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Any shop for sale???

sofo units are expected to launch at about 750 to 800 psf.

yup heard was 760 per sq foot onwards. Mad price, but location pretty ok... used to live around there

It has an Empire concept. Under commercial title?

yes would be similar under commercial. Although mentioned 80% loan you can get 85% under Maybank quite easily

Why only 80% loan?

if entry price circa 350k...........think can masuk...........

smallest unit at 500sf.
expected pricing around rm700psf.
circa rm350k wor boss. so you intend to sapu how many bijik?

Maybe 3 units per person la. Humble a bit la.

tai sifu manyak kaya.......

This one must wait greenlight from phoenix boss.........this area is his forte............

I hope there is residential suites..

if after discount 350k should be ok to sapu, i think.

smaller units psf should be high. I see RM400k up in terms of pricing.
great area though, concept of the mall should be similar to Bangsar Shopping Center.

Excuse my ignorance on SOHO/SOFO . Assuming one invests to purchase 1 unit say for RM400K, and later decides to flip for RM500 K. Could someone enlighten me/others on who would purchase a SOHO/SOFO, let alone one which costs RM500K for lets say 600sf? Who would want to rent one? Maybe teachers from outstation, architects or designers, single people? I know there are quite a few soho's here and there but unsure of the market perception. Anyone care to comment, thanks

no idea, expats in my company is still mont kiara. mid to big size units.

Good one! i would love to hear from experts here too.

I really dont see this as a trend. I see this as developer exploiting the lack of clarifications and guidelines from the authorities and
numerous loopholes while taking advantage of the hot market. (facilities, carparks, plot ratios, disbursement schedules, construction duration,
commercial/retail guidelines, management and security is not clear also)

there will be genuine interest in these development but to me most will be used for residentials / storage place / office.
why not build service apts (this is bs also, msian service apts), or condos, or offices. why so many SOxx ??? just to squeeze xtra drops of profits of coz.

I think they r opened for online registration now.

http://www.atria.com.my/

yup yup...agreed...better built affordable condos/svc apts and support bijan agenda...affordable home for all...

Lullaby: you could be right but you never really know anyway as we are not the developers. i suppose the genuine interest here is the investors/speculators. The real interest here i really dont know. Dont tell me its called SOHO/FO & the majority of the units are bought for stay?

Nevertheless, im interested for 1 reason only: location

It's been quite some time since I went to Wisma Atria after moving away fm SS2 7-8 years ago until now. How's the situations at that area right now? Last time the place like a bit dead to me, quiet and not many businesses around the premises.

You are right, I'm just saying that these kind of things can be exploited by the developer, not saying that not that all of them did.

Genuine interest here I refer to freelancers / mlm / small biz ppl who genuinely wanna utilize the flexibilities of such set-up.

To me those buying for own stay, maybe the reasons are they dont have much choice in terms of size and location , or simply its
investment cum home stay.

But largely I am thinking that investors / flippers will form the majority of buyers.

Given a choice, I wont go for SOHO, unless there's genuine USP and I cant get a similar product in the vicinity.

Just made a random call. Launching expected to be mid of next month.

According to sales person, roughly 90% of units will be bought for live-in like a studio Lets see if they offer 2 carparks per unit hehe

big taikor .. if this is RM350k .. and Arcoris is RM383k .. which would you go for ..

Norman Foster wor .. plus MK ... !

Really? That's really good news! Can't wait for the launching.

But MK u have banyak competition

As for this one it's a matured township so to speak

If we are talking strictly about the DJ area, I would buy more DSLH around DJ, as the DSLH stands to gain the most from the spillover effects from the SOFO and retai maill. DSLH in DJ is going for approx 520 psf, and has a margin of safety vs. other landed neighbourhoods. Plus, now this SOFO with 750 psf comes along, which presents another margin of safety to the DJ DSLH.

I'll stick with boring and un-exciting areas.

and if i have spare bullets, i'd consider one unit of the SOFO, as the nominal price of 350K doesn't really have much downside risk.

words of wisdom from PJ Property King....kekeke

Guess that the price won't be cheaper compared to Glomac Residence which is about 750psf.

atria area is quiet and cramp area and if the sofo is completed will be more congested. for investment or rental is not a good idea/return whereby the area is not expatriate area and if the price of the sofo is high, the rental will not fetch high not able to cover the loan + maintenance cost due to to the high price bought.

one thing bad about condo is the recurring maintenance,sinking fees monthly. in the long run will not benefit the owner unless the rental is high.

