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post Aug 28 2010, 12:27 AM, updated 11y ago

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HOW TO MAKE SURE BUYER WILL GET REAL GENUINE PRODUCT FROM MICROSOFT. NOT!!! COUNTERFEIT


I want share my experience in IT WORLD.

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BE VERY CAREFUL over 90% of sealed Shrink Wrapped
boxed you see right now at this very moment
on eBay, some bid price in lelong from RM1, some in lowyat GarageSales, are COUNTERFEIT!
Today, SOME COUNTERFEIT WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE arrived at WWW.LELONG.COM.MY.
Click link here source

THEY WILL FOOL YOU! !!!!

SAMPLES OF older COUNTERFEIT PRO which
can easily fool you, & there are many more
Counterfeit Windows 7 Ultimate than any other type.

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COUNTERFEITS CAN FOOL 98% OF BUYERS FOR MONTHS,
Just long enough where it's too late to do anything about it
then it's TOO LATE & YOU LOOSE ALL YOUR MONEY!

Don't be clueless! Learn how to spot Counterfeit!
Don't become just another added to the growing list
of Victims fooled by Counterfeits


High Grade Counterfeit Windows 7 Pro Sample Gallery Comparison

Take 5 minutes & Learn How to tell


1. Retail Counterfeit vs. Retail Genuine DVD shocking.gif

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2. Retail Counterfeit vs. Genuine COA (Retail) rclxub.gif

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3. FULL VIEW OF 2 Counterfeit & 2 Genuine DVD shocking.gif

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4. MORE SAMPLES OF OLDER COUNTERFEITS BELOW SAY '' MADE IN USA '' BOGUS mad.gif

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MY ADVISE: IF YOU WANT BUY WINDOWS 7 GENUINE ORIGINAL & 100%AUTHENTIC, PLEASE GET FROM GENUINE STORE. YOU NEED TO CHECK BEFORE BUY.

T.Q

HOPE THIS ARTICLE CAN HELP PEOPLE

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Nice sharing!..Now wanna buy ori also scared..aiseyh..got so many tactics edy.. doh.gif
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post Aug 28 2010, 08:06 PM

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thanks for the info, will tell the others about this...
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haiz buy an original windows also scare cheat by the seller =_=
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If scare been cheating by someone, then buy for a laptop which come with genuine windows and product key, then it will be more secure lor....
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post Aug 28 2010, 11:34 PM

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A very great guide!!!!!
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post Aug 29 2010, 12:31 AM

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If u scare, then directly buy from microsoft outlet ba...its d most safety way. smile.gif ...but kinda shock tat they wan do counterfeit product until like tis sweat.gif ...mayb can find it at Petaling street laugh.gif

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Wow. Nice find TS thumbup.gif I thought high grade 1 to 1 pirating like this stop with Windows XP, guess it's not eh?
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Aug 29 2010, 02:16 PM)
Wow. Nice find TS thumbup.gif I thought high grade 1 to 1 pirating like this stop with Windows XP, guess it's not eh?
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as long as there's demand, those pirates wont stop doing their job. that is, to make profit as much as they can.
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QUOTE(mi-g @ Aug 29 2010, 06:23 PM)
as long as there's demand, those pirates wont stop doing their job. that is, to make profit as much as they can.
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No, no, no. You're mistaking this high-grade piraters with those pasar malam one. These kind of piraters, they feed on end users unawareness of how to differentiate genuine and fake media, especially when it looks 1 to 1 like original.
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post Aug 30 2010, 01:56 AM

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just wanted to correct you. i work for microsoft

these are the corrections :

1) Ingram Micro is an authorised distributor of Microsoft products. There are boxes of Microsoft products with 'Ingram Micro' labels which are genuine. Some may be fake....i have never come across them before in all my working years in Microsoft.

2) Microsoft products are also produced in the USA. CoA with 'made in USA' may be genuine....not all are fake.

the only difference to differenciate genuine and fake would be the silvery part of the CoA......the pictures showing the difference between genuine and fake silvery part of the CoA are all CORRECT.

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QUOTE(machaclan @ Aug 30 2010, 01:56 AM)
2) Microsoft products are also produced in the USA. CoA with 'made in USA' may be genuine....not all are fake.
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Really? I DID NOT work with Microsoft, but I do have come across lots of Microsoft products made for the U.S. market, but NONE of them are Made in USA. All of them are Made in Puerto Rico, be it retail, NFR, or VL disc. How it is Made in USA when Microsoft didn't have pressing facility in the U.S.? Care to enlighten me?
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Aug 30 2010, 05:17 AM)
Really? I DID NOT work with Microsoft, but I do have come across lots of Microsoft products made for the U.S. market, but NONE of them are Made in USA. All of them are Made in Puerto Rico, be it retail, NFR, or VL disc. How it is Made in USA when Microsoft didn't have pressing facility in the U.S.? Care to enlighten me?
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I'll give u a definite answer when i return to work after the Merdeka holidays.

i have come across boxes of Windows 7 which says Made in USA, Made in Puerto Rico and Made in Singapore when i was in the office working. i dont think counterfeit ones will come into the office. Anyway, if you claim that they are fake, please consider this :

If it is really made in Puerto Rico, then why would manufacturers of counterfeit versions put 'Made in USA'??? If the public knows that Windows 7 is made in Puerto Rico, manufacturers of counterfeits will put 'Made in Puerto Rico' and NOT 'Made in USA'. This is because this tactic will be able to deceive the public easily!!!

For example, a Manchester United jersey has a Nike logo on it. Manufacturers of counterfeit jerseys will also put a Nike logo on the jersey! If they put an Adidas logo, the public will know it is a fake and hence, will not buy it!!!


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Thanks for the reply.

QUOTE(machaclan @ Sep 1 2010, 02:17 AM)
i have come across boxes of Windows 7 which says Made in USA, Made in Puerto Rico and Made in Singapore when i was in the office working.
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Never across Made in USA, not even once. Made in Singapore is often for SEA distribution, so it's not that weird.
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buy keys and download , confirm works and genuine

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QUOTE(Prevail @ Sep 2 2010, 02:54 PM)
buy keys and download , confirm works and genuine
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Depends, if you buy keys directly from Microsoft, then there's no problem, if not, you get the risk of having your key blocked, just as this one.
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post Sep 2 2010, 04:08 PM

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so far no problem for me doing so..
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Oh my godness. This type of counterfeit is really DANGEROUS!! shocking.gif Thanks for the reminder. rclxms.gif
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thanks for sharing. where are the counterfeit origins?
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QUOTE(happyday119 @ Sep 11 2010, 01:45 AM)
thanks for sharing. where are the counterfeit origins?
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Sep 2 2010, 03:12 PM)
Depends, if you buy keys directly from Microsoft, then there's no problem, if not, you get the risk of having your key blocked, just as this one.
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How does one buy genuine key from Microsoft?

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QUOTE(happyday119 @ Sep 11 2010, 12:45 AM)
thanks for sharing. where are the counterfeit origins?
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MOST this FAKE SOFTWARE Is made IN CHINA....

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QUOTE(jackdaw @ Sep 11 2010, 12:23 PM)
How does one buy genuine key from Microsoft?

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For personal use, the only legal way is to buy through Microsoft Store, but unfortunately, it's not available to Malaysian, but I do believe you can still buy it though. If you're buying for company, there's volume licensing which gives you one installation media and key(s) to use. For this kind of licensing, you'll need to consult Microsoft Malaysia or it's authorized volume licensing partner for more information.
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Anyone here know any good/genuine Win 7 seller?


Added on September 11, 2010, 6:07 pmAnyone know whether it is possible to get an OEM version which I would think should be cheaper?

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post Sep 12 2010, 11:34 AM

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Does this kind of the counterfeit exists for Windows Xp packagees too? I saw some of the people in LYN selling some windows xp, but i want to asks if you guys knows that there are such pirated stuff exists for windows xp.
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QUOTE(jackdaw @ Sep 11 2010, 05:48 PM)
Anyone here know any good/genuine Win 7 seller?


Added on September 11, 2010, 6:07 pmAnyone know whether it is possible to get an OEM version which I would think should be cheaper?
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Of course you can buy the OEM version, but if you're thinking of changing the license to another computer (or change the motherboard to another brand) then you're out of luck. I recommend getting from retailer as they provide you receipt and IF it's counterfeit, you can get refund.


Added on September 12, 2010, 6:10 pm
QUOTE(richard_90 @ Sep 12 2010, 11:34 AM)
Does this kind of the counterfeit exists for Windows Xp packagees too? I saw some of the people in LYN selling some windows xp, but i want to asks if you guys knows that there are such pirated stuff exists for windows xp.
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Yes, there is, but I can't find the article Microsoft published about it. However, take a look at this safety guideline when determining software's genuine status.

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Sep 12 2010, 06:07 PM)

Added on September 12, 2010, 6:10 pm
Yes, there is, but I can't find the article Microsoft published about it. However, take a look at this safety guideline when determining software's genuine status.
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Thanks for the info man. Appreciate it.
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Sep 13 2010, 12:38 AM)
Thanks for the info man. Appreciate it.
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No problem smile.gif Please share the info with anyone that have doubt over their Microsoft software purchases.
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Wanna ask if I really bought a counterfeit product, how do i determined that? Is it I can't updates or my license key being block etc etc
Thanks biggrin.gif


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The possible consequences is that microsoft will notify you if your copy of windows is not genuine. However, it is known that sometimes microsoft accidentally label Genuine copy as non Genuine. But, if u experience this multiple times, the chances are higher that it is non genuine copy of windows.

The last thing you ever want to happen to you is to only find out that the windows cd or dvd you bought is the fake ones through customs officers.

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QUOTE(jackdaw @ Sep 11 2010, 05:48 PM)
Anyone here know any good/genuine Win 7 seller?


Added on September 11, 2010, 6:07 pmAnyone know whether it is possible to get an OEM version which I would think should be cheaper?
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Sep 12 2010, 06:07 PM)
Of course you can buy the OEM version, but if you're thinking of changing the license to another computer (or change the motherboard to another brand) then you're out of luck. I recommend getting from retailer as they provide you receipt and IF it's counterfeit, you can get refund.


Please ignore if you don't share my view;


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@macyhouse

Last time when i read the Microsoft T&C when installing the windows, it says it would not compensate more than 5 USD from Microsoft or related parties if anything goes wrong.

correct me if i am wrong because it is a very long time i did not read its T&C.
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Sep 21 2010, 01:31 PM)
@macyhouse

Last time when i read the Microsoft T&C when installing the windows, it says it would not compensate more than 5 USD from Microsoft or related parties if anything goes wrong.

correct me if i am wrong because it is a very long time i did not read its T&C.
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Got that meh .. no la .. unless you are saying from BOX .. meaning buying software only and install to DIY hardware hmm.gif
you only get to read it when you install i.e. when every idiot skip and just accept .. LOL .. me included .. cool2.gif

Ok la .. next time i copy and paste out ah .. LOL tongue.gif

No time do reseach on this la .. not confirm .. but sure dam long list of clauses .. for sure hardware mati not their problem .. 1 cent also won't give one .. LOL

But if software + hardware = official distributor ... all warranty base on distributor lo biggrin.gif

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Point taken ... what i said above is more to OEM validity and not warranty ....
Come on ... I install XP , Vista , Office ... if hardware spoil, i blame hardware or other application .. never on Windows right smile.gif

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Anyone know any reputable sellers in Lowyat selling Windows 7? And is the price for Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit RM369 ok?
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QUOTE(macyhouse @ Sep 21 2010, 06:08 PM)
Got that meh .. no la .. unless you are saying from BOX .. meaning buying software only and install to DIY hardware  hmm.gif
you only get to read it when you install i.e. when every idiot skip and just accept .. LOL .. me included ..  cool2.gif

Ok la .. next time i copy and paste out ah .. LOL  tongue.gif

No time do reseach on this la .. not confirm .. but sure dam long list of clauses .. for sure hardware mati not their problem .. 1 cent also won't give one .. LOL

But if software + hardware = official distributor ... all warranty base on distributor lo  biggrin.gif

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Point taken ... what i said above is more to OEM validity and not warranty ....
Come on ... I install XP , Vista , Office ... if hardware spoil, i blame hardware or other application .. never on Windows right  smile.gif
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Yup. I read the T&C last time before install it. So far, i never heard people blame windows for hardware failure. Thanks for the info, anyway.

QUOTE(Visualize @ Sep 22 2010, 09:37 PM)
Anyone know any reputable sellers in Lowyat selling Windows 7? And is the price for Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit RM369 ok?
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The Windows 7 home premium comes with 2 dvd for the 32 bits and the 64 bits. RM 369 is still ok.
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wow.. never know about this thing
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thanks for sharing this ... now i need to be very careful when buying windows ....
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Not only for the windows. Even handphone hardware also need to becareful. These cheaters are damned pro already.
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can also buy in microsoft website lor..
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QUOTE(azamfikri @ Sep 30 2010, 01:54 PM)
can also buy in microsoft website lor..
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Yes, you're right. Now Microsoft Store have been updated to support Malaysian buyers.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Sep 30 2010, 01:59 PM)
Yes, you're right. Now Microsoft Store have been updated to support Malaysian buyers.
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It is indeed a useful website for information. However, the price is not that "ideal".
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i am in search for a new notebook...when looking at toshiba brochures i see one of the spec (F60 S5321) it stated genuine windows 7...later i ask the SA do i get the original copy of the windows incase i had to format the notebook.....the SA told me no cd coz it already preinstalled but can burn it to other cd......is it true....?
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QUOTE(prospeed_ballz @ Oct 5 2010, 05:53 PM)
i am in search for a new notebook...when looking at toshiba brochures i see one of the spec (F60 S5321) it stated genuine windows 7...later i ask the SA do i get the original copy of the windows incase i had to format the notebook.....the SA told me no cd coz it already preinstalled but can burn it to other cd......is it true....?
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For toshiba, that is the problem. shakehead.gif

I have to tell my friend to help me to do the recovery backup image once he have installed the all the softwares to ensures that next time when my friend want to format the laptop, he still have an image to restore his Genuine windows 7. The only piece of backup avaliable to him. doh.gif

Forget to do? Say goodbye to your Genuine Windows 7 if you format it without having a backup image to DVD.



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thank you Quantum.......

at least the SA r telling the true......so we can use the image over and over again rite......?
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QUOTE(prospeed_ballz @ Oct 6 2010, 09:28 AM)
thank you Quantum.......

at least the SA r telling the true......so we can use the image over and over again rite......?
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If you don't lose your DVD, you can do so.
I always restore my backup image every month actually to clear up my system.
Keep it as good as new.
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BTW for SEA region it is made in Singapore.
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QUOTE(frags @ Oct 6 2010, 07:00 PM)
BTW for SEA region it is made in Singapore.
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A lot of people knows that. Why Microsoft would spend money to ship the Genuine DVD all the way from Pureto Rico to SEA while they have their own factory in Singapore?

Just like last time when my father's friend accidentally bought 2 FAKE nokia handphone.

I was quite suspicious about the sound quality and its Country of Origin; Made in Finland.

The FAKE nokia handphone quality is so good until i am fooled.

I only realised it when it cannot connect it to the computer using the PC Suite.

The only way i know to differentiate them is through testing the camera. The FAKE ones still does not have the auto focus feature for their camera labelled as "Carl Zeiss Tessar 2.8/5.4 AF 5MP".

Nowadays, those counterfeiters are real professional. doh.gif
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 6 2010, 09:35 PM)
I was quite suspicious about the sound quality and its Country of Origin; Made in Finland.
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Really? I thought some Nokia phones does originated from Finland, the motherland of all Nokia phones, no?


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It is indeed a useful website for information. However, the price is not that "ideal".
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Yes, I believe the prices on Microsoft Store doesn't reflect the current prices in Malaysia, perhaps they need someone from local subsidiary to manage the prices.

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 7 2010, 09:02 AM)
Really? I thought some Nokia phones does originated from Finland, the motherland of all Nokia phones, no?


Added on October 7, 2010, 9:04 am
Yes, I believe the prices on Microsoft Store doesn't reflect the current prices in Malaysia, perhaps they need someone from local subsidiary to manage the prices.
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I have 1 N82 also stated that is "MADE IN FINLAND". Thank God that is the Genuine 1. Recently most of the nokia phone is produced in China, if i am not mistaken.

Even the Nokia Blog shows that N8 is shipped out from the Nokia factory in China with DHL.

So far , i have not seen any Nokia N97 mini or Nokia X6 is "MADE IN FINLAND" yet. ( because i was too busy with my studies, so i did not involve myself in doing business temporary for nearly 2 months)

As for the store, it is good for those people previously being conned with the fake windows to buy from them since they are the official 1.
Getting things from official channel usually is more expensive. No doubt about that.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Aug 29 2010, 02:17 PM)
Really? I DID NOT work with Microsoft, but I do have come across lots of Microsoft products made for the U.S. market, but NONE of them are Made in USA. All of them are Made in Puerto Rico, be it retail, NFR, or VL disc. How it is Made in USA when Microsoft didn't have pressing facility in the U.S.? Care to enlighten me?
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So..... if I see a Windows 7 that says "MADE IN USA", it's more than likely that it's a fake? Or it's definitely a fake?

I'm surprised that it's not made in China, or made in India, since Microsoft has offices in India now.

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QUOTE(iAsk @ Oct 14 2010, 05:22 PM)
So..... if I see a Windows 7 that says "MADE IN USA", it's more than likely that it's a fake? Or it's definitely a fake?

I'm surprised that it's not made in China, or made in India, since Microsoft has offices in India now.

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More likely that it's a fake, can't be too sure. Plus that machaclan guy that claim to be Microsoft staff already silenced, so can't confirm if it has a chance of being the real deal. If you ask me, I'd avoid such items.

You shouldn't be surprised. There's only few of such facility in the world. Microsoft has office in Malaysia too, but it's not produced here. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(iAsk @ Oct 14 2010, 05:22 PM)
I'm surprised that it's not made in China, or made in India, since Microsoft has offices in India now.
Microsoft has offices all over the world smile.gif
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True. But not all of them have facility to create the Genuine Windows DVD.
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It's so cool, after looking at seantaro's first post with all the comparison photo, now I can spot fake in an instant.

I was just browsing the eBay listings, and it's just ridiculous how many fakes there are, I don't think any of them is legit. At least the ones that show the COA sticker photo are definitely fake, and the ones that don't show are "probably" fake, since the price is a dead giveaway.

Another question, how do I spot a fake MS Office? Pretty much the same things that you pay attention to for a fake Windows 7?

Thank you all. This forum is awesome, it really saved me a lot of trouble!
I was so tempted by the low price on eBay.
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QUOTE(iAsk @ Oct 17 2010, 03:28 AM)
It's so cool, after looking at seantaro's first post with all the comparison photo, now I can spot fake in an instant.

I was just browsing the eBay listings, and it's just ridiculous how many fakes there are, I don't think any of them is legit. At least the ones that show the COA sticker photo are definitely fake, and the ones that don't show are "probably" fake, since the price is a dead giveaway.

Another question, how do I spot a fake MS Office? Pretty much the same things that you pay attention to for a fake Windows 7?

Thank you all. This forum is awesome, it really saved me a lot of trouble!
I was so tempted by the low price on eBay.
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Remember, people always wants to "gain" from sales, either cheating or profiting from it unless for special circumstances such as selling second hand stuff or short of cash.

Always try to understand why people sell cheap.
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PIC WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE
i just receive the seller sending me the pic for the windows 7 ultimate he selling .this guy is trcttr. i have no idea is fake or not but from the picture is seems fake. beware if your guy need to buy.
here the pic he sent me .first time i asking the pic he give me very blur one so i ask again.

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PIC WINDOWS 7 ULTIMATE
i just receive the seller sending me the pic for the windows 7 ultimate he selling .this guy is trcttr. i have no idea is fake or not but from the picture is seems fake. beware if your guy need to buy.
here the pic he sent me .first time i  asking the pic he give me very blur one so i ask again.
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Take a look at the first post picture no.2 and first box on the top of the picture.

I think it might be one of them.
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HOW TO MAKE SURE BUYER WILL GET REAL GENUINE PRODUCT FROM MICROSOFT. NOT!!! COUNTERFEIT
I want share my experience in IT WORLD.

youtube share: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzqNNiOM0cs&feature=related
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BE VERY CAREFUL over 90% of sealed Shrink Wrapped
boxed you see right now at this very moment
on eBay, some bid price in lelong from RM1, some in lowyat GarageSales,  are COUNTERFEIT!
THEY WILL FOOL YOU!

SAMPLES OF older COUNTERFEIT PRO which
can easily fool you, & there are many more
Counterfeit Windows 7 Ultimate than any other type.

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COUNTERFEITS CAN FOOL 98% OF BUYERS FOR MONTHS,
Just long enough where it's too late to do anything about it
then it's TOO LATE & YOU LOOSE ALL YOUR MONEY!

Don't be clueless! Learn how to spot Counterfeit!
Don't become just another added to the growing list
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High Grade Counterfeit Windows 7 Pro Sample Gallery Comparison

Take 5 minutes & Learn How to tell
1. Retail Counterfeit vs. Retail Genuine DVD  shocking.gif

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2. Retail Counterfeit vs. Genuine COA (Retail)  rclxub.gif

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3. FULL VIEW OF 2 Counterfeit & 2 Genuine DVD  shocking.gif

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4. MORE SAMPLES OF OLDER COUNTERFEITS BELOW SAY '' MADE IN USA '' BOGUS  mad.gif

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MY ADVISE: IF YOU WANT BUY WINDOWS 7 GENUINE ORIGINAL & 100%AUTHENTIC, PLEASE GET FROM GENUINE STORE. YOU NEED TO CHECK BEFORE BUY.

T.Q

HOPE THIS ARTICLE CAN HELP PEOPLE
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Ok, so I decided to stay away from eBay. I found a couple of "seemed-legit" websites on the internet that sell "claimed-to-be-legit" OEM. They don't send the "actual physical" CD to the buyers, but instead, buyers are given a download link after making a purchase.

It seems legit, and I can use my credit card protection if they turn out to be fraudulent.

But there is something I don't understand, that is, all these websites disclose the following:

"You cannot register the software with the manufacturer and may not be able to obtain product updates."


I thought users could still register even with OEM windows. No?

Could someone please enlighten me.

Thank you all....
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QUOTE(iAsk @ Oct 22 2010, 10:19 AM)
Ok, so I decided to stay away from eBay. I found a couple of "seemed-legit" websites on the internet that sell "claimed-to-be-legit" OEM. They don't send the "actual physical" CD to the buyers, but instead, buyers are given a download link after making a purchase.

It seems legit, and I can use my credit card protection if they turn out to be fraudulent.

But there is something I don't understand, that is, all these websites disclose the following:

"You cannot register the software with the manufacturer and may not be able to obtain product updates."
I thought users could still register even with OEM windows. No?

Could someone please enlighten me.

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I've encountered such website(s) before and this is what I can summarize about them:
  • OEM Software? Bullshit! - OEM softwares especially Windows and Office have COA and you will need them to prove that your software is genuine.
  • Can't receive updates? Bullshit! - If your softwares are genuine, no matter if it's retail or OEM, you should and can receive updates from publisher
Those softwares on their site are either stolen full version softwares (that doesn't require online/offline activation), softwares with generated license keys, pre-cracked softwares (that have licensing part stipped) or abuse uses of license keys (in case of Windows and Office).

Once, I found a link on the Internet to those kind of site that offers Photoshop CS4 which they claim to be full original version. I somehow managed to extract the direct link to the file and downloaded it. Guess what, they put in a keygen in there and ask their "customer" to generate a key for their use. So much for the original eh?

My advice? Stay away. It does tempting as the prices are waaaaaay cheaper than any retailers can offers, but it's not worth your times, moneys and efforts.

For eBay however, you can still deal with them, but you need to be really careful. Most of the times, I only buy vintage softwares as those are hard to get and, well, since it's vintage, no one bothers to counterfeit them.

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 19 2010, 01:44 AM)
thx 2 u...now i know how to detect whether ori or not...i'm using w7 pro now,no prob to update n installing mse...i think tht a true genuine w7... rclxm9.gif
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Counterfeiters always "improves" their product over the time. Ask for the receipt when you have bought such a stuff at all times.

QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 22 2010, 11:00 AM)
I've encountered such website(s) before and this is what I can summarize about them:

  • OEM Software? Bullshit! - OEM softwares especially Windows and Office have COA and you will need them to prove that your software is genuine.
  • Can't receive updates? Bullshit! - If your softwares are genuine, no matter if it's retail or OEM, you should and can receive updates from publisher
Those softwares on their site are either stolen full version softwares (that doesn't require online/offline activation), softwares with generated license keys, pre-cracked softwares (that have licensing part stipped) or abuse uses of license keys (in case of Windows and Office).

Once, I found a link on the Internet to those kind of site that offers Photoshop CS4 which they claim to be full original version. I somehow managed to extract the direct link to the file and downloaded it. Guess what, they put in a keygen in there and ask their "customer" to generate a key for their use. So much for the original eh?

My advice? Stay away. It does tempting as the prices are waaaaaay cheaper than any retailers can offers, but it's not worth your times, moneys and efforts.

For eBay however, you can still deal with them, but you need to be really careful. Most of the times, I only buy vintage softwares as those are hard to get and, well, since it's vintage, no one bothers to counterfeit them.
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Heed the advice man. it is for your own good.

Things that are too good to be truth is not as it seems to be.
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Counterfeiters always "improves" their product over the time. Ask for the receipt when you have bought such a stuff at all times.
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Heed the advice man. it is for your own good.

Things that are too good to be truth is not as it seems to be.
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I know, if something sounds too good to be true, it most likely is.

It's just that these websites seem so legit, and they blatantly sell illegal products and nobody has yet done anything to them. A stupid person like me would think "well, they've been on the web for a long time, if they are doing something wrong, something bad should have already happened to them".

I guess I just have to control my cheapness and greed, so I don't end up buying these super-deal-fake products.
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QUOTE(iAsk @ Oct 23 2010, 06:29 AM)
I know, if something sounds too good to be true, it most likely is.

It's just that these websites seem so legit, and they blatantly sell illegal products and nobody has yet done anything to them. A stupid person like me would think "well, they've been on the web for a long time, if they are doing something wrong, something bad should have already happened to them".

I guess I just have to control my cheapness and greed, so I don't end up buying these super-deal-fake products.
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You are not stupid, man. It is the cheaters are brilliant in an evil way.

It is hard to shut down all of the illegal sellers. So many bad guys in the web, but how many police is policing the wild wild west sites?

Mods of the sites usually have work to do. Until they are notified and decided to take action, only the bad guys' attempt to sell will be stopped. But even they are stopped in this way, it is free to create a new identity or account to continue to cheat in some sites. doh.gif
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 22 2010, 11:00 AM)
I've encountered such website(s) before and this is what I can summarize about them:

  • OEM Software? Bullshit! - OEM softwares especially Windows and Office have COA and you will need them to prove that your software is genuine.
  • Can't receive updates? Bullshit! - If your softwares are genuine, no matter if it's retail or OEM, you should and can receive updates from publisher
Those softwares on their site are either stolen full version softwares (that doesn't require online/offline activation), softwares with generated license keys, pre-cracked softwares (that have licensing part stipped) or abuse uses of license keys (in case of Windows and Office).

Once, I found a link on the Internet to those kind of site that offers Photoshop CS4 which they claim to be full original version. I somehow managed to extract the direct link to the file and downloaded it. Guess what, they put in a keygen in there and ask their "customer" to generate a key for their use. So much for the original eh?

My advice? Stay away. It does tempting as the prices are waaaaaay cheaper than any retailers can offers, but it's not worth your times, moneys and efforts.

For eBay however, you can still deal with them, but you need to be really careful. Most of the times, I only buy vintage softwares as those are hard to get and, well, since it's vintage, no one bothers to counterfeit them.
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owh...really??but when i purchase w7 pro the seller not give me coa???wtf!!that mean its fake???
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owh...really??but when i purchase w7 pro the seller not give me coa???wtf!!that mean its fake???
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The key is genuine, but most likely taken from a TechNet/MSDN subscriptions, which is only meant for use by the account holder. So if you ask me, I'll still classified that as not genuine as you can't prove that you buy it because you didn't get any COA or any proof that you've purchased the real thing. If possible, I suggest you to ask for refund if the seller can't provide some kind of concrete proof of its authenticity.
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The key is genuine, but most likely taken from a TechNet/MSDN subscriptions, which is only meant for use by the account holder. So if you ask me, I'll still classified that as not genuine as you can't prove that you buy it because you didn't get any COA or any proof that you've purchased the real thing. If possible, I suggest you to ask for refund if the seller can't provide some kind of concrete proof of its authenticity.
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I recently came across a small program that checks the validity of your Product Key (not Product ID), so you can know if it's genuine without actually installing it. Or you can know if the Key is retail or MSDN or OEM before you use it in installation.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the link to the download of the program, or if I'm allowed to upload such program.
For all I know, the program could be a fake itself.

I tried couple Keys from my friends, and the program somehow was able to identify the Keys.

So, anyways, if you know of, or have heard of, such program, please share your insight.

Thank you.


It's called: Windows 7 PID KEY Checker 1.0.1.

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QUOTE(iAsk @ Oct 24 2010, 07:39 AM)
I recently came across a small program that checks the validity of your Product Key (not Product ID), so you can know if it's genuine without actually installing it. Or you can know if the Key is retail or MSDN or OEM before you use it in installation.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post the link to the download of the program, or if I'm allowed to upload such program.
For all I know, the program could be a fake itself.

I tried couple Keys from my friends, and the program somehow was able to identify the Keys.

So, anyways, if you know of, or have heard of, such program, please share your insight.

Thank you.
It's called: Windows 7 PID KEY Checker 1.0.1.

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i already check whether genuine or not at microsoft website...n it told me that my windows is genuine...it also offer me some product of microsoft including microsoft security essential n technical support....

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 24 2010, 02:22 PM)
i already check whether genuine or not at microsoft website...n it told me that my windows is genuine...it also offer me some product of microsoft including microsoft security essential n technical support....
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As I said before, it's genuine key, but it's not licensed for your use, it's only to used by owner of the account. Mind you that when Microsoft detect abuse use of the keys, they will block it and all your money will gone to waste with no one to help you. The seller? Probably gone with your money and start conning other peoples.

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 23 2010, 03:47 PM)
owh...really??but when i purchase w7 pro the seller not give me coa???wtf!!that mean its fake???
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The key is genuine, but most likely taken from a TechNet/MSDN subscriptions, which is only meant for use by the account holder. So if you ask me, I'll still classified that as not genuine as you can't prove that you buy it because you didn't get any COA or any proof that you've purchased the real thing. If possible, I suggest you to ask for refund if the seller can't provide some kind of concrete proof of its authenticity.
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I have friend offer me the genuine windows 7 pro for about rm150.

When i ask about any proof of purchase such as receipt or DVD or COA, he said no, but he said that those copies activated through the Microsoft server is different than offline activation to persuade me to buy.

At the end of course i say no. THERE IS NO WAY OF PROOFING I PURCHASED THE SOFTWARE. When it comes to Intellectual Property, it is important that you must make sure that the licensed is wholly and exclusively for you when you paid it. This is because it means that you have the right to use the software legally along with its proof.

How much you paid?

As for refunding, Good luck.
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I have friend offer me the genuine windows 7 pro for about rm150.

When i ask about any proof of purchase such as receipt or DVD or COA, he said no, but he said that those copies activated through the Microsoft server is different than offline activation to persuade me to buy.

At the end of course i say no. THERE IS NO WAY OF PROOFING I PURCHASED THE SOFTWARE. When it comes to Intellectual Property, it is important that you must make sure that the licensed is wholly and exclusively for you when you paid it. This is because it means that you have the right to use the software legally along with its proof.

How much you paid?

As for refunding, Good luck.
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^ This. thumbup.gif By the way, all of them still need to be activated through the Internet. There's no such thing as offline activation unless you're on master OEM licenses. Heck, even Enterprise version need to connect to a (local/outside) KMS server to activate.
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becareful at garage sales have a person may or maynot selling fake windows..not i want to make noise about him just because i receive the picture for coa as known is fake.but many user claim is original and call microsoft to verify as well. just double check because even gen key also can use for update and activated.

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owh...i see.....tq all 4 ur information...anyway...i juz buy rm178 at pc shop...wht happen if ms detect that i abuse this key???it will block whole pc or juz windows??
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 24 2010, 11:27 PM)
owh...i see.....tq all 4 ur information...anyway...i juz buy rm178 at pc shop...wht happen if ms detect that i abuse this key???it will block whole pc or juz windows??
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RM178?? What license you bought it ? It will show the message your windows not genuine. your pc is fine not worry.
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RM178?? What license you bought it ? It will show the message your windows not genuine. your pc is fine not worry.
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mine use oem...w7 pro 32bit..

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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 25 2010, 12:10 AM)
mine use oem...w7 pro 32bit..
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i see. even oem win7 home premium not cheap as that .probaly is fake or illegal or free gift set if luckily.

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 24 2010, 06:29 PM)
^ This.  thumbup.gif  By the way, all of them still need to be activated through the Internet. There's no such thing as offline activation unless you're on master OEM licenses. Heck, even Enterprise version need to connect to a (local/outside) KMS server to activate.
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I mean the ahem version. Last time i use it. That is how he said it is different when i argue that i can update the Ultimate "ahem" version while activating offline because i tell him like this:

1. no receipt
2. non original 1
3. No COA

if i pay him rm 150 for the professional version. What is the difference? He said the opportunity to activate online using his key and i have to activate offline when i am using the ahem version's key. doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(cycquest @ Oct 25 2010, 12:44 AM)
i see. even oem win7 home premium not cheap as that .probaly is fake or illegal or free gift set if luckily.
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The key is genuine, but most likely taken from a TechNet/MSDN subscriptions, which is only meant for use by the account holder. So if you ask me, I'll still classified that as not genuine as you can't prove that you buy it because you didn't get any COA or any proof that you've purchased the real thing. If possible, I suggest you to ask for refund if the seller can't provide some kind of concrete proof of its authenticity.
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can refund eh??
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 25 2010, 01:10 AM)
I mean the ahem version.
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can refund eh??
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Usually your money is good as gone, but I don't know, you can try though.

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Aha, sorry for misunderstanding your statement. tongue.gif


Added on October 25, 2010, 6:16 am
Usually your money is good as gone, but I don't know, you can try though.
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okey...i'll be try....i buy it at pc shop...at least if they refused to return back my money,i can report to consumer tribunal... brows.gif
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 25 2010, 12:32 PM)
okey...i'll be try....i buy it at pc shop...at least if they refused to return back my money,i can report to consumer tribunal... brows.gif
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PC shop and they didn't provide COA for you? You should definitely report them to consumer tribunal even if they did refund you back. Who knows how much customers has been conned into buying them doh.gif
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PC shop and they didn't provide COA for you? You should definitely report them to consumer tribunal even if they did refund you back. Who knows how much customers has been conned into buying them doh.gif
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em...ok that very gud idea....tipu customer about genuine windows....anyway,thx for ur info... rclxms.gif
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okey...i'll be try....i buy it at pc shop...at least if they refused to return back my money,i can report to consumer tribunal... brows.gif
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If they refuse to refund, try to negotiate with them for discount by buying goods from them.

Sincerely, i advise you should prepare for the worst.

Since they give you the code without COA, they can simply deny the whole transaction has taken place.

Did you have a receipt for paying for it?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 25 2010, 09:20 PM)
If they refuse to refund, try to negotiate with them for discount by buying goods from them.

Sincerely, i advise you should prepare for the worst.

Since they give you the code without COA, they can simply deny the whole transaction has taken place.

Did you have a receipt for paying for it?
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yup...they give my receipt....
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yup...they give my receipt....
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Good for you. Always try to negotiate for some other things other than software ( since they did not provide you the license meant for you to use) before going to the tribunal to pressure them if the situation goes hostile.

However, there is 1 question raised in my mind:

Did they actually explain to you that the key is wholly and exclusively for you to use or you just straight away buy just because it is cheap without fully understand the package offer?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 26 2010, 03:26 AM)
Good for you. Always try to negotiate for some other things other than software ( since they did not provide you the license meant for you to use) before going to the tribunal to pressure them if the situation goes hostile.

However, there is 1 question raised in my mind:

Did they actually explain to you that the key is wholly and exclusively for you to use or you just straight away buy just because it is cheap without fully understand the package offer?
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actually...yes....my friend hv recommend to me tht those pc shop invent da promotion 4 w7 pro oem....i already know tht w7 pro genuine worth rm450++,so i bought it without delay....yes...its my fault....should i survey first be4 buying.... doh.gif
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QUOTE(machaclan @ Aug 30 2010, 01:56 AM)
just wanted to correct you. i work for microsoft

these are the corrections :

the only difference to differenciate genuine and fake would be the silvery part of the CoA......the pictures showing the difference between genuine and fake silvery part of the CoA are all CORRECT.
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this one me still blurry...mind to elaborate more in details?
what if i encounter this situation...i wanna grab 1 sealed Window 7 (since i can't differentiate from the silvery part COA) but of coz seller wouldn't allow me to c the disc inside (that particular thin foil sticker can b detected easily)
if i'm spending ~rm700 then get fake 1 really can't accept tat.... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Oct 26 2010, 03:59 AM)
actually...yes....my friend hv recommend to me tht those pc shop invent da promotion 4 w7 pro oem....i already know tht w7 pro genuine worth rm450++,so i bought it without delay....yes...its my fault....should i survey first be4 buying.... doh.gif
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Do not survey for the lowest price.

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Software price will not dropped just because the time factor.

Before Windows Xp is taken off the shelf, the Retail Price is still about RM3XX despite the fact that it is already gonna celebrate its 1 decade anniversary next year.



QUOTE(huzzLEE_82 @ Oct 26 2010, 10:10 AM)
this one me still blurry...mind to elaborate more in details?
what if i encounter this situation...i wanna grab 1 sealed Window 7 (since i can't differentiate from the silvery part COA) but of coz seller wouldn't allow me to c the disc inside (that particular thin foil sticker can b detected easily)
if i'm spending ~rm700 then get fake 1 really can't accept tat....  sweat.gif
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That piece of thing is the reason why you have to pay RM XXX for it.

If you snap the photo of it ( containing the serial), means the seller lose RM XXX indirectly. He can still sell though. But he is running the risk of getting into the trouble when the person who gets the key through the photo and the person who pays for it is blacklisted by Microsoft.

I am not saying that you would have this kind of intention, but you can see how "confidential" these things are.


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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 26 2010, 11:56 AM)
Do not survey for the lowest price.

REMEMBER MY ADVICE BELOW:

Software price will not dropped just because the time factor.

Before Windows Xp is taken off the shelf, the Retail Price is still about RM3XX despite the fact that it is already gonna celebrate its 1 decade anniversary next year.
That piece of thing is the reason why you have to pay RM XXX for it.
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Actually, after a lot of times involving in software purchases, I can say that price drop depends on both time and popularity factor. If one product is new, but it's not popular (such as Windows Vista), you can see almost everyone (except those still in denial) sell them quite cheap. Windows XP still have high value since it's still popular and from time to time, it's getting harder to get them, thus increasing the price. Now, retail version of Windows XP, especially sealed boxed, can jump as high as USD$500 (or more).

There's nothing wrong with surveying for better price for anything, it's just that you need to first control your greed and think clearly. If in doubt, you can always ask around (including me tongue.gif ) before making any purchases.
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Actually, after a lot of times involving in software purchases, I can say that price drop depends on both time and popularity factor. If one product is new, but it's not popular (such as Windows Vista), you can see almost everyone (except those still in denial) sell them quite cheap. Windows XP still have high value since it's still popular and from time to time, it's getting harder to get them, thus increasing the price. Now, retail version of Windows XP, especially sealed boxed, can jump as high as USD$500 (or more).

There's nothing wrong with surveying for better price for anything, it's just that you need to first control your greed and think clearly. If in doubt, you can always ask around (including me tongue.gif ) before making any purchases.
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For me, it is a rare scene and i will really grab it if i come across such a promotion.

Microsoft is gonna stop Windows XP support within 3 years if not for 2 year's time, i am not gonna spend money on Windows XP already.

Surveying is a right of the consumer. But like i said, it is a rare scene to see cheap Windows software promotion for me.

When it comes to Microsoft Windows, i do not actually survey for a price because even if it is cheap, it would hardly be over than RM50 and with the time and risk involved, i think I'll pass about it.

On the contrary, Antivirus software really have to survey kaw kaw (cukup cukup).
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 26 2010, 07:09 PM)
For me, it is a rare scene and i will really grab it if i come across such a promotion.

Microsoft is gonna stop Windows XP support within 3 years if not for 2 year's time, i am not gonna spend money on Windows XP already.

Surveying is a right of the consumer. But like i said, it is a rare scene to see cheap Windows software promotion for me.

When it comes to Microsoft Windows, i do not actually survey for a price because even if it is cheap, it would hardly be over than RM50 and with the time and risk involved, i think I'll pass about it.

On the contrary, Antivirus software really have to survey kaw kaw (cukup cukup).
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Ha, yes, that's true. But then again, it's all depends on the buyers observation skills too to make sure it's genuine + really good deal = FTW! tongue.gif Windows XP (SP3) will still have extended support until 2014, so perhaps that's why there are still many peoples flocking to get it. To me, I already move on and only buy those softwares for collection purposes only.

And I have to agree about antivirus suites. Now day there's lot of peoples selling keys only, and while the authority might not ask for any COA, it still poses risk to the buyer as they can be blacklisted anytime.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 26 2010, 07:47 PM)
Ha, yes, that's true. But then again, it's all depends on the buyers observation skills too to make sure it's genuine + really good deal = FTW! tongue.gif Windows XP (SP3) will still have extended support until 2014, so perhaps that's why there are still many peoples flocking to get it. To me, I already move on and only buy those softwares for collection purposes only.

And I have to agree about antivirus suites. Now day there's lot of peoples selling keys only, and while the authority might not ask for any COA, it still poses risk to the buyer as they can be blacklisted anytime.
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microsoft ask for coa???wht do u mean??isn't can be arrest o something if we can't prove that we use genuine windows??
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microsoft ask for coa???wht do u mean??isn't can be arrest o something if we can't prove that we use genuine windows??
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Microsoft won't, they usually use their partner, the BSA (Business Software Alliance) to do the checking but mostly its for companies that is using pirated softwares. However, I heard that Singapore customs checks for genuine softwares. True or not, I don't know but it's better be safe now than later.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 26 2010, 07:47 PM)
Ha, yes, that's true. But then again, it's all depends on the buyers observation skills too to make sure it's genuine + really good deal = FTW! tongue.gif Windows XP (SP3) will still have extended support until 2014, so perhaps that's why there are still many peoples flocking to get it. To me, I already move on and only buy those softwares for collection purposes only.

