wah?!@@ is tat some kind of MLM company? RM3K summore ar?

Its definately an MLM

haha. how clever for those companies to move away of being labelled MLM eventho they are really MLM. now they associate themselves as network marketing, at least for now coz no one has mentioned N/w marketing negatively yet.

surely after n/w marketing concept enlisted in the blacklist, they'll gonna come up with another concept for their line of work. laterall communication marketing?

Yup, that's right. Truth is, I've also "misused" this thread to advert some job which I've involved with. Well to answer your call, I going to post some misunfornate victim which I encounter. Nobody could tell it better than someone who is doing it for the sake of money right?

In return, please inform other forum thread so that nobody will get fooled by these so called "head hunter".

I will post a topic in this section.

Anyone knw abt dsm distribution sdn bhd?

why? is it a fraudulant company?

well, it definately sounds like one...there is this ad in jobstreet for management trainee post. also in the food and beverages industry.talks abt expansion plans.free transport. hmm actually they ask me for an interview so im just doubtful. i cant even find their website!! hmm any one knws any thing abt this company? and whether it is a scam?

This post has been edited by Novellous: Mar 17 2006, 05:56 PM

Vacancy! Vacancy? Vancancy!?

First of all i would like to apologize to those who is going to be mad because of what I am posting here. Well this is not job advertizing, rather it just some reminder so you won't be dissappointed of being cheated.

As I have promised to you guys earlier, I will tell you guys about some scam which I myself involved with. The only thing I will not tell you guys is my name, the company name, companies director and associates. For those people who are already being cheated by this company, gives this topic a reply and also tell others about this company.

Lets start with a little background of this company. The company name is **solution S.B, i told you i won't tell you guys it's name. It Director is En. Z, it's financial advisor is Pn. F and some "Datuk" also involved in this scam by the name of Datuk K (not the one which with Siti nurhaliza maa). These are the important person in this company, the others are non significant but also involve.

Companies business? Doing outsourcing for another outsourcing company...??? So you guys can get a clear picture by imagine this; An outsource company is hired by some big company to do a job which requires a lot of human resources. Some of the job scope, well mostly is involved with customer relation management, servicing contractor and also to find potential customer which the big companies find itself limited of doing it themselves. Actually the goverment has set up laws that protect an employee. Most of you do know about this right? So the point of the big company outsource to another company is to reduce overhead budget so to speak. They don't have to pay EPF, SOCSO, bonus and many other thing. So if 1 big company outsource it to a ****tech S.B and this ****tech S.B then outsource it again to **solution S.B, think how many that you will get?

An outsource companies still want to cover themselves with something like consultant company (please guys, don't buy it)

But in the end, it is where you put a stand in your belief. Because this company will do anything to get you, makes you believe in them.. Actually its not an employee that they want. How would you like to pay for a job that they can't even guaranteed that they will give it to you? Quite frankly, it's your money they're after, to jump start their own company. How do they do it? They will say all of the things you want to hear, basic salary in contract term and a job guaranteed after 3 month contract, insurance, training with LAN credit, Uniform, phone top-up and even phone. How pretty is that? The catch? Before some rattle caused by previous batch of people they hired before, to get the job you need to pay RM1500 for training they held for executive. At least RM750 must be cleared for you to start working(???). Well now they lower the rate so that it wouldn't be "burden" to you. But the RM1500 remain intact, only they varies the method of payment (they even make the installment plan and also loan from institution in the name of training certificate) according to their "taylor made" job depending on which payment you pay. (Money...money....moooneeey) They even make you sign a contract so that they can "slaughter" you in any case things go wrong. If you ever see how they run their mouth and how they make promise to make you sign the contract is amazing. If you can see that is, try to provoke them by waving some money in from of them and say "I have the money but do you have?" Their employee gains their wages through you, mind me. It's true!! it's true!! Nah maybe that way too much, but you can always open your mouth and ask them if you didn't sign the contract and pay the money can they give you the job? See what excuses they will give to you. if that didn't get thru, try ask them something which may raise the big question "why do we need to pay for the job that we can't choose and on top of that its just a plain sales promoter?". Remember that this job is an outsource job, suppose you should have some of the dough too, but if all you get is just a sliver of it then you better forget it.


