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Streamyx Streamyx Capping International Connections v2, TM confirms cap will remain

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TSReuben
post Dec 2 2010, 09:16 PM, updated 15y ago

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IMPENDING DOOM

From Aizuddin Danian's post who has been acting as a 'go-between' of sorts between TM's official reps and Lowyat users:

Izlyn Ramli VP of Corporate Communications:

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The capping will not be rollbacked or removed, only "relaxed".

They will continue to watch the performance of the network in the coming week and make further tweaks.


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Apparently, they tell me that got people who wrote to that address (impact@tm.com.my) to say that things are OK.

/facepalm

They say that this proof that the service is better now.

gg lah like that.


Technically the CEO didn't lie:

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We will find a way out immediately, today we are looking at some parameters that will allow the equilibrium of usage. If it’s still a challenge in the next 1-2 days, I’m going to pull that out first and then we will relook, get feedback from our users and see how we can do this better.


"IF it's still a challenge..." being the key phrase. I am totally perplexed as to how can they have come to this conclusion which basically ruined all the goodwill generated from the previous announcement.

People who know about the impact address are most likely people who are upset that they are capped, I can't imagine a huge amount of people e-mailing them to tell them that their speeds are fantastic.

I personally have NOT received a response from TM from impact and it seems TM shouldn't even bother having a corporate communications department if this is the way they put out fires.

Dato Zam also responds via BFM Radio 1 December 2010

Also posted with a more details report on my blog.



Dato Zam Interview with BFM

Part on capping is at 37:41 into the interview.

Some excerpts:

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Fair Usage means that all our paying customers means they should be treated fairly. Heavy users tend to hog the network at the expense of the non-heavy users. The challenge is how we can implement this best we can and so that it is truly fair for the customer.


On how he is going to resolve the capping issue:

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We will find a way out immediately, today we are looking at some parameters that will allow the equilibrium of usage. If it’s still a challenge in the next 1-2 days, I’m going to pull that out first and then we will relook, get feedback from our users and see how we can do this better.


Updated with TM's Official Response on the International Capping.

If you are still experiencing problems you should send your speedtest results to impact@tm.com.my on the 1 December 2010 onwards (e-mail is at the time of writing not up yet).

Best way is to enclose speedtest.net reports from SG and Cyberjaya and compare them with the other MY servers and TM's own speedometer.

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Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™ wishes to clarify on our Fair Usage Policy (FUP) and address several comments in the blogosphere on allegations of a  ‘hard cap’ for international bandwidth being enforced by TM.

Firstly, we apologise for the inconvenience that our customers are currently facing on our internet services.

We would like to assure all our customers that it is not, in any way TM’s intention to enforce any ‘hard caps’ on our customers.

As a matter of principle, however, TM needs to abide by a FUP to ensure that the network caters to all customers in a fair manner, and this has been in place for a few years for Streamyx which is a contended, best effort service. This means the Streamyx network is catered to be shared by everybody at any point in time to ensure everybody gets a “fair share” of the bandwidth. Currently UniFi is not affected, as it is a new premium service.

The Streamyx “Fair Usage Policy” is available on our website (http://www.streamyx.com/customer_care/customer_care.php?id=customer_care_fair_usage_policy) and it basically describes the list of specific heavy usage activities (like P2P and gaming) that will be managed during peak periods.

As you all know, this kind of bandwidth management or FUP is a global and common telco and celco industry practice. It is already in place in Malaysia amongst the mobile broadband players and aimed at making sure our broadband service is fast and reliable whenever in use.  It is designed to benefit all users, especially normal or non-heavy users during peak periods, so that all can enjoy higher and fair browsing and surfing speed.

In general, TM’s FUP and implementation is aimed at providing an optimum internet experience to all Streamyx customers by rationalising the internet speed during peak periods (3pm – 1am).

