Just to see which one would be more prefer by LYN members.....
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Honda Jazz Hybrid or Toyota Prius C, Small Car Choice
Honda Jazz Hybrid or Toyota Prius C, Small Car Choice
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Mar 20 2012, 05:20 PM, updated 12y ago
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Just to see which one would be more prefer by LYN members.....
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Mar 20 2012, 05:24 PM
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I'm guess the Prius will win ^.^
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Mar 20 2012, 05:30 PM
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whats the point of this comparison? we have enough in other threads.
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Mar 20 2012, 07:45 PM
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Mar 20 2012, 11:06 PM
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I vote Prius C... But if I will buy I think both car is definitely not in my list... Petrol price still cheap better spend 50k for Myvi and reserve 45k for petrol!
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Mar 20 2012, 11:32 PM
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I choose honda jazz hybrid becoz
1. Simple hybrid setup & make sense. 2. a bit better interior quality 3. spacious than prius C. |
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Mar 20 2012, 11:58 PM
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i dont know why the jazz hybrid is so expensive
i thought its tax free? |
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Mar 21 2012, 12:42 AM
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dont think is that ex, dont campare with oveaseas.. coz they have volume..
both car equally good.. slight towards jazz, for space, 8airbags n better interior. toyota for its hybrid tech |
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Mar 21 2012, 12:52 AM
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Mar 21 2012, 01:04 AM
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well i counted 8 when i was thr..
2 front 2 side 4 curtain This post has been edited by kevafk: Mar 21 2012, 01:06 AM |
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Mar 21 2012, 08:00 AM
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Mar 21 2012, 08:08 AM
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Mar 21 2012, 12:42 AM) dont think is that ex, dont campare with oveaseas.. coz they have volume.. agree with you in particular space and interior, Jazz is better. Looks also good.both car equally good.. slight towards jazz, for space, 8airbags n better interior. toyota for its hybrid tech As for C, it wins in tech (if it is the same as the elder bro Prius) and new and fresh look, but the interior ........... |
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Mar 21 2012, 08:08 AM
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Go for Jazz looks
or Go for Prius Technology If can't decide on both....meaning either one is OK....so now it becomes which is more easier on the wallet.....check the FC, Maintenance cost....and do the batery last?.....ppl will say Toyota is real hybrid and battery can last 10 years and Honda technology not real hybrid....battery warranty is also a problem. After you have done all this...then buy the car and never look back because you have picked the best car for yourself. Cheers |
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Mar 21 2012, 09:57 AM
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design i would take jazz.
hybrid tech i would take toyota..... oh man..... |
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Mar 21 2012, 10:29 AM
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Mar 21 2012, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Mar 21 2012, 11:29 AM) Honda Malaysia website said Jazz hybrid has 6 airbags, looks like Honda Malaysia doesn't even know their own product well. Maybe its the curtain Airbag.. its either 4 or 2.. the rest are the same... Maybe less 2 but not sure as some say 8 but website say 6 but not shown with proper picture. Also Specification did not also list out just say have curtain Airbag.. confusing.... |
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Mar 21 2012, 03:05 PM
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QUOTE(kevafk @ Mar 21 2012, 01:04 AM) Jazz Hybrid confirmed 6 airbags: 2 front, 2 side n curtain is only 2 on each sides, not 4 curtain airbags on each windows.Curtain airbags will deploy fr A pillar to C pillar. Prius C got 7 airbags, the extra one is for the driver's knee protection. Malaysia is selling 6 hybrid cars, 3 fr Toyota & 3 fr Honda: Prius 1.8, Prius C, Lexus CT200H, Insight, CRZ & Jazz Hybrid. Jazz Hybrid presence in Europe is quite weak. Prius is gaining momentum strongly bcos of their popular proven HSD system. For US market, all the above models is selling there except Jazz Hybrid. Jazz Hybrid still can't penetrate their market yet, as we all know US is very strict on the safety n quality issues (other reason is protecting their GM interest) by giving a lot of rules n regulations. So now.. can judge for yourself which one is better.. Jazz Hybrid or Priius C... |
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Mar 22 2012, 08:31 AM
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I am having the same dilemma. Last weekend, test drove BOTH the Jazz Hybrid and the Prius C.