Blu****ppo, that what you will promoting to the customer. The big company
which I mention is **net. Before, there were a bunch of people who got trapped in this scam, you see they are not going to brag about how people response to this program by saying there is a hundred people working now, there WAS a hundred people, but now there is nobody left. \
Some of the thing that I have encounter before regarding the contract:

1. Some of us which are the "early bird" has a few question were left unanswered regarding the contract term. it seem that the company didn't want to return the money paid to them although the contract hasn't been signed by the candidate brought by us.

2. Not to mention for candidate which has signed the contract. According to the term of the contract, Refund will be given based on the training they attended. Some of the candidate felt being cheated soon after they been told that they will be doing sales job rather than office job they promised and also there weren't any basic salary as promised. They want they money back considered the training hasn't started (some of them even borrow from someone and want to pay them back). You know what reason they give to the candidates? "some of the policy can be changed, even the government change their policy"

Now they're changing some of the term of the contract and want the candidate to see it's clearly stated in the contract. So what are they? The sales and marketing type of job is clearly stated in in the contract, so that nobody would complaint. Other significant change is No refund of money. Zero. Of course they stating about 3 month contract, salary (??), and insurance and all that stuff.

Some information about me in that particular company:

Actually I can tell you about my experience and why I am doing this. I am a recruiter and my job scope is to bring in possible candidate to sign-up for the program. Its not easy but I can get along with it, considering that the company didn't give anything (no basic salary) and didn't even give a damn how we do it. For the first month we recruiter are like struggling to bring in candidate and sign them up. Some of the recruiter a facing a delusional hope syndrome (haha) that is at end of month they gonna go for shopping spree. What they didn't know that this company is going to get a free work-donkey (not related to workhorse, and sorry for the made-up slang). So there we are, doing work for free. I manage to get thru with some other recruiter in the 1st month. But the real challenge was when the company (fellow director) just shoot the bullet to the candidate which attending the class (they told that not all of them would get the job after three month). Nearly half of the candidate was furious and demand the refund, because they want to quit. About 30 candidates were left from 68 people. the second month, most of the recruiters are already gain a steady flow of people coming in. the remaining 1st batch continued their program (because if their don't, their afraid of what written in the contract paper, that they will fined up to RM3000). By that time combined with newly registered candidates, a near 100 people were in the program. They hope to get a decent job "by paying hard earned money" once the training complete. Also in that 2nd month, I had brought in my relative which I felt that since they're not working, might as well bring them in. So I told my relative about how good this job would and I even guarantee it. So my relative attend the briefing felt a little uninterested but when I consult them, them agree to pay that day. I told them to read the term before signing up the contract, and guess what? There are too many uncertainties in the term, which they decide not to sign the contract and they want to withdraw their money. And that is reason why am I writing this article and why I am against that company policies.

Sorry for bad phrases and grammar error if it caused you guys hard to understand what I am saying here. If it related to this matter or you are one of those guys that we've cheated (hey we're just follow what our company told us), or have something to be mad about, drop or post something here okay?

anyone knw abt the company I mentioned above? im in need for an answer

I belived this just came out in Harian Metro yesterday

Malaysia Boleh

I went to a 'company' at Wisma MCA which I dont know they really registered. I got an interview and I am confirmed to work at the end of the interview.
"Tomorrow will be your first day training! Wear something casual."

The root of thumb is easy. You need job. You need compensation(salary) equaly to what you work for the month. Why you need to pay them the employer instead of they pay them?

Another one I went back then 2 years ago at Wisma UDA beside BB plaza. My dream place to work at. Right at the heart of Golden Triangle. Take bus/LRT can reach there. But it's all shattered. Again a scam. Job title posted in The Star was IT Executive. Tried to ask the job scope and they said I need to attend the interview. As usual went there and they gave me a file which full of newspaper ads. They asked me to choose which ads I saw

I simply point 1 of it. Since already knew it was a scam, I want to see how far they go. Guess what, I waited there for 45 minutes before I can see the interviewer.

I thought only in sport you can see substitution. Interviewer substitute for another one and the second one hired me.

They told me the company background
"We are a 1 billion paid up capital company and just opened their business in Malaysia." Imagine a 1b company hired some lousy English speaker.

My best question to shut them down was

"Where are the computer and server room?" and the reply was "We already order the computer and server room. The supplier will send it tomorrow.