Rent or no rent have to pay the maintenance monthly, indirectly renting a room

nowadays condo where got cheap when purchase new one. rental is low and very competitive. have not included the renovation and furniture & fitting cost yet, another hidden cost.

another problem is the shopping mall, if the management cannot get hyper market like tesco, jusco, carefour / any cinema etc to come in, will be another flop shoppoing mall like ss2 mall, or tropicana city mall.

Parking is another problem at atria area. very limited and congested

This post has been edited by lowyat888: Oct 16 2011, 02:59 PM

Boss de tripicana city mall is quite happening le. Hav u been there boh? SS2 mall is dead la. But dun compare like tis. Last time b4 atria is closed, giant super over there was doin quite well but many other tenants not doin well. Doesn't mean a hyper or super ll guarantee good return. Look at summit with giant, or banting Tesco which closed. Dun c a guarantee of anything like all tis solid example.

This post has been edited by ManutdGiggs: Oct 16 2011, 05:41 PM

Yup, agreed. TC mall is not quiet at all ...

offices in TC is pretty dead.

why dead? they got taikor Dijaya Hq there.. ok wert...

probably too many shopping mall around. the feng shui also not that good in atria. small plot of land and congested.

that area is not expatriate area, and for sure it wont fetch high rental. investment is totally out. nobody/local people would rent for any expensive rental.

giant hyper market is the worst among carrefour or jusco or tecso. tropicana mall is happening bcos of carrefour and the cinema there. people only go there for that, other than that is out. only dijaya offices people go there for dining during lunch/dinner nearby. one word expensive dinning in tropicana, cant afford to daily dine there always. that will be another bottleneck

Doesnt matter its really dead or not. Try figure out how much u need to pay TC for the Advert display at the building frontage facing LDP.

people are now worried about inflation raising as years to come. majority people earning power is low. to live a decent life with married family and children/ education/condo/cars etc will have a rough road ahead.

developers nowadays keep sms/advertising due to alot of units not sold. everyday receive sms asking to go to their show room and buy their units. very HADAP to sell their units. very annoying. eg mah sing icon city etc

OSK PROPERTIES wont be cheap for sure. Buying RM400-600k for a small size condo + other hidden cost furnitures/fitting etc and renting below 2k with fully furnish, its not a good investment around less than 4% or even 3 % return. Put in the $$ in the bank will be much better.

Nowadays alot of condo were not rented out and even bigger units is very difficult to rent out. asking for lower price. in KL golden triangle area renting below 2k only fully furnish. what to expect in not prime area.

This post has been edited by mlpk: Oct 17 2011, 12:20 PM

I heart FM 988 office also there

atria should not build shopping complex there. even hyper mart giant was there previously, the building nobody wants to rent upstairs. not to say new shopping complex with of course high rental. RENTAL WILL KILL THE BUSINESS.

PUBLIC LISTED GAMUDA HQ OFFICE ALSO DONT WANT TO RENT. RATHER RENT A FEW SHOPS THERE.

The shops besides the SOFO , will be able to see across each other, the shops and SOFO. NO PRIVACY. Traffic around there congested during working hours.

OLD SHOPS BESIDES MAKES THE SOFO AND FENG SHUI THERE NOT GOOD. CONGESTED WITH NARROW ROADS IN AND OUT OF SOFO. SECURITY WISE NOT GOOD

This post has been edited by lowyat888: Oct 19 2011, 02:41 PM

ok, can any one give some comparision of this Atria sofo, eve suite and boulevard residence? which one worth to buy?

finding parking at DJ is nightmare......double park also hardly get during peak hour....

Nearby D. UPtown is even worst but that place is so "wong"..

DJ access is no where as good as DU Uptown.

For commercials - u need more entry and exit points. Uptown is exposed from all 4 corners.

Frankly, think the developer is pushing its luck with 750 to 800 psf, indicative pricing.

The ironic thing is - there will b people that BBB.