Of late, our traffic profiles are changing quite rapidly, and we are noticing that network congestion can hit different parts of the country at different times of the day or week. When congestion hits, depending on the usage patterns, customers subscribing to the same package but generating different traffic patterns may experience different levels of service performance.

In an effort to ensure a fair distribution of resources amongst all customers at all times, whenever congestion occurs, TM’s network is able to calculate how many users are active at any given time and allocate dynamically the resources across all customers with active sessions.

In rare cases of heavy congestion, we ensure that no customers may get below a minimum threshold of international bandwidth, but there is no ‘ceiling’ to the bandwidth each customer can get.

The problems some customer are experiencing now may have stemmed post a successful pilot of a new traffic management model we ran a few months before, following which we went nationwide about 3 weeks ago. Clearly there is room for improvement and we are working hard to resolve this.

As dynamic allocation of bandwidth requires some specific settings that need to be fine tuned area by area, we elicit and welcome feedback on the experience in different parts of the country at different times of the day. We have set up a special email account where you can send your readings for our review: impact@tm.com.my effective 1 December 2010.


From our analysis, the current traffic patterns are, for most part, in line with our expectations on traffic management, and the speeds being delivered should suffice for a smooth internet experience.

Where the internet experience falls short, we will further investigate both individual cases and the service in its entirety to address specific concerns that they may be facing, and will respond to these customers directly.

Rest assured, TM takes note of all customer feedback to continuously ensure improved customer experience end-to-end.

From a market communications perspective, the FUP awareness campaign is already ongoing and we will further clarify as to the rules we are implementing – and why.

In fact, a bloggers briefing has already been scheduled for 17 December post our engagement with LYN and Kambingz earlier. About 40-50 selected bloggers will be invited to represent the wider blogger community to keep them abreast with our efforts to improve service delivery and customer experience overall, and to seek constructive feedback on these efforts. We hope to address, or at least start to address many concerns at this forum.

We thank you for your continuous feedback and ask for your kind understanding and patience as we work to deliver on our commitment to service quality and overall customer experience.

TELEKOM MALAYSIA BHD


Updated with New Info on How to Complain 28 November 2010!

PROBLEM

TM appears to becapping INTERNATIONAL traffic on certain Streamyx accounts. This has happened for perhaps the past 2 weeks or so.
This is regardless of

a) usage of the user (both low usage and high usage users are affected)
b) type of traffic (HTTP/HTTPS/FTP/P2P are all affected) as long as they are international

I initially posted this on my blog.

SYMPTOMS

1. The caps appear to be hard caps. There is NO fluctuation in speed, it just appears as if it's maxed out at 50 kB/sec. Some 4 mbit users report being capped at 200 kB/sec and I have a 512 customer being capped at about 25 kB/sec and saw some 1 mbit customers having the same thing. It does look like an intentional cap as they are in common multiples.

2. No appearance of packet loss though at times there may be high latencies.

3. Speedtests to local servers except Cyberjaya are fine but speedtest to Singapore/Cyberjaya/any other outside server shows the hard cap speed.

4. This appears to be indiscriminate as it applies to ALL types of international transfers be it http/P2P/FTP.

5. Cap appears to come on a schedule where people are capped in the afternoon then uncapped in the evenings or vice versa. Schedule appears to be different for different people.

HOW YOU CAN HELP/RESOLVE YOUR ISSUE

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The problems some customer are experiencing now may have stemmed post a successful pilot of a new traffic management model we ran a few months before, following which we went nationwide about 3 weeks ago. Clearly there is room for improvement and we are working hard to resolve this.

As dynamic allocation of bandwidth requires some specific settings that need to be fine tuned area by area, we elicit and welcome feedback on the experience in different parts of the country at different times of the day. We have set up a special email account where you can send your readings for our review: impact@tm.com.my effective 1 December 2010.


What this means is, if you feel you're experiencing international cap symptoms, you should send your speedtest results to impact@tm.com.my (effective 1 December 2010).

Best way is to enclose speedtest.net reports from SG and Cyberjaya and compare them with the other MY servers and TM's own speedometer.

