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QUOTE(nshady @ Nov 5 2009, 05:54 PM)
do you guys realize that when rooney is in centre and surrounded by a lot of players...he tend to lose the ball easily...he needs a lot of spaces to dribble and to shoot...
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wow chelsea's match is supersunday?

so late somore.
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Here's my take in tackling matches this season.

We could use a midfield trio combination against BIG teams. I meant for any combination but the best would be Anderson-Fletcher-Carrick. It is best for feisty and physically harsh matches.

As for SMALLER or MIDTABLE teams, we could use the creativity of Scholesy to be partnered with any of the trio to unlock the game. We could also use Giggsy's wizardry to run around defenders.

If Hargreaves ever comeback, it will an EXTRA bonus for us as he could be substituted with Fletcher for alternate matches.

To me, the most important part of our team would be the middle. I've seen on numerous occasions, our defenders played well and so were our strikers but midfielders are nowhere to be seen. So, I guess this should do the trick to conquer English and European sides.

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yeahh. i get what u mean box. SAF used that system last season which is very successful thanks to the goalscoring Ronaldo.
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QUOTE(nimrod2 @ Nov 5 2009, 07:17 PM)
wow chelsea's match is supersunday?

so late somore.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Nov 5 2009, 07:19 PM)
Here's my take in tackling matches this season.

We could use a midfield trio combination against BIG teams. I meant for any combination but the best would be Anderson-Fletcher-Carrick. It is best for feisty and physically harsh matches.

As for SMALLER or MIDTABLE teams, we could use the creativity of Scholesy to be partnered with any of the trio to unlock the game. We could also use Giggsy's wizardry to run around defenders.

If Hargreaves ever comeback, it will an EXTRA bonus for us as he could be substituted with Fletcher for alternate matches.

To me, the most important part of our team would be the middle. I've seen on numerous occasions, our defenders played well and so were our strikers but midfielders are nowhere to be seen. So, I guess this should do the trick to conquer English and European sides.
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Agreed. nod.gif Fletcher behind Ando and Carrick also can. Right now Ando seems like he can deliver the killing pass, and with Fletch harassing Ski's midfield, it'll be a nice combo. Scholes and Giggsy always perform vs smaller teams, they use their experience well. So +1.
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QUOTE(roti-terbakar @ Nov 5 2009, 07:33 PM)
Agreed. nod.gif Fletcher behind Ando and Carrick also can. Right now Ando seems like he can deliver the killing pass, and with Fletch harassing Ski's midfield, it'll be a nice combo. Scholes and Giggsy always perform vs smaller teams, they use their experience well. So +1.
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Ah .. I totally forgot about Gibson. We could use some of this time too. Especially on cup matches. I think he is a decent bloke. Could be somewhere in between of Keano and Scholesy. Lots of talents are waiting in line come January.

On the bolded part :

I would think it is the best if Carrick playing furthest behind. Carrick loves to pick and spray passes. And when he is not pressured, he will always produce those killer passes that we are anticipating for. Anderson and Fletcher to disrupt the harmony of the opposing team and to run riot while Carrick to provide that extra defense in front of the defence line and picking passes at the same time.

It's about time for the team to phase out Scholesy and Giggsy. We couldn't afford to depend on their experiences and expertise all the time.

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QUOTE(roti-terbakar @ Nov 5 2009, 07:33 PM)
Agreed. nod.gif Fletcher behind Ando and Carrick also can. Right now Ando seems like he can deliver the killing pass, and with Fletch harassing Ski's midfield, it'll be a nice combo. Scholes and Giggsy always perform vs smaller teams, they use their experience well. So +1.
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Carrick usually playing Ando and fletcher coz he's like Pirlo; a deep lying playmaker.
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Gibson wub.gif Really can become the 2nd Scholesy. But IDK bout he near Keano. Maybe a lil bit of Keano and Scholesy. That guy got bright future. nod.gif Too bad now injured. Still waiting for him to mature a bit. Then naiiss de.


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I would think it is the best if Carrick playing furthest behind. Carrick loves to pick and spray passes. And when he is not pressured, he will always produce those killer passes that we are anticipating for. Anderson and Fletcher to disrupt the harmony of the opposing team and to run riot while Carrick to provide that extra defense in front of the defence line and picking passes at the same time.

It's about time for the team to phase out Scholesy and Giggsy. We couldn't afford to depend on their experiences and expertise all the time.
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I'm kinda not agree with that. For me Carrick should play center, center. Too deep he can loss ball when pressured. Dangerous. Of course he can pass ball well. But defend, not good enough. Fraid he can loss the ball. And he kinda slow to track back/retain the ball.

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QUOTE(roti-terbakar @ Nov 5 2009, 07:50 PM)
Gibson wub.gif Really can become the 2nd Scholesy. But IDK bout he near Keano. Maybe a lil bit of Keano and Scholesy. That guy got bright future. nod.gif Too bad now injured. Still waiting for him to mature a bit. Then naiiss de.


