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I see this guy ad in ebay malaysia, selling i phone 3gs 32gb. he claim that he is kastam of malaysia, and have underwater goods i phone for just 2000.. below is his phone, i nego half payment and balance upon receive, but he says because he need take this phone from his boss bigger pangkat then him 1, so need full payment. I trust him and after payment he sent me a invalid tracking no.

refuse to answer my call, i use other phone call him he answer very nicely, i ask him where is my phone he hang up imeadiately.

already make police report, but I think my money is gone d... coz i have no confident to our malaysia PDRM..... haiz.... i just open this to ask all of frens here becareful this guy who claim he is from kastam!


Hi,

Before we go further, let me explain on the item. Actually this item is
an underwater (Customs/Kastam) item. Which means this item has been
seized due to tax problems. There is no middle man involved, therfore
you are getting it direct, this is why it is cheap. I have a few units
to be sold, therefore, you do not have to Bid. You could purchase direct
from me without having to Bid. Due to limited stock, i base on first
come first serve basis. Who makes the payment first, gets it.

Regarding the Warranty, Full Warranty for 1 Year will be provided by
Principal in Hong Kong. This is because item came in from Hong Kong. Not
only that, from my side, i will offer 3 months Full warranty. Which
means, if there is any problem or you are not satisfied with the
condition, you can ask for a replacement (1 to 1 Switch) or full refund
will be given. This item is 100% Brand new and Original. Not an
imitation, recond or 2nd hand unit.

For your information, since this is our first deal, COD or COC could not
be done. This is for the safety of both parties. I only do COD with my
previously ready buyers. Perhaps on the second deal we could already
COD. Payment can be made through Bank transfer. Once payment being made,
item will be ship to you via courier on the same day via poslaju.
Shipping charges will be covered by me. Unless you require it to be sent
by other courier companies like DHL, Fedex, GD Express, etc.. then you
have to add the differences. Once Shipping had been done, i will sms to
you the tracking number. Im sure you will wonder, how if you already
made the payment and the item did not arrive? Do contact me and i will
explain in detail how this deal could be secured.

Anyway, my contact number is 012-243 0633 En Khai. Do contact me if you
want to know more about the transaction or the security of this
transaction.

Thanks



beware of this encik khairul
phone no 012-243 0633 En Khai.
cimb bank
he will also give u a fake ic no.....

his ebay post is delete recenly, but i believe he is still around in mudah or ebay lelong searhing for next victim! please be alert!
after this i dun trust internet trading anymore! all item u wanted to buy please COD.....

hope tat this msg helps! Thanks!
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always do a COD if u r dealing with somebody u dont know

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Can I know his Ebay ID.Coz for me it sound like he has been playing this game for some times.

Anyway as Ebay buyer and seller I would like to say please see seller or buyer feedback before buy.That is very important.So you know who you dealing with.For your lost,i feel sorry and hope you can buy it legal this time.We need black and white.Sorry if this make u mad or something.
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Nov 7 2009, 02:33 PM)
have u lodge a police report?
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have, but no use i think...... the polis just wanted me to write in a report and wait.... haiz.... coz they said this in internet scram, they need time to process and not their 1st priority case to investigate, can u beleive that! wtf..... i tell them i have the acc no of that guy, ask them check faster, coz should be easy to trace him down, polis sumore say not so fast 1.... have to tunggu lol..... haiz..... i think my money is fly d... i m prepare for the lost.... cry.gif cry.gif learn a lession
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I have to agree with you that I myself lost confident with the authorities especially the customs.
Do check out their websites and it is already stated in there that many posers are around to scam people.

So do becareful. Politely ask for his id and do a verification check before you deal with them.

I have a friend whose car was cheated by these irresponsible people.

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QUOTE(yoshiki81 @ Nov 7 2009, 02:38 PM)
Can I know his Ebay ID.Coz for me it sound like he has been playing this game for some times.

Anyway as Ebay buyer and seller I would like to say please see seller or buyer feedback before buy.That is very important.So you know who you dealing with.For your lost,i feel sorry and hope you can buy it legal this time.We need black and white.Sorry if this make u mad or something.
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I am buying the maxis now.... i m planing to buy the legal maxis the 1st place, but tired of that waiting period is killing me! but anyway have to wait too now........ i have learn a lesson.....


just wish tht no more ppll like me loss money to this fk guy
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yes, for online scamming, our police force doesnt have much "envy" or power to solve it.
they didnt have enough "pegawai penyiasat"..
unless its a really big case...