Still not sure which car to buy, will decide by the end of April the latest. So hard to choose as both has its pros and cons. PROS Jazz: -Really light steering, straightforward CVT gear shift -Spacious interior, "magic seats" -IMA battery 5 years warranty, cheaper replacement ~RM7K -Car can still go with dead battery. Prius C: -much more electronics (eg touch start, keyless entry, MFD etc) -Save more $ on gas -Continuous air cond when car is stopped. -Currently #1 best selling hybrid in US & Japan -HSD battery higher millage, better quality and built to last longer -Full sized spare tyre CONS Jazz: -Less gas saved on IMA hybrid system -less electronics -IMA battery more prone to failure (according to some news articles) -no spare tyres, IMA battery located @ tyre bay, also noticed "cheap" white foam insulation surrounding IMA battery Prius C: -Only 3 years warranty on battery, and more expensive to change ~RM12K -interior size, width and length is same as Jazz, except for height, which is 8 cm less. -ancient gear shift box , no CVT -stiffer steering and more abrupt braking -need to tow the car if battery failure, cannot use petrol as back up. Another CON for both: -No option to upgrade to leather seats, I am really hesitant to install them outside for fears of quality/warranty. -Although Prius C offers upgrade to the 2DIN multi media screen, its NOT the same one as used in the USA market. It doesn't have Entune software, which hooks to your phone for internet for Bing, internet radio, etc FYI I read somewhere that during launching, Jazz was expected to sell 3000 cars a year in msia, and Prius C is ~4000. Right now, in north america, Prius C sales are 6000 A MONTH Although 2012 Jazz Hybrid skips the american market, they will launch the 2013 Full EV Plug in Honda Fit This post has been edited by dingdangdong: Mar 22 2012, 08:55 AM |
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Mar 22 2012, 09:56 AM
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QUOTE(ethan99 @ Mar 20 2012, 11:06 PM) I vote Prius C... But if I will buy I think both car is definitely not in my list... Petrol price still cheap better spend 50k for Myvi and reserve 45k for petrol! Myvi safety & technology is no match with Jazz & Prius C, that is consider as other category of car.QUOTE(dingdangdong @ Mar 22 2012, 08:31 AM) I am having the same dilemma. Last weekend, test drove BOTH the Jazz Hybrid and the Prius C. Wow.. you had done most of the research by comparing it. But it all depends what is your priority. I could said Jazz is more enjoyable as it come with paddle shifts & much better dashboard. Prius C with a bit boring but more practical car as save petrol & better technology.Still not sure which car to buy, will decide by the end of April the latest. So hard to choose as both has its pros and cons. PROS Jazz: -Really light steering, straightforward CVT gear shift -Spacious interior, "magic seats" -IMA battery 5 years warranty, cheaper replacement ~RM7K -Car can still go with dead battery. Prius C: -much more electronics (eg touch start, keyless entry, MFD etc) -Save more $ on gas -Continuous air cond when car is stopped. -Currently #1 best selling hybrid in US & Japan -HSD battery higher millage, better quality and built to last longer -Full sized spare tyre CONS Jazz: -Less gas saved on IMA hybrid system -less electronics -IMA battery more prone to failure (according to some news articles) -no spare tyres, IMA battery located @ tyre bay, also noticed "cheap" white foam insulation surrounding IMA battery Prius C: -Only 3 years warranty on battery, and more expensive to change ~RM12K -interior size, width and length is same as Jazz, except for height, which is 8 cm less. -ancient gear shift box , no CVT -stiffer steering and more abrupt braking -need to tow the car if battery failure, cannot use petrol as back up. Another CON for both: -No option to upgrade to leather seats, I am really hesitant to install them outside for fears of quality/warranty. -Although Prius C offers upgrade to the 2DIN multi media screen, its NOT the same one as used in the USA market. It doesn't have Entune software, which hooks to your phone for internet for Bing, internet radio, etc FYI I read somewhere that during launching, Jazz was expected to sell 3000 cars a year in msia, and Prius C is ~4000. Right now, in north america, Prius C sales are 6000 A MONTH Although 2012 Jazz Hybrid skips the american market, they will launch the 2013 Full EV Plug in Honda Fit This post has been edited by conqu3ror: Mar 22 2012, 09:57 AM |
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Mar 22 2012, 10:14 AM
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» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Nice findings... My choice is still leaning towards to Honda Jazz hybrid. Becoz of it built quality, refine driving experience & a tad bigger than prius C. |