Since when we can order server room from a computer supplier/dealer.

This post has been edited by bioweapon83: Mar 19 2006, 03:18 PM

Is a SCAM,...they used to hire fresh graduate as their cheap labour and brainwash them to do direct sales in outlets like office,restaurant!

This post has been edited by b3rnard7: Mar 20 2006, 06:38 PM

mind 2 know wat company is this? looks familiar

does anyone heard of CNI before? is it a SCAM? is it really MLM or ...?

i know this company. dont go for it. they will ask u goto sell disney brand biscut or muffins along the corridor of shophouses. unless u want this kind of job or better don go for it. the company last time situated at plaza pekeliling.

This post has been edited by merzchan: Mar 20 2006, 08:32 PM

i know i know!! it's called dreamwork acquisition (not sure about the spelling tho)... it's under the cobra group also... they wanted to hire mgmt trainee but in fact u gotta sell credit cards (for std c...) on the street... same thing as door to door thingy... they also sell broadband svc as well (for te..kom...).... huiyo... no basic no anything... u got commission u get paid.... blekkkkkk... beware!!

DS-MAX, I've been through one of this company in JB, called RGV S.B, marketing under the name Viable Crest S.B

Just beware, unless you really want to do direct selling. The boss earned so called 14k a month, but still have to pool car with his staff that drives a Proton :/

Elegant Promanade....

Still remember it back in April 2004. I went there 2 times for interview. Very easy interview. Then I was sent by one of the employee to uptown. A bit weird but then okla I follow. Luckily in the taxi car I receive a call from Securities Commision saying that i got interview there. Then just quit lor....haha call them up saying I don't want the job.

What attract people is the salary that they said they want to give, and they put in the advert American based Company. Really s**t

This post has been edited by sz_79: Apr 19 2006, 02:32 PM

Elegant Promanade....

I fell to the same company before, it is in PJ, also roomfull of people(~20), not suprised that some of us might be waited same room for interview before lol. People who tried to find job in KL really easy to got picked by this company. The day i go interview also got a lady talk talk to me about what are they going to teach us, mentioned in the previous post(logistic, inventory control, interpersonal skill... blah, but this one she got mentioned IT).

And then the next day i spent whole day following a "leader" and jual kek door to door. The leader said he is a engineering graduates but he dont want to find job, he said normal job cant garentee the success he can get from here.

The next day again? I called them i quit. Another bad experience of job hunting.

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Another case is i got this interview in KLCC, wah, KLCC officer wor got high standard, i was thinking. I was applying for a data entry job, piekchiek liao you know, graduated for more then half year couldn't find job(i am IT degree).

Got bout 5 people there waiting for interview, seem like all IT students(for a data entry job, how sad). My turn to interview, the interview guy said the data entry job is already filled but have another challenging position for me. And then he lecture me about why he prefer fresh graduates, becoz they can accept new things easier. Basically i know what is he want me to do at that point, but since i am so free that time. Well...

Then i followed a "leader", she go to UiTM and sell privilage cards. We hv been dodging security guards and looking for professors and lecturers to sell cards. And i get to visit the legendary UiTM too! Really big and beautiful campus

The end of the day, i said i not interested to her job. Whao, the lady leader really explode man, she scolded me wasting her precious time, blah blah blah... but the point is when i was in UiTM i keep quiet following her is that i worried i wont have a transport fetching me home. And i am interested to pay UiTM a visit as well

This post has been edited by rexis: Apr 25 2006, 12:25 PM

i applied for job in jobstreet.the wierd thing this guy called me at my house phone middle of the nite! saying that he is interested in conducting interview with me.i said ok when is the best time.he said since he is working in ad company very busy so after working hours...i said fine then where is ur office...then he said its better to meet at summit for coffee and interview...not so tense and all the bullshit.later he emailed to me with the wrong heading name.it was to another gal....later ignore his calls and called jobstreet to complain.they said they got nothing to do with it....told them to implement or advice the company to have interview doing working hours...if they kena anything give bad name to them...sigh

This post has been edited by kimmie: Apr 26 2006, 11:17 AM

Is it really that hard 2 get a job (especially IT jobs) out there? really feel for u guys. My gf also kena this b4 3 years back. Anyhow, if u guys really so free, work @ McD or KFC la...at least get $$$ for yr work instead of paying for work