Can you explain more about built-in wireless flash functionality?
Do you mean A550 pop-up flash can use it as commander/master to control and trigger the off camera slave flash?
Afaik sony wireless flash system is still behind both nikon and canon.
The so called built-in wireless flash can only be used to trigger the slave flash, it cannot control the output of the slave flash.

Not sure about A550 but A200 can only trigger F42 but not controlling the slave flash...u are right here.
(if im not mistaken)wait for sony users to verify this..

This post has been edited by Sp00kY: Nov 1 2009, 10:17 PM

SONY pop up flash can trigger most of the SONY external flash, ie F36, F42, F56, F58. But controlling the output, I think cannot la..
But A700/A850/A900 with F58 as commander can control other flash using the ratio thinggy i think..
not sure.. for A550.

This post has been edited by hkhk: Nov 1 2009, 10:26 PM

a550 for fast fps

output of flash should be cannot la..but u can set it at the flash there ma............well at least sony users no need to buy flash trigger for now lo

before i start, let me state that i'm using a sony alpha system
ok, with that out of the way, let me comment on the wireless flash first
with the sony aplha a2xx/3xx/5xx, you might not have much control over the wireless flash, but what you get is wireless flash compatibility right out of the box for less than 3k (body price)
the flash that is compatible with the wireless starts from 750 (f42am) new, providing a low entry point to wireless flash photography

another feature that i would like to mention is the live view system
sure, there are those that say live view is for kids
having experienced the usefulness of it, i won't mind to be a kid among the photography adults
it makes photo taking simple and more flexible for everyone!

didnt u see the suggestion there???we wanted him to feel the camera on his hand b4 he follow some biased comments blindly..

to be frank...somehow i feel that most of the time..all the comments r more or less biased to certain brand...and yet so often the functionality isnt that much diff....


so if u need me to give a "suggestion" like urs..fine...get a sony..why??bcoz i said its better...

u can say 100 reasons y sony sucks..and sony users can tell u 101 reasons y sony rocks...same goes to canon or nikon..so whats the point for giving those fanboyish "suggestion"...??


just my 2cents worth...peace..

This post has been edited by achew: Nov 2 2009, 12:07 AM

The wireless flash feature on the alpha bodies with pop-up flash is like nothing to me.
It can be done with any cheap 3rd party wireless trigger at around rm100.

Unlike nikon or the latest canon 7d, the built in flash does control and trigger the wireless slave flash. This is a feature which i will really consider before buying.

does Sony's wireless flash on the lower-end bodies supports TTL? Or it is just pure blindly optical trigger?

if it does not support TTL, then yes as sukhoi mentioned; it is not useful at all.

I thought they are discussing about a550 and 500D..

Why suddenly you talking about 7D..different league la..

kalau exam punya jawapan ni dah fail ni..

are you refering me ?
definitely no la
I mean other people.


Yes they are. But sukhoi just take 7D Wireless flash system and Nikon CLS as comparison.

aiya this kind of thread. buang ke tong sampah lah...
useless one.
Manatau ended up ts beli Mamiya lol

Please consider the price point of 7d before you include that. TS wanted to choose A550/500d, lets keep within the boundary. Sony flash is cheap, you can get F58 at RM1100 while 580ex you need RM1500+. Yes, 500d does feel like plastic for me. Handling is very important if you wanted to add an external flash to the body. Good grip will ensure the weight is distributed better.
A550 provide quick AF live view while 500d does not. It really help if you upgrade from digital compact.
When I look at 2nd post, it is really
Color- every brand got their own jpeg color output and this is really depends on you. Some like nikon for its neutral color, some like minolta color etc.
AF off?-Get used to canon but not sony do you? I found my A200 AF is good, it is sharp. Not to forget that A550 got face detection and smile shutter
High iso noise-Are you sure? Have you look at recent review regarding the noise?
Lack of optical quality-you got zeiss lenses to choose from but do you have the $$?

ok..i guess TS should know what to look out from sooo many "suggestions" from us..lol

time to leave this thread b4 things get ugly.. =)

achew-Agree. Close the thread and go to shop for testing purposes.

most probably ts has made up his mind...didnt even reply once..

I suppose TS has read about the specs on both system before posting the question here which is why he stated the two models which is 500D and A550.

frankly, telling him to try hands on both cameras is like pointless. Who wouldnt go and test and compare bodies unless he/she aint a smart consumer.

which is why he states the question as to which system has more advantage,in this case Canon users and Sony users are stating out the pros and cons. This helps the TS to choose his system.

5564321 - the comments on the camera was based on the output of the A550 of a friend of mine and it wasnt said blindly just because I'm a fan of Canon. But oh well, I might be wrong cuz my friend does not have skills like you guys.


shoot me if you want to. I find it entertaining

wow so fast got so many post..anyway after I posted here I went out to a camera shop to test...it's amazing not many camera shop has 500D

but I am having this problem, I like abit and dislike a bit of both

Canon 500D (like)
1. like the movie mode, but never realise got no sound, hmm how frequent do we use movie mode?
2. iso somehow looks cleaner than A550(transfer to my laptop)
3. saw someone posted on secondhand lens, so i search here the range is quite wide compared to sony lens
4. 15mp would help if I make accident (so i can start cropping)
5. uber light body, loves this
Canon 500d(dislike)
1. the liveview is strange with the need to use 2 buttons (one to focus one to release shutter) or did i use wrongly?
2. new lenses with IS is so expensive (a good one starts from rm4k?? how come so high ah?)
3. standard package only

A550 (like)
1. liveview - superb and the screen so big so nice but i scared it fast eat up battery..since i will carry around all daybattery power is also important..
2. the grip somehow is bigger and more comfy
3. wow the lenses is much cheaper compared to sony
4. free foto course? erm the shopkeeper says buy already they will supply free course for lifetime, jsut need to register fast (true or not oh?)
5. quite good package compare to canon with bags, lens, tripod, memory card

a550(dislike)
1. erm somehow feel like a pns camera
2. read on review builtin is not as good as inlens.....I tried to test on the spot, i really dont know wat to test and how..
3. its slightly-very heavy, especially when the shopowner plug in to a CarlZiss lens..
4. very strange thing is in the viewfinder, once focus already the other focus boxes hilang, is it suppose to be like that?

I am still stuck between this 2, cos they got abit of here and there that i like

This post has been edited by perfect10: Nov 2 2009, 01:10 AM

This post has been edited by achew: Nov 2 2009, 01:35 AM

WTH you talking about?
Please read previous page, kysham mentioned about wireless flash function is one of the advantages from a550.
I was confused that's why discuss a bit further and give example dslr bodies with built-in flash commander.

you want same league dslr with this capability? Nikon D80/D90

Read and think first before you post.

Back to the topic, I still think that A550 is the better choice here.
Especially for big hands user like me.
My bro took my suggestion just bought a A550 kit in Shanghai.

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Added on November 2, 2009, 1:53 am

Yet another blind poster?
I never compare 7D and A550, i just give example of built-in flash dslr.

The wireless flash function on A550 is really nothing to shout about.


This post has been edited by sukhoi37: Nov 2 2009, 01:53 AM

I though A200 already got wireless flash fucntion ?
got TTL or not ?