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post Jul 13 2009, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Jul 13 2009, 08:01 PM)
It's a monopoly technique, TM wanna pull customers from JR to TM.
So that JR will go bankrupt. Their next victim is P1 I think. Because by 2010, P1 is covering KL, JB, SBH, SWRK, which is some competition to TM.

So you know TM's evil monopoly la... They sure wil. do something about that.

Or maybe they know that the NGN =/= JR's technology so they just use it to make JR's user suffer.
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In December 2006, the Ministry of Finance, Malaysia officially takes over JARING from MIMOS Berhad. hmm.gif
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@iipohbee @x10amin @everyone else

Using tmnut and having the same problem starting today.
It goes all the way down to 0kB/s just for a few seconds and then resumes.
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QUOTE(x10amin @ Jul 13 2009, 08:05 PM)
In December 2006, the Ministry of Finance, Malaysia officially takes over JARING from MIMOS Berhad.  hmm.gif
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Well, this is Malaysia don't forget. Anything can happen.
BTW I'm getting server error while accessing LYN.

Damn LYN server is down again.
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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Jul 13 2009, 08:01 PM)
It's a monopoly technique, TM wanna pull customers from JR to TM.
So that JR will go bankrupt. Their next victim is P1 I think. Because by 2010, P1 is covering KL, JB, SBH, SWRK, which is some competition to TM.

So you know TM's evil monopoly la... They sure wil. do something about that.

Or maybe they know that the NGN =/= JR's technology so they just use it to make JR's user suffer.
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If this is true then what's the use of using Jaring except for its pricing advantage and less congestion(when there's still low take up in a particular area)?

You would probably want a network which depends entirely on its own network and infrastructure.
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Great,this is clear that TMNut is up to something...

Added on July 13, 2009, 8:10 pm
QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Jul 13 2009, 08:07 PM)
Well, this is Malaysia don't forget. Anything can happen.
BTW I'm getting server error while accessing LYN.

Damn LYN server is down again.
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You mean this?
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post Jul 13 2009, 08:11 PM
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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jul 13 2009, 08:08 PM)
If this is true then what's the use of using Jaring except for its pricing advantage and less congestion(when there's still low take up in a particular area)?

You would probably want a network which depends entirely on its own network and infrastructure.
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Well, with these kind of issues, I don't wanna use JR.
This is what JR users are thinking now, then they switch to TM.

Viola! Plan succeed by TM. Cruel...
Anyhow I fell sad for JR although I'm not using it. The CEO is jumping in pain now. Thinking what to do next...
I think the govt really have to do something now. Or not all the DSLAM is owned by TM and when the govt ope license for foreign ISP,
it'll take many years to make JR available nationwide...
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Damn it,just encouter a "disconnection" like others does...
PPPoE is on but the speed is down and pages stop loading.
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QUOTE(x10amin @ Jul 13 2009, 08:08 PM)
Great,this is clear that TMNut is up to something...

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You mean this?
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Exactly.
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post Jul 13 2009, 08:18 PM
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I got no problem with Jaring.
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QUOTE(Suk @ Jul 13 2009, 08:18 PM)
I got no problem with Jaring.
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Care to share some of your Jaring connection's info such as where you're from, type and package?

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Jul 13 2009, 08:11 PM)
Well, with these kind of issues, I don't wanna use JR.
This is what JR users are thinking now, then they switch to TM.

Viola! Plan succeed by TM. Cruel...
Anyhow I fell sad for JR although I'm not using it. The CEO is jumping in pain now. Thinking what to do next...
I think the govt really have to do something now. Or not all the DSLAM is owned by TM and when the govt ope license for foreign ISP,
it'll take many years to make JR available nationwide...
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Noooo..
Wait let me rephrase my earlier statement:
You would probably want an alternative servcice provider which depends entirely on its own network and infrastructure.


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iiphohbee where r u from ?

Is your area under High speed internet project?
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ok i just found out that if your connection is going through 61.6.3.45, you'll have this timeout problem occasionally. my area can still tracert, i did some testing when the timeout happened, and it seems like this is the server that is dropping 99% of the packets. if you looks at IRREVATION's pingplotter post on page1, you'll see that the problem starts there.
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Oh great, the problem is back today.
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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jul 13 2009, 04:47 PM)
I can understand your path rerouting concept.
The P2P issue I was talking about refers to deep packet inspection(DPI) scheme which is one of the main primary features which NGN networks boast about.
Modern NGNs have the ability to inspect every packet and its content type. By doing so they can choose to allow the packet to be dropped, filtered and given less priority of handling.

The ISP can even put conditions to put less priority or totally block the relevant packets from arriving to destinations/sender should they have reasons.

I put those issues in bold to highlight the problems I'm currently facing.
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Bro,

NGN is next generation network which consist of 3 major hardware:

1) Softswitch
2) Session Border Controller
3) Media Gateway Controller

Most of the packet switching configuration will implement QOS.
The most and high priority packets (6) usually are video and voice.
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iipohbee, please refer to my topic:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1097409

The packet drops are happening "somewhere" in between you and your isp's gateway.

TM's NGN cloud is scrutinizing, munching your data and corrupting them.
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Although I'm not Jaring user, can we use vpn to bypass the packet checking?
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Guess what I have encouter.
Morning:smooth on flash sites+ no anti p2p
Night:Everything is doom

I wonder who is going to explain this to me, I just cannot figure out why.
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QUOTE(x10amin @ Jul 15 2009, 07:55 PM)
Guess what I have encouter.
Morning:smooth on flash sites+ no anti p2p
Night:Everything is doom

I wonder who is going to explain this to me, I just cannot figure out why.
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They throttle everything at night.
Confirmed!
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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ Jul 15 2009, 07:57 PM)
They throttle everything at night.
Confirmed!
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How you get the conclusion?
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How you get the conclusion?
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Lol, it's IMHO.
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