Hi all.

FYI: I was told http://www.miea.com.my/ this can help me. Any success case can share with me?

would like to seek help from you guys...
I was lured into a trap by a real estate agency into purchasing a Bumi lot.
The 1st time when I go n view the house, the first thing i asked is whether it is a Bumi lot
the agent confirm me it is not....
And then after all deal, I have paid 3% deposit to him. When I was giving him the cheque, the owner part is not signed yet.
When he give me the confirmation letter after the owner sign I saw he is a malay.

When I feel it is some kind fishy, I asked him again whether it is a Bumi lot, he again vy confirm and sure that it is not.
I feel not safe and I go and google the unit. End up I saw the unit is auction before at 2009, and it is a BUMI LOT!!

And then suddenly his lawyer called and I asked the lawyer to confirm it and finally it is confirmed.
I called up the agent and try to cancel the deal with him and get back my deposit as it will be issue in transferring the title for the unit.

What the agent do is:
1) try to convinced me to buy the unit ( where he has the way to change the title )
2) told me that he dunno it is a Bumi lot ( which is at 1st he VERY SURE it is not )

And now he still refuse to pay back my deposit.
If I know it is a BUMI LOT i won't proceed with the purchasing.

Anyone face the same cases before or anyone got any good suggestion what to do?

My lesson is " Do not fully trust your agent" and try to do lot of research yourself. Even no help given, I hope this give some tips to other property buyer.

This post has been edited by dingdong985: Mar 5 2011, 11:51 PM

Terrible! Which real estate agency?

Sorry to hear that bro. I'm in the mid of looking houses too, mind share more information about the agent?

how many years is the house?

Sorry... not convenient to mention it...scare they will sue me
but i can tell the unit is at vista komanwel
for those who like to purchase a unit there, be careful, as there are a lot bumi lot there.
The other agents which i tried to seek help from, directly asked me to check it is a bumi lot or not when she heard it is vista komanwel
I was so silly and end up at at condition where my RM8400 is stuck inside now and pending for refund.
haih
Give money buy headache!!!!!!

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Added on March 5, 2011, 11:55 pmmore than 10...since 1998... strata title out already

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Added on March 5, 2011, 11:57 pmSorry....cant share...but i think when u go view house better is
1) know whether owner is malay or not
2) when u sign confirmation letter, make sure the owner sign already, else u no need to give the deposit to the agent 1st ( advice from other agent )
3) if it is a malay owner and he claim it is not a bumi lot, try to check with known lawyer or called up the developer to find out it yourself.

1 lesson 3k, total 9k

This post has been edited by dingdong985: Mar 5 2011, 11:57 PM

errmm....then when the agent promise to refund to u?>

These real estate agent are cheat and liars.

These are what you should do from first to third action.

1. you go to the real estate company and try to talk to their manager, sometimes the manager is more reasonable than the agent.

If doesn't work, then

2. go to Michael chong, MCA, Jln Ampang and threaten to expose the real estate company in newspaper if they don't return the deposit.

Trust me, sometimes will work becos real estate company don't want their name to be blacklist.

If still doesn't work , then

3. Go to small claims tribunal in the Mall near Jln Putra.

Small claims tribunal is where the court will summon them to court and make them pay back the deposit.



Finally, DON'T sign the S&P.

Bukit jalil is freehold with consent, ie. land office will take 2 to 3 months to approve. They won't approve a bumi to non bumi sale unless there is special reason.

This post has been edited by jalsrix: Mar 6 2011, 12:06 AM

he still refuse to refund to me. He asked me contact his company for refund if i wan!!!

ya... I will go make police report, complain at http://www.miea.com.my,
and now got 1 more way is to complain at MCA...thanks jalsrix for this info

He keep on say at first he dont know it is not a Bumi lot. How come he is an agent but he dont know it is bumi lot or not, and when he dont know how come he said he confirm not?
Either he really wan to cheat me or his mistake for not checking it out at 1st place, and either of the faults, he should refund me

what does the confirmation letter say? any mention of deposit refundable?

there's still hope tho: i was told that bumi lot actually can transfer to non-bumi (case to case basis depending on the particular unit) but it will take longer to transact.

make a police report to scare the agent abit first

Ya...i got my lawyer checked too and he gave me the similar answer.
But he keep on saying his lawyer able to do. But this is not my concern, the main concern is he is cheating me at 1st place. Even it is possible to transfer the title, his trustworthy is totally gone. if possible i would like to let you guys know who is this, so no one will be his next victim.
but it is not possible to explore his name here
so guys.....need be careful

How can the real estate agent not know whether he is a bumi because all owners must sign a letter and meet the agent before agree to let them sell their house. I sold my house before and signed the letter before asking the agent to sell my house.

Go back to my previous post and reread bcos i modified the post. There are 3 steps to do.

I suggest you post the real estate agent name here so we can identify him.

Last time an agent brought me to see a bum lot as well... I reached first and look around the neighbourhood all r bumi.. then I ask them they told me that whole raw r bumi lot .. I remember the first thing I asked that agent if it is bumi lot and he told me not.. when agent came I query him... he said he dont know it is bumi lot too..

Yeah its written will be refund if title cant transfer. But if not mistaken to fully know whether it can be transfer or not,
1) i need to pay another 7% deposit
2) need to apply loan
3) need to sign S & P
4) need to wait for 1 or more years for the result ( even though he promise 3-6 months)

I will make police report if he still unable to give me a confiramtion date of the refund on monday.

His lawyer is NOT honest !

I went to land office before and asked about the consent, the officer told me it is not possible.

I asked my lawyer , he said that after 3 months, the land office will reject, then we can appeal again, it will take another 3 months,

the second time, may or may not reject, so we lost 6 months and another 3 months to process transfer of name, if you are lucky 9 months only can get transfer of name.

It unlucky, then have to wait more than one year.

Better not take the risk ...

Just call the real estate agent tell him you going to make police report. its work. alot faster than asking the lawyer to solve it.

Sorry, I was unable to put his name here as he might sue me for defaming him.
Ya....he is really sucks....impossible he is not sure what he is selling.....
if yes, then he is a failed agent

once you sign S&P, you'll lose the lawyer fees even if the transfer is not successful bcos lawyer already done the work. Lawyer fees can come up to rm 5K.

Don't SIGN S&P !

Follow the three steps I posted just now.

This post has been edited by jalsrix: Mar 6 2011, 12:17 AM

ya...i wont take the risk...summore he is the one trapped me at 1st place. haih
its really unlucky.

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Added on March 6, 2011, 12:18 amThanks a lot for the MCA details. i thk police and MCA will be great help.

This post has been edited by dingdong985: Mar 6 2011, 12:18 AM

try Pakatan also la

anyone from pakatan i can contact with?
I'm sure both will be very willing to help me as election is coming soon

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Added on March 6, 2011, 12:26 amvery sad....
for 1st time buyer or without guide, this thread is a very good tips..
hope it helps

This post has been edited by dingdong985: Mar 6 2011, 12:26 AM