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post Sep 13 2010, 03:27 AM


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Which is better?

Btw, here's how to briefly fight like Jason Bourne:
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QUOTE(firedauz @ Sep 13 2010, 03:27 AM)
Which is better?

Btw, here's how to briefly fight like Jason Bourne:

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bourne use kali n jkd
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post Sep 13 2010, 04:07 AM


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judge urself

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thanks man.

looks like silat is indeed dangerous after all... never knew that..
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post Sep 13 2010, 04:50 AM


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why need silat when you have a gun? one headshot, one kill biggrin.gif
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inb4 silat guru killed bruce lee
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post Sep 13 2010, 05:23 AM


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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Sep 13 2010, 05:50 AM)
why need silat when you have a gun? one headshot, one kill biggrin.gif
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there will be time u need to to subdue/capture opponent instead of killing them these mayb these will provide important intel... so it is important for most polis, military personal to learn martial art...
not only dat... gun, sniper, rifle will be infective if the range is too close so u need close combat skill like martial art...

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why need silat when you have a gun? one headshot, one kill biggrin.gif
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Uh, maybe bcos it's not really legal to own a gun in some countries(or more reasonably not everyone can have one) and come one day you have to defend yourself with only your arms, what would you do?

These martial arts are particularly useful in close quarter combats. I'd go with krav maga

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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Sep 13 2010, 04:50 AM)
why need silat when you have a gun? one headshot, one kill biggrin.gif
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do you have gun now? doh.gif

martial arts are just techniques and practices.. how good it is, is up to the person.
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Sep 13 2010, 04:50 AM)
why need silat when you have a gun? one headshot, one kill biggrin.gif
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they can catch bullet pew pew pew biggrin.gif flex.gif
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Sep 13 2010, 04:50 AM)
why need silat when you have a gun? one headshot, one kill biggrin.gif
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u learn ilmu kebal bullets can go through u , is real magggg
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keysi fighting
You’ll see it in Chris Nolan’s Batman films. It was developed by Justo Dieguez and Andy Norman, based on Dieguez’s street fighting experiences in Spain. Batman’s method of fighting is understood from the comic books to require the utmost efficiency, because Batman is a genius at fighting crime, and will not waste time or effort in putting criminals away. Ten or twenty bad guys at a time routinely attack him, and Dieguez and Norman have developed the style to defend against this many people. It sounds impossible, but after 6 or 7 years of training in it, which is not too terribly long, anyone can perform all the necessary moves. You become a self-defense machine.
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Sep 13 2010, 04:50 AM)
why need silat when you have a gun? one headshot, one kill biggrin.gif
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Do you have a gun, genius? Even if you do, not everyone has a gun in their pocket all the time.
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post Sep 13 2010, 07:48 PM


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its okay, everyone has a gun in their pockets at all times.
besides, owning a gun is easy, learning martial arts is illegal.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 13 2010, 04:07 AM)
judge urself

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this is painful, kena once last time when learning silat...

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Pistols are the best haha. Honestly, a good pistol user can handle 99.9 percent of close range threats easily.

Both systems are very different as they're developed for different reasons.

Silat has always been like the rest of the martial arts, spiritual in nature and heavily steeped in the local style of battle. Sparring and practice are heavily based on ancient methods of fighting and a level of respect between fighters.

Krav is different. It is created solely to defeat opponents, you either aim to instantly incapacitate, disarm or kill. Most moves are dual use with emphasis on the face/eyes, neck and groin to inflict maximum pain on the enemy to defeat him. It is essentially very military.
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:57 PM


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Krav Maga + America Self Defense
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can cripple you and take your bone crushing attacks and feel nothing.
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its not like any of us has seen any comparable same level martial art masters fight in a duel.
its not like any of us even know about martial arts either.
its fun to see a bunch of people speculate things about this thing. so funny. like UFO experts talk about Reptiles.
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post Sep 13 2010, 11:59 PM


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silat so keng, why no silat student become world famos?

kungfu got bruce lee, jet lee, jackie

muay tai got ong bak, iron lady

krav maga got bourne

silat?
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this pawns all. nuff said
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silat until pusing2 here n there, shot then die...

silat2 n tok2 kok say ' 1 on 1 etc penakut n so on', shot then no tok.......
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QUOTE(penmarker @ Sep 13 2010, 11:59 PM)
its not like any of us has seen any comparable same level martial art masters fight in a duel.
its not like any of us even know about martial arts either.
its fun to see a bunch of people speculate things about this thing. so funny. like UFO experts talk about Reptiles.
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Sorry but I seen quite a lot of fights personally

All I can say in a fight

Martial arts = Tools

Numbers > Tools

Brainpower > Numbers > Tools

I see a damn hilarous fight where a muscular hunk kept bragging of his black taekwando belt get his ass beaten to a pulp by a skinny kid with no martial training (easy to tell). The kid damn smart keep using the wall and environment to his advantage, the dude keep hurting himself and having his face being slapped over and over again. Damn hilarous I tell you.
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Any person who learn martial art knows its not a vs b is better but its about the person who wield the art.
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Some of you guys might not know about some silat that doesn't have bunga (pusing2, dancing-like movement), but instead could break your arm or ribcage in an instant
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the brainpower behind Israel weapon manufacturer such as Elta & Elbit pawned all
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QUOTE(Sethmaster @ Sep 14 2010, 12:05 AM)
Sorry but I seen quite a lot of fights  personally

All I can say in a fight

Martial arts = Tools

Numbers > Tools

Brainpower > Numbers > Tools

I see a damn hilarous fight where a muscular hunk kept bragging of his black taekwando belt get his ass beaten to a pulp by a skinny kid with no martial training (easy to tell). The kid damn smart keep using the wall and environment to his advantage, the dude keep hurting himself and having his face being slapped over and over again. Damn hilarous I tell you.
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only happens in hollywood
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QUOTE(soundsyst64 @ Sep 13 2010, 04:50 AM)
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statement penuh kebodohan.
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QUOTE(defdekz @ Sep 14 2010, 12:05 AM)
silat until pusing2 here n there, shot then die...

silat2 n tok2 kok say ' 1 on 1 etc penakut n so on', shot then no tok.......
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satu lagi statement penuh kebodohan / kebebalan / kebongokkan / kebangangan / kesengalan.
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QUOTE(sibugi @ Sep 13 2010, 11:59 PM)
silat so keng, why no silat student become world famos?

kungfu got bruce lee, jet lee, jackie

muay tai got ong bak, iron lady

krav maga got bourne

silat?
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world famous no, they like to keep it low-profile.


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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Sep 14 2010, 01:00 PM)
satu lagi statement penuh kebodohan / kebebalan / kebongokkan / kebangangan / kesengalan.
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rilex bro..they can tok kok coz they never use gun....at max how many bullets can u carry with you?wait until the ammo already running out..then they will curse themselves for not having close-combat defence
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QUOTE(aBg_rOnGak @ Sep 14 2010, 12:49 PM)
Some of you guys might not know about some silat that doesn't have bunga (pusing2, dancing-like movement), but instead could break your arm or ribcage in an instant
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the bolded parts where the "Arts" in Martial Arts came from. Krav Maga is a Self-Defence technique not Martial Arts though Silat also have defenses moves , not entirely 'artsy' moves.

Guns, not if the Police got you first for illegal possession. Heck keeping a spent shell can even get you in jail here.
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world famous no, they like to keep it low-profile.


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you gus should lurk more in Discovery channel that 1 US SEAL officer is already silat master for more than 10years

he recently came to Malaysia to complete his blackbelt
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QUOTE(Evangelistica @ Sep 14 2010, 02:00 PM)
satu lagi statement penuh kebodohan / kebebalan / kebongokkan / kebangangan / kesengalan.
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ur silat with statement ----> shoot then no silat pusing2 and statement gone

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QUOTE(Sethmaster @ Sep 14 2010, 12:05 AM)
Sorry but I seen quite a lot of fights  personally

All I can say in a fight

Martial arts = Tools

Numbers > Tools

Brainpower > Numbers > Tools

I see a damn hilarous fight where a muscular hunk kept bragging of his black taekwando belt get his ass beaten to a pulp by a skinny kid with no martial training (easy to tell). The kid damn smart keep using the wall and environment to his advantage, the dude keep hurting himself and having his face being slapped over and over again. Damn hilarous I tell you.
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agreed...

there are some silat that will not show off to media... if everybody know about your silat, then nothing special about it...
thats why silat cekak hanafi didnt join the human weapon...

i personally hv (not to show off) 3 martial art.. taekwando 2nd dan, silat gayong, and silat cekak hanafi.. each martial art hv their good and bad.. but who only just talk, but they hv nothing are losers...

in silat hanafi real attack, there are just 2 possibilities, break or dead... but the main effort will be to make peace.. icon_rolleyes.gif

p/s: on the way to learn silat selendang merah
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QUOTE(defdekz @ Sep 14 2010, 01:13 PM)
ur silat with statement ----> shoot then no silat pusing2 and statement gone
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i think that u hv never been in battle... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(faareast @ Sep 14 2010, 01:29 PM)
p/s: on the way to learn silat selendang merah
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you gus should lurk more in Discovery channel that 1 US SEAL officer is already  silat master for more than 10years

he recently came to Malaysia to complete his blackbelt
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really? what silat? i think it is gayong...
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so pro woh..
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haha.. not really.. just wanna learn..
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really? what silat? i think it is gayong...
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yup its Gayong

its US Navy SEAL/Special force for sure since regular soldier wont do this kind of things..heck normal soldiers deployed at Iraq normally just finished high school---18-21 & they almost 100% rely on their technologies around them....1 thing for sure u cannot really on smart technology too much when coz u woulnt know when it will suddenly dead(eg..laptop dead coz of battery drain) or your weapon is jammed(its normal happen to M4 rifle in Afghanistan coz of dust particle)

ps-always have backup with ancient technology

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obviously you never went out of your school and house, 2".

How about trying to go to something we called "pub"? Or "club"?

There are more about life than your 2" delusions, kid.

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QUOTE(Sethmaster @ Sep 14 2010, 01:43 PM)
obviously you never went out of your school and house, 2".

How about trying to go to something we called "pub"? Or "club"?

There are more about life than your 2" delusions, kid.
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Israel is world's top producer for high-technology weapon equipment..we shuld learn from them
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silat suffian is better from brunei.youtube it.
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the best silat is silat mata..
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Silek Harimau adalah gerakan silat paling asli atau paling tertua/terlama dalam sejarah dunia Melayu!

semua jenis silat kat Malaysia ni tak kira la gayung ke lincah ke cekak ke mesti ada juga belajar asas yang berasal dari Silek Harimau.. lagi2 silat gayung mesti ada punya gerakan harimau.

antara warisan Silek Harimau yang diwarisi oleh Silat Gayung antaranya
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Silek Harimau ni dah mala sungguh ada dalam dunia melayu.. sebelum tertubuhnya kerajaan Melayu Melaka lagi, sebelum ada Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat lagi ni.

aku sendiri keturunan asal dari Minangkabau, suku Biduanda keturunan diraja Negeri Sembilan, suku biduanda jugalah yang jadi Agong pertama sejak tertubuhnya negara MALAYSIA.

dulu sebelum adanya Hang Tuah dan Hang Jebat, memang keturunan Minangkabau pikul tanggungjawab jaga kedaulatan empayar melayu masa tu, antara yang paling rapat dengan kesultanan melayu melaka yang berasal dari Palembang.. kami keturunan biduanda (salah satu suku asal Minangkabau) asal dari wilayah Jambi di Sumatera.. kerajaan Melayu pertama di dunia ni abad ke-3 lagi dah ada! di Jambi, Sumatera sebelum majapahit jawa tenggelamkan empayar tu dan dibuat di Melaka pula.

nenek aku selalu kata jaga2 dengan orang Bugis sebab diaorang amat bengis.. dulu lepas era Hang Tuah dan Hang Jebat, terkenal pula dengan seorang Panglima Hitam, asal dari Bugis (lagenda orang Melayu dalam persilatan).. sampai sekarang semua yang menghadap raja atau sultan kena pakai pakaian hitam... silat gayung, pengasas dia keturunan bugis.. kalau ikut asas silat melayu adalah gerakan harimau, tapi aku tengok gayung ada gerakan helang dan ada pengaruh tarian dewa2 hindu (mungkin sebab dulu masa Majapahit Jawa kuasai tanah Melayu, dibawanya sekali pengaruh hindu yang amat kuat pada jawa dulu tu dan pengaruh persilatan melayu), silat lincah pula tengok macam Kung Fu pun ada gerakan dia.. dulu dunia melayu memang kena pengaruh yang amat kuat dengan seni bela diri cina yang dikenali sebagai kuntau.. silat cekak terutamanya Hanafi pula kata gerakan dia ambil dari gerakan solat.. entah la, aku rasa semua ni modal nak tarik orang masuk belajar dan buat duit.. tapi aku bagitau persilatan Melayu yang asli dulu, tak ada pun diaorang p buat promosi dan kata benda2 untuk tarik modal.. dulu semua orang belajar ikhlas.

keturunan atas aku memang agak menghairankan ilmu diaorang, dulu pernah seorang mengamuk depan cina di negeri sembilan sebab nak tipu dia.. dia p ambil cuka getah pastu sapu kat muka dia (tapi tak jadi apa2 pun).. kat Batu Kikir, Negeri Sembilan dulu sebab cina juga p halau orang tua melayu dengan amat biadap dari kedai.. lepas tu suku biduanda kat negeri sembilan p tunjuk ilmu parang terbang betul2 depan cina yang cuba tunjuk kurang ajar di tanah melayu.. tergamam terus dia.

anyang aku, kira moyang aku belah atas-atas aku.. semua ada ilmu yang menghairankan, semua pernah jadi dukun besar di Negeri Sembilan dan Sumatera di wilayah Jambi tu.. macam moyang (perempuan) aku dulu, pernah dia nak mengubat orang, minyak kelapa muda tengah mendidih menggelegak tu selamba je dia kacau guna tangan dia.. adik-beradik dia pula ada seorang tu orang panggil dia bomoh patah.. kalau patah-patah, kemalangan teruk ke.. dia hanya sapu je tangan dia kat tempat patah tu terus je sembuh siap boleh lompat2 lagi.. hairan.

moyang aku (perempuan) dulu pernah selesaikan kes orang susah dapat jodoh, senang je dia kata mandi bunga.. lepas tu berduyun2 orang datang nak meminang sampai tak tahu nak pilih.. sakit kulit teruk dia kata ambil abu2 bekas orang masak (selalu orang kampung masak pakai dapur kayu atau masak kawah), letak dalam bekas campur air.. pastu tunggu sampai air tu betul2 jernih, buat mandi yang diatas jernih tu dan minum sedikit air tu.. kadang2 aku fikir macam mana sains dan budak atheis dalam internet nak terang benda2 yang dah berlaku ni aku sendiri pun rasa hairan.

selalunya dalam persilatan Melayu ada diuji benda2 ni
1. Mandi Minyak
2. Jalan terus atas bara api
3. Lompat Gelung Api/kereta
4. Lompat Kaca
5. Tetak badan dengan parang
6. Gantung diri
7. Gelek lengan atau badan dengan kenderaan
8. Hiris lengan dengan pisau
9. Tempur bebas dengan mata tertutup
10. Pemecahan batu sungai
11. Bakar anggota badan dengan api

kalau tak ada ujian-ujian ni entah la nak panggil apa.. dulu orang Jawa Majapahit takut betul dengan ilmu kebal persilatan Melayu, diaorang ada kepercayaan kononnya ilmu kebal akan kalah dengan buluh runcing.. entah la.. tapi kalau kena dengan ilmu keris terbang ke parang terbang ke memang tak lama dah nyawa dia kat dunia ni.. hari2 sebelum p perang dengan musuh, hari2 p asah, asap dan limaukan keris atau parang tu serta dibacakan ayat2 sumpahan kepada musuh tu.
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era majapahit ato era2 yg lain ditembak portugis dan dijajah, ada juga dijajah belanda yg punya meriam satu kali tembak berkeliaran badan yg kena setelah pusing situ pusing sini


Added on September 14, 2010, 7:55 pmkesultanan melayu melaka yg ada silat harimau boleh pusing situ dan sini, dijajah oleh bomb meriam dan senapang homemade portugis yang tidak tahu pusing situ dan sini.

org portugis melihat dan berkata 'mengapa mereka pusing situ pusing sini?',
kapten mereka membalas 'aku juga tidak tahu! mungkin mereka minta belas kasihan daripada kita!'
kata krew kapten itu "tapi mereka bawa kris mereka yg bengkok2 seperti hendak membunuh kita"
trus kata kapten "betul juga itu, kasi stop saja pusing2 mereka dengan meriam kita ini, pandai juga mereka menipu kita dengan pusing2 mereka itu"
krew " okay bos, gustan sikit bos, aku mau kasi on meriam ni"
*maka berhentilah pusing2 sana dan sini*