And I have to agree about antivirus suites. Now day there's lot of peoples selling keys only, and while the authority might not ask for any COA, it still poses risk to the buyer as they can be blacklisted anytime.
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Wow, you sure about it?

I buy 1 Trend Micro IS before, it only costs me Rm30 thumbup.gif and F secure IS for RM 39 only. Both for 3 users in 1 license key with CD.

Although they are 2008 version, but it can be used with the latest version. laugh.gif

QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Oct 26 2010, 08:13 PM)
Microsoft won't, they usually use their partner, the BSA (Business Software Alliance) to do the checking but mostly its for companies that is using pirated softwares. However, I heard that Singapore customs checks for genuine softwares. True or not, I don't know but it's better be safe now than later.
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That is what i am trying to say a month ago.

QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Sep 17 2010, 06:29 PM)
The possible consequences is that microsoft will notify you if your copy of windows is not genuine. However, it is known that sometimes microsoft accidentally label Genuine copy as non Genuine. But, if u experience this multiple times, the chances are higher that it is non genuine copy of windows.

The last thing you ever want to happen to you is to only find out that the windows cd or dvd you bought is the fake ones through customs officers.
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BSA is for the business concern. However, it is essential to support the genuine software for a few reasons:

1. If you are traveling aboard, there is a risk that you may get into trouble because you do not want to spend RM XXX and pay fine in RM XXXXX, not to mention of the risk of being jailed.

Today i come across this article: http://msn.finance.com.my/index.php/rss/4421198

I don't think catching software piracy is their main concern, but it still pose as a risk as well.

2. Enjoy the latest software features and best protection ever. I don't like to spend time to clear my PC when it is being infected with virus, although genuine software does not eliminate this threat, but it greatly reduces it.

3. When you buy a laptop with a OEM windows license, the entire amount is entitled to tax relief subjected to RM 3000 limit and only available 3 years since the last claim for the PC purchase. If you buy it separately, i am not sure. I heard that the amount might increased to Rm 3500 next year, but i am not sure because i did not go through the budget 2011.

Therefore, always try to buy the genuine software if you are able to buy it.

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thanks for the info, will tell the others about this...
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Nice sharing!..Now wanna buy ori also scared..aiseyh..got so many tactics edy.. doh.gif
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so scary wor. =/
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my pc got windows 7 installed together with COA. so far no problem.
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my pc got windows 7 installed together with COA. so far no problem.
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Don't worry.

If it is pre installed OEM with COA on it, then it shouldn't be a pirated copy.

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Is there like a windows only store like we can buy without fear of being cheated?
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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Nov 7 2010, 08:49 AM)
Is there like a windows only store like we can buy without fear of being cheated?
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You can visit Microsoft Store Malaysia, but it's rather expensive than buying from local retailer.
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Is there like a windows only store like we can buy without fear of being cheated?
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You can buy from reputable shops such as The Hub in lowyat plaza.

You can also buy from person you TRUST.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Nov 7 2010, 09:12 AM)
You can visit Microsoft Store Malaysia, but it's rather expensive than buying from local retailer.
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You can buy from reputable shops such as The Hub in lowyat plaza.

You can also buy from person you TRUST.
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thx for the info guys better be safe than sorry thumbup.gif
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thx for the info guys better be safe than sorry  thumbup.gif
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Yeah, it is a huge investment at the end of the day.
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to go through all these hassle now i understand why some would resort to the ehem ehem version brows.gif
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to go through all these hassle now i understand why some would resort to the ehem ehem version  brows.gif
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Well, it is not the main reason though.

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Well, it is not the main reason though.
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yeah there are alot of other factors that needs to be accounted for but some may find this one of the turn off to go for ori especially after you paid quite a sum only to discover you have been cheated sweat.gif
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yeah there are alot of other factors that needs to be accounted for but some may find this one of the turn off to go for ori especially after you paid quite a sum only to discover you have been cheated  sweat.gif
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Yeah. But i think that is only X% among the ahem users if not for .XX%.

I wonder if Microsoft would compensate the people being cheated if they buy it as same as the market price?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Nov 10 2010, 11:38 AM)
Yeah. But i think that is only X% among the ahem users if not for .XX%.

I wonder if Microsoft would compensate the people being cheated if they buy it as same as the market price?
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If those users can prove that they're being sold counterfeit, complete with seller name and address of the shop etc, then Microsoft will provide them with an original copy of the OS.
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If those users can prove that they're being sold counterfeit, complete with seller name and address of the shop etc, then Microsoft will provide them with an original copy of the OS.
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I will trust the words coming from a Microsoft enthusiast thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(satoshi.mifune @ Nov 11 2010, 05:42 AM)
I will trust the words coming from a Microsoft enthusiast  thumbup.gif
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Well you shouldn't trust me 100%, but I do strive to provide correct informations to ensure other members have definite answers to their questions/problems smile.gif
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If those users can prove that they're being sold counterfeit, complete with seller name and address of the shop etc, then Microsoft will provide them with an original copy of the OS.
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Have anyone managed to get such a compensation?

Do you mean the sales person's name?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Nov 11 2010, 09:18 AM)
Have anyone managed to get such a compensation?

Do you mean the sales person's name?
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Never heard for Windows 7, but there's cases for Windows XP. Usually Microsoft will need the location of the shop and if possible the sales person's name so they can do raid. When raid is complete and it's proven that the shop are selling counterfeit, then you'll be awarded the Get Genuine Kit to replace your current counterfeit installation.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Nov 11 2010, 09:26 AM)
Never heard for Windows 7, but there's cases for Windows XP. Usually Microsoft will need the location of the shop and if possible the sales person's name so they can do raid. When raid is complete and it's proven that the shop are selling counterfeit, then you'll be awarded the Get Genuine Kit to replace your current counterfeit installation.
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shop location is ok. But any reason we could use to get the sales person's name?

Usually the most we could get is alias only if we do not meet them for a brief period.
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Nov 11 2010, 09:29 AM)
shop location is ok. But any reason we could use to get the sales person's name?

Usually the most we could get is alias only if we do not meet them for a brief period.
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Well, I'm not sure, but most of the times, a specific sales person's name is not necessary. As long as the raid party can prove that the shop is selling counterfeit, they'll get sued.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Nov 10 2010, 11:52 AM)
If those users can prove that they're being sold counterfeit, complete with seller name and address of the shop etc, then Microsoft will provide them with an original copy of the OS.
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no such thing. you can only file a complain to TTPM and inform microsoft about it and it's up to their discretion with BSA whether or not to conduct the raid. but replacing the counterfeit with original copy is never their practice. the most you can get is the compensation after you filed the claim with TTPM and win the case.

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Nov 11 2010, 09:49 AM)
Well, I'm not sure, but most of the times, a specific sales person's name is not necessary. As long as the raid party can prove that the shop is selling counterfeit, they'll get sued.
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happy birthday FarCry3r

may i asking something?

i cant click tutorial win7 @ ur siggy

interested to read ur blog


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QUOTE(trinityz @ Nov 11 2010, 11:20 AM)
no such thing. you can only file a complain to TTPM and inform microsoft about it and it's up to their discretion with BSA whether or not to conduct the raid. but replacing the counterfeit with original copy is never their practice. the most you can get is the compensation after you filed the claim with TTPM and win the case.
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Really? Where's your source? I'm interested in reading it smile.gif

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happy birthday FarCry3r

may i asking something?

i cant click tutorial win7 @ ur siggy

interested to read ur blog
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Thanks smile.gif

The blog is in reconstruction, meanwhile, you can follow my Facebook too smile.gif
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Really? Where's your source? I'm interested in reading it smile.gif
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Nov 11 2010, 11:56 AM)
Really? Where's your source? I'm interested in reading it smile.gif
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we're distributor for IT products and we liaise closely with microsoft representative on software distribution. source good enough for you?

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QUOTE(trinityz @ Nov 11 2010, 04:25 PM)
we're distributor for IT products and we liaise closely with microsoft representative on software distribution. source good enough for you?
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Sounds good. But how can we verify your story?
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I do remembered back then about an article that reward users with genuine softwares if they can help with catching sellers that sell counterfeits but I can't seem to find that article anymore sad.gif

Nevertheless, Microsoft do rewards individuals that reports piracy in their company:

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here are the dealers that was caught with software piracy this month.
https://partner.microsoft.com/Malaysia/licensing/40038488

serve as reminder to all dealers who is reading this, do not sell pirated softwares.
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QUOTE(trinityz @ Nov 11 2010, 05:14 PM)
here are the dealers that was caught with software piracy this month.
https://partner.microsoft.com/Malaysia/licensing/40038488

serve as reminder to all dealers who is reading this, do not sell pirated softwares.
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Nice tip. I will spread this out.
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QUOTE(trinityz @ Nov 11 2010, 05:14 PM)
here are the dealers that was caught with software piracy this month.
https://partner.microsoft.com/Malaysia/licensing/40038488

serve as reminder to all dealers who is reading this, do not sell pirated softwares.
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yup.. hope all the seller will ensure customer get the original product.
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yup.. hope all the seller will ensure customer get the original product.
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hi...can i know how much the price of window7 home premium 32bit?
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hi...can i know how much the price of window7 home premium 32bit?
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OEM 32 bit sell for about RM 280
OEM 64 bits sell for about RM 290
Retail version sell for RM 369 like that. including both DVD.
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there are so many ppl selling keys only with good price,actually they just get the key from a software,what a scam!!!!!!
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 6 2010, 03:15 PM)
OEM 32 bit sell for about RM 280
OEM 64 bits sell for about RM 290
Retail version sell for RM 369 like that. including both DVD.
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owh...i survey at pc shops at kelantan n what i get:

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM= RM390 while retail RM450....

WTH!!!!! mad.gif mad.gif


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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Dec 8 2010, 02:21 AM)
owh...i survey at pc shops at kelantan n what i get:

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM= RM390 while retail RM450....

WTH!!!!! mad.gif  mad.gif
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i got found some seller selling with RM 150 only,OEM version
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i got found some seller selling with RM 150 only,OEM version
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i think its not ori...maybe its "ahem-like" OEM... laugh.gif

anyway..maybe its different on places....about transportation cost etc... nod.gif
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i think its not ori...maybe its "ahem-like" OEM... laugh.gif

anyway..maybe its different on places....about transportation cost etc... nod.gif
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i think they get the key from the loader,haiz mad.gif
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Dec 8 2010, 02:21 AM)
owh...i survey at pc shops at kelantan n what i get:

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM= RM390 while retail RM450....

WTH!!!!! mad.gif  mad.gif
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That is probably because no other sellers are selling Windows 7, or the competition is not that high. In KL, if you sell at that price, who's going to buy one from you? Thus the need to sell it at lower prices.


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i think they get the key from the loader,haiz mad.gif
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Loader key won't work with the normal OEM installer.

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I'm not sure where to post this but here goes.

I have a win7 pro serial key from MSDNAA website. The key is provided when I want to download the win7 file but for many days now, I can't download due to a load of errors.

I'm wondering, can I just get/download any other win7 pro iso and then use the serial key I have?
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Dec 8 2010, 02:21 AM)
owh...i survey at pc shops at kelantan n what i get:

Windows 7 Home Premium OEM= RM390 while retail RM450....

WTH!!!!! mad.gif  mad.gif
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It is business. If they do not cheat you with counterfeit windows while promising you genuine Windows, there is nothing illegal about it.

The bottomline is that for the OEM must check for the COA. For the retails ones, always bring a piece of the DVD to prove that you pay for it.
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This one looks suspicious...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1694665

Almost like the fake windows7 pictures in the first page except it's windows 7 Ultimate.


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QUOTE(n305er @ Dec 29 2010, 10:00 AM)
This one looks suspicious...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1694665

Almost like the fake windows7 pictures in the first page except it's windows 7 Ultimate.
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how can windows 7 ultimate be so cheaper...weird... hmm.gif
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This one looks suspicious...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1694665

Almost like the fake windows7 pictures in the first page except it's windows 7 Ultimate.
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Ingram Micro is a reputable supplier in Malaysia. It might be possible that the package might be RM50 cheaper than market price or more, depending how many units the seller buys as well.

My advice is that request for receipt when purchase and ask him about his details like the shop location and etc.

Anything can PM me.
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QUOTE(n305er @ Dec 29 2010, 10:00 AM)
This one looks suspicious...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1694665

Almost like the fake windows7 pictures in the first page except it's windows 7 Ultimate.
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I just put a reminder at that thread so people will be cautious about buying one.


Added on December 29, 2010, 11:57 am
QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 29 2010, 11:47 AM)
Ingram Micro is a reputable supplier in Malaysia. It might be possible that the package might be RM50 cheaper than market price or more, depending how many units the seller buys as well.

My advice is that request for receipt when purchase and ask him about his details like the shop location and etc.

Anything can PM me.
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Ingram Micro also is a reputable supplier in Singapore. The problem is... Take a look at the COA. Why would Ingram Micro (Malaysia) import so-called US version? Malaysia geo-lock version is much more cheaper than the International, no geo-lock version.

Plus there's no such thing as Made in USA as I dispute a while ago, only Made in Singapore for Asia region, and Made in Puerto Rico for the rest of the world that I know of. One member here claims that there is Made in USA version (and also claim he is a Microsoft staff), but when I ask him for proof, he just gone. No answers etc.

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Dec 29 2010, 11:50 AM)
I just put a reminder at that thread so people will be cautious about buying one.


Added on December 29, 2010, 11:57 am
Ingram Micro also is a reputable supplier in Singapore. The problem is... Take a look at the COA. Why would Ingram Micro (Malaysia) import so-called US version? Malaysia geo-lock version is much more cheaper than the International, no geo-lock version.

Plus there's no such thing as Made in USA as I dispute a while ago, only Made in Singapore for Asia region, and Made in Puerto Rico for the rest of the world that I know of. One member here claims that there is Made in USA version (and also claim he is a Microsoft staff), but when I ask him for proof, he just gone. No answers etc.
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Make sense as well. It remind me the fact that the windows over here can be activate in the SEA only.
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Guys, need some opinions here. Someone in FB (friend of friend) posted that her boss wanted to clear the stock for Win 7 ultimate. From the pics, I am not able to differentiate if the packs are original

user posted image

user posted image

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


If you have the fb accounts, you can see more pics and what are the deals to get these. See here. I am very sure these are bogus!