Phoeni, mau check with you since u r the taikor there.

i noticed there isnt much comparison of "SOxes" (yes i just made that up... ). any idea what is the nearest similar development?? the nearest i can pull out from my head are Empire Damansara in Damansara Perdana and Cova Square in Kota Damansara.

taikor merce.....well, I'm not really familiar with "SOxes".....I don't own any, chief!

But if u ask my 2 cents....wouldn't the nearest prop class to Atria be Trop Suites at SS2? (granted, sudah completed) Am rusty....berapa lui is a tropics studio? 700 psf?

If yes....I'd rather take my chances on a tropics studio, or parang a 1,100 tropics units vs. the RM 750 psf pricing at this Atria thingy. Tropics anytime more "wong"....plus critical mass & access is there....I underestimated it earlier.....But, this is just my view....I tend to go for places which are "older, completed and not as sex-citing".....

What are your thoughts bro? You think KD and DP have some hidden opportunities?

This post has been edited by Phoeni_142: Nov 3 2011, 09:59 PM

if, somehow the old shoplots surrounding Atria mall can be facelifted and improve on the access, it will be quite nice. The location is very strategic.

just that traffic condition will be worsen with such high density (high rise residential) there.

i small kuli only not taikor lah, chief.

nearest prop class is Trop Suites but those are condo (residential units). price per sqf aint cheap, with 625sqf unit asking for RM420k-500k range suggesting its hovering around 700psf. but i have to agree that tropics seems to be more appealing compare to atria.

i think KD has plenty of opportunities still and now with MRT project coming in, its going to be another deep-fried-keropok served with golden sushi roll waiting to be purchased.

tarak comments on DP, not very familiar with the area even thought it is just next to KD. i kuli punya petrol allowance not enough to travel everywhere. haha!!

No news on launching date yet ..

this seems like a good deal. Quite strategic location in D.Jaya.

I think Uptown also got SOHO, will it be a better bet since pricing are so close?

I think Uptown will be priced at 850 to 900 psf, no?

if 750 psf - then yes, think Uptown would be a better bet.

In the Paper Write Up, SHC mentioned indicative price $750psf, not sure will increase or not. Expected launch Q1 2012

very expensive lor...

white elephant

some said SOFO can not live inside, if yes, i think SOHO is better.

What's the difference?

you can live in SOHO but not Suite office. Not sure SOFO classified as suite office?
Suite office no coking, no overnite, no shower etc

Today open sale to staff & VIP.
min price 730psf, top-most unit 950psf.
90% of 256 unit is 544sq.ft.
no car park.
maintenance fee - 0.35 sen/sqft

I left OSK KL 5.30pm just now. almost 65% of the units are sold.
Units facing KL - sold out.
Units facing kelana jaya, left about 50%.
Units facing each other left about 60%

Tomorrow will also open sale to staff & VIP, my guest is when they launch on this Friday 18th Nov, will only left not more than 40 units.

For those who like this property, must go to PJ sales office Friday early morning.

OSK property always has it value & marketing strategy. Its worth buying for investment.

still BBB mode??

did they mentioned if one can live in the unit?

afraid it will be the same as Sunrise's summer suite which is only for office uses.

I've registered at the website previously but didnt receive any invite yet ...

Just to share, originally I was quite "emotional" and wanted to whack this atria sovo thing. I live nearby, and am fairly familiar with the area.

A ttt kor friend allocated a 488 sq ft unit for me. But given the pricing, and low margin of safety, I had to pass. Even with 5% down and DIBS, felt that d opportunity cost is fairly high.

no car park is unless, where to park yr cars? expensive

is the utilities bill (electric/water etc) on commercial rates for sofo?

This post has been edited by lowyat888: Nov 14 2011, 11:06 PM

This is consider cheaper as compared to KU suites...LOL

They do allocate carpark for tenant, just need to pay rental. Rate..no sure.

this is commercial properrty, sure the utilities bill base on commercial rate.

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Added on November 15, 2011, 11:48 amsomething u just need to go with ur feeling.
look around that area, there's no more land for development.
if u like it, just take it.

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Added on November 15, 2011, 11:54 amopen for staff/banker only.

u can try ur luck.... go to OSK jalan ampang, 8th floor.