nevertheless, for the next deal, u should be careful. practice COD.
if anybody ask for deposit, ask him/her his/her photocopy of ID + driver license.
and also make an effort, make a video call *yes, video* to verify his IC/license number with his/her face


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QUOTE(waffleman @ Nov 7 2009, 02:42 PM)
I am buying the maxis now.... i m planing to buy the legal maxis the 1st place, but tired of that waiting period is killing me! but anyway have to wait too now........ i have learn a lesson.....
just wish tht no more ppll like me loss money to this fk guy
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try here

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...lite=iphone+3gs

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mate...gv his cimb acc number so that forummer here will take alert
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Nov 7 2009, 02:43 PM)
yes, for online scamming, our police force doesnt have much "envy" or power to solve it.
they didnt have enough "pegawai penyiasat"..
unless its a really big case...

nevertheless, for the next deal, u should be careful. practice COD.
if anybody ask for deposit, ask him/her his/her photocopy of ID + driver license.
and also make an effort,  make a video call *yes, video* to verify his IC/license number with his/her face
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talking about our polis, they just care about their $, unless u have some frens inside, normally this sort of case they dun even bother it, ya, after this case if i m buying anything fr the net definitely will be COD...... scare already! thanks dude! icon_rolleyes.gif


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mate...gv his cimb acc number so that forummer here will take alert
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ya i will, later, coz receipt at home, laster will post here! and his full name as well

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QUOTE(waffleman @ Nov 7 2009, 02:49 PM)
talking about our polis, they just care about their $, unless u have some frens inside, normally this sort of case they dun even bother it, ya, after this case if i m buying anything fr the net definitely will be COD...... scare already! thanks dude!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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no no, u must understand that our police force tried their best to help us.
the problem is, they are a little bit "mundur" in terms of cyber criminals like this.
if its a "physical" cases, they have no problem dealing with it, coz they have been doing that for ages.
that is why they want to recruit more policemen / policewomen in the future
so we can expect a better job from our police force in about..er... maximum 5 years laugh.gif

oh btw, i'm a neutral, from my point of view.
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QUOTE(s@ni @ Nov 7 2009, 02:54 PM)
no no, u must understand that our police force tried their best to help us.
the problem is, they are a little bit "mundur" in terms of cyber criminals like this.
if its a "physical" cases, they have no problem dealing with it, coz they have been doing that for ages.
that is why they want to recruit more policemen / policewomen in the future
so we can expect a better job from our police force in about..er... maximum 5 years  laugh.gif

oh btw, i'm a neutral, from my point of view.
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I try my best to convince myself they are trying to help us, but unless i m blind...... i cant do that, u just go to our penang polis hq and see their service, their way of asking, is like u can not feel even 1% he is caring about this case. haiz, forget about it.

I also hope that like u said, in the future our PDRM will be better....
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aiyoyo doh.gif that guy is a otai scammer lah,got alot of victim edi

got some thread about him before this but I'm not able to find it
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QUOTE(alessamourner @ Nov 7 2009, 03:09 PM)
aiyoyo  doh.gif  that guy is a otai scammer lah,got alot of victim edi

got some thread about him before this but I'm not able to find it
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yea...seems like read sumwhere before...well planned scam.. vmad.gif
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here the latest thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...hl=ebay+scammer


Added on November 7, 2009, 3:33 pm
Hi,

Before we go further, let me explain on the item. Actually this item is
an underwater (Customs/Kastam) item. Which means this item has been
seized due to tax problems. There is no middle man involved, therfore
you are getting it direct, this is why it is cheap. I have a few units
to be sold, therefore, you do not have to Bid. You could purchase direct
from me without having to Bid. Due to limited stock, i base on first
come first serve basis. Who makes the payment first, gets it.

Regarding the Warranty, Full Warranty for 1 Year will be provided by
Principal in Hong Kong. This is because item came in from Hong Kong. Not
only that, from my side, i will offer 3 months Full warranty. Which
means, if there is any problem or you are not satisfied with the
condition, you can ask for a replacement (1 to 1 Switch) or full refund
will be given. This item is 100% Brand new and Original. Not an
imitation, recond or 2nd hand unit.

For your information, since this is our first deal, COD or COC could not
be done. This is for the safety of both parties. I only do COD with my
previously ready buyers. Perhaps on the second deal we could already
COD. Payment can be made through Bank transfer. Once payment being made,
item will be ship to you via courier on the same day via poslaju.
Shipping charges will be covered by me. Unless you require it to be sent
by other courier companies like DHL, Fedex, GD Express, etc.. then you
have to add the differences. Once Shipping had been done, i will sms to
you the tracking number. Im sure you will wonder, how if you already
made the payment and the item did not arrive? Do contact me and i will
explain in detail how this deal could be secured.

