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PJusa
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Calmman,

i am not in the business. i used TCL and they did a good job - not the cheapest insulation but its very well done and fast. i would recommend them.

with respect to the foil: if you ask your contractor to seal the foil properly you wont have any overlapping-flapping issue. in fact my contractor overlapped then joined the endings (kind of folding whatever) and then stapled the whole thing to a tight set of wooden trusses. this way you effective create a second roof just a little under the tiles. if you allow for ventilation, the heat will heat up the air between the tiles and the foil and gets disspated from there. you keep your roof cooler to begin with. the alluminium foil wont help if you place it loosely or worse on top of the cellulose. i think under the tiles it does make a difference. and since its not too costly it's a good extra smile.gif
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Jul 24 2009, 07:17 PM)
can confirm TCl is good with cellulose. used them. roof is closed. never reaches above 31°
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Can you advise where are the areas to install with this TCL cellulose ?

You mean the whole house never reaches 31 deg. celcius? shocking.gif
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post Aug 4 2009, 11:19 AM
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i installed it in the entire roof. the ceiling temperature does not exceed 31° since we installed it along with the relective foil to form a second roof under the tiles. i am not sure how the effect will look like if you only do the cellulose. in other words, we dont get any heating effect from the ceiling anymore. my neighbour who has no insulation (but the roof ventilators installed) has had 38° while our ceiling stood at 31° - we did a comparison test once.
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How about the performance of using Turbine Ventilator? This is much more cheaper to install. smile.gif

One of the installer website:
http://www.taika.enetmyne.com/
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dont think its that great HappyGuy - my neighbour has two in his roof. his roof is 38° when mine is 31°. go figure smile.gif

might be good as an added benefit though. i dont have one installed.
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What is the typical cost of doing this Insulator for a standard Double Storey Terrace... say around 1500 Sqft.

Any idea?


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paid around 3.30/sqft, so 5k
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Aug 5 2009, 08:38 PM)
paid around 3.30/sqft, so 5k
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since need to take out all the roof tiles, and install...will it affect the original
tiles position...and cause possible water seaping... ???
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no need to take out ALL roof tiles. they come with a long vaccum-like-tube to blow the stuff in. for my place 4 openings were needed (large single story house). smaller roof might need less.
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QUOTE(shchoy @ Aug 5 2009, 06:16 PM)
What is the typical cost of doing this Insulator for a standard Double Storey Terrace... say around 1500 Sqft.

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1500 Sqft refer to your roof area or ceiling area?

I was told the material are installed on top of the ceiling, so you should measure the ceiling area of your 1st floor if yours is a double storey house.
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@Calmman
You can always ask them to come over and measure your ceiling then quote you the pricing.
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Hi to all,

I was trying to search for a authenticate and long run solution of pest, as my home got many Roaches & white ants,
On internet search I found this “Cellulose Material”

http://forum.setiaalam.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3621&start=0
http://www.usj.com.my/bulletin/upload/show...43&page=3&pp=15
http://www.tclmalaysia.com

I found its quite effective product for thermal and acoustic insulation… and your ppl’s testimonies are more insisting me to apply this cellulose in my home….
Now I’m just trying to get any testimony regarding pest control…. Any experience by cellulose user? Please share your idea, becoz I’m almost ready to apply now…


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never had any problems with ants or roaches but i am not sure if i can generalise from my place to others. its an old renovated house (50s) but we took great care to close the thing up. so over the last 18 months we had two (2) roaches who both came through the tub since the blasted installer didnt bother to put the U-tube in place. did that myself after i found out and havent seen any roaches at all so far.

i read that cellulose is helping with termites and all. roaches dont usually come through the roof so probably different combat needed there. we have no ants in the house if you exclude the super tiny ones that like to eat spill-overs.
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Aug 6 2009, 09:01 PM)
never had any problems with ants or roaches but i am not sure if i can generalise from my place to others. its an old renovated house (50s) but we took great care to close the thing up. so over the last 18 months we had two (2) roaches who both came through the tub since the blasted installer didnt bother to put the U-tube in place. did that myself after i found out and havent seen any roaches at all so far.

i read that cellulose is helping with termites and all. roaches dont usually come through the roof so probably different combat needed there. we have no ants in the house if you exclude the super tiny ones that like to eat spill-overs.
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if the cellulose insulation helps to control termites and roaches, then it is an added advantage.

for my case, i am very much concern if the west wall is not insulated, the cost spent on roof insulation would help to reduce the heat or not?
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post Aug 8 2009, 11:27 AM
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@easyperson
Roof insulation will definitely help, every single item that will help in reducing heat. This include installing a ventilator turbine combined with insulator to dissipate heat faster in the roof. As for wall, you might want to consider those sunlight reflective coating paint. I'm not certain on the effectiveness though as time passes due to the fact that rain and dust will reduce the reflective surface. No?
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QUOTE(easyperson @ Aug 8 2009, 11:17 AM)
i read that cellulose is helping with termites and all. roaches dont usually come through the roof so probably different combat needed there. we have no ants in the house if you exclude the super tiny ones that like to eat spill-overs.
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QUOTE(easyperson @ Aug 8 2009, 11:17 AM)
if the cellulose insulation helps to control termites and roaches, