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post Aug 19 2009, 12:09 AM
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post Aug 19 2009, 09:39 PM
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do you sand it between 2 aplication?
can you please post the whole process(very detail) of your paint job?
like it very very much
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post Aug 20 2009, 12:30 AM
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QUOTE(yuktsi14 @ Aug 19 2009, 09:39 PM)
do you sand it between 2 aplication?
can you please post the whole process(very detail) of your paint job?
like it very very much
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Thanks.

Below is what I do:
1) Sanding with 2000 grid sand paper. I use a piece of wood as sand block, and I finish by hand the part not accessible with the sand block.
2) I use an alcohol based cleaner to remove any sanding dust and oil/grease from the surface
3) I apply 3 thin layers of primer, about 10 min interval between each application (3 layers is what it takes so I don't see at all the bare metal)
4) I wait about 30 min after the third layer of primer
5) I apply 5 thin layers of paint , about 10 min intervals between each application
6) I let it dry at least 24 hours before to manipulate it by hand. But you need to count 48 hours to consider fully dry.

Note:
- I start directly with 2000 grid because I'm painting bare metal. If there was paint, I think you'd need to start with a lower grid (300-400) to remove the paint and then go progressively go higher in the grid to get a smooth surface
- If you go for a shiny mirror finish, I think you would need to sand slightly between the primer and the paint, and also after the paint to remove the slight "orange peel" texture due to the spray painting. You would also need to apply a clear coat at the end.

Concerning the update on my project, I have sanded and painted more parts today.

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post Aug 20 2009, 03:16 AM
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haha yeap
but actually juz use like 1000grit on primer to get rough surface .
actually even using 1000grit oso not really can see wan .
den juz spray wif watever color u intend .
make sure its very thin layer and apply 3-4 times to get perfectly nice finishing ^^,
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Nice work bro..cant wait for more updates...always love TJ07 but not the time to koyak my pocket..hehehhe...one day tongue.gif
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Wahh good job TS!

luve the fade black colour!

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its not fade black la .
its matte black or flat black @ hitam mati .
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QUOTE(r4st4m4n @ Aug 20 2009, 12:30 AM)
Thanks.

Below is what I do:
1) Sanding with 2000 grid sand paper. I use a piece of wood as sand block, and I finish by hand the part not accessible with the sand block.
2) I use an alcohol based cleaner to remove any sanding dust and oil/grease from the surface
3) I apply 3 thin layers of primer, about 10 min interval between each application (3 layers is what it takes so I don't see at all the bare metal)
4) I wait about 30 min after the third layer of primer
5) I apply 5 thin layers of paint , about 10 min intervals between each application
6) I let it dry at least 24 hours before to manipulate it by hand. But you need to count 48 hours to consider fully dry.

Note:
- I start directly with 2000 grid because I'm painting bare metal. If there was paint, I think you'd need to start with a lower grid (300-400) to remove the paint and then go progressively go higher in the grid to get a smooth surface
- If you go for a shiny mirror finish, I think you would need to sand slightly between the primer and the paint, and also after the paint to remove the slight "orange peel" texture due to the spray painting. You would also need to apply a clear coat at the end.

Concerning the update on my project, I have sanded and painted more parts today.
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can i know the color code of your paint and also the brand?
how much is the primer?
i saw the primer selling at ACE is very expensive

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Primer: Anchor spray paint no 5" => I was a bit worry at the beginning as it is not written primer on it, the only difference with the gray paint is the code and a "P" next to the code. But it seems to do the trick.
Paint: "Toa spray: flat back (not sure if the code is 29 or 21)"

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Each can cost around RM 5-6 smile.gif

Today I did a big mistake though. Yesterday I bought more paint and mistaken the "black" with the "flat black". Result I have to repaint what I did today as I only realized too late, once I started the use the new can I just bought cry.gif

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why dont u just throw to a coating shop n get the coating done in a day or 2 with just only under rm200, saving all the complicated work lol
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why dont u just throw to a coating shop n get the coating done in a day or 2 with just only under rm200, saving all the complicated work lol
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its a thing called fun n experience rite .
wat's d fun of modding if u let others do it for u .
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TJ07 ???? shocking.gif shocking.gif sweat.gif

