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Matrix
post Feb 11 2005, 02:08 AM
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Just what do u guys predict and wants from the next gen consoles?

Personally in general, i would like to see:
-built-in VGA output!!! There doesn't seems like a good reason why this isn't included (other than cost factor). Not only that, having the option for multiple TV/monitor output will open up new possibilities.

-Built in HDD is a must!! But seems like cost factor is again taking this out of XBOX2 and there's no news of PS3 having built in HDD. And oh, just make sure the HDD is a standard PC IDE HDD..

-NO MORE CRAP SEQUELS!! If they can't make good sequels, just don't make it!

For the PS3, i would like to see:
-IMPROVED IMAGE QUALITY!! With Nvidia around, I'm quite sure we'll finally have a formula for JAGGIES-BE-GONE!!

-A bit more generous with the video RAM. I hope it's not another 4MB video ram fiasco that makes the PS2 texture so flat.

-More durable machines!!!

-DD5.1 realtime encoding!!

-No more crappy 8MB memory card. It's understandable they wanna make it propriatery...but at least use the SONY Memory stick or something bigger...but price will be prohibitive though. There's no way they'll allow standard cheap CF cards to be use...sigh..

-An instruction manuals to developers:
"Teach yourself to code the PS3 in 21 days without losing your hair." Now that the CELL is confirmed to have 8+1 cores ( with 10 cores executable in parallel, the last core can have 2 threads or something like that). Just hope that they have a proper suppport for developers or nobody will be able to use it except Ken Kutagari.

More news here about PS3:
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-ST-15015-1483-x-x-x



For the XBOX2, i would like to see:
-A better console design!! Currently, it looks too much like a BOX with an X on it.

-Backward compatibility!

-More Japanese RPG and games! If they can get this right, they'll be serious contender to SONY PS3.

My prediction of hardware superiority:
Somehow I've a feeling that the PS3 will be the most powerful hadrware around this time...by virtue it'll be released about 1 year later than XBOX2. Provided that the Cell don't turn out to be another Saturn+PS2. MS is taking the steps of SEGA by releasing a console early to capture the market...as long as they don't make the same mistake as SEGA did.

My prediction of software superiority:
I still don't see Japanese developers clamoring onboard XBOX2...eventhough SquareEnix did mentioned interest in XBOX2....i think SONY has some % of share in Square...so...Western support for XBOX2 will be there though, so the situation likely remains unchanged.

Oh yeah... i forgot to mentioned Nintendo? Seriously...I've no interest in them.

In a few months time, more questions shall be answered at GDC & E3.

Things is looking interesting!

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post Feb 11 2005, 03:04 AM
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QUOTE(Matrix @ Feb 11 2005, 02:08 AM)
-Backward compatibility!
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So far no backward compatibility because it changes from nvidia to ati cards. So microsoft will be liable for making it compatibility. They are still finding ways, loop hole to make backwards compatibility happen.

We can't really say who gona win next round 'coz we don't have any in depth story yet. IMO, next console war they won't be any hardware superior over each other i guess. Interesting point is xbox 2 gona have 3 version.

In terms of price maybe xbox 2 gona have advantage 'coz m$oft?....ati? (don't know whats the real reason they change to ati though)

I definitely want a hdd inside a console, it's just soooooooooooo nice to have a hdd in a console.

I want a built in media center....xbox mod media center has proven that it's a very convenient all in one entertainment system. Why want to have so many dvd player tv out cards stack near your tv, just one console will do!!

I gona wait and see, which one better then i will buy....instead of being a fan boy or something.
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post Feb 11 2005, 03:59 AM
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MOST IMPORTANTLY THE LINE UP OF GAMES

normally i buy a console coz i want a single game so badly...

oooo... DID U KNOW THAT... they are already working on the next DOAX game... i heard its not volleyball this time... hehehhe.... on XBOX2 of coz...

hardware issue sure is there la... i mean 1 year gap difference... sure technology and pricing factor... will benefit the PS3...

THE REAL WINNER is the one will the BEST developer support IMO..
i mean they are still producing WOW factor graphic on the PS2 (inferior hardware , anyone?) suprising but YES... GT4 MGS3 still WOW me at least...
thats y u cannot juz listen to the numbers... let the game do judgement...

and YES HDD SUPPORT.... although i think my XBOX will last long for sometime even if xbox2 come out... with XBMC and all...
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post Feb 11 2005, 09:11 AM
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What I want is the able to support 2 TV output. (which nobody cares)

Since most or all Consoles have 2 players. I dont want to play games with my other partner by spliting the TV screen into two.
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post Feb 11 2005, 09:24 AM
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in my opinion people will buy xbox when they can provide winnning eleven
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post Feb 11 2005, 09:32 AM
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I'll buy them all, PS3, Xbox 360 (?) and Nintendo Revolution (?)
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Good to hear that, Ace. One less fanboy in this world is a much needed relief, since you'd be supporting gaming in general, not the consoles.
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QUOTE(billytong @ Feb 11 2005, 09:11 AM)
What I want is the able to support 2 TV output. (which nobody cares)

Since most or all Consoles have 2 players. I dont want to play games with my other partner by spliting the TV screen into two.
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OMG, you said what i wanted for quite sometimes.