The info below is deprecated:

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LYN REPORTS:

Many LYN Reports also appear to show the same thing:

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MrComot
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myandylai
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MX510
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MY CUSTOMER'S TEST RESULTS
I'll let my customer's report detail it:
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This post has been edited by Reuben: Dec 3 2010, 04:47 PM
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post Dec 2 2010, 09:19 PM

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Pls add constructive input for TM


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post Dec 2 2010, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(boysrule @ Dec 2 2010, 09:44 PM)
you guys should check with TM and file a report if they dont give u a resolution. could it be your router, pc with p2p running on the background or pc infected with virus? check your task manager on the networking tab and see if theres any activity during idle. if all above does not apply then it might be problem with the phone line. just my experience, no other isp performance is better than TM in malaysia.
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TSReuben
post Dec 2 2010, 09:21 PM

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Has anyone noticed that their cap also now applies to LOCAL connections?

My TM Speedometer is returning 500 kbps now...

http://speedtest.streamyx.com.my
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post Dec 2 2010, 09:22 PM

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I can't even load speedometer now sweat.gif

Edit : loaded with awesome message "YOU ARE NOT STREAMYX AND BUSINESS BROADBAND USERS ! PLEASE WAIT 442 SECONDS . THANK YOU."
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what ever.....speedtest.net is my homepage now...i lazy paste the result as long as it remain same (SLOW!).
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QUOTE(MX510 @ Dec 2 2010, 09:19 PM)
Pls add constructive input for TM
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Yay V2, hi mom i'm on the first page, amidoinitright?

If next week still cap we will group buttsek Tentris
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post Dec 2 2010, 09:24 PM

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Capped Areas, reported by LYN users.


2125 pm, 2/12/2010

1. Taman Desa, KL
2. USJ, Subang Jaya, Selangor
3. SS3, Kelana Jaya, Selangor
4. Taman Seri Gombak, Batu Caves, Selangor
5. Klang
6. Bdr Baru Bangi, Selangor
7. Bdr Sunway, Selangor
8. Wangsa Maju
9. Shah Alam
10. Old Klang Road
11. Puchong Kinrara, SEL
12. Seri Kembangan-Serdang-Serdang Perdana
13. Simpang Pulai, Ipoh
14. Cheras Perdana, Selangor
15. Cheras Utama, KL
16. KL Sentral
17. Setia Alam, Selangor
18. Kuching, Sarawak
19. SME2, Cyberjaya
20.Petaling jaya section 2
21.Petaling jaya section 14
22. Mutiara Damansara, Petaling Jaya
23. Taman Tun Dr Ismail, KL
24. Sibu, Sarawak
25. Miri, Sarawak
26. Kepong, KL
27. Kuala Selangor, Selangor
28. Tropicana, PJ
29. Damansara Jaya, Selangor
30. Kajang, Selangor
31. Kampung Pandan, KL
32. Batu Pahat, Johore
33. Bandar Tun Razak, Pahang
34. Rompin, Pahang
35. Bayan Lepas, Pulau Pinang
36. Pinggiran Putra, Selangor
37. Equine Park, Selangor
38. Puchong Jaya, SEL
39. Limbang, Sarawak
40. Bdr Mahkota, Cheras
41. Taman Gembira, Old Klang Road, KL
42. Taman Sunway, Batu Caves, Selangor
43. Subang Jaya. *which part of SJ?
44. Kuala Kangsar, Perak
45. Semenyih, Selangor
46. Segamat, Johore.
47. Kuchai Lama, KL
48. Komtar, Georgetown, Penang
49. Taman Connaught, Cheras, KL
50. Alam Damai, KL
51. Damansara Damai, SEL
52. Kota Damansara, Seksyen 6, SEL
53. Taman Istimewa, Pandan, Johore
54. Ayer Keroh, Malacca
55. Kota Kinabalu, Sabah
56. Seksyen 27, Shah Alam, SEL
57. Taman Minang, Cheras, KL
58. Taman Pelangi Rawang, SEL
59. Sentul, KL
60. Taman Kepong, Kepong, KL
61. Taman Samudra, Batu Caves, SEL
62. Sec 17, PJ, SEL
63. Kota Samarahan, Sarawak
64. SS1, Kampung Tunku, SEL
65. Saujana Puchong, SEL
66. Nilai, Negeri Sembilan
67. Parit Raja, Batu Pahat, Johore
68. Taman Sri Keramat Au2, SEL
69. Ipoh, Perak
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post Dec 2 2010, 09:24 PM

