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Out of 1 to 10, how would you rate TM's DIR-615 ?
 
1 [ 178 ] ** [46.72%]
2 [ 24 ] ** [6.30%]
3 [ 28 ] ** [7.35%]
4 [ 14 ] ** [3.67%]
5 [ 56 ] ** [14.70%]
6 [ 16 ] ** [4.20%]
7 [ 12 ] ** [3.15%]
8 [ 14 ] ** [3.67%]
9 [ 5 ] ** [1.31%]
10 [ 34 ] ** [8.92%]
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post Oct 25 2010, 02:49 PM


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QUOTE(yongkailoon @ Oct 24 2010, 03:44 PM)
Anyone able to confirm if current Streamyx 1mbps plan is still under contract, is changing over to UniFi possible? Do they count this as an upgrade?
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Yes possible. U can just upgrade to unifi and yr streamyx package will be terminated even if u are under contract.
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Oct 25 2010, 09:40 AM)
Riz,

I fully support your cause.

http://www.aizuddindanian.com/voi/2010/10/...uring-unif.html

Also, i have access to the senior management of TM (Head of Technology, Giorgio, Head of Marketing, Rozalila, Head of Corporate Affairs, Izlyn). I have shared the issue with them. They can't claim to be unaware of the issue any longer.

They need to be aware that this problem they have in their service potentially opens them up to legal liability. If a customers' network is compromised because of this loophole that they intentionally created, then they are liable for any damages that may be caused (e.g. to customers' hardware, or if information is stolen, etc.)
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wah! ohmy.gif

this thread even come out at malaysia-today.net

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/fr...nsecuring-unifi
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QUOTE(damonlbs @ Oct 25 2010, 02:54 PM)
wah!  ohmy.gif

this thread even come out at malaysia-today.net

http://www.malaysia-today.net/mtcolumns/fr...nsecuring-unifi
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tentris articles do appear in MT some times smile.gif
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Wow, I haven't read this thread in a long time and it turned out there was quite and interesting debate going on.

I know Rizzy doesn't want to bother arguing about this anymore but I believe that I have to put my 2 cents in and show him some support. In a nutshell, he is right. Security by obscurity is NOT the way to go. There are entire debates on this and I'll let you all google it.

That being said and done, who was looking for Linux box for unifi? Its my pet project right now. Trying to get Busybox into an embedded PC.
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QUOTE(Tentris @ Oct 25 2010, 09:40 AM)
Riz,

I fully support your cause.

http://www.aizuddindanian.com/voi/2010/10/...uring-unif.html

Also, i have access to the senior management of TM (Head of Technology, Giorgio, Head of Marketing, Rozalila, Head of Corporate Affairs, Izlyn). I have shared the issue with them. They can't claim to be unaware of the issue any longer.

They need to be aware that this problem they have in their service potentially opens them up to legal liability. If a customers' network is compromised because of this loophole that they intentionally created, then they are liable for any damages that may be caused (e.g. to customers' hardware, or if information is stolen, etc.)
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Thank you for doing that, Tentris. If they insist on keeping the remote management open (which is flawed due to the usage of a master password and the exploitable nature of the firmware itself), the blood is on their hands as far as I'm concerned. All this discussion was spawned from :

1) TMs inability to realize that customers want full control over their own network
2) TMs trust in the vendor to provide hardware with a decent level of security

Some people have compared this to TM provided Streamyx routers with a default user/pass combo. The difference is that with Streamyx :

1) We've always had the ability to swap out their crappy hardware.
2) An attacker would not get an instant 5/10/20mbps uplink with your home network without you noticing that your uplink was saturated.
3) The TM Streamyx routers lack certain services which allow you to turn them into open proxies and the firmware itself is not exploitable AFAIK.
4) Streamyx speed is capped both at the physical and digital level.
5) Streamyx does not have a monthly 'quota'.

The ability to illegally increase your package speed (as rexio has kindly pointed out in his in depth technical 'laymans' guide /sarcasm), use the HSBB speeds as fast open proxies, mine information from users and possibly bypass the download quota (in the future) makes these Unifi routers valuable targets to outsiders especially since they're so easy to break into.. as TM is encouraging customers to just leave everything open.

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From what I can see in this forum, most of the subscriber prefer the technician/installer to install the unifi as soon as possible, do you think the technician/installer even bother to help you change the username/password for each of the unifi's subscriver's house, it'll take longer time isn't it?

The idea that it would take a long time to simply change a password and notify the customer that there's a secondary hidden account in their router meant for administration purposes (as compared to running your roof pulling fiber optic cabling or something) is laughable. Do you have no work ethic? Should surgeons leave patients half open because they want to get off the operating table ASAP?

They can let the customer change this or set it to shared variable such as a PPPoE password so only the customer + customer service staff have access to it. Most importantly, they have to disable the remote management and ask the customer to enable it only when it is needed (and patch the damn firmware). If you subscribe to this 'tidak apa, aku malas' attitude, then you deserve to be screwed over by other people. TM might as well set and lock the default wifi password to 'unifi' and claim that at least that way, every Malaysian will receive free high speed wifi access.

This is supposed to be some revolutionary new infrastructure for us Malaysians, why should we repeat the mistakes of the past? Just because it's already an issue with Streamyx, why let it continue with Unifi when we're starting with a clean slate? Frankly, I'm just disappointed that the LYN forums has to do all the technical support for such a large company.

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To the others who have thanked me, no prob I guess tongue.gif
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Anybody experienced this problem before?

I subscribed to the VIP5 package and it was installed last Friday. The TMNet workers didn't do the extended cabling(only in the living room), but recommended me to use the Aztech WL552 USB since my PC was located in the bedroom. I noticed that the software for it to connect to the DIR-615 is Ralink Wireless LAN.

After using it for a while, I tend to face performance instability during usage. While surfing, my CPU Usage would spike up to 100% at times. I had to restart in order to solve the problem. Plus, the USB dongle is very unstable during connection; tends to receive weak signals despite my attempt to mount some reflectors on my router antennas. My laptop, same distance as my PC received stable connections with mild interruption, as compared to the PC.

Plus, my Avira antivirus keeps blocking the autorun.inf file despite my attempt to exclude it from detection, rendering my connectivity useless. When I used another laptop to download the same software, McAfee Site Advisor reported that the program is infected.

I can't believe that TMNet uses some rootkit for wireless users?

P/S: I don't trust the pre-shared key that the workers gave to me, so I changed it as they can always abuse the use of the spot.

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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Oct 25 2010, 04:46 PM)
Thank you for doing that, Tentris. If they insist on keeping the remote management open (which is flawed due to the usage of a master password and the exploitable nature of the firmware itself), the blood is on their hands as far as I'm concerned. All this discussion was spawned from :

1) TMs inability to realize that customers want full control over their own network
2) TMs trust in the vendor to provide hardware with a decent level of security

Some people have compared this to TM provided Streamyx routers with a default user/pass combo. The difference is that with Streamyx :

1) We've always had the ability to swap out their crappy hardware.
2) An attacker would not get an instant 5/10/20mbps uplink with your home network without you noticing that your uplink was saturated.
3) The TM Streamyx routers lack certain services which allow you to turn them into open proxies and the firmware itself is not exploitable AFAIK.
4) Streamyx speed is capped both at the physical and digital level.
5) Streamyx does not have a monthly 'quota'.

The ability to illegally increase your package speed (as rexio has kindly pointed out in his in depth technical 'laymans' guide /sarcasm), use the HSBB speeds as fast open proxies, mine information from users and possibly bypass the download quota (in the future) makes these Unifi routers valuable targets to outsiders especially since they're so easy to break into.. as TM is encouraging customers to just leave everything open.
The idea that it would take a long time to simply change a password and notify the customer that there's a secondary hidden account in their router meant for administration purposes (as compared to running your roof pulling fiber optic cabling or something) is laughable. Do you have no work ethic? Should surgeons leave patients half open because they want to get off the operating table ASAP?

They can let the customer change this or set it to shared variable such as a PPPoE password so only the customer + customer service staff have access to it. Most importantly, they have to disable the remote management and ask the customer to enable it only when it is needed (and patch the damn firmware). If you subscribe to this 'tidak apa, aku malas' attitude, then you deserve to be screwed over by other people. TM might as well set and lock the default wifi password to 'unifi' and claim that at least that way, every Malaysian will receive free high speed wifi access.

This is supposed to be some revolutionary new infrastructure for us Malaysians, why should we repeat the mistakes of the past? Just because it's already an issue with Streamyx, why let it continue with Unifi when we're starting with a clean slate? Frankly, I'm just disappointed that the LYN forums has to do all the technical support for such a large company.

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To the others who have thanked me, no prob I guess tongue.gif
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Rizvanrp, you've my support. I can't believe there are people who do not see the potential dangers of what TM are doing, even after all that effort to explain.

It is becoming very obvious that TM's infrastructure philosophy is one built on laziness. Not effectiveness.