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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jan 6 2011, 08:23 AM)
Guys, need some opinions here. Someone in FB (friend of friend) posted that her boss wanted to clear the stock for Win 7 ultimate. From the pics, I am not able to differentiate if the packs are original

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


If you have the fb accounts, you can see more pics and what are the deals to get these. See here. I am very sure these are bogus!
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This is clearly the counterfeit one. Have you tried asking her where is her office? Perhaps I might come and get one for reference purpose of course! blush.gif
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2011, 08:44 AM)
This is clearly the counterfeit one. Have you tried asking her where is her office? Perhaps I might come and get one for reference purpose of course! blush.gif
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how u know this is counterfeit??mind sharing...refer to above post liao,but still rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 6 2011, 08:55 AM)
how u know this is counterfeit??mind sharing...refer to above post liao,but still  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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Take a look at the COA. There's no such thing as Made in USA as all Microsoft retail products are made in two places AFAIK, its either Puerto Rico or Singapore. Secondly, take a look at the security line on the left side of the COA, and compare it to the images on the first page. Thirdly, I don't know if it's caused by the poor lighting, but the holographic disc doesn't look that shiny. The reflective part of the disc seems... fade.

And one last point, if you as the seller, want to sell to Malaysian, or Singaporean, or any customers in SEA countries, why don't you buy the SEA geo-lock version? It's way cheaper than those International, non geo-lock version which doesn't make any sense, unless it's counterfeit.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2011, 09:08 AM)
Take a look at the COA. There's no such thing as Made in USA as all Microsoft retail products are made in two places AFAIK, its either Puerto Rico or Singapore. Secondly, take a look at the security line on the left side of the COA, and compare it to the images on the first page. Thirdly, I don't know if it's caused by the poor lighting, but the holographic disc doesn't look that shiny. The reflective part of the disc seems... fade.

And one last point, if you as the seller, want to sell to Malaysian, or Singaporean, or any customers in SEA countries, why don't you buy the SEA geo-lock version? It's way cheaper than those International, non geo-lock version which doesn't make any sense, unless it's counterfeit.
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oh i see...thx 4 useful info...will 'bump' ur post as my future reference... nod.gif
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QUOTE(wanfaris @ Jan 6 2011, 09:11 AM)
oh i see...thx 4 useful info...will 'bump' ur post as my future reference... nod.gif
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If you read the info from that FB album, the girl said that the stock were damaged etc etc, if it's were truly original, which cost thousands of RM, I don't think one would carelessly let the stuff damaged so easily.
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This is clearly the counterfeit one. Have you tried asking her where is her office? Perhaps I might come and get one for reference purpose of course! blush.gif
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Wow, so "kind" of you to buy such an expensive goods for reference purposes.
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Mostly retail packaging Windows Original are made in Puerto Rico..
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Wow, so "kind" of you to buy such an expensive goods for reference purposes.
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If it's not that "expensive", I will. I'm fascinated with those piraters that we able to copy almost 90% as same as original. Would keep one on my cabinet laugh.gif
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Hi guys. Got to know about this thread due to FarCry3r.

Was contacted by my bro's friend who happens to have a supply of windows 7 pro and office pro. His price is quite attractive thus i thought would be nice to put it on sale here.

As the characteristics of original microsoft software is new to me, i'm surprise to learn that the products he's suppling could be counterfeits. I'll be taking one unit from him to confirm whether the product is original or counterfeit.

From the pictures that he sent me, the label on the casing shows that it's Made In USA. According to information here, original products from Microsoft are either made in Puerto Rico or Singapore. I'll quiz him on it and if it turns out to be counterfeits, i guess i can say bye bye to him as a contact.

Btw, thanks FarCry3r for pointing this out. Could've gotten myself into big trouble. haha.
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Even if the microsoft product is original you still need to get it from VALID source.

According to Microsoft's License agreement, the license you get must be from valid microsoft reseller channel and can trace it back to microsoft. Or else it is still considered invalid. For eg, buying stolen original product.
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Jan 6 2011, 05:24 PM)
Hi guys. Got to know about this thread due to FarCry3r.

Was contacted by my bro's friend who happens to have a supply of windows 7 pro and office pro. His price is quite attractive thus i thought would be nice to put it on sale here.

As the characteristics of original microsoft software is new to me, i'm surprise to learn that the products he's suppling could be counterfeits. I'll be taking one unit from him to confirm whether the product is original or counterfeit.

From the pictures that he sent me, the label on the casing shows that it's Made In USA. According to information here, original products from Microsoft are either made in Puerto Rico or Singapore. I'll quiz him on it and if it turns out to be counterfeits, i guess i can say bye bye to him as a contact.

Btw, thanks FarCry3r for pointing this out. Could've gotten myself into big trouble. haha.
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If there's any pack opened, you can try to see if the "holographic" part of the disc can be peeled or not.
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QUOTE(StratOS @ Jan 6 2011, 10:24 AM)
Mostly retail packaging Windows Original are made in Puerto Rico..
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I am using a retail packaging of Windows 7 Home Premium MADE in Singapore. Why would Microsoft want to spend money to ship the Puerto Rico stocks here instead getting them from Singapore?

QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2011, 10:27 AM)
If it's not that "expensive", I will. I'm fascinated with those piraters that we able to copy almost 90% as same as original. Would keep one on my cabinet laugh.gif
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Even you have to let them make "profit"?

QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 6 2011, 05:52 PM)
Even if the microsoft product is original you still need to get it from VALID source.

According to Microsoft's License agreement, the license you get must be from valid microsoft reseller channel and can trace it back to microsoft. Or else it is still considered invalid. For eg, buying stolen original product.
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How buyers can check if the license they purchase is from a VAILD source?


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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2011, 07:34 PM)
If there's any pack opened, you can try to see if the "holographic" part of the disc can be peeled or not.
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When my father's friend accidentally bought a Nokia phone, the X6 model is not "manufactured" properly. Means you can see that it is not "sealed" or broken signs.

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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2011, 07:35 PM)
I am using a retail packaging of Windows 7 Home Premium MADE in Singapore. Why would Microsoft want to spend money to ship the Puerto Rico stocks here instead getting them from Singapore?
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He doesn't say that you necessarily get the source made in Puerto Rico, but yeah, MOST stocks came from Puerto Rico before Microsoft have a pressing facility in Singapore. Also, some products are not available in Singapore.


QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2011, 07:35 PM)
Even you have to let them make "profit"?
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Have any better way? I report, for sure I have no chance to get my hands on one, I blackmail them, later they came to my house and put red paint. So any better way?


QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2011, 07:35 PM)
How buyers can check if the license they purchase is from a VAILD source?
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What he mean is, where ever you bought the product, the source or supplier of the products must be one of Microsoft approved resellers, or that product might be a stolen one.

QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2011, 07:35 PM)
When my father's friend accidentally bought a Nokia phone, the X6 model is not "manufactured" properly. Means you can see that it is not "sealed" or broken signs.
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This is not the same anyway. Genuine disc have the holographic part "embedded" into the disc, not a sticker.

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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2011, 07:43 PM)
He doesn't say that you necessarily get the source made in Puerto Rico, but yeah, MOST stocks came from Puerto Rico before Microsoft have a pressing facility in Singapore. Also, some products are not available in Singapore.
Have any better way? I report, for sure I have no chance to get my hands on one, I blackmail them, later they came to my house and put red paint. So any better way?
What he mean is, where ever you bought the product, the source or supplier of the products must be one of Microsoft approved resellers, or that product might be a stolen one.
This is not the same anyway. Genuine disc have the holographic part "embedded" into the disc, not a sticker.
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I see.

Better way? Buy the fake unit from the person being cheated. At least, we provide relief for them and might be able to negotiate with them. Better off than buying from the cheaters. At the same time, you can hear their story as well. tongue.gif

Indeed. However, not all the shops around Malaysia selling the Windows is approved resellers. Sometimes, we just have to take chances in our life.
The main part is that the buyers should really think carefully when buying and make sure that if anything happens, they can find and held the sellers responsible.

About the Nokia phone, I forget to add the "fake" word. That fake Nokia phone have such a low quality compared to the original Nokia phone. I am not sure how to describe it, so next time when i get my hands on it, I will open a thread in the Mobile phone section.
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2011, 08:37 PM)
I see.

Better way? Buy the fake unit from the person being cheated. At least, we provide relief for them and might be able to negotiate with them. Better off than buying from the cheaters. At the same time, you can hear their story as well. tongue.gif
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Anyone have bought the counterfeit one? I'm afraid most doesn't even realize they're buying fakes sweat.gif


QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2011, 08:37 PM)
Indeed. However, not all the shops around Malaysia selling the Windows is approved resellers. Sometimes, we just have to take chances in our life.
The main part is that the buyers should really think carefully when buying and make sure that if anything happens, they can find and held the sellers responsible.
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Yes, but not all users are aware, so I help whenever I can.


QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2011, 08:37 PM)
About the Nokia phone, I forget to add the "fake" word. That fake Nokia phone have such a low quality compared to the original Nokia phone. I am not sure how to describe it, so next time when i get my hands on it, I will open a thread in the Mobile phone section.
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Ahhh, there's no need. I've already seen those fake phones so many times. The problem is, to many peoples in rural area, they can't differentiate the fakes one until someone told them so.
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Lets say that the 'Made in USA' DVDs are using the stolen keys, technically the activation mostly succeeded unless certain keys been blacklisted from the data base. From several ppl I met, they used the key for many months without any problem and passed all the updates. The keys are correct technically, but illegally obtained it. Am I right here?

We can check at bulk section, 'made in USA' are traded under the direct bright sun light. Anyway, can someone provide me the links that other than these 2 countries SG and Puerto Rico, others if any are counterfeit. Thanks.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jan 6 2011, 08:50 PM)
Am I right here?
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jan 6 2011, 08:50 PM)
We can check at bulk section, 'made in USA' are traded under the direct bright sun light. Anyway, can someone provide me the links that other than these 2 countries SG and Puerto Rico, others if any are counterfeit. Thanks.
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Really? I must have missed this as most of bulk subforum sales are for hard disk/thumbdrives/etc. I'll take a look there. There's no link(s) to prove that if it's made in other than those 2 countries, it's fake, but then again, there's also no proof that if it's made in other than those 2 countries, it's genuine. It's a logic decision here. Microsoft only have two disc pressing facility, in Puerto Rico and Singapore, so where does other countries get them? If you read back pages, there's one member claimed to be a Microsoft staff (machaclan), saying he did encounter products with label Made in USA. When I asked for proof, he just giving excuses like it's Merdeka holiday and then Raya holiday blablabla and just disappear.
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both my threads are closed. Will be getting a set from the supplier to check on authenticity.


Added on January 7, 2011, 8:19 amFarcry3r, would you be able to ascertain the authenticity of the microsoft products if i'm able to provide you a copy of the retail pack? I'm also interested to find out if it's original or counterfeit. According to my contact, he says many have bought without problems but did not give any further assurance on the authenticity.

I can confirm that all his stocks come with "Made in USA" sticker.


Added on January 7, 2011, 8:19 amFarcry3r, would you be able to ascertain the authenticity of the microsoft products if i'm able to provide you a copy of the retail pack? I'm also interested to find out if it's original or counterfeit. According to my contact, he says many have bought without problems but did not give any further assurance on the authenticity.

I can confirm that all his stocks come with "Made in USA" sticker.

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nice info...
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Anyone have bought the counterfeit one? I'm afraid most doesn't even realize they're buying fakes sweat.gif
Yes, but not all users are aware, so I help whenever I can.
Ahhh, there's no need. I've already seen those fake phones so many times. The problem is, to many peoples in rural area, they can't differentiate the fakes one until someone told them so.
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I see. It is good to hear that.


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QUOTE(raist86 @ Jan 6 2011, 10:51 PM)
Farcry3r, would you be able to ascertain the authenticity of the microsoft products if i'm able to provide you a copy of the retail pack? I'm also interested to find out if it's original or counterfeit. According to my contact, he says many have bought without problems but did not give any further assurance on the authenticity.

I can confirm that all his stocks come with "Made in USA" sticker.
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Yes I can. If it's counterfeit, the proof of it should be both physically and virtually. Physically means the COA looks fake, the holographic part of the disc can be peeled off, where the virtual part would be the Product Key itself even though will pass activation, most likely it's from MSDN subsription, which there's a tool to check it out.

QUOTE(raist86 @ Jan 6 2011, 10:51 PM)
According to my contact, he says many have bought without problems but did not give any further assurance on the authenticity.
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That's what those all counterfeiter says, also those who are using Product Keys from MSDN/TechNet subscriptions. They all pass genuine check, but there's no support from Microsoft and didn't adhere to the MSDN/TechNet EULA which didn't allow them to sell those keys.
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I guess i had the unfortunate luck of getting into contact with the guy (my bro's friend...). Apparently he cannot provide a unit for testing and wants me to buy a set instead..

What are the chances that he'll sell me one ori set, and when that's confirm, unload a bunch of crap counterfeits on the other others.

Sigh.. and i thought it'd be solid lead just because he's close to my bro..
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Jan 14 2011, 03:07 PM)
I guess i had the unfortunate luck of getting into contact with the guy (my bro's friend...). Apparently he cannot provide a unit for testing and wants me to buy a set instead..

What are the chances that he'll sell me one ori set, and when that's confirm, unload a bunch of crap counterfeits on the other others.

Sigh.. and i thought it'd be solid lead just because he's close to my bro..
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Well, sorry to hear that, but some peoples just want shortcut to becoming rich without considering anything. If you're still buying, make sure he sent you the one like in the picture, which should be the counterfeit one.
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Jan 14 2011, 03:07 PM)
I guess i had the unfortunate luck of getting into contact with the guy (my bro's friend...). Apparently he cannot provide a unit for testing and wants me to buy a set instead..

What are the chances that he'll sell me one ori set, and when that's confirm, unload a bunch of crap counterfeits on the other others.

Sigh.. and i thought it'd be solid lead just because he's close to my bro..
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"Close" does not means he might not cheat you.

I always try to distinguish the genuine friend and friends who only get close to me just for the sake of exploiting me.

Just try to get a few sets of it to verify it.

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one set about rm 350... a few sets is like couple thousand wei...