QUOTE(khazz @ Feb 11 2005, 09:24 AM)
in my opinion people will buy xbox when they can provide winnning eleven
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It's out in xbox. Somehow you show that out there alot of "soft"core gamer just wanna buy a console to play winning eleven, some sports games. Alot of my friend do.

BTW, prazole if what you said is true...squaresoft coming to xbox then the competition is really up to the console design, hardware, marketing liao. Almost all the game are cross platform, haha. For me i will either buy ps3 or xbox 2, gamecube revolution yet to see. Unless it's cheap then i gona buy both of them (like now i have both ps2 & xbox)

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u know what?

I am guessing the next Xbox design will just like the old xbox with a X letter on top.

But this time Xbox 2 might come with a pair XX on top. tongue.gif sweat.gif Cool! yawn.gif


PS1 can sit horizontally, PS2 can sit vertically. PS3 stick on the wall? shakehead.gif tongue.gif

Gamecube Revolution? The console have more cubical surface than the old one? tongue.gif
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post Feb 12 2005, 01:54 AM
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Instead of guessing here, some might be true and some might not be true
So I'll just wait for the announcements of all the consoles, especially PS3 during E3
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oh yeah i forget one thing

please design a COOL looking thing...
i dont particularly like the PS2 and Xbox design...
yeah ps2 is the worst.. gc the best!
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PS2 is way better than the GC for my taste
PS2 colour and design is stylish
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Perhaps a new set of layout for the PS3's controllers?

Make 'em FPS friendly. tongue.gif Also, the D-pad must have total of EIGHT directional buttons, not just 4, which is only up, left, right, down. Make it like the good ol' Sega Genesis days. Can play those fighting games more easier, coz more accurate to do shoryuken & whatnot.

Za Cell processor huh? Let's hope it's not gonna be so difficult to program, otherwise may end up like Sega Saturn. The developers are able to utilize only ONE of the processor in PS2 according to what I read in GAMEPRO magazine. (forgot which issue already). So, no use they make lotsa CPUs but can use only a few. whistling.gif

Just my humble opinion. smile.gif
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when is E3 ?
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http://www.e3expo.com/e3expo/

Mark your calendars for May 17th-20th, folks!
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aaahhh hope to c new ps3 with hdd built in and no more save card.. and most important ly more RPG.... Eh guys true ah squareenix intrested in xbox??? if tru the it's a problem to Sony.
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For me, me dun really care whatever super-spec that the next-gen console may have...
Me just wanna play great games... And most of the great games comes and/or ported for Nintendo consoles (search for gaming consoles history...) Other great games that not on Nintendo consoles, mostly already ported to PC (How they play Serious Sam/GTA3 using just an analog joypad? Using combination of mouse and keyboard is the best way to play FPS...)
Me used to own NES and SNES, skipped N64 and GC in flava of PS and PS2...
Me's so sorry Miyamoto... But me promise your NDS and NRevolution will sit happily my GBP,GBC and GBA, let the PS-variant gather dust!
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More cell read up in relation to RAMBUS. It's lucky for RAMBUS that SONY is still dealing with them after all their failure on the PC platform. Looks like they'll have another go at the PC market.

http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=2341

On another note....there seems very little info about the XBOX2 (rumours or otherwise) being out...it's quite suprising since the XBOX2 should be out 1 whole year before the PS3....and Nintendo is even worst...totally no info.

But let's not forget one interesting though....IBM is involved in ALL the consoles CPU, one way or another...The Cell=SONY+TOSHIBA+IBM, PowerPC(xbox2)=IBM+Motorola?, and Revolution also uses a chip which IBM is involved...POWERPC also??

I wonder if there's some agreement that prevents IBM from being 3-headed snake...hee-hee...take the tech developed from one company and bring it to the other...

Maybe they should have a division called IGM instead...INTERNATIONAL GAMING MACHINE!!



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QUOTE(mambo @ Feb 14 2005, 12:31 AM)
aaahhh hope to c new ps3 with hdd built in and no more save card.. and most important ly more RPG.... Eh guys true ah squareenix intrested in xbox??? if tru the it's a problem to Sony.
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Not more RPGs...but GREAT RPGs...the RPGs on the PS2 has been mostly sad sequels except the FF series. It just doesn't have the strong RPG precesnce of the PS1.

SQUARE-ENIX has expressed "interest" in the XBOX2, but as far as I'm concerned, it's going to be all talk only...if SONY is still holding those shares in Square-Enix, there's no way Square-Enix is going anywhere near the next-box.

And oh yeah...where the heck is the sequel to Final Fantasy Tactics!!! There just isn't any good "tactics" RPG games this generation.
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