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Mar 22 2012, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(dingdangdong @ Mar 22 2012, 08:31 AM) Prius C: Prius C is using ECVT, which is actually Power Split Device, personally I think its technology is better than CVT, less moving parts and elegant design.-Only 3 years warranty on battery, and more expensive to change ~RM12K -interior size, width and length is same as Jazz, except for height, which is 8 cm less. -ancient gear shift box , no CVT -stiffer steering and more abrupt braking -need to tow the car if battery failure, cannot use petrol as back up. Another CON for both: -No option to upgrade to leather seats, I am really hesitant to install them outside for fears of quality/warranty. -Although Prius C offers upgrade to the 2DIN multi media screen, its NOT the same one as used in the USA market. It doesn't have Entune software, which hooks to your phone for internet for Bing, internet radio, etc If you plan to use phone for internet during driving, you will be disappointed, the actual internet experience during fast moving is like a nightmare, slow slow slow!!! better waiting for LTE to address it. |
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Mar 22 2012, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(Kiding @ Mar 22 2012, 10:15 AM) Prius C is using ECVT, which is actually Power Split Device, personally I think its technology is better than CVT, less moving parts and elegant design. I also didn't like the gear shift in the Prius C, where you have to push left/right in addition to up/down. For the Jazz, its straightforward up/down.If you plan to use phone for internet during driving, you will be disappointed, the actual internet experience during fast moving is like a nightmare, slow slow slow!!! better waiting for LTE to address it. Internet is more for passenger usage, and I think will mostly be used only when stuck in slow moving traffic, or massive jams. Its hard to focus texts in a fast moving vehicle. This post has been edited by dingdangdong: Mar 22 2012, 10:19 AM |
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Mar 22 2012, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(dingdangdong @ Mar 22 2012, 10:17 AM) I also didn't like the gear shift in the Prius C, where you have to push left/right in addition to up/down. For the Jazz, its straightforward up/down. Well Prius C gear box same like my dad Mercedes Benz C220 Gear boxInternet is more for passenger usage, and I think will mostly be used only when stuck in slow moving traffic, or massive jams. Its hard to focus texts in a fast moving vehicle. while Jazz Hybrid same with my Kelisa Gear box which is straight forward... I choose Prius C becos of tech... Anyway hybrid = mean toward of technology instead of look. For those buying for look i believe 94K there are many car who have better look the Jazz while 97K there not much hybrid technology can compare with prius c. |
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Mar 22 2012, 08:39 PM
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Mar 22 2012, 08:57 PM
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Mar 23 2012, 08:38 AM
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Getting a Prius C... will be dropping by a showroom soon....
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Mar 23 2012, 09:00 AM
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Mar 24 2012, 12:01 PM
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While Honda brand is like "Sony", having their own mission, market target, styles etc. Whereby Toyota brand is like "Nokia/Motorola", could a bit more tradition, more in durability, old stylish etc. However @today, VW / Hyundai should be the ones like "Apple / Samsung" synergies. There is not right / wrong, good/bad, but the preferring is depend to us what we want? Anyway i like Sony Video Cam, TV, Camera & their brand standards, therefore i choose "HONDA JAZZ".
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Mar 24 2012, 09:16 PM
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Test drove the Honda jazz hybrid today and am impressed with the overall experience
The interior of the jazz puts the Prius c to shame. After testing the jazz hybrid, immediately went over to Toyota to compare the Prius c. The test drive car already showed very bad wear and tear. The console arm rest already in bad shape. The car interior do not look very durable. In generally looks very cheap |
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Apr 10 2012, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(limkj @ Mar 24 2012, 09:16 PM) Test drove the Honda jazz hybrid today and am impressed with the overall experience Ya Jazz interior is betterThe interior of the jazz puts the Prius c to shame. After testing the jazz hybrid, immediately went over to Toyota to compare the Prius c. The test drive car already showed very bad wear and tear. The console arm rest already in bad shape. The car interior do not look very durable. In generally looks very cheap |