Anyway, my contact number is 012-243 0633 En Khai. Do contact me if you
want to know more about the transaction or the security of this
transaction.

Thanks



Hi,

Saya ingin mulakan dengan sedikit info tentang barangan ini. Sebenarnya barangan ini ialah barang underwater (Ditahan Kastam). Sebab itulah barang ini murah. Saya mempunyai beberapa unit untuk dijual secepat mungkin, jadi, anda tidak perlu Bid. Anda boleh beli terus daripada saya. Oleh sebab stok saya terhad, jadi, siapa cepat dia dapat. Siapa membuat pembayaran dahulu, dia dapat.

Mengenai Warranty, saya hanya boleh memberi Warranty selama 3 bulan. Yang mana, kalau ada apa apa masalah dalam masa 3 bulan, inform saya secepat mungkin, saya akan menggantikan dengan unit yang baru. Barang ini 100% Baru dan Original, bukan imitation, recond atau second hand. Jika selepas pembelian tidak memuaskan hati anda, saya akan full refund.

Selain daripada itu, COD atau COC hanya boleh dibuat oleh pembeli pembeli saya yang terdahulu (2nd / 3rd deal boleh COD), jika ini adalah deal kita yang pertama, pembayaran hanya boleh dibuat melalui Bank transfer dan saya akan courier pada encik/cik melalui Poslaju. Selepas pembayaran dibuat encik/cik perlu SMS saya nama dan alamat penuh atas tujuan penghantaran. Saya akan courier pada encik/cik pada hari yang sama pembayaran dibuat melalui Poslaju. Kos penghantaran akan dibayar oleh pihak saya. Selepas penghantaran selesai saya akan inform encik tracking no barang yang dihantar. Encik/Cik akan terima keesokkan harinya. Saya pasti encik/cik akan tertanya bagaimana jika pembayaran sudah dibuat dan barang tidak sampai? Sila contact saya dan saya akan jelaskan bagaimana deal ini boleh secure untuk kedua dua pihak.

Untuk berurusan atau pertanyaan lanjut tentang keselamatan urusniaga ini, boleh call atau sms saya di 012-912 2420 En Lan.

Terima Kasih



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QUOTE(alessamourner @ Nov 7 2009, 03:26 PM)
here the latest thread
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...hl=ebay+scammer


Added on November 7, 2009, 3:33 pm
Hi,

Before we go further, let me explain on the item. Actually this item is
an underwater (Customs/Kastam) item. Which means this item has been
seized due to tax problems. There is no middle man involved, therfore
you are getting it direct, this is why it is cheap. I have a few units
to be sold, therefore, you do not have to Bid. You could purchase direct
from me without having to Bid. Due to limited stock, i base on first
come first serve basis. Who makes the payment first, gets it.

Regarding the Warranty, Full Warranty for 1 Year will be provided by
Principal in Hong Kong. This is because item came in from Hong Kong. Not
only that, from my side, i will offer 3 months Full warranty. Which
means, if there is any problem or you are not satisfied with the
condition, you can ask for a replacement (1 to 1 Switch) or full refund
will be given. This item is 100% Brand new and Original. Not an
imitation, recond or 2nd hand unit.

For your information, since this is our first deal, COD or COC could not
be done. This is for the safety of both parties. I only do COD with my
previously ready buyers. Perhaps on the second deal we could already
COD. Payment can be made through Bank transfer. Once payment being made,
item will be ship to you via courier on the same day via poslaju.
Shipping charges will be covered by me. Unless you require it to be sent
by other courier companies like DHL, Fedex, GD Express, etc.. then you
have to add the differences. Once Shipping had been done, i will sms to
you the tracking number. Im sure you will wonder, how if you already
made the payment and the item did not arrive? Do contact me and i will
explain in detail how this deal could be secured.

Anyway, my contact number is 012-243 0633 En Khai. Do contact me if you
want to know more about the transaction or the security of this
transaction.

Thanks

Hi,

Saya ingin mulakan dengan sedikit info tentang barangan ini. Sebenarnya barangan ini ialah barang underwater (Ditahan Kastam). Sebab itulah barang ini murah. Saya mempunyai beberapa unit untuk dijual secepat mungkin, jadi, anda tidak perlu Bid. Anda boleh beli terus daripada saya. Oleh sebab stok saya terhad, jadi, siapa cepat dia dapat. Siapa membuat pembayaran dahulu, dia dapat.