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QUOTE(defdekz @ Sep 14 2010, 07:49 PM)
era majapahit ato era2 yg lain ditembak portugis dan dijajah, ada juga dijajah belanda yg punya meriam satu kali tembak berkeliaran badan yg kena setelah pusing situ pusing sini


Added on September 14, 2010, 7:55 pmkesultanan melayu melaka yg ada silat harimau boleh pusing situ dan sini, dijajah oleh bomb meriam dan senapang homemade portugis yang tidak tahu pusing situ dan sini.

org portugis melihat dan berkata 'mengapa mereka pusing situ pusing sini?',
kapten mereka membalas 'aku juga tidak tahu! mungkin mereka minta belas kasihan daripada kita!'
kata krew kapten itu "tapi mereka bawa kris mereka yg bengkok2 seperti hendak membunuh kita"
trus kata kapten "betul juga itu, kasi stop saja pusing2 mereka dengan meriam kita ini, pandai juga mereka menipu kita dengan pusing2 mereka itu"
krew " okay bos, gustan sikit bos, aku mau kasi on meriam ni"
*maka berhentilah pusing2 sana dan sini*
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ini la dia orang internet bila mau bercakap.. doh.gif

kalau nak ilmu Silat paling tertinggi, kena p bertapa dulu lawan dengan "benda" itu dulu.. berapa je la yang boleh lepas

jadi ikut pandangan aku, ilmu moden tetap tak boleh dilupakan, senjata2 perang yang hebat2 kena ada juga, kalau nak harap manpower je, memang mampus la jawabnya

kalau ilmu modern warfare pun, memang yang paling penting strategi.. kena pandai guna otak, pandai main politik!


LOL no matter u have kung fu, krav maga, silat, machine gun or whatever...
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Sep 14 2010, 09:08 PM)
ini la dia orang internet bila mau bercakap..  doh.gif

kalau nak ilmu Silat paling tertinggi, kena p bertapa dulu lawan dengan "benda" itu dulu.. berapa je la yang boleh lepas

jadi ikut pandangan aku, ilmu moden tetap tak boleh dilupakan, senjata2 perang yang hebat2 kena ada juga, kalau nak harap manpower je, memang mampus la jawabnya

kalau ilmu modern warfare pun, memang yang paling penting strategi.. kena pandai guna otak, pandai main politik!


LOL no matter u have kung fu, krav maga, silat, machine gun or whatever...
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QUOTE(hack3line @ Sep 14 2010, 07:40 PM)
oh itu gerakan SILAT HARIMAU.. atau orang Minangkabau panggil Silek Harimau


Silek Harimau adalah gerakan silat paling asli atau paling tertua/terlama dalam sejarah dunia Melayu!

semua jenis silat kat Malaysia ni tak kira la gayung ke lincah ke cekak ke mesti ada juga belajar asas yang berasal dari Silek Harimau.. lagi2 silat gayung mesti ada punya gerakan harimau.

antara warisan Silek Harimau yang diwarisi oleh Silat Gayung antaranya
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Silek Harimau ni dah mala sungguh ada dalam dunia melayu.. sebelum tertubuhnya kerajaan Melayu Melaka lagi, sebelum ada Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat lagi ni.

aku sendiri keturunan asal dari Minangkabau, suku Biduanda keturunan diraja Negeri Sembilan, suku biduanda jugalah yang jadi Agong pertama sejak tertubuhnya negara MALAYSIA.

dulu sebelum adanya Hang Tuah dan Hang Jebat, memang keturunan Minangkabau pikul tanggungjawab jaga kedaulatan empayar melayu masa tu, antara yang paling rapat dengan kesultanan melayu melaka yang berasal dari Palembang.. kami keturunan biduanda (salah satu suku asal Minangkabau) asal dari wilayah Jambi di Sumatera.. kerajaan Melayu pertama di dunia ni abad ke-3 lagi dah ada! di Jambi, Sumatera sebelum majapahit jawa tenggelamkan empayar tu dan dibuat di Melaka pula.