QUOTE(UserU @ Oct 25 2010, 05:12 PM)
Anybody experienced this problem before?

I subscribed to the VIP5 package and it was installed last Friday. The TMNet workers didn't do the extended cabling(only in the living room), but recommended me to use the Aztech WL552 USB since my PC was located in the bedroom. I noticed that the software for it to connect to the DIR-615 is Ralink Wireless LAN.

After using it for a while, I tend to face performance instability during usage. While surfing, my CPU Usage would spike up to 100% at times. I had to restart in order to solve the problem. Plus, the USB dongle is very unstable during connection; tends to receive weak signals despite my attempt to mount some reflectors on my router antennas. My laptop, same distance as my PC received stable connections with mild interruption, as compared to the PC.

Plus, my Avira antivirus keeps blocking the autorun.inf file despite my attempt to exclude it from detection, rendering my connectivity useless. When I used another laptop to download the same software, McAfee Site Advisor reported that the program is infected.

I can't believe that TMNet uses some rootkit for wireless users?

P/S: I don't trust the pre-shared key that the workers gave to me, so I changed it as they can always abuse the use of the spot.
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Is this software provided by Aztech or TM? Is that official TM software?
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i tot using aztech usb wireless adaptor has itself aztech software??
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I thought the issues of internet security is also having by Streamyx not only Unifi tongue.gif

ppl bising because the unifi have lot's of bandwidth to play with

My firewall always menjerit from those ppl infected with virus trying to get into my own streamyx network
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So many problems with Unifi... forget about it guys, March next year G want to introduce broadband with 100mbps... waaallaaaweyy... drool.gif

but, still wondering what kind of problems come with the package tongue.gif hehe

Cheers...

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QUOTE(Krank @ Oct 25 2010, 08:13 PM)
So may problems with Unifi... forget about it guys, March next year G want to introduce broadband with 100mbps... waaallaaaweyy... drool.gif

but, still wondering what kind of problems come with the package tongue.gif  hehe

Cheers...
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That's the one by YTL right? And I'm not referring to their wimax...


Added on October 25, 2010, 8:40 pmEh, I thought that VIP20 users are getting the earlier premium channels for free?

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   * BBC Knowledge
   * BBC Lifestyle
   * CBeebies
   * STAR Chinese Movies 2
   * STAR Chinese Channel
   * Channel [V] Taiwan
   * Fashion TV
   * Fashion TV HD

From what I see on their website and on the tv crawler, this is not the case. Did TM make a u-turn or what?

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seems unifi speed became sux every night =.=a
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anyone maybe know whats wrong with unifi?
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I feel unifi still unstable since launch
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QUOTE(flame7651 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:08 PM)
seems unifi speed became sux every night =.=a
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anyone maybe know whats wrong with unifi?
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Speed is OK here, Sg Buloh

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my speed seems to fine these two day after i make a complain.. hope it will stay as what it should be...

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I got this randomly during night time , location USJ
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QUOTE(flame7651 @ Oct 25 2010, 10:08 PM)
seems unifi speed became sux every night =.=a
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Certain of TM exchange were f***ed up during peak hours for Unifi users.
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i can't login to my BTU using admin : admin username and password,

do anybody know the user id and password for this one?
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Oct 25 2010, 07:27 PM)
Is this software provided by Aztech or TM? Is that official TM software?
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Yes, installed via CD. But I'm nonplussed that Aztech uses RALINK software? rclxub.gif


QUOTE(djhenry91 @ Oct 25 2010, 08:11 PM)
i tot using aztech usb wireless adaptor has itself aztech software??
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Nope. CD contents shows RALINK. Downloaded it from MY/ SG site, and its still RALINK(albeit warned about possible infections)

I think the somewhat 'backdoor' program causes my CPU power consumption to spike up, which I realized that this happens during disconnections.

Does the speed of the broadband have any impact on PC performance?


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I must say thx to Tentris for alerting the right channels. Lets hope now something can be done about it.

It's one thing when the user does something stupid that leaves themselves open to attacks (like setting dmz or what not); but it's different when your isp treats your security as if it is of no consequence to them, that is bollocks.

I too wonder why there has not been any group law suits against them for exposing our networks needlessly, if anything like this happened in any western country, there would be heavy fines or what not rolleyes.gif And remember, it's not just home users who are affected by this, but businesses as well who have a lot more to lose shocking.gif


Anyway other than that issue mentioned above, my Unifi 10 mbps is doing pretty well nod.gif

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