Mengenai Warranty, saya hanya boleh memberi Warranty selama 3 bulan. Yang mana, kalau ada apa apa masalah dalam masa 3 bulan, inform saya secepat mungkin, saya akan menggantikan dengan unit yang baru. Barang ini 100% Baru dan Original, bukan imitation, recond atau second hand. Jika selepas pembelian tidak memuaskan hati anda, saya akan full refund.

Selain daripada itu, COD atau COC hanya boleh dibuat oleh pembeli pembeli saya yang terdahulu (2nd / 3rd deal boleh COD), jika ini adalah deal kita yang pertama, pembayaran hanya boleh dibuat melalui Bank transfer dan saya akan courier pada encik/cik melalui Poslaju. Selepas pembayaran dibuat encik/cik perlu SMS saya nama dan alamat penuh atas tujuan penghantaran. Saya akan courier pada encik/cik pada hari yang sama pembayaran dibuat melalui Poslaju. Kos penghantaran akan dibayar oleh pihak saya. Selepas penghantaran selesai saya akan inform encik tracking no barang yang dihantar. Encik/Cik akan terima keesokkan harinya. Saya pasti encik/cik akan tertanya bagaimana jika pembayaran sudah dibuat dan barang tidak sampai? Sila contact saya dan saya akan jelaskan bagaimana deal ini boleh secure untuk kedua dua pihak.

Untuk berurusan atau pertanyaan lanjut tentang keselamatan urusniaga ini, boleh call atau sms saya di 012-912 2420 En Lan.

Terima Kasih

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YA, its that same Son of a B...... hope that he will get caught soon, or more ppl wil be losing their money.... thx finding this ot dude!
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wah, rm2K a lot man. like one months gaji..

first time buy must COD la, then gain trust post laju la.

But this case terbalik.

sorry to hear
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He is Isa bin something la.. sigh, i can't believe theres still somene got conned. He must be earning RM40k to RM50k per month man.
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Check this out

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He got so many names, dunno which one are real.
- Jasmi bin Shaharuddin
- Isa bin Ismail
- Latest now is En. Hakim, hp no: 012-918 4797

I got this info from this website: http://jasmi-victims.blogspot.com/2008/01/mohad-isa-bin-ismail.html

and few of comments from ppl's overthere:-

"his using phone no. 0122430633 and now already offline..."
Comment on 2009-11-04 9:20 AM

"using cimb account no. 1414-0001062-206 using name Khairul Azmizam Bin Ahmad Natal and ic no. 720306-08-6309..."
Comment on 2009-11-02 2:16 AM

"I just got scammed for RM2800 from this Mr. Khai. His phone number 0129184465"
Comment on 2009-11-02 2:14 AM

"he relisted his apple iphone 3gs.. i just ask for the COD.. he refused.. he gave me this number 012-941 4267 (en khai)"
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Walao..got so many comment on him.. I'm feel so sorry to those has been conned.
My advise is pls don't be so greedy to buy cheap phones,otherwise you'll regret for it.
If there is a deal, go meet him! Deal a COD!
If he gave many reasons, just get off and find other seller.

Don't let him take your money away.

Now he "pancing ikan" at ebay. Watch Out!
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QUOTE(gelong83 @ Nov 7 2009, 07:51 PM)
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He got so many names, dunno which one are real.
- Jasmi bin Shaharuddin
- Isa bin Ismail
- Latest now is En. Hakim, hp no: 012-918 4797

I got this info from this website: http://jasmi-victims.blogspot.com/2008/01/mohad-isa-bin-ismail.html

and few of comments from ppl's overthere:-

"his using phone no. 0122430633 and now already offline..."   
Comment on 2009-11-04 9:20 AM

"using cimb account no. 1414-0001062-206 using name Khairul Azmizam Bin Ahmad Natal and ic no. 720306-08-6309..."
Comment on 2009-11-02 2:16 AM

"I just got scammed for RM2800 from this Mr. Khai. His phone number 0129184465"
Comment on 2009-11-02 2:14 AM

"he relisted his apple iphone 3gs.. i just ask for the COD.. he refused.. he gave me this number 012-941 4267 (en khai)"
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Walao..got so many comment on him.. I'm feel so sorry to those has been conned.
My advise is pls don't be so greedy to buy cheap phones,otherwise you'll regret for it.
If there is a deal, go meet him! Deal a COD!
If he gave many reasons, just get off and find other seller.

Don't let him take your money away.

Now he "pancing ikan" at ebay. Watch Out!
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OMG...... so many ppl are kena.... what the hell the polis are doing..... is it so difficult to hunt him down, have the bank details all d......
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