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Apr 10 2012, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(dingdangdong @ Mar 22 2012, 08:31 AM) I am having the same dilemma. Last weekend, test drove BOTH the Jazz Hybrid and the Prius C. My Toyota SA said Prius c battery is same size like Honda not like the brother Prius cos small sized car ... So the battery price oso lower ! He said the H company bought the battery from T .. So it's the same price w HStill not sure which car to buy, will decide by the end of April the latest. So hard to choose as both has its pros and cons. PROS Jazz: -Really light steering, straightforward CVT gear shift -Spacious interior, "magic seats" -IMA battery 5 years warranty, cheaper replacement ~RM7K -Car can still go with dead battery. Prius C: -much more electronics (eg touch start, keyless entry, MFD etc) -Save more $ on gas -Continuous air cond when car is stopped. -Currently #1 best selling hybrid in US & Japan -HSD battery higher millage, better quality and built to last longer -Full sized spare tyre CONS Jazz: -Less gas saved on IMA hybrid system -less electronics -IMA battery more prone to failure (according to some news articles) -no spare tyres, IMA battery located @ tyre bay, also noticed "cheap" white foam insulation surrounding IMA battery Prius C: -Only 3 years warranty on battery, and more expensive to change ~RM12K -interior size, width and length is same as Jazz, except for height, which is 8 cm less. -ancient gear shift box , no CVT -stiffer steering and more abrupt braking -need to tow the car if battery failure, cannot use petrol as back up. Another CON for both: -No option to upgrade to leather seats, I am really hesitant to install them outside for fears of quality/warranty. -Although Prius C offers upgrade to the 2DIN multi media screen, its NOT the same one as used in the USA market. It doesn't have Entune software, which hooks to your phone for internet for Bing, internet radio, etc FYI I read somewhere that during launching, Jazz was expected to sell 3000 cars a year in msia, and Prius C is ~4000. Right now, in north america, Prius C sales are 6000 A MONTH Although 2012 Jazz Hybrid skips the american market, they will launch the 2013 Full EV Plug in Honda Fit This post has been edited by JLPS: Apr 10 2012, 11:02 PM |
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Apr 12 2012, 08:53 PM
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Just proceed the loan with mybank for this car...
Cant wait till next month..., Jazz... He,he,he... |
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Apr 12 2012, 09:54 PM
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QUOTE(JLPS @ Apr 10 2012, 11:00 PM) My Toyota SA said Prius c battery is same size like Honda not like the brother Prius cos small sized car ... So the battery price oso lower ! He said the H company bought the battery from T .. So it's the same price w H Yaya right... T sell to H in very cheap price so H can sell to customer @ even cheaper price... Next time if u got a Prius c.. U can go to H and order ur battery... Save ur money... |
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Apr 16 2012, 05:56 AM
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Apr 30 2012, 10:02 PM
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I do agree Jazz interior,magic seat,etc is better than Prius C, I still prefer P C because it is full hybrid.The first version Prius hybrid's battery back 1997 is still usable until today(at least it has proven evidence in it's claim,for brand H? I'm not really sure).In terms of mileage T is better.An additional of RM 2K I can get 1.5 CC rather than 1.3CC.Prius C booking need to wait at least 7 mths and Jazz Hybrid have to wait only 2 mths,I guess Prius C demand is higher in terms of people waiting in que.I have test drove both cars and found out that they are good cars.Definately quiet and comfortable ride.
I found out that Jazz and Prius C has its pros and cons.Maybe people likes to compare between these two cars is probably they want to stretch their dollar to the max.For me,I like to keep things simple....The future is Hybrid cars. I'm not even worried about the resell value of these cars bcoz I do know the cost of battery replacement will become more and more affordable. |
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May 5 2012, 07:40 AM
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Hmmm, almost equal amout of votes for each car. Here's what I think when I tested both back to back:
http://www.kensomuse.com/2012/05/toyota-pr...azz-hybrid.html |
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May 7 2012, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(dingdangdong @ Mar 22 2012, 08:31 AM) I am having the same dilemma. Last weekend, test drove BOTH the Jazz Hybrid and the Prius C. Very detailed comparison Still not sure which car to buy, will decide by the end of April the latest. So hard to choose as both has its pros and cons. PROS Jazz: -Really light steering, straightforward CVT gear shift -Spacious interior, "magic seats" -IMA battery 5 years warranty, cheaper replacement ~RM7K -Car can still go with dead battery. Prius C: -much more electronics (eg touch start, keyless entry, MFD etc) -Save more $ on gas -Continuous air cond when car is stopped. -Currently #1 best selling hybrid in US & Japan -HSD battery higher millage, better quality and built to last longer -Full sized spare tyre CONS Jazz: -Less gas saved on IMA hybrid system -less electronics -IMA battery more prone to failure (according to some news articles) -no spare tyres, IMA battery located @ tyre bay, also noticed "cheap" white foam insulation surrounding IMA battery Prius C: -Only 3 years warranty on battery, and more expensive to change ~RM12K -interior size, width and length is same as Jazz, except for height, which is 8 cm less. -ancient