*search for microsoft contact to sponsor the sting operation*....
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one set about rm 350... a few sets is like couple thousand wei...

*search for microsoft contact to sponsor the sting operation*....
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Which version he is selling you for that price?
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win 7 pro.
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QUOTE(raist86 @ Jan 14 2011, 11:40 PM)
one set about rm 350... a few sets is like couple thousand wei...

*search for microsoft contact to sponsor the sting operation*....
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RM350 should only able to get Windows 7 Home Premium retail (Geo-lock version), more or less. Windows 7 Professional (Geo-lock) should cost around RM450-550. The international version price are RM780 (Newegg/Amazon) or RM900 (Microsoft Store). The differences are too much IMO.
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alamak..aku dah kena tipu ke ni??

lelong http://www.lelong.com.my/windows-7-ultimat...11-01-Std-P.htm

adey, mana la aku tau..
nsib bik ak x bayar lagi..

mcm mana ye sekarang?..kalau bayar ak yg rugi..
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QUOTE(sollehudin @ Jan 17 2011, 05:34 PM)
alamak..aku dah kena tipu ke ni??

lelong http://www.lelong.com.my/windows-7-ultimat...11-01-Std-P.htm

adey, mana la aku tau..
nsib bik ak x bayar lagi..

mcm mana ye sekarang?..kalau bayar ak yg rugi..
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QUOTE(Reign @ Feb 23 2011, 11:23 AM)
Windows 7 stater have in CD? I only had CD-ROM Drive. moneyflies.gif
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Yes I can. If it's counterfeit, the proof of it should be both physically and virtually. Physically means the COA looks fake, the holographic part of the disc can be peeled off, where the virtual part would be the Product Key itself even though will pass activation, most likely it's from MSDN subsription, which there's a tool to check it out.
That's what those all counterfeiter says, also those who are using Product Keys from MSDN/TechNet subscriptions. They all pass genuine check, but there's no support from Microsoft and didn't adhere to the MSDN/TechNet EULA which didn't allow them to sell those keys.
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QUOTE(alien3d @ Mar 16 2011, 06:40 AM)
When i been asked to reactived windows xp.They ask the tiny number at the back of the cd.Nowdays do no.Pirate might not create the number ,holygrahic maybe.
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What number? Those X13-XXXXXXX stuff?
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QUOTE(Reign @ Feb 23 2011, 11:23 AM)
Windows 7 stater have in CD? I only had CD-ROM Drive. moneyflies.gif
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now internal drive is quite cheap? else go to office PC or ask someone to transfer to USB drive.
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now internal drive is quite cheap? else go to office PC or ask someone to transfer to USB drive.
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Which shop is selling genuine Windows 7 Ultimate ?
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Which shop is selling genuine Windows 7 Ultimate ?
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I guess those business with shoplot won't involve in this kind of scam and smart enough to avoid it.
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Mar 31 2011, 01:13 AM)
I guess those business with shoplot won't involve in this kind of scam and smart enough to avoid it.
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What is the cheapest price for Windows 7 Ultimate now ?
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What is the cheapest price for Windows 7 Ultimate now ?
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OEM ones should be around Rm600 like that and the Retail version is about around Rm690 like that.
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How about this one : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1787960&hl= ?
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Mar 31 2011, 06:29 PM)
I suggest that you get it from the official channel despite it is more expensive.

Check your PM.
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where is the proper shop to get 100% genuine win 7?
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where is the proper shop to get 100% genuine win 7?
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Business with the proper shoplot should be smart enough to avoid it, but it is hard to say though. Where are you?
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In KL or PJ area where are the genuine copies? lowyat mall have proper microsoft store?
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QUOTE(Justeafy @ Apr 2 2011, 10:02 PM)
In KL or PJ area where are the genuine copies? lowyat mall have proper microsoft store?
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Mine was quite fast, I purchased/download my office 2010 with backup disc on the 29th 3am and they shipped out my disc on the 29th morning itself through Singapore warehouse via DHL and reached me on the 30th.

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HAHA!!!!

BECAREFUL !!!!!

PLEASE OPEN WWW.LELONG.COM.MY >

please type windows 7 ultimate , then search>

you can see many COUNTERFEIT Windows 7 Retail BOX,

the resonable price must be above RM600....
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QUOTE(jack2002 @ Apr 6 2011, 03:23 PM)
HAHA!!!!

BECAREFUL !!!!!

PLEASE OPEN WWW.LELONG.COM.MY >

please type windows 7 ultimate , then search>

you can see many COUNTERFEIT Windows 7 Retail BOX,

the resonable price must be above RM600....
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Apr 6 2011, 03:36 PM)
Doesn't need to be above RM600, but if the price is too ridiculously low, then beware.
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if it is a counterfeit, can it be activated online???
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what about this?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1816757
everything seems legit, except of the wording 'Origin: Ireland'

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QUOTE(hamiru @ Apr 12 2011, 03:41 AM)
what about this?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1816757
everything seems legit, except of the wording 'Origin: Ireland'
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It is not normal to see that. Did the seller provide anymore information? hmm.gif
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not that i know of, since i didn't deal with him

as which also happened to me, i've won a bid to this counterfeit Windows 7 Ultimate

although i've lost some money, it could be worse if the seller actually sell the counterfeit software for the original's price

this video clearly show how to detect such counterfeit software


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QUOTE(hamiru @ Apr 13 2011, 01:13 PM)
not that i know of, since i didn't deal with him

as which also happened to me, i've won a bid to this counterfeit Windows 7 Ultimate

although i've lost some money, it could be worse if the seller actually sell the counterfeit software for the original's price

this video clearly show how to detect such counterfeit software


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i saw someone selling windows 7 ultimate + ms office 2010 pro plus for rm200. claiming it is msdn version. is it legit?
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i saw someone selling windows 7 ultimate + ms office 2010 pro plus for rm200. claiming it is msdn version. is it legit?
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wahlau...now oni i knw Windows 7 also got fake one ar???
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wahlau...now oni i knw Windows 7 also got fake one ar???
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Even eggs that is sold at RM10.80 also got people wanted to fake it and sell it at a higher price.

Which 1 is not possible? doh.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Apr 13 2011, 04:28 PM)
Lost some money? Mind to share your story here?
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won a bid for this counterfeit item in lelong for RM121. i never knew such counterfeit item exists here, until i saw this thread
even Microsoft Office has its counterfeit version. most of them have this Ingram Micro yellow label as well
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QUOTE(hamiru @ Apr 17 2011, 08:56 AM)
won a bid for this counterfeit item in lelong for RM121. i never knew such counterfeit item exists here, until i saw this thread
even Microsoft Office has its counterfeit version. most of them have this Ingram Micro yellow label as well
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Yes, from what I saw around, the two most counterfeited products are Windows 7 Ultimate and Office 2010 Professional.
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Due to that I always remind my friends to avoid any cheapo ultimate edition unless they intend to buy from valid and legal sources.
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Yes, from what I saw around, the two most counterfeited products are Windows 7 Ultimate and Office 2010 Professional.
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Apr 17 2011, 07:10 PM)
Due to that I always remind my friends to avoid any cheapo ultimate edition unless they intend to buy from valid and legal sources.
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Legal sources?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Apr 17 2011, 08:37 PM)
Legal sources?
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generally I meant something from microsoft itself or it's associate that involved in selling their products. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Apr 17 2011, 10:36 PM)
generally I meant something from microsoft itself or it's associate that involved in selling their products.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(machaclan @ Aug 30 2010, 01:56 AM)
just wanted to correct you. i work for microsoft

these are the corrections :

1) Ingram Micro is an authorised distributor of Microsoft products. There are boxes of Microsoft products with 'Ingram Micro' labels which are genuine. Some may be fake....i have never come across them before in all my working years in Microsoft.

2) Microsoft products are also produced in the USA. CoA with 'made in USA' may be genuine....not all are fake.

the only difference to differenciate genuine and fake would be the silvery part of the CoA......the pictures showing the difference between genuine and fake silvery part of the CoA are all CORRECT.
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I can tell you that if you did not open up the shrink wrap be it you work for Microsoft or you OWN Microsoft you wont be able to tell the difference. From what i encounter is ALL Made In USA is a fake product. I bought 20 of Win 7 Pro Retail Pack. Mind you ALL CAN BE ACTIVATE, but after few days or weeks of usage, the non-genuine will pop out. A call to Microsoft they said that the "key had been blacklisted" Few other of the key cannot be activated, after a call to Microsoft they said that they key cannot be use in other region except US. Few more other is actually MSDN key which when u call microsoft to activate, they ask for your MSDN account. How in the hell is MSDN key can be sell in retail pack?

To me, once i encounter those "made in us" microsoft product, i will not buy them. I dare not risk it. Most of the microsoft product i buy now is "made in sg or puerto rico"

To all buyer or seller out there. Please be very aware of what you are buying. As the outer pack might deceive you. If you can open and check the installation disc then you know which is genuine which is not. Genuine disc is having the printed "embedded" into the disc. while fake 1 you can "feel" like a sticker is stick over the disc.
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I can tell you that if you did not open up the shrink wrap be it you work for Microsoft or you OWN Microsoft you wont be able to tell the difference. From what i encounter is ALL Made In USA is a fake product. I bought 20 of Win 7 Pro Retail Pack. Mind you ALL CAN BE ACTIVATE, but after few days or weeks of usage, the non-genuine will pop out. A call to Microsoft they said that the "key had been blacklisted" Few other of the key cannot be activated, after a call to Microsoft they said that they key cannot be use in other region except US. Few more other is actually MSDN key which when u call microsoft to activate, they ask for your MSDN account. How in the hell is MSDN key can be sell in retail pack?

To me, once i encounter those "made in us" microsoft product, i will not buy them. I dare not risk it. Most of the microsoft product i buy now is "made in sg or puerto rico"

To all buyer or seller out there. Please be very aware of what you are buying. As the outer pack might deceive you. If you can open and check the installation disc then you know which is genuine which is not. Genuine disc is having the printed "embedded" into the disc. while fake 1 you can "feel" like a sticker is stick over the disc.
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Phew~

Last time got people try to tempt me about this. Fortunately, I reject it. tongue.gif

Windows distributed in US also cannot be activated in other parts of world like SEA?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Apr 19 2011, 11:56 AM)
Phew~

Last time got people try to tempt me about this. Fortunately, I reject it. tongue.gif

Windows distributed in US also cannot be activated in other parts of world like SEA?
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For OEM pack it definately unable to activate. For Retail, i'm not really sure but supposingly it should able to. But if you getting a SEA genuine retail pack you'll c something written there "to be sold and distribute in SEA region" or something like tat...

Currently what i had encounter is Win 7 Pro, Win 7 Ulti, Off 2010 Pro (all retail pack) made in US are fake. I'll try to post the fake win 7 pro photo i had on hand but it is difficult to differentiate by photo. You can only look at the real thing only you can know.
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Yup asian Windows 7 Ultimate are able to activate only in SEA except Singapore. Do not buy anything with Made in USA if possible.

There is another way of selling keys with fake CD, that is with EA licensing key or open license keys. Those keys if used massively will be blacklisted later on by Microsoft rendering your key useless and in effect the $ you spend will be wasted for nothing.

So far, the only genuine retail for Ultimate will be only able to activate in SEA type if you buy in Malaysia, and it must have the TULEN KPDHN (dunno the real name) logo in it. Confirm ori.

I sold 2 units extra and I give my buyers $ double back guarentee if the pack + key is counterfeit but no stock liao for now. Can guarentee u after 2-3 years you come back still the key is authentic.

For OEM, u will have to bear your own risk. OEM is not suppose to sell to consumer, but they have thier ways. Cheers.
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how does one gets the MSDN version of the Windows 7 Ultimate?
lately i saw many selling MSDN version of Windows 7 Ultimate bundled with Microsoft Office 2010 Pro for only RM200 each.
i thought those MSDN version are only available online?
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QUOTE(hamiru @ Apr 20 2011, 01:32 PM)
how does one gets the MSDN version of the Windows 7 Ultimate?
lately i saw many selling MSDN version of Windows 7 Ultimate bundled with Microsoft Office 2010 Pro for only RM200 each.
i thought those MSDN version are only available online?
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Those sellers only sell you the cd-key, no original end-to-end holographic disc, no box and packaging, and the most important one is there's no COA to prove that your copy of Windows is legit. So just avoid buying them at all cost. And oh, report them when you can smile.gif
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Holy sh*t. I just bought a counterfeit copy of Windows 7 in lelong. vmad.gif cry.gif

Lelong should ban those sellers who sell counterfeited items! mad.gif
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QUOTE(steven789 @ Apr 20 2011, 05:21 PM)
Holy sh*t. I just bought a counterfeit copy of Windows 7 in lelong.  vmad.gif  cry.gif

Lelong should ban those sellers who sell counterfeited items!  mad.gif
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Last week I won a bid @lelong for microsoft office 2010 pro. The seller is verified seller and rating is 100% good.

However when I received the packaging quickly I know it was a counterfeit product. I was able to do side-by-side comparison with my original copy of Student & Home Office 2010.

I made one bad comment to his lelong profile stating about his fake product. Few minutes later the seller called me asking me to retract that bad comment and willing to refund my money.

I got my money back.

People please beware. I've learned my lesson biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(locco81 @ May 5 2011, 08:56 PM)
Last week I won a bid @lelong for microsoft office 2010 pro. The seller is verified seller and rating is 100% good.

However when I received the packaging quickly I know it was a counterfeit product. I was able to do side-by-side comparison with my original copy of Student & Home Office 2010.

I made one bad comment to his lelong profile stating about his fake product. Few minutes later the seller called me asking me to retract that bad comment and willing to refund my money.

I got my money back.

People please beware. I've learned my lesson biggrin.gif
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like this, buy from All IT/PC Zone/C-Zone need to double check? lol
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like this, buy from All IT/PC Zone/C-Zone need to double check? lol
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The risk should be much lesser. Most of the cheated user buy cheaply from unknown and unreliable sources.

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so many fake windows 7 ultimate out there, care
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Eggs selling for 10 ringgit like that also got people wanna fake it. rclxub.gif What's more for the RMXXX Microsoft product? rclxub.gif
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I found this when searching eBay US:

user posted image

The same counterfeit like one TS posted, except that this is for Microsoft Office 2010. Link below goes to the listing on eBay, but too bad the seller didn't go into details about his purchase or anything:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Microsoft-Office-Yeah-...d#ht_500wt_1156
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Details from the unfortune buyer to me at eBay:

QUOTE(Unfortunate eBayer)
Hello,
I really don't have any additional pictures that could help you as they are extremely difficult to differentiate from the legit software it's unbelievable.
  
