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 [REVIEW] Sony MH1 – The Best Kept Secret by ClieOS, LiveSound™ hi-fi headset/Smart headset

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post Jul 5 2011, 12:48 AM, updated 10y ago

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http://www.head-fi.org/t/632892/review-son...est-kept-secret
http://www.inearmatters.net/2012/10/review...ept-secret.html

Right when MH1 ‘LiveSound’ was first announced over a year ago by Sony Ericsson (*now ‘Sony Mobile’, after Ericsson sold its share of the company to Sony early this year), I wasn’t really paying much attention to it – Why wouldn’t I, or any audiophiles in that matter? After all, it is just a “headset” by the company’s smartphone division in Eupore, not from the famed headphone team in their Japan HQ. The bias kicked in and soon I have forgotten all about it. Fast forward to a couple of months ago, I was offered a chance to review the recently released Sony Bluetooth headset for Android, the MW1 ‘Smart Wireless Headset pro’, and find myself very impressed by the sound quality of - not only the BT unit itself, but also the IEM it bundled with. It turns out to be the shorten version of MH1 adapted for the BT headset. I immediately know it is an IEM that deserved to be reviewed as a standalone product before I can review the MW1. It will help to complete the story of MW1, and really give credit to the EU team that developed the excellent sounding headset.


Sony Ericsson MH1 in bulk packaging from DX.

Spec
Driver: Closed 5.8mm dynamic transducer
Nominal Impedance: 15Ω
Frequency response: 1Hz-20kHz
Max input power: 67mW
Bass sensitivity: 125dB/V @ 40Hz
Mids sensitivity: 115dB/V @ 1kHz
For Android smartphone:
Music controls: play,pause, next/previous track
Volume control: up/down



Accessories and Build Quality
Normally I’ll start by talking about the packaging in this section of the review, but since I didn’t receive the full retail packaging, I thought we will skip that part. Accessories wise, you will get a shirt clip and 4 pairs of silicone single flange eartips (S, 2xM, L).

The IEM comes with 4mm wide flat cable in asymmetrical length (J-cord), and the Y-splitter is made in such way that cable must be looped behind the neck. While the cable itself is indeed durable and tangle-free as advertised, it is also a bit cumbersome and microphonics – good thing that the shirt clip helps to manage the issue to an acceptable level, but they are not completely gone. It would have been much better if it uses the smaller and oval flat cable found on Sony’s own XBA series of IEM. The cable is basically the only real complaint I have against the MH1, otherwise I would have been absolutely happy with it.



The included eartips are an improved version of Sony’s own Hybrid style silicone eartips that first appeared on EX700 and still used on the latest XBA series. The bore is just a tiny bit wider which results in lesser hinder on sound transmission while the flange has been extended for a more secured fit. Like the original Hybrid, these should have been sold separately as accessories as well, but unfortunately they are not.

Just 3 inches (or 75mm) underneath the left earpiece is the remote and mic. It has volume control as well as play/pause button (or to receive and hang up call) that should work with most of the current Android smartphone and tablet (*see next section for more detail). There is also an extra ‘smart’ button for assigning extra function, but unfortunately it only works with Sony own Xperia series of smartphone.


MH1 LiveSound (top) and MH1C Smart Headset (bottom)

Variation and Confusion
Bear with me here in this section as it is quite important if you are interested in getting a MH1. Let’s begin by explaining two standards used in making the 3.5mm TRRS plug on headset – OMTP and CTIA (both are organizations for mobile standards). For OMTP, the TRRS plug is wired as [Left-Right-Mic-Ground] (from tip-to-sleeve); for CTIA, the TRRS is wired as [Left-Right-Ground-Mic]. Since OMTP was initially endorsed by Ericsson (and Nokia, which still uses the OMTP standard), all of their cellphone, including those under the Sony Ericsson branding, uses this standard. It also got adopted by a few other cellphone manufacturers as standard before mid 2011, such as LG, Motorola, Sony and Samsung. In mid 2010, the OMTP organization transitioned itself into another organization (the WAC, if you are interest to know), and the OMTP standard for headset was subsequently being phased out by most manufacturers within the following year (* it takes time to sell off old models) in favor of the CTIA standard. Part of the big reason for adapting the CTIA standard might be due to the fact that it is the standard used by Apple on their iDevice, which represent a big share of the headset market. Standardization demands from political groups (i.e. the EU) also played a role to push for one headset standard that will work on both Android and iOS, as well as most dumbphones (except for Nokia, which doesn’t like to play with other for now).

