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done the upgrade by 4am this morning. blink.gif

I realize the boot time is slower now, and I have problem to shut it down as well.....haih.

Need to do fresh install? Hope no need to hunt for the display driver up and down again cry.gif
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QUOTE(LanEvoX @ Nov 2 2009, 09:44 AM)
done the upgrade by 4am this morning.  blink.gif

I realize the boot time is slower now, and I have problem to shut it down as well.....haih.

Need to do fresh install? Hope no need to hunt for the display driver up and down again  cry.gif
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grub2 and ext4 won't be installed by default if you choose to upgrade from previous installation.
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yeeehhhhaaa am in love with this Karmic Kaola!!!!
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using it now on my lappy dual boot with vista home. previously using hardy. im using Dell vostro 1310.
1st thing i notice, is it cannot detect my wireless hardware. (mine using BCM4312 802.11b/g by Broadcom)
but here is the solution. my wireless hardware running smoothly after i followed the step. nod.gif

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Oct 31 2009, 10:46 AM)
Does anybody here know how 2 change the gui to looks like OSX or windows but still keep the theme of ubuntu aka color scheme?
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There is a guide here which could help you:

http://www.howtoforge.com/mac4lin_make_linux_look_like_a_mac
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Been driving this since 3 days ago, i think. Smooth ride so far with some hiccups in Mplayer though.
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QUOTE(LanEvoX @ Nov 2 2009, 09:44 AM)
done the upgrade by 4am this morning.  blink.gif

I realize the boot time is slower now, and I have problem to shut it down as well.....haih.

Need to do fresh install? Hope no need to hunt for the display driver up and down again  cry.gif
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What I found in Ubuntu forums is they suggest you to do a fresh install rather than an upgrade because doing an upgrade is not as clean as a fresh install. I'm also doing a fresh install soon. sad.gif
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fresh install taking 20mins+- only maa, just install it he he
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QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Nov 3 2009, 06:05 AM)
Been driving this since 3 days ago, i think. Smooth ride so far with some hiccups in Mplayer though.
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is it the codec? hmm.gif if it is the codec, i think the previous version also have same problem hmm.gif

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What I found in Ubuntu forums is they suggest you to do a fresh install rather than an upgrade because doing an upgrade is not as clean as a fresh install. I'm also doing a fresh install soon.  sad.gif
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fresh install is better and faster brows.gif
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QUOTE(zzub @ Nov 3 2009, 07:46 PM)
is it the codec?  hmm.gif if it is the codec, i think the previous version also have same problem hmm.gif
fresh install is better and faster brows.gif
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fresh install mean from cd ubuntu, format the partition and then install new one?
woww... or can't upgrade using cd ?
becoz dont want to reinstall back a software and settings..
need a time to do that maaa...
just a new kernel and module right?
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Nov 3 2009, 09:02 PM)
fresh install mean from cd ubuntu, format the partition and then install new one?
woww... or can't upgrade using cd ?
becoz dont want to reinstall back a software and settings..
need a time to do that maaa...
just a new kernel and module right?
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new filesytem, new bootloader. So it is better to fresh install.
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anyone dual-boot with Mac OS X? grub can recognize Mac boot now?
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Guys, do you have any info on the local Karmic Koala repositories list?

In addition, where to find the restricted and multiverse repo? tongue.gif
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Source :- http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/11/03/ka...la_frustration/


Early adopters bloodied by Ubuntu's Karmic Koala


By Gavin Clarke in San Francisco • Get more from this author


Ubuntu 9.10 is causing outrage and frustration, with early adopters wishing they'd stuck with previous versions of the Linux distro.

Blank and flickering screens, failure to recognize hard drives, defaulting to the old 2.6.28 Linux kernel, and failure to get encryption running are taking their toll, as early adopters turn to the web for answers and log fresh bug reports in Ubuntu forums.

Reg reader motoh delivered a warning on moving to Ubuntu 9.10 from version 9.04 - Jaunty Jackalope - in comments on our review of the new OS here. "If you upgrade from Jaunty beware. You may have a rough ride. I made my mistake by trying too soon. Wait the usual month," motoh wrote. Angus77 at Ubuntuforums.org agreed: "This is so frustrating! Jaunty was a snap to install."

They're in good company, as more than a fifth of people upgrading to Ubuntu 9.10 have reported issues they can't fix, according to an Ubuntuforums.org poll here. Only around 10 per cent of those upgrading or installing reported a completely flawless experience.

Overall, those installing Ubuntu 9.10 on a clean machine are having a slightly easier time than those making the upgrade. Users installing Ubuntu 9.10 were able to solve more of the niggling problems than those trying to upgrade from an older version.