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I'm kinda not agree with that. For me Carrick should play center, center. Too deep he can loss ball when pressured. Dangerous. Of course he can pass ball well. But defend, not good enough. Fraid he can loss the ball. And he kinda slow to track back/retain the ball.
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That is the purpose in having midfield trio. Fletcher and Anderson to provide that middle of the field line defence. To dispossess the ball from the opponents and cause riot to their backline whenever possible.

People seems to underestimate Carrick's defensive ability. Yes, he isn't the physical type like Anderson and Fletcher but he kills attacks by anticipating opponents movement. He is a good reader of the game. I don't know what's wrong with fans these days, most of them think that we overpaid for Carrick.

Provided that he was sold to us from SPURS whereby the OWNER of the club hates us so much and try to MILK us as possible as he could. Carrick is a good interceptor. I've seen it many times. Hell, I thought he played better than Scholesy did in Liverpool match. The problem with him is he needs a good partner at least to assure him that he is freely to perform his tasks.

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Nov 5 2009, 08:07 PM)
That is the purpose in having midfield trio. Fletcher and Anderson to provide that middle of the field line defence. To dispossess the ball from the opponents and cause riot to their backline whenever possible.

People seems to underestimate Carrick's defensive ability. Yes, he isn't the physical type like Anderson and Fletcher but he kills attacks by anticipating opponents movement. He is a good reader of the game. I don't know what's wrong with fans these days, most of them think that we overpaid for Carrick.

Provided that he was sold to us from SPURS whereby the OWNER of the club hates us so much and try to MILK us as possible as he could. Carrick is a good interceptor. I've seen it many times.
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Damn right. I've seen Carrick doing crucial tackles when our centerbacks weren't there. He's got what Scholes is missing - long legs and good tackling.
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Nov 5 2009, 08:12 PM)
Damn right. I've seen Carrick doing crucial tackles when our centerbacks weren't there. He's got what Scholes is missing - long legs and good tackling.
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Actually against blackburn, Carrick was great. No tough tacklings but he actually won the ball, and he didn't much mistakes that match smile.gif
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And I forgot to mention, he is COOL headed. Calm most of the time and rarely make mistakes. Have that special connection with Berbatov. Somehow, he would always found Berbatov in his long passes.
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Nov 5 2009, 08:12 PM)
Damn right. I've seen Carrick doing crucial tackles when our centerbacks weren't there. He's got what Scholes is missing - long legs and good tackling.
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+1. Crucial tackles in the Sunderland game. It would've been over if we concede another goal at the time
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Nov 4 2009, 09:01 PM)
I WILL. This month, SAF! Mark my words! I'll be there for the Everton Match!
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Go run on the pitch after we score..! Or maybe enjoy the game for 90 mins, just when the assistant ref show the time added on, just go for it! biggrin.gif Just a note.. bring your football boots as well. Those marshals wears them too!

QUOTE(IcyDarling @ Nov 5 2009, 12:58 PM)
Well, the Moscow game simply proves that we are still not ready to let the 2 CB, evans and brown in the big games just yet. Hope Vidic and Ferdinand will be fit against chelsea(Vidic is fit but how bout ferdinand?)

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As a pair maybe it would be a worry, but as individuals, they are more than good enough. Evans last season played against Chelsea twice and did very well considering his age. He also have played against them when on loan at Sunderland. And Brown have proven himself over the years there. Before Vida came, he was the one who partnered Rio, although he missed lots of games through injury and have a stop start career.

QUOTE(sHsIkuA @ Nov 5 2009, 04:41 PM)
Anyone know why Valencia NEVER use his left leg at all? He seems to has a lot of hidden potential and we are YET to see much of them. He can dribble in and take a shot himself but instead always look to pass to someone even if it's a clear cut chance (notice a few times in the CSKA game)

There are mention about his laid back attitude (similar to Scholes) but I really think he should open up a bit... smile.gif

edit : He was in the army last time but I wonder if that's the reason  unsure.gif
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I thought he used his left foot a couple of times in his earlier games to put crosses in, but since then he seems to forget he has one and choose to pass the ball back instead. He seems to be growing in confidence though and have been getting better and better. Although he's predictable, but he seems to be able to still create chances when on the pitch. He'll improve that predictability part once he get to know and trust his RBs.
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Guys, will there be a match view gathering for Chelsea's match?
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Nov 5 2009, 08:51 PM)
Guys, will there be a match view gathering for Chelsea's match?
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i was just about to ask the same question lol
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QUOTE(Wan @ Nov 5 2009, 08:36 PM)
Although he's predictable, but he seems to be able to still create chances when on the pitch. He'll improve that predictability part once he get to know and trust his RBs.
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I believe that might be a problem when he up against Ashley Cole this Sunday? I really doubt his usual move will beat Ashley unsure.gif sweat.gif icon_question.gif
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