You got nothing else to do??? shakehead.gif shakehead.gif blink.gif
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wat's wrong wif modding TJ07 ?
i did mine full black interior + laser cut side panel .
TS if u want laser cut tell me ^^,
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QUOTE(monsh @ Aug 21 2009, 03:38 AM)
wat's wrong wif modding TJ07 ?
i did mine full black interior + laser cut side panel .
TS if u want laser cut tell me ^^,
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shocking.gif Nothing wrong..... shocking.gif shocking.gif Nothing wrong indeed sweat.gif

btw, PM sent whistling.gif

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QUOTE(antonio @ Aug 21 2009, 02:12 AM)
TJ07 ????  shocking.gif  shocking.gif  sweat.gif

You got nothing else to do???  shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif  blink.gif
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Hehe, when I'm not having a satay-TT session with you and the rest of the MSR crew, No. I don't have anything better to do tongue.gif


QUOTE(monsh @ Aug 21 2009, 03:38 AM)
wat's wrong wif modding TJ07 ?
i did mine full black interior + laser cut side panel .
TS if u want laser cut tell me ^^,
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May I know how you painted it ? Yourself or in a shop ?

I have painted almost everything I need, except the motherboard tray (I will post pix later). But the motherboard tray is actually chromed, not brushed aluminum. There is another chromed part I have painted which is the PSU bracket, and after checking, the paint chip easily unlike when I paint the brushed aluminum.

So now I'm stuck. From what I've read on the Net, I'd need "self etching primer" which is a special primer that reacts with the metal and grip firmly. The problem is last time when I asked 2 - 3 shops about it, I clearly saw that they didn't have a clue as what it is. I tried to look for it on the Internet but could not find any supplier in Malaysia, except for professional stuff where you need to buy 4-5L and need a spray gun :/

Anyone knows where I can find "(self) etching primer" in spray can ?

I will try to find that tomorrow, if I can't find it, I might have to go to an auto paint shop and ask them to prime the motherboard tray ...

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haha im not sure .
i dont spray everything bro .
some of d parts i just use carbon fibre sticker to bring out d details ^^,
mobo tray i use carbon fibre sticker .
its better cause it looks as if d background is carbon fiber .
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QUOTE(monsh @ Aug 21 2009, 02:49 PM)
haha im not sure .
i dont spray everything bro .
some of d parts i just use carbon fibre sticker to bring out d details ^^,
mobo tray i use carbon fibre sticker .
its better cause it looks as if d background is carbon fiber .
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I see. Not a bad idea indeed. I might steal your idea if I don't find etching primer tongue.gif

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So this is what I have been up to this week:

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I have to say I'm quite happy with the result. After my mistake with wrong black yesterday, I just sprayed two coats of "flat black" over the coat of "shiny black" and it did the trick. No need to sand and repaint the middle plate.

So too illustrate my problem with the chromed piece, below are some pictures:

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On the left, it is the PSU bracket which was chromed. I tried to scratch the paint with a screwdriver, and it chip very easily as you can see on the picture ... So I am a bit worry for the motherboard tray (picture on the left). The plate where the PCI brackets attached is in brushed aluminum, so no problem. But the motherboard backplate is chromed with a mirror finished. So if I use the same process as PSU bracket, the paint will definitely chip after I slide in/out the tray few time sad.gif

I will try to find a solution to this problem this WE. If I don't, I might just paint the brushed aluminum part and left the chromed as it is so I can continue the build. Once I'll finish the first revision, it give me time to search and find a better solution for revision 2 smile.gif
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send the crucial parts go powder coat... lol...

diy is fun, i also diy mine 1/2 way... but due to daily work and only able to paint it in weekend, i decide give up and sent my stacker to powder coat.. in the end, i just paint the mobo tray parts... but the mechanism dont need slide as the stacker tray is screwed onto the casing instead of pulling and pushing...

ps: powder coat are stronger and harder to chip off... let the decision to TS, either take the challenge or like me, scared of wasted work if chipped of, decide to sent it to powder coat for the parts that need to take on and off constantly.

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QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 21 2009, 04:28 PM)
send the crucial parts go powder coat... lol...

diy is fun, i also diy mine 1/2 way... but due to daily work and only able to paint it in weekend, i decide give up and sent my stacker to powder coat.. in the end, i just paint the mobo tray parts... but the mechanism dont need slide as the stacker tray is screwed onto the casing instead of pulling and pushing...

ps: powder coat are stronger and harder to chip off... let the decision to TS, either take the challenge or like me, scared of wasted work if chipped of, decide to sent it to powder coat for the parts that need to take on and off constantly.
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May I know where you did the powder coating ? How much did it cost ?

EDIT: nvm, I found your thread and read the answers.

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