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The Capping Algorithm doesn't seem sophisticated

Everybody gets capped biggrin.gif
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This is sad. Freaking Sad. Why are they so inefficient. After being the slowest and yet most expensive BB around the world, they are still striving to be worst. Its 15 MBPS in SG for like what? 60 SDG?

WHEN WILL MALAYSIA IMPROVE. MY BELOVED COUNTRY.
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Well it would help if someone could verify whether their local connections were being capped. now that would be a clear breach of contract lol
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post Dec 2 2010, 09:26 PM

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bravo tm..u beat me...upload speed faster than download speed
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QUOTE(SynexEvent @ Dec 2 2010, 09:25 PM)
This is sad. Freaking Sad. Why are they so inefficient. After being the slowest and yet most expensive BB around the world, they are still striving to be worst. Its 15 MBPS in SG for like what? 60 SDG?

WHEN WILL MALAYSIA IMPROVE. MY BELOVED COUNTRY.
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Added on December 2, 2010, 9:27 pm
QUOTE(Reuben @ Dec 2 2010, 09:25 PM)
Well it would help if someone could verify whether their local connections were being capped. now that would be a clear breach of contract lol
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Mine is not capped, full speed all the way. But who cares yawn.gif

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WTF Dato Zam said ----> FAIR???? I PAY FOR UNLIMITED 1Mbps!!!
NOT UNLIMITED 0.30Mbps International capped!!
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post Dec 2 2010, 09:29 PM

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Hmm...thats weird..when i 1st test with tm speedometer..i got full speed, then i click restart speed my dl speed drop till 248
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QUOTE(Currylaksa @ Dec 2 2010, 09:24 PM)
The Capping Algorithm doesn't seem sophisticated

Everybody gets capped biggrin.gif
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post Dec 2 2010, 09:30 PM

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Their fair usage claim is nothing but a bunch of bullsh*t

They have never release any concrete evidence to show that our available bandwidth is used up to the max. All we have is their constant moaning about how we don't have enough bandwidth and bring up the fair usage card. That's all. No any evidence whatsoever.

And while they are moaning about it, they come up with even faster package like the unifi, want to be advance, fiber optic and what not. Its all good on paper, but in reality, we are being constantly raped by them.

They have being playing this fair usage card long before they came up with unifi. So the question is how can they come up with such a thing when they have yet to solve the bandwidth problem? If they already solve it, they wouldn't be b*tching about it all the time but they are.

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post Dec 2 2010, 09:33 PM

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Well i can still hit 1.2 Mb/s from bakabt which are very well seeded, so i don't think i'm capped :/

Currently i'm sitting steady at 340 kb/s for a public torrent.

My upload isn't thats for sure since i have a steady 9 Mb/s upload for seeding.

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I personally don;t really trust the TM speedometer, I think they have modify something on it which if you test it you will get higher speedtest than any other place (other speedest). This is why their Cs like to ask you to test with it and then they will say "sir your speed got no problem" if you say got problem, they will give you so many damn shit reason, your computer got virus la, firewall la, oversea server got problem la. Oversea server or international site got problem?! Man their up time and quality maintenance is far more advance and better than us! You (CS) still dare to throw the ball to them?! MALU!!! So the best is use http://download.tm.net.my

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my speed suddenly back to normal..
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