I had purchased probably seven of the office professional 10 version at a good price and sold them for a good price. One of the buyers received a package which when opened looked like the one I show in the photograph. The hologram actually a decal was peeling from the disk.
  
The box looks real never opened everything appears real, one thing that people from Microsoft told me is that over 90% of the software originating from China is pirated and the rest well it isn't that great either. There are little things that can give it away as in my case they had me look on the side of the box to see where it was made. It said "made in the USA" that apparently was an indication of what was inside, it should have said made in Puerto Rico, go figure?
  
I found the people from Microsoft very helpful you can reach the antipiracy group at 1-800-785-3448
they also have a website which is at Microsoft.com/piracy
there you will see quite a few pictures and hints to help you.
Yesterday I went out and purchased the office home and business edition for close to $400 with taxes! At these prices no wonder people are willing to purchase pirated software I mean you can buy a PC for $400.
  
Good luck
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Too bad he didn't or won't give out pictures of the counterfeit package. sad.gif

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nice info...few days ago, i see few ppl selling windows 7 ultimate at rm200...& their box 'looks' genuine... i cant believe it


Added on May 30, 2011, 2:08 pmI saw at facebook...my friends tagged..so i saw that picture..its too cheap for ultimate at price rm200

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QUOTE(Ulysses @ May 30 2011, 02:07 PM)
nice info...few days ago, i see few ppl selling windows 7 ultimate at rm200...& their box 'looks' genuine... i cant believe it


Added on May 30, 2011, 2:08 pmI saw at facebook...my friends tagged..so i saw that picture..its too cheap for ultimate at price rm200
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QUOTE(Ulysses @ May 30 2011, 02:07 PM)
nice info...few days ago, i see few ppl selling windows 7 ultimate at rm200...& their box 'looks' genuine... i cant believe it


Added on May 30, 2011, 2:08 pmI saw at facebook...my friends tagged..so i saw that picture..its too cheap for ultimate at price rm200
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so, this one's a fake/counterfeit ?

W7 Ult, sold at lelong
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so, this one's a fake/counterfeit ?

W7 Ult, sold at lelong
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This kind of selling should be reported to BSA immediately...

For lelong, use report button given...
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post Jun 12 2011, 05:33 PM

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How about this one in garage sales, retail is not and not the OEM either?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1541770/+220
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QUOTE(andears99 @ May 31 2011, 02:49 PM)
The expensive things is won't become so cheap for selling...Be smart on buying things
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Just because it is online, an item outside costs RM380 become RM200? I wonder why people do not ask this kind of simply question. Good Post.


QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jun 12 2011, 05:33 PM)
How about this one in garage sales, retail is not and not the OEM either?

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1541770/+220
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Eh, why redirect to this same page?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jun 12 2011, 05:41 PM)
Just because it is online, an item outside costs RM380 become RM200? I wonder why people do not ask this kind of simply question. Good Post.
Eh, why redirect to this same page?
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wrongly pasted then... tongue.gif here's the correct link http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1915089
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QUOTE(powerwoot @ Jun 12 2011, 05:47 PM)
wrongly pasted then...  tongue.gif here's the correct link http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1915089
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Retails allow you to transfer the license legally. In this case, it does not explained properly whether it is OEM or Retail. If it is retail, it should be fine to transfer.

If it is OEM, Microsoft can prevent you from activating the license.
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-Here's an official guide from Microsoft Malaysia to identify whether it's really genuine or not (refer to page #2): http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/4...B9/consumer.pdf. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Musafir_86 @ Jun 22 2011, 08:38 AM)
-Here's an official guide from Microsoft Malaysia to identify whether it's really genuine or not (refer to page #2): http://download.microsoft.com/download/6/4...B9/consumer.pdf. smile.gif

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Whats Retail box mean?
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post Jun 26 2011, 06:20 PM

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Retail Counterfeit can online activate or not??
is it a crack??
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Retail Counterfeit can online activate or not??
is it a crack??
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Some of them can, but it won't last long before user run into problem with the Microsoft updates.
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is there a way to check whether the coa serial is ori or pirated
before buying?
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post Jul 5 2011, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(cloudclone @ Jul 4 2011, 11:19 PM)
is there a way to check whether the coa serial is ori or pirated
before buying?
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Just check the COA. If it's genuine then you don't have anything to worry about.
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post Jul 6 2011, 06:49 PM

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Better check it first before buying............
Prevention is better than cure............
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Oct 6 2010, 12:36 AM)
For toshiba, that is the problem. shakehead.gif

I have to tell my friend to help me to do the recovery backup image once he have installed the all the softwares to ensures that next time when my friend want to format the laptop, he still have an image to restore his Genuine windows 7. The only piece of backup avaliable to him. doh.gif

Forget to do? Say goodbye to your Genuine Windows 7 if you format it without having a backup image to DVD.
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suppose they should has give the key code and COA when selling the ori thing...mostly it is attach at bottom of the laptop..


Added on July 7, 2011, 12:50 am
QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Apr 19 2011, 11:56 AM)
Phew~

Last time got people try to tempt me about this. Fortunately, I reject it. tongue.gif

Windows distributed in US also cannot be activated in other parts of world like SEA?
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windows 7 distributed in the US is not region lock (hence the price is much higher). SEA edition is region locked version same as jap edition and chinese edition.... all can be activated by calling microsoft service center to activate..with reason as long it is genuine..eg buy from US store and want to activate the OS

every windows 7 ultimate PID(product ID) with 065, 066, or 067 is MSDN eg xxxxx-067-xxxxxxx-xxxxx

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the counterfeit product looks so real to me. thanks for the post as i nearly buy one online and i will look for ditributor not.. hehe also dunno how to find.. nvm will search for it later.

thanks
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QUOTE(zaman_chem @ Jul 7 2011, 12:20 AM)
suppose they should has give the key code and COA when selling the ori thing...mostly it is attach at bottom of the laptop..
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Well, fair enough they give the code, but where i am suppose to find the OEM software installation files? Install using pirated copy and activate using the genuine key? rclxub.gif

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Thanks for the info mate live in United Kingdom bought Win 7 ultimate off ebay thought he bought in bulk so could afford to sell cheaper,only found out i had a counterfeit when i tried to reacrivate it on my upgraded hdd.Said the key was blocked phoned up Microsoft UK and they said it was msdn checked the disc properly and yeah it has a sticker.Feel so angry and stupid i got fooled thx for this site and your time and effort Farcry 3r and the rest of the members especially seanatro for youtube video and Pics good job
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QUOTE(Belboy70 @ Jul 17 2011, 10:25 AM)
Thanks for the info mate live in United Kingdom bought Win 7 ultimate off ebay thought he bought in bulk so could afford to sell cheaper,only found out i had a counterfeit when i tried to reacrivate it on my upgraded hdd.Said the key was blocked phoned up Microsoft UK and they said it was msdn checked the disc properly and yeah it has a sticker.Feel so angry and stupid i got fooled thx for this site and your time and effort Farcry 3r and the rest of the members especially seanatro for youtube video and Pics good job
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Sorry to hear about that, but have you file a complaint at eBay? hmm.gif
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post Jul 28 2011, 03:07 AM

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waaaah! Like this also can???
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QUOTE(adibyusoff @ Jul 28 2011, 03:07 AM)
waaaah! Like this also can???
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If counterfeit like that costs less than RM150, but can earn more than that, people surely do one and cheat people wanted to buy cheap "Genuine" Windows. doh.gif
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Another website selling counterfeit Microsoft softwares/OSes. Found this site while browsing through the Bulk Order subforum.

The thread is here, posted by user named kingcool086.

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So this is new, all these while I only hear about counterfeit Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate, but this time, it's Windows 7 Home Premium. I guess those two earlier fakes didn't hit the jackpot eh? laugh.gif

Oh, I even have a little chat with their "Live help", check it out below: laugh.gif

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David  15:30:04
Hello, is there any need I can do to help you?
David  15:29:57
hi

I  15:30:43
hi

I  15:30:55
so these softwares, are they genuine?

David  15:31:15
windows software and office  can activate online. RosettaStone  is full cracked software.

David  15:32:03
so,what types of software are you looking for?

I  15:33:17
why are you guys selling pirated softwares? you are aware that pirated softwares can be downloaded for free right?

David  15:34:25
excuse me ,,,,friend ,i can not follow you well.   did you buy our product before?  how could you say it is pirtated product?   if pirated,  can you register and activate online?

I  15:35:58
didnt you said earlier that Rosetta Stone is cracked? Cracked <> pirated?

David  15:37:17
I am sorry , Yes this product is so.  but as your know, there are many Apple product also cracked by American. and ,as i know ,this is better for the user.....of course this is not right way.  if no body needs, i think ,cracked itself has nothing wrong,right?

I  15:39:19
sure if its not wrong, why put a price tag on it? $100 for a cracked software? you got to be kidding me right?

David  15:40:08
Dear, i am not kidding . price are made by company,  and our price is adjusting according to the market.

David  15:40:38
by the way,  our price is very good comparing with other supplier.

I  15:44:07
If you're providing original, genuine, non-cracked, non-pirated software at a competitive price, I can understand that. But right now, Rosetta Stone in your listing, at $100 is a cracked, pirated software, so why the price tag?

I  15:45:01
I can get a 1 month filesharing premium account at $10 and download the cracked Rosetta Stone plus much more other cracked/pirated softwares, and I STILL save $90 smile.gif

David  15:46:58
i see.  but not everyone could by the keys availablely and knwo where download the available data inside.  sir,   about Rosettastone,  you are talking with, do you wanna buy?

David  15:47:37
if the price is the big problem for you , i could negotiate with boss.

I  15:48:24
nope, since its pirated, i'd only buy one if I can confirm its original

David  15:48:11
and if you think this is pirated product, and cannt accept it ..... then the best way is 10 USD case.

David  15:49:45
friend, frankly,  Rosettastone is only a stuy software, keys for you just unlock the courses inside the system, then ,it is usless.   if you need good software, please try to purschase our windows 7 ,or office product.

I  15:50:48
oh by the way, your Windows 7 Home Premium pictured is a counterfeit too smile.gif

I  15:51:17
I just need to ask, if I were to buy Windows 7 or Office software, what do I get?

David  15:51:15
lol~~you just think you are god~~friend, you never try , you know everything.

I  15:52:19
I'm not god, just a normal person smile.gif

David  15:53:05
I dont think it is easy for us to establish business relationship.... Cuz before you get goods, you said no no no.these are pirated product, how could i have any confidence to do such business with you ?——we require payment by TT, or western union.  no paypal... paypal is made for cheaters.

I  15:54:19
Ahhhh, didn't they always said, customers is right? No?

David  15:54:26
the best way for us, is you come to visit us in our office, and i test the product for you face to face,...after you know the test result, maybe you say yes /

I  15:55:22
and where your office located at? would love to drop by when I have a chance smile.gif

David  15:55:14
i respect customers ,but i know what it right, i just wanna prove it to you .

David  15:55:33
welcome,!

David  15:56:07
room 603,Haogong building, yannan Road no 5. Futian District, Shenzhen.

I  15:56:54
Oh my, that's far. I'm in the USA :/

David  15:57:03
earth is not big on current times,

David  15:57:08
friend, you could by air.

I  15:58:12
Oh well, I guess I can, so see you soon smile.gif


quite funny tbh laugh.gif and these guys doesn't fear anything, even invited me go there and check lol laugh.gif laugh.gif

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...aaaaaanddd another new counterfeit product, this time it's Microsoft SQL Server 2008 R2 Standard Edition (eBay).

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I bought a PC with original Windows 7. But the retail box seemed to be... weird... My friends
said that it's genuine. It's just a white box with a lot of warnings written on it, and it's made in Malaysia, but inside with the CD and manuals, all alike. I think it's the OEM version...?
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QUOTE(winkiedilwy @ Aug 8 2011, 11:02 AM)
I bought a PC with original Windows 7. But the retail box seemed to be... weird... My friends
said that it's genuine. It's just a white box with a lot of warnings written on it, and it's made in Malaysia, but inside with the CD and manuals, all alike. I think it's the OEM version...?
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From what you said, it's definitely the OEM version.
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QUOTE(winkiedilwy @ Aug 8 2011, 11:02 AM)
I bought a PC with original Windows 7. But the retail box seemed to be... weird... My friends
said that it's genuine. It's just a white box with a lot of warnings written on it, and it's made in Malaysia, but inside with the CD and manuals, all alike. I think it's the OEM version...?
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Mind snapping the picture for the Windows DVD?
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u guys think this SOB is selling counterfeit shitz?
http://www.mudah.my/Microsoft+windows+7+Ho...um-10888299.htm
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u guys think this SOB is selling counterfeit shitz?
http://www.mudah.my/Microsoft+windows+7+Ho...um-10888299.htm
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That's quite obvious isn't it? smile.gif


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Luckily my Windows 7 Home Premium comes bundled with my new Acer Laptop.....
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Aug 4 2011, 04:13 PM)
Another website selling counterfeit Microsoft softwares/OSes. Found this site while browsing through the Bulk Order subforum.