Now that we have learned about the two standards, let talks more specifically in MH1. When MH1 was first announced, it was named ‘LiveSound’ under the Sony Ericsson brand and complied with the old OMTP standard. But when Sony bought out Ericssion’s share of the company and began to introduce their own Sony Xperia brand of Android smarphone, they start to adapt the CTIA standard on all their headsets. The new MH1 (*referred as MH1C, ’C’ is short for ‘CTIA’ presumably) is then renamed as ‘Smart Headset’ to differentiate itself from the old ‘LiveSound’ version. It was supposed to be a fairly easy and clean transition, but unfortunately it isn’t. Some of the new MH1© with CTIA wiring is still being sold on various part of the world under the ‘LiveSound’ moniker while other parts of the world already use the new ‘Smart Headset’ moniker. One thing for sure, if you see a MH1 with an old Sony Ericsson logo on the side, it is the OMTP version and not compatible to the newer Android smartphone. If it only has Sony logo stamped on the side, and being referred as ‘smart headset’ or with model name MH1C, then likely it is the new CTIA version. However, the only sure-fire way is to check with the seller for compatibility. In the event that you have acquired the wrong version for your cellphone, don’t despair – an inexpensive TRRS smart adapter will allow OTMP headset to work on a CTIA cellphone (and vice versa). This is by far one of the smallest I have found, and has pretty good build quality: Here.


MH1 and MH1C is close to identical on the outside.

Last few notes on this topic: (1) CTIA plug is compatible to almost all typical 3.5mm TRS socket, meaning you should be able to use the headset as typical IEM on any mp3 player (i.e. iPod, Cowon, Sansa Clip, etc). OMTP plug on the other is not compatible to most 3.5mm TRS socket and only sound normal with the TRRS smart adapter mentioned before or when you pressed the call button on the remote. (2) Given Apple iDevice also use the CTIA standard, you can use the MH1C on any iDevices as well, but the volume control and smart button won’t work. Only the call button is functional.

Just for fun, I ordered a pair of MH1C from DealExtreme and see if it is legitimate or not (*I also have the real MH1C sample directly from Sony). It turns out to be the real deal and it is the newer CTIA version as well. From the lack of packaging however, I’ll say they were probably taken from a full retail Xperia smartphone package (*some of the higher end Xperia smartphone come with MH1 as stock) and sold as a standalone product. Still, given I only paid less than $30 for a pair (retail is around $80), I’ll say it is well worth it. However, do note that even though I have received a real MH1C, it doesn’t mean you will too. Similarly, you can find a lot of ‘bulk’ deal of MH1 / MH1C on eBay, which may or may not be the real stuff. So buy it at your own risk.

Sound Quality
The IEM was given over 50 hours of burn-in before the review. At first, the bass can be a bit boomy while the presentation is more upfront than it should. In time, bass will settle down and the sense of space will improve. I do recommend a minimum 50 hours of burn-in (100 hours if you can) with MH1, but it is not mandatory. The IEM will sound good out-of-the-box - burn-in just tightens up the overall presentation and resolution.

The overall sound signature of MH1 is warm and sweet, while well balanced in all frequencies. Bass extends down to 10Hz and hits with really good quantity and quality. Not the fastest or biggest impact around, but nothing to be ashamed of even among bass monster. Mid is sweet and right in the butter zone to give the right balance of intimacy and texture while still maintains a good sense of layer and space. Treble extends up to the very top, but it is more about smoothness than it is brightness. While analytical listeners might not find the sparkle or crispiness to be enough for their taste, it still however compliments the mid and bass impeccably and doesn’t feel lacking in anyway. Soundstage is rather good. By no mean the best of the best or endlessly large, it does portrait width and depth in a very 3D, well layered and resolving manner within its own confine.

What I have noticed as I listened to MH1 during the course of evaluation is that this is an IEM that truly has bare minimum weakness in overall tuning. In fact, it excels in almost any genre I can throw at it – Pop, Alternative Rock, Vocal, Folk, Country, and even Classical – just name it. Granted it might not be the best at every genre, I will say it has some of the most consistent performance across the board… Okay, may be Electronic can use a bit more sparkles, but that’s about it - and it is not to say Electronic isn’t enjoyable on MH1 at all.


MH1 LiveSound (left) and MH1C Smart Headset (right)

Verdict
As I have mentioned before, the only complain I have with MH1 is its cable. I just wish that it was less awkward, which would have made the IEM a smashing success. Beyond that, it is a fully capable IEM that can actually compete easily with IEM that cost 3 times its original price, right at the edge of top-tier category. Even Sony’s own XBA-4 is not that far ahead of MH1. If you are like me, please put aside your bias against headset and give this a try. If you can get a real MH1 with those $30 bulk deals, it would be an absolute steal – much like the craze over ADDIEM (Apple dual driver IEM) a few years ago, except this is much better sounding and an even bigger bang for the bucks. I’ll wholeheartedly recommend it with a Sonic Diamond [4.95 / 5].

*A big thanks to Sony Mobile for the MH1C sample.

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post Jul 5 2011, 01:35 AM

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Freq response, 1Hz-20kHz?
OMG! laugh.gif

And 2 sensitivity ratings, one for each driver....haven't seen specs written this way. And pretty high I might add.

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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jul 4 2011, 11:35 PM)
Freq response, 1Hz-20kHz?
OMG!  laugh.gif

And 2 sensitivity ratings, one for each driver....haven't seen specs written this way. And pretty high I might add.
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2 sensitivity ratings, Macam hybrid kah? micro-dynamic + micro BA haha smile.gif I ask SE this on their FB page hope they can provide good awnser.