Canonical and Ubuntu should be worried. Typically, it's the more technical users overall who install Ubuntu - and early adopters tend to be the most technical of the technical.

If these people are experiencing problems they cannot solve, then the outlook for Ubuntu among a broader, less technical consumer base - especially on prized netbooks against Windows 7 - is not great.

And that's a sentiment already being voiced in the Ubuntu forums. Ubuntu 9.10 upgrader graydo64 posted: "Wish I'd done a clean install. Appreciate that as an existing and generally content Ubuntu user I'm not Joe Public but if I were I'd have dropped Ubuntu at about 9.30 last night and toddled off to find a copy of Windows 7."

The problems causing the biggest headaches are in graphics, with reports of flickering or dead screens. Adopters have re-downloaded and re-installed Ubuntu 9.10, and people have scoured the web for answers only to hit the same issues.

A bug has now being filed in Ubuntu forums on how Ubuntu 9.10 breaks graphics drivers and X, preventing log in or startx.

Motoh wrote in our comments section: "A wealth of X server issues have cropped up, causing black screens with hard to trace causes. Proprietary driver activation has become buggy, and program crashes are routine instead of rare."

Motoh called Ubuntu 9.10 "a huge disappointment", writing "All in all, a very underwhelming release. You can do better, Canonical."

A conflict with graphics cards from Nvidia and ATI seems to be the issue, but there's no answer "why" or obvious fix.

Other problems: Ubuntu 9.10 is installing the old Linux kernel - 2.6.28 - not the new, 2.6.31 kernel released in September, with Ubuntu 9.10 also failing to see hard drives on certain machines.

Encryption proved a hurdle for Ubuntu forum member w00ly, who decried the lack of automation on encrypting his home partition.

"I had chosen to encrypt the home partition when installing 9.04 and then wasn't able to get the passphrase command to complete the encryption process to work properly," w00ly wrote.

Finally, after a late night and getting some advice online, w00ly wrote: "I certainly wish the encryption mounting process was more automated like everything else is!!"

The best you can say of this situation is that the problems aren't universal. Ubuntu and Reg readers together report installing Ubuntu 9.10 on Acer Aspire A150s, Hewlett Packard 2133, IBM T60, ThinkPad T42, and EEE PC netbooks, and laptops either flawlessly or with minor issues. Still, that proves that Ubuntu has a long road to haul before installing even this popular Linux distro is the no-brainer that helps makes Windows the success it is among regular PC users.

Canonical was unable to comment on the problems at press time. ®
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QUOTE(dinnor @ Nov 3 2009, 09:02 PM)
fresh install mean from cd ubuntu, format the partition and then install new one?
woww... or can't upgrade using cd ?
becoz dont want to reinstall back a software and settings..
need a time to do that maaa...
just a new kernel and module right?
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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Nov 3 2009, 09:15 PM)
new filesytem, new bootloader.  So it is better to fresh install.
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the problem im facing now is the quick search and search function on my synaptic package manager. i cannot search for package that is not yet installed in my laptop, i have to manually scroll down the list and look for the package... sweat.gif still looking for the solution.
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anybody encrypt their home partition? how is the performance?
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Upgrades gives me so many problem so I just do clean install. Now I am scratching my head to get my Amarok play mp3. I already fed up with Mplayer so I use VLC as default. I suspect my Mplayer and Amarok have some problems.

Gnomenu also refused to work too. Cairo dock gives a funky error so I use AWN instead. No more problems.

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QUOTE(wKkaY @ Oct 31 2009, 12:44 AM)
Any feedback on Empathy by Pidgin users?
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First look, it seems to be better than Pidgin when it comes to connecting to MSN. Pidgin always takes me longer to connect.

Few features i am seeing, missing from Pidgin (just started using Pidgin / Ubuntu a month ago, so pardon me if i am missing some features) :

- Cant block specific users. In pidgin, i can block them
- Cant minimize in taskbar. Pidgin in 9,04 does not allow me to minimize, but in 9.10, i seem to be able to do that.

FYI, i did an upgrade instead of clean install from 9.04.
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any more feedback? i'm not able to try this new release yet becoz do not have cd for clean install..
i'm hoping that this release not so bad as the new said above... okay?? smile.gif
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QUOTE(scorps @ Nov 4 2009, 08:51 PM)
any more feedback? i'm not able to try this new release yet becoz do not have cd for clean install..
i'm hoping that this release not so bad as the new said above... okay?? smile.gif
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To be safe, I suggest you to wait for 1 mth so the problems and bugs can be ironed out. 9.10 is a dream but still have some problems here and there.

Just a suggestion.
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