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TSsoulknight
post Jan 19 2011, 05:39 PM, updated 15y ago

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guy's what do u think bout this??
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1- Setelah meneliti dokumen PTPTN dalam sistem Ujrah, saya mempunyai beberapa perspektif seperti yang akan dibentangkan.

2- Perubahan sistem 3% kepada 1% yang dinamakan sistem Ujrahsebenarnya mempunyai helah tertentu yang harus diketahuï sebelum diisi.

3- Baki yang dikira bukan baki semasa, tetapi adalah baki pada tahun tertentu, dalam kes ini Jun 2008.

4- Perjanjian yang adil sebenarnya hendaklah menggunakan jumlah asal pinjaman seperti yang terdapat dalam perjanjian asal.

5- Menggunakan baki pada tarikh yang berlainan sebenarnya menimbulkan keraguan, contohnya apabila peminjam telah meminjam pada tahun Jun 2000 hingga Mei 2003 (selama 3 tahun).

6- Dalam kes ini, peminjam telah dikenakan kos sebanyak 3% dari tahun 2003 hingga 2008.

7- Justeru, jika pinjaman asal bernilai RM 24000, dengan dicampur dengan kos di atas (3 % x 5 tahun) akan bernilai RM 24000 + RM 3600.

8- Dengan anggapan peminjam belum lagi membayar sebarang jumlah sehingga tarikh tersebut, jumlah yang dinilai dalam perjanjian ini sebenarnya bernilai RM 27600.

9- Melaluï sistem Ujrah, peminjam akan dikenakan 1% daripada jumlah (RM 27600) ini bernilai RM 276, selama 126 bulan iaitu 10.5 tahun.

10- Justeru, peminjam akan dikenakan tambahan sebanyak RM 276 x 10.5 iaitu RM 2898.

11- Maka jumlah sebenar yang dikehendaki dibayar oleh peminjam adalah RM 27600 + RM 2898 iaitu RM 30498.

12- Maka peminjam akan membayar RM 30498 setelah meminjam sebanyak RM 24000.

13- Ini melibatkan pertambahan jumlah sebanyak RM 6498 daripada jumlah asal pinjaman, atau 27.075% daripada jumlah asal.

14- Sebenarnya, setelah dikira, sistem ini adalah satu helah bagi PTPTN mendapatkan kembali bayaran balik dengan cara potongan gaji.

15- Setelah menandatangani perjanjian sistem Ujrah ini, peminjam akan membayar secara potongan gaji tanpa boleh mengelak daripada membayar pinjaman ini.

16- Ini bermakna, keuntungan adalah kepada PTPTN, yang mengambil 27.075% daripada pinjaman asal, DAN pembayaran on-time melaluï potongan gaji.

17- Saya melihat ini sebenarnya adalah helah untuk memaksa peminjam membayar melaluï potongan gaji, dan bukan sebagai satu “ihsan” untuk mengurangkan beban peminjam.

18- Saya melihat ini adalah helah bagi memastikan peminjam yang selama ini hanya membayar RM 50 sebulan, yang entah bila akan habis membayar pinjamannya, akan membayar RM 200+ sebulan mulaï tarikh sistem Ujrah diluluskan.

19- Lebih menguntungkan pihak PTPTN, ia akan berlaku secaraclean atas topeng Syari`ah.

SAUS


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post Jan 19 2011, 05:42 PM

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post Jan 19 2011, 05:43 PM

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post Jan 19 2011, 05:44 PM

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post Jan 19 2011, 05:47 PM

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actually, no matter what they do, the thing is.....
dah pinjam reti2 la bayar balik...
a lot of people argue a bout this and that..
in fact they tak start bayar pun....
so what should gomen do...????
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post Jan 19 2011, 05:50 PM

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yep... it seems that way. got my Ujrah offer letter and when i ran thru the T&C it's just not so viable so i just chuck it into the dustbin and continue with my existing arrangement.
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post Jan 19 2011, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(breaker84 @ Jan 19 2011, 05:47 PM)
actually, no matter what they do, the thing is.....
dah pinjam reti2 la bayar balik...
a lot of people argue a bout this and that..
in fact they tak start bayar pun....
so what should gomen do...????
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Dah lah tak bayar
Ranting high interest
now turun 3% ->1%
still ranting 1% tak halal

One question
Mau bayar ke atau tak mau bayar

Masa apply jerit-jerit tak terima $$$ ikut masa
Time suruh bayar....jerit-jerit lagi riba tak halal


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post Jan 19 2011, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(Ichibanichi @ Jan 19 2011, 05:52 PM)
Dah lah tak bayar
Ranting high interest
now turun 3% ->1%
still ranting 1% tak halal

One question
Mau bayar ke atau tak mau bayar

Masa apply jerit-jerit tak terima $$$ ikut masa
Time suruh bayar....jerit-jerit lagi riba tak halal
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post Jan 19 2011, 05:56 PM

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i am one of peminjam...
but paham2 la, lu dah pinjam bayar jer la....

i follow this ptptn issues lately...
they even borrow from kwsp once (if not mistaken) just to lend those student...
at the end these student so hard to pay...
tak ke gampang tu...

remember suring my studies back then....
got one time, they rise up issues duit masuk lambat....
padahal lambat 2 minggu jer.....
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QUOTE(breaker84 @ Jan 19 2011, 05:56 PM)
i am one of peminjam...
but paham2 la, lu dah pinjam bayar jer la....

i follow this ptptn issues lately...
they even borrow from kwsp once (if not mistaken) just to lend those student...
at the end these student so hard to pay...
tak ke gampang tu...

remember suring my studies back then....
got one time, they rise up issues duit masuk lambat....
padahal lambat 2 minggu jer.....
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:00 PM

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Bullshit. More reluctance excuses by defaulters not to pay. You pay what you owe.
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:01 PM

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post Jan 19 2011, 06:03 PM

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if you can use the money to get a better job , paying the interest wont be a problem .

who gonna lend you 24k without interest ? doh.gif
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:03 PM

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wtf??

I got bayar on time and recently changed to the 1%

but if its this helah they definitely cheat me... vmad.gif

its definitely not fair to the ppl who pay.. idiot PTPTN>.. if this the way im not gonna bayar anymore
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:06 PM

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Nasib I don't accept new ujrah system. sorry ptptn. you won't get my money whistling.gif
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:06 PM

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Based on apa yg ditulis dlm forum len.
tuk ujrah nih dia kira last baki loan + total 3% interest before ujrah.
so nih la yg jd isu nye. dlm ujrah nih dia kira skali ngan part 3% tuh.
cam someone verify this..
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Jan 19 2011, 06:00 PM)
Bullshit. More reluctance excuses by defaulters not to pay. You pay what you owe.
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you willing to pay extra, maybe around RM 4K after settling half of your loan? whistling.gif
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post Jan 19 2011, 06:09 PM

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post Jan 19 2011, 06:09 PM

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wafak.. ni yang liat nak bayar ni yang grad below 3.0.. thats why they end up getting shitting jobs with low pay... tu lah..time dapat duit joli nak mampus.. bila suruh bayar liat..

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