Added on July 5, 2011, 1:47 amAppple IEM 5Hz to 21kHz 23Ω, while Live Sound 1Hz-20kHz 15Ω. The more cover range the better phone rite? Low 1hz it is bass? 21kHz high kah?



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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Jul 5 2011, 01:44 AM)
2 sensitivity ratings, Macam hybrid kah? micro-dynamic + micro BA haha smile.gif I ask SE this on their FB page hope they can provide good awnser.


Added on July 5, 2011, 1:47 amAppple IEM 5Hz to 21kHz 23Ω, while Live Sound 1Hz-20kHz 15Ω. The more cover range the better phone rite? Low 1hz it is bass? 21kHz high kah?
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The UM Merlin custom has 4 BA and 1 dynamic but I don't see 5 different sensitivity ratings.

1Hz is bass, but that is ridiculous. An average human can hear only down to about 20Hz, and for special some probably lower. 21kHz is quite high. We can't hear it, but can sure annoy a dog or a cat. The wider the IEM can cover generally the better. However, it's not as simple as that.

The sound of a violin for example, is actually a very chaotic mash of different frequencies, producing one distinctive sound. So is everything in the world like the human voice, foot steps, door knocks, dog barks, flowing water, the click of a mouse, the tap of the keyboard, the hush of a wind, everything. Imagine a single IEM driver trying to produce the sound of one violin, and then add to that a singer, and then a few cellos, and then a piano, and a double bass, and then a clarinet, add some drums and a saxophone as well. See how complex it can be?
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QUOTE(tunertoobe @ Jul 5 2011, 03:09 AM)
The UM Merlin custom has 4 BA and 1 dynamic but I don't see 5 different sensitivity ratings.

1Hz is bass, but that is ridiculous. An average human can hear only down to about 20Hz, and for special some probably lower. 21kHz is quite high. We can't hear it, but can sure annoy a dog or a cat. The wider the IEM can cover generally the better. However, it's not as simple as that.

The sound of a violin for example, is actually a very chaotic mash of different frequencies, producing one distinctive sound. So is everything in the world like the human voice, foot steps, door knocks, dog barks, flowing water, the click of a mouse, the tap of the keyboard, the hush of a wind, everything. Imagine a single IEM driver trying to produce the sound of one violin, and then add to that a singer, and then a few cellos, and then a piano, and a double bass, and then a clarinet, add some drums and a saxophone as well. See how complex it can be?
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we cant hear below 20Hz or above 20kHz..
but that doesnt mean we wont hear the difference on how frequency below 20Hz and above 20kHz affects what we hear.
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jul 5 2011, 10:43 AM)
we cant hear below 20Hz or above 20kHz..
but that doesnt mean we wont hear the difference on how frequency below 20Hz and above 20kHz affects what we hear.
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Meh, I doubt that few milimeters driver were able to move at such low frequency. This is more marketing.
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QUOTE(DaEMoNteNTAcLe @ Jul 5 2011, 10:43 AM)
we cant hear below 20Hz or above 20kHz..
but that doesnt mean we wont hear the difference on how frequency below 20Hz and above 20kHz affects what we hear.
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Yeah sure, I am not disagreeing that fact. Though being a good IEM isn't about having the best of the extremes. Liek I said before, even if it can do 1Hz to 40kHz, It won't be a good one if female vocals sound like males and pianos sound like they have pillows stuffed in them.

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design macam ortofon eq7 hybrid with jays cable.

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QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 5 2011, 11:53 AM)
Meh, I doubt that few milimeters driver were able to move at such low frequency. This is more marketing.
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laugh.gif He wasn't talking about the drivers anyway.
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Lol crazy specs... would it be better than our Triple driver IEM? Which has MUCH INFERIOR specification.
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+1 for the spec

Wondering if BB can use it hmm.gif
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Well, technically, the spec about the sensitivity is correct. However, that is only applicable in the real-world when the 2 drivers are to become two separate IEMs. When those two drivers work together in a single housing, exiting the same sound tube, the real value would be a single number.

Having two numbers like that makes the specs seem more spectacular than they really are.
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QUOTE(calmshot @ Jul 5 2011, 04:03 PM)
design macam ortofon eq7 hybrid with jays cable.
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cannot agree less. the spec damn imba, dual BA perhaps? coz got 2 seperate sens
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QUOTE(walabies @ Jul 5 2011, 07:05 PM)
Lol crazy specs... would it be better than our Triple driver IEM? Which has MUCH INFERIOR specification.
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Shure SE535 triple driver Frequency Range 18Hz – 19kHz, LiveSound F-response 1Hz-20kHz


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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Jul 7 2011, 04:37 PM)
Shure SE535 triple driver Frequency Range 18Hz – 19kHz, LiveSound F-response 1Hz-20kHz
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possibly 1-20kHz at -10db..
with only something like 400 to 10kHz at 0db..
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Check this up man smile.gif http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry44966265.


Added on August 28, 2011, 1:14 amI doubt the SQ cause so many allocation to the right management eg: SE LiveKey™ and the normal answer call button.

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What so special with the jays cable look alike? My Nokia N900 earphone bought earlier 2010 already use flat cable...
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Supposedly they are less prone to tangling and they are easier to untangle if they do.
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