gear shift box , no CVT -stiffer steering and more abrupt braking -need to tow the car if battery failure, cannot use petrol as back up. Another CON for both: -No option to upgrade to leather seats, I am really hesitant to install them outside for fears of quality/warranty. -Although Prius C offers upgrade to the 2DIN multi media screen, its NOT the same one as used in the USA market. It doesn't have Entune software, which hooks to your phone for internet for Bing, internet radio, etc FYI I read somewhere that during launching, Jazz was expected to sell 3000 cars a year in msia, and Prius C is ~4000. Right now, in north america, Prius C sales are 6000 A MONTH Although 2012 Jazz Hybrid skips the american market, they will launch the 2013 Full EV Plug in Honda Fit We already know the technology and mileage comparison between both models. Prius is on the upper hand on this. But personally, I feel that the Jazz has a much better design. However, apart from the above, it's important to know how the Air-cond compressor in both Hybrid cars actually work when the car is idle, or when battery charge is low. I do not want to find myself baking under the hot sun during afternoon traffic jams ! Equally important is to know the long term maintenance cost. On this point, I believe Prius' much higher sales volume should lead to availability of parts and hopefully lower maintenance costs. Regards, Calvin |
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May 12 2012, 10:33 AM
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hi guys, it is said that, hybrid cars tax exemption will not be thr for long, apparently untill 2013. so by nature, resale value of hybrid cars is already high, plus after 2013 without exemption, logically, selling it above tax-free price can make profit!
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May 14 2012, 01:38 PM
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Test Drive the Jazz yesterday... Love it!
But a few queries: 1) Lack of spare tyre - an issue if travel outstation? 2) Air con - if stuck in non moving jam in KL, means air con off? If put on Nuetral and handbrake, air con on? 3) Going on highway 110,120..... will it feel underpowered? |
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May 20 2012, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE(Powzhaai @ May 14 2012, 01:38 PM) Test Drive the Jazz yesterday... Love it! 1) Spare Tyre: not a big issue, after all who care to use the spare when there is 24hrs on call service offered by insurance companies. Also the spare tyre is meaningless for ladies. But a few queries: 1) Lack of spare tyre - an issue if travel outstation? 2) Air con - if stuck in non moving jam in KL, means air con off? If put on Nuetral and handbrake, air con on? 3) Going on highway 110,120..... will it feel underpowered? 2) Air cond: if u need the air cond, just off the Econ mode, then the engine will re-start back very fast. But with air cond mean consume more fuel. 3) 120km/h? sure no problem, this car can speed from 90 to 130 real fast. over take at high speed no problem! in addition, I done that with ECON On for my Insight... I drove my Insight for 1 year plus, felt happy. No after tested Prius C & Jass Hybrid, I decided to get the Jazz Hybrid for my wife. During test drive, I'm impress that Jazz can reach 100km/h with RPM at around 1000 plus! Long term maintenance I not sure, but thinking of Toyota is having additional component called PSD and hybrid air-cond pump, really make me worried! PSD unit still I don't known what the hack is that. But for air-cond compressor, normally will kapuk around 5-8 years. Normal compressor will cost RM800, recond mb RM400, but Prius using Hybrid type compressor which it not widely use & hard to find recond replace. Cost how much? just estimate yourself la... |
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May 21 2012, 12:13 AM
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Prius C - got spare tyre .Jazz Hybrid - don't have.Prius C - service is cheaper than jazz hybrid.Prius C have better mileage than Jazz Hybrid.Prius C has lower CO2 emission than Jazz H.Prius C engine is 1.5 and Jazz H is 1.3.But Jazz wins over appearance and interior
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May 21 2012, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(ppcbunny @ May 20 2012, 10:32 PM) Long term maintenance I not sure, but thinking of Toyota is having additional component called PSD and hybrid air-cond pump, really make me worried! PSD is Power Split Device, it is also act as electronic CVT, PSD has less moving part, hence longer lifespan.PSD unit still I don't known what the hack is that. But for air-cond compressor, normally will kapuk around 5-8 years. Normal compressor will cost RM800, recond mb RM400, but Prius using Hybrid type compressor which it not widely use & hard to find recond replace. Cost how much? just estimate yourself la... Prius C uses DC inverter compressor, just like the household inverter air-cord compressor, it should be quite long lasting. |
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Jun 22 2012, 09:10 PM
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Closing off this thread/poll......
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