nenek aku selalu kata jaga2 dengan orang Bugis sebab diaorang amat bengis.. dulu lepas era Hang Tuah dan Hang Jebat, terkenal pula dengan seorang Panglima Hitam, asal dari Bugis (lagenda orang Melayu dalam persilatan).. sampai sekarang semua yang menghadap raja atau sultan kena pakai pakaian hitam... silat gayung, pengasas dia keturunan bugis.. kalau ikut asas silat melayu adalah gerakan harimau, tapi aku tengok gayung ada gerakan helang dan ada pengaruh tarian dewa2 hindu (mungkin sebab dulu masa Majapahit Jawa kuasai tanah Melayu, dibawanya sekali pengaruh hindu yang amat kuat pada jawa dulu tu dan pengaruh persilatan melayu), silat lincah pula tengok macam Kung Fu pun ada gerakan dia.. dulu dunia melayu memang kena pengaruh yang amat kuat dengan seni bela diri cina yang dikenali sebagai kuntau.. silat cekak terutamanya Hanafi pula kata gerakan dia ambil dari gerakan solat.. entah la, aku rasa semua ni modal nak tarik orang masuk belajar dan buat duit.. tapi aku bagitau persilatan Melayu yang asli dulu, tak ada pun diaorang p buat promosi dan kata benda2 untuk tarik modal.. dulu semua orang belajar ikhlas.

keturunan atas aku memang agak menghairankan ilmu diaorang, dulu pernah seorang mengamuk depan cina di negeri sembilan sebab nak tipu dia.. dia p ambil cuka  getah pastu sapu kat muka dia (tapi tak jadi apa2 pun).. kat Batu Kikir, Negeri Sembilan dulu sebab cina juga p halau orang tua melayu dengan amat biadap dari kedai.. lepas tu suku biduanda kat negeri sembilan p tunjuk ilmu parang terbang betul2 depan cina yang cuba tunjuk kurang ajar di tanah melayu.. tergamam terus dia.

anyang aku, kira moyang aku belah atas-atas aku.. semua ada ilmu yang menghairankan, semua pernah jadi dukun besar di Negeri Sembilan dan Sumatera di wilayah Jambi tu.. macam moyang (perempuan) aku dulu, pernah dia nak mengubat orang, minyak kelapa muda tengah mendidih menggelegak tu selamba je dia kacau guna tangan dia.. adik-beradik dia pula ada seorang tu orang panggil dia bomoh patah.. kalau patah-patah, kemalangan teruk ke.. dia hanya sapu je tangan dia kat tempat patah tu terus je sembuh siap boleh lompat2 lagi.. hairan.

moyang aku (perempuan) dulu pernah selesaikan kes orang susah dapat jodoh, senang je dia kata mandi bunga.. lepas tu berduyun2 orang datang nak meminang sampai tak tahu nak pilih.. sakit kulit teruk dia kata ambil abu2 bekas orang masak (selalu orang kampung masak pakai dapur kayu atau masak kawah), letak dalam bekas campur air.. pastu tunggu sampai air tu betul2 jernih, buat mandi yang diatas jernih tu dan minum sedikit air tu.. kadang2 aku fikir macam mana sains dan budak atheis dalam internet nak terang benda2 yang dah berlaku ni aku sendiri pun rasa hairan.

selalunya dalam persilatan Melayu ada diuji benda2 ni
  1. Mandi Minyak
  2. Jalan terus atas bara api
  3. Lompat Gelung Api/kereta
  4. Lompat Kaca
  5. Tetak badan dengan parang
  6. Gantung diri
  7. Gelek lengan atau badan dengan kenderaan
  8. Hiris lengan dengan pisau
  9. Tempur bebas dengan mata tertutup
  10. Pemecahan batu sungai
  11. Bakar anggota badan dengan api

kalau tak ada ujian-ujian ni entah la nak panggil apa.. dulu orang Jawa Majapahit takut betul dengan ilmu kebal persilatan Melayu, diaorang ada kepercayaan kononnya ilmu kebal akan kalah dengan buluh runcing.. entah la.. tapi kalau kena dengan ilmu keris terbang ke parang terbang ke memang tak lama dah nyawa dia kat dunia ni.. hari2 sebelum p perang dengan musuh, hari2 p asah, asap dan limaukan keris atau parang tu serta dibacakan ayat2 sumpahan kepada musuh tu.
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