The thread is here, posted by user named kingcool086.

user posted image

So this is new, all these while I only hear about counterfeit Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate, but this time, it's Windows 7 Home Premium. I guess those two earlier fakes didn't hit the jackpot eh? laugh.gif

Oh, I even have a little chat with their "Live help", check it out below: laugh.gif
quite funny tbh laugh.gif and these guys doesn't fear anything, even invited me go there and check lol laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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I have a question.
This counterfeit version comes with serial key?
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New update, it seems like the counterfeiters are expanding their businesses to the Mac section of Microsoft Office products, just spotted this in Garage Sales today:

Microsoft Office for Mac 2011

Seems like things are getting out of hands here.
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bought one , microsoft claim it was illegal .
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QUOTE(xken @ Sep 20 2011, 03:57 PM)
sighhhhh..... report him xD
And yet all the ads from that guy is still there.
Mudah is ignoring all the reports because that guy has a PRO Niaga account.
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can someone help me to verify this, seller send me this
made in sg???
picture here
http://imageshack.us/f/202/photonxu.jpg/
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QUOTE(lee-turbo-hks @ Dec 31 2011, 01:14 AM)
can someone help me to verify this, seller send me this
made in sg???
picture here
http://imageshack.us/f/202/photonxu.jpg/
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It seems to me that this unit is a used unit.
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QUOTE(lee-turbo-hks @ Dec 31 2011, 01:14 AM)
can someone help me to verify this, seller send me this
made in sg???
picture here
http://imageshack.us/f/202/photonxu.jpg/
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COA seems legit, but the printed text somehow seems... hmm.gif
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so should i take the risk???
selling at SGD300
otherwise i wil just get from amazon
any other place to get???
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QUOTE(lee-turbo-hks @ Dec 31 2011, 11:48 AM)
so should i take the risk???
selling at SGD300
otherwise i wil just get from amazon
any other place to get???
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SGD 300? Ultimate version? Retail version?Sounds like a little bit expensive for me...
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Dec 31 2011, 03:00 PM)
SGD 300? Ultimate version? Retail version?Sounds like a little bit expensive for me...
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Expensive? Singapore version isn't the same as the one MY is using, MY version is geo-locked and not available in Singapore, thus cheaper.
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Thanks for sharing mate rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 1 2012, 12:33 AM)
Expensive? Singapore version isn't the same as the one MY is using, MY version is geo-locked and not available in Singapore, thus cheaper.
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I see. Thanks for sharing.

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so where should i get???
from amazon, is 350 sgd+-
i live jb where to get cheap one?
ulti 64 bit
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QUOTE(lee-turbo-hks @ Jan 2 2012, 01:08 AM)
so where should i get???
from amazon, is 350 sgd+-
i live jb where to get cheap one?
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You want the non-geo lock version?
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What is the main diff with lock or non?
Wil be using in sg

Sorry wil be using in jb smile.gif

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QUOTE(lee-turbo-hks @ Jan 3 2012, 09:07 PM)
What is the main diff with lock or non?
Wil be using in sg
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If you buy the geo-lock version, you won't be able to activate it while in SG, you need to activate it in MY before you can use it.
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So geo lock where to get at jb?
Prices?
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QUOTE(lee-turbo-hks @ Jan 5 2012, 03:58 AM)
So geo lock where to get at jb?
Prices?
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I'm not sure since I'm not from JB, but you may try at any reputable IT shops.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 6 2012, 04:15 PM)
I'm not sure since I'm not from JB, but you may try at any reputable IT shops.
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Jb seem very bored, store not very active ....
Not sure one to go ...
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Jan 4 2012, 12:11 AM)
If you buy the geo-lock version, you won't be able to activate it while in SG, you need to activate it in MY before you can use it.
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Oh really? I thought SEA can activate? That 1 applies to Microsoft Office only?

QUOTE(lee-turbo-hks @ Jan 6 2012, 05:47 PM)
Jb seem very bored, store not very active ....
Not sure one to go ...
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Not only bored, but expensive i guess?
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QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2012, 07:35 PM)
Oh really? I thought SEA can activate? That 1 applies to Microsoft Office only?
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SEA doesn't include Singapore and it also applies to the geo-locked Windows too. You can see the similar activation restriction on the packaging.


QUOTE(Quantum_thinking @ Jan 6 2012, 07:35 PM)
Not only bored, but expensive i guess?
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Yep because Singaporean keep buying stuff in JB so they hick the price up.
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anyone know where I can buy an original win 7 pro 64 bit?? it seems that everyone is selling counterfeit products.. even at shops in malls.. I don't know who to trust anymore..
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thanx for this info. almost bought some from mudah.
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Great information. i know few about window 7. but you provide a great knowledge about this... thumbup.gif
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counterfeit? or genuine?
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QUOTE(thyLove @ Mar 9 2012, 05:21 PM)
The COA shown in the last picture looks legit. That is the version distributed in the US.
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The COA shown in the last picture looks legit. That is the version distributed in the US.
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So it's a genuine one? Thanks ! notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(thyLove @ Mar 10 2012, 12:48 AM)
So it's a genuine one? Thanks !  notworthy.gif
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An update, now those counterfeiters getting a bit smarter, since no one would buy fake version with COA printed Made in USA, they changed it to Made in Singapore, but as always it's easy to spot the fake one on the security holes.

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[WTS] Windows 7 Ultimate (sealed box), Windows 7 Ultimate RM 550 (1 unit only)
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Apr 10 2012, 01:41 AM)
An update, now those counterfeiters getting a bit smarter, since no one would buy fake version with COA printed Made in USA, they changed it to Made in Singapore, but as always it's easy to spot the fake one on the security holes.

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[WTS] Windows 7 Ultimate (sealed box), Windows 7 Ultimate RM 550 (1 unit only)
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Thank you for informing me...sorry noob question here..counterfeit will work on pc or not? As the shop that i bought this..their key on previous software is working..thanks...
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QUOTE(Norameen @ Apr 10 2012, 02:06 AM)
Thank you for informing me...sorry noob question here..counterfeit will work on pc or not? As the shop that i bought this..their key on previous software is working..thanks...
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Counterfeit keys will work, but not for long as Microsoft will usually blacklisted the keys as those kind of keys will get abused, fast. If you have details on the shop, you can report them and get rewarded for that.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Apr 10 2012, 07:16 AM)
Counterfeit keys will work, but not for long as Microsoft will usually blacklisted the keys as those kind of keys will get abused, fast. If you have details on the shop, you can report them and get rewarded for that.
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Owh i c..thanks brother..wherr i can report?btw sales thread remove...
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Owh i c..thanks brother..wherr i can report?btw sales thread remove...
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You can report business that sells pirated and/or counterfeit products to Business Software Alliance. smile.gif
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hello.. currently using Windows 7 Home Premium OEM.

i'm just curious. if i want to upgrade to Ultimate using Windows Anytime Upgrade, where should i purchased the upgrade key?

should i buy the Retail pack of Windows Ultimate or just OEM Ultimate?

does OEM have counterfeit too?

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QUOTE(lifelikewhoa @ Apr 10 2012, 11:42 AM)
hello.. currently using Windows 7 Home Premium OEM.

i'm just curious. if i want to upgrade to Ultimate using Windows Anytime Upgrade, where should i purchased the upgrade key?

should i buy the Retail pack of Windows Ultimate or just OEM Ultimate?

does OEM have counterfeit too?

tq  biggrin.gif
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If I'm not mistaken, Windows Anytime Upgrade packs is only offered in the west, I never saw any WAU packs here. If you'd like to buy a WAU key, the best bet is at the Microsoft Store.

So far, I haven't learned about any counterfeit OEM version, but if I do, I'll let everyone know here. If you'd like to test one, you can check for the disc and the COA according to steps on page one.
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QUOTE(lifelikewhoa @ Apr 10 2012, 02:34 PM)
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You're welcomed. Please do let your friends know about these when they're getting into so suspicious deals. smile.gif
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windows 7 ultimate original how much..

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how about i saw some1 selling win7 for rm5x

isit genuine?
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ May 27 2012, 11:06 PM)
how about i saw some1 selling win7 for rm5x

isit genuine?
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Ask him for the COA (Certificate of Authenticity). If possible, put the picture of the COA here.
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QUOTE(FarCry3r @ May 27 2012, 11:53 PM)
Ask him for the COA (Certificate of Authenticity). If possible, put the picture of the COA here.
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do the COA can proof the seller use ori or keygen key?
do one i saw sellin key not in tis forum act.. but just sceptical same like the antivirus for rm20 hmm.gif
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ May 28 2012, 12:31 AM)
do the COA can proof the seller use ori or keygen key?
do one i saw sellin key not in tis forum act.. but just sceptical same like the antivirus for rm20  hmm.gif
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If the seller sells only the product key, you have no way of knowing if it's a clean, unused, non-blacklisted key. It's just not worth your time and money. When the key get blocked, you'll be left with rage, while the seller is long gone with your money.

The only legal way to get key without the COA is through Microsoft Store, but you still got a receipt from them.
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really hard to tell whether its ori or counterfeit.. sad.gif
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can use crack or hacking tools (i forget le)coz I help my dad reformat that fcking PC oso using that gigs to get genius ... but anyway thanks for info..
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Great info & many thanks.
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Most important is the Product key,haha
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QUOTE(Johnnylax @ Jan 1 2013, 06:37 PM)
Most important is the Product key,haha
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No it's not. The most important thing is the COA, Certificate of Authenticity.
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I want to buy a Windows 7 OS from Microsoft for my future purchase of a macbook pro.

I have search in official microsoft store but I do not see how you can purchase the product lcense key from them directly.

How do I do that here in Malaysia?
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QUOTE(hiiragizawa @ Jan 11 2013, 11:04 AM)
I want to buy a Windows 7 OS from Microsoft for my future purchase of a macbook pro.

I have search in official microsoft store but I do not see how you can purchase the product lcense key from them directly.

How do I do that here in Malaysia?
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Windows 7 is no longer being sold or produced. Your best bet is to go buy old stock from shops that might still have it.
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QUOTE(abubin @ Jan 11 2013, 11:08 AM)
Windows 7 is no longer being sold or produced. Your best bet is to go buy old stock from shops that might still have it.
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anyone here know this seller sell fake or oem version?

window 7
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i send my notebook at shop for genuine the windows 7. But after used several day they trigged and required genuine version. Help me... how to genuine my windows 7. about 3 time happen. please help me
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QUOTE(hamzah71 @ Feb 20 2013, 10:58 AM)
i send my notebook at shop for genuine the windows 7. But after used several day they trigged and required genuine version. Help me... how to genuine my windows 7. about 3 time happen. please help me
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it's probably they only install it as trial version..still not inserting original cd key...they want you to buy the key...

perhaps other forumer info ?
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I have realised that some people are selling low prices of Window 7, how can they get such a low prices ? are those fake products, used, or volume ?
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I have realised that some people are selling low prices of Window 7, how can they get such a low prices ? are those fake products, used, or volume ?
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can used. can transfer owner ship ady these days, but need buy from honest seller.
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Hi All,
Recently, I just found this thread and should have joined this forum early. doh.gif
I (think that) bought a counterfeit Window 7 Ultimate years ago from lelong.com.
The photo below is that I use window PID to check its product key.

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and the COA said "Made is USA". So, is it confirm a counterfeit copy?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(purplecarrot1987 @ Aug 27 2013, 11:25 AM)
Hi All,
Recently, I just found this thread and should have joined this forum early. doh.gif
I (think that) bought a counterfeit Window 7 Ultimate years ago from lelong.com.
The photo below is that I use window PID to check its product key.

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and the COA said "Made is USA". So, is it confirm a counterfeit copy?

Thanks.
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msdn version is for software development channel, not for resell to end user
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QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 27 2013, 12:39 PM)
msdn version is for software development channel, not for resell to end user
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Thanks.
If I want to buy an original one, the only way is buy through Windows Store, right?
one question, I want to know the version of Windows that bought from Windows Store, is it OEM or Retail? (I'm desktop gamer, sometimes will upgrade my parts)
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QUOTE(purplecarrot1987 @ Aug 28 2013, 09:35 AM)
Thanks.
If I want to buy an original one, the only way is buy through Windows Store, right?
one question, I want to know the version of Windows that bought from Windows Store, is it OEM or Retail? (I'm desktop gamer, sometimes will upgrade my parts)
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Simple to check You buy Original or Counterfeit/fake/MSDN key Product

after successful activation Windows 7 , Go to My Computer Properties

below windows is activated section , check the product id

XXXX-???-XXXXX-XXXXX


??? mean you product id channel either Retail / OEM / MSDN

Technet/MSDN/Bizspark:
065, 066, 067, 068 for Windows 7 Ultimate edition,
220 area for Professional, and the 230, 231 area for Home Premium

OEM:
must have OEM text
example: XXXX-OEM-XXXXX-XXXX

RETAIL:
033 - Retail Windows 7 Home Premium
074 - Retail Windows 7 Ultimate
177 - Retail Windows 7 Professional
339 - Retail Windows 7 Home Basic

Most Counterfeit/fake use illegal Technet/MSDN/Bizspark product key at their fake COA License label Box.
This key is not stand longer for genuine, 1-3 month, the key will auto blocked/blacklisted & with non-genuine mesage appear if you always use windows update Or when you re-installed & do activation windows next time.

MSDN info >
link


Best link to Ask & Answer Windows Genuine Question,
here
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wow.... that is one of the detailed explanation...
thanks bro...
later I check whether can get the seller name or not, then I post it here...
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Recently just plan to buy window 7 pro/ultimate version.
Saw very cheap price offer inside lelong.my (Activation Key only, no COA sticker)

Mean all the activation key sell from there all are MSDN version ?
and will have change not valid after use some time ?
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Would like to buy one of these and have a good look laugh.gif
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I am planning to get a windows7 now but I don't see it selling at Microsoft store. Any suggestion where can I buy without worrying about fake cd key?
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I am using the OEM version of the Windows 7 Ultimate and ytd I got a message saying Windows is not genuine. Try re key the product key and it says Product Key is blocked.
Any idea why?
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Call Microsoft to reactivate if you are sure using the original windows.
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Darn, looks like to me that piracy is now taken into a complete new level. It would be hard for beginners to simply spot those counterfeit software just by looking at it. >__>;;
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Darn, looks like to me that piracy is now taken into a complete new level. It would be hard for beginners to simply spot those counterfeit software just by looking at it. >__>;;
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Pirate also so advanced with new tactics..now I'm worried to pay premium prices for counterfeit stuffs. Just planned to start using original stuffs as now I've started working..
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QUOTE(Prevail @ Sep 2 2010, 02:54 PM)
buy keys and download , confirm works and genuine
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Can I buy the key on-line?
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Hi, guys, thanks for so much info.

I'm still a beginner and I'm getting so much knowledge here..

I would just like to verify from all the master here..

Can anyone tell me whether this 2 user is legit or not? Since I'm planning to buy a Windows 7 Home premium 64bit.
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and one more question..

If the seller says "COA(Product Key Sticker) & DVD installer disc ONLY", does that mean I have to separately buy the Activation key? or issit included in the COA?

Sorry for so many question. ><

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Where is the best place in KL to buy genuine Windows 7 software. Last year I bought a Win 7 Pro and Ultimate CD keys from a Leong.com.my seller and after 9 months use I got pop-ups to say my both Windows 7s are not genuine. On checking with Microsoft I was told the CD install keys were MSDN keys which were illegally sold to me.
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