This post has been edited by kcliew2005: Nov 15 2011, 11:54 AM

Official launch


This post has been edited by dlyw1103: Nov 15 2011, 12:58 PM

just wondering/ worried that the new offices/shopping building will it be a glut/white elephant in the future whereby, if no anchor hypermarket/cinema/pub etc to boost it. eg will be like ss2 mall.
before that giant hypermart was not doing well and no want would rent the upstair floor. business there were like half dead waiting for miracle to comeby even with cheap rental.

but the new shopping rental wont be cheap, best of luck

another thing is the parking space very lack of parking space and cramp.

i thing osk launch the sofo with the wrong concept which dont include parking space and alot of hidden cost addin to it.

no doubt its not an expariate area whereby buying it for investment. investment is totally out.

for reseller, will any crazy/desperate to fork/burden themselves to buy a small space place for an expensive price. % is very low

for own staying, not enough car park for people who have lots of car, car park problem. even have have to pay for it (hidden cost)

Think people is very rich nowadays. is these a golden triangle/expariate/local area?

shops nearby also not doing well, and very jam near the area due to the divertion of lanes/road here n there.

is this low payment or a lot of discounts given?
what is the difference this and those jaya 3 or jaya1 service condos?

this project was initially under my watchlist but had to pass due to its expensive pricing in term of psf and go elsewhere

i think it selling price comparative to uptown SHC service apartment

Gonna rebuild Atria from ground up.
Investment - depends.

SOFO = new term. Developer wants to exploit the grey area.
Can you live in your office units? Yes / No = Grey area.
If other office occupant complains, then again subject to management.
Thus always bear in mind, these units aren't meant to sleep in.

Commercial Land = 15% + of utilities bill

This investment is worth the shot!

The fact that they dont provide car park is enough to deter me from buying (I stay in DJ). Parking is already a nightmare over there and even if can guarantee rental car park, its going to be a mess to look for car park if say come home from work early as other offices are still occupying their car park spaces.

The only viable option for rental yields is for those KDU students, but at 350k rental yield cannot cover cost.

400sf? Treat it like a hotel only? How to cook so small space.

eat dirty nellys, tim sum or ta pau..
i thought 544 sq feet.

I'm staying near by...

if no car park given....u gona be crazy..unless u hang out late and back home after 8.30pm

but again, gona see how much the parking rental/selling

Just got an sms, launching tomorrow, but don't think left any good unit looking at the post here...

like plaza damas. rent lo..

Taiko/tailo..... I m new here and just wan to get myself involved a bit in property world... hope its a right time looking at softening trend of property market at the moment.. I am currently staying at DP, the very first block of Perdana Condo. Massive Dev over there... wondering how many ppl going to occupy tat area....

Now back to atria.. Bro snapback, from your point of view, if you stay nearby there do you think will get a unit there for your kids maybe? Do you think tats the current sentiment there? Or it's just full of investors and speculators?

Thanks....

property market nw full of investors and speculators

We shall see if it is still BBB....or will price still will increase 30 - 40% in sort term
from 700psf to 1000psf in 1-2 years time????

Let's just say I know the area well for certain reasons.

anyway, the issue is not about me liking or not liking it. Yes, u r right - sometimes, it's about trusting your "gut".

for me - the main issue is about the fact that I'm not comfortable with the numbers, and I think the upside is limited. Plus d opportunity costs is on the high side.

itu saja.

Who is there now? Sold out?
Is this fully furnished like empire?

all sold out

so hot demand property for sohos

now we shall wait for the 40% cap appreciation or average $2500 rental yield

Sofo stands for small office flexi office so does that means it's combination of office + residential or both??

wah!!!..really still BBB mode.. malaysian r unbelievable!

That depend on the SPA but soho yes

good people still have alot of $$. buy and wait to fatt

BBB mode incredible...

so now 100.01% sold out?

super goreng time

From the picture
they will bring in Cinema?
If that is true, we have : MBO@Citta Mall & GSC@paradigm + existing cinemas that located at One U, The Curve, Tropicana City Mall, Sunway, Summit, Subang Parade ... etc

Wow~

Got photo of price list?

Went this afternoon ard 1.30pm.... left 6 units, cheapest is ard rm355k, lower floor. RM5k deposit not refundable.....

seems like property market still Hot hot hot....

is that the 544sq feet one

ya.... only there for 10minits.... agent also lazy to entertain... almost sold out that time.

So fast sold out?!

why didnt u get one?

This post has been edited by lowyat888: Nov 18 2011, 11:38 PM