i come is mostly is to practice for Nationals Qualifiers. I will not be joining the draft. If anyone from Cyberjaya goin to Manawerx ... can pick me up ??
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hello...anyone here have details on the ipoh nationals qualifiers this sunday? i'd like to know the start time and location.
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heres the venue... not sure bout the start time and details though

Venue: Game Vault, 15A Jalan Medan Ipoh 6, Bandar Baru
Medan, 31400 Ipoh
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Damn everyone's going to the qualifier this Sunday, I'll probably skip it and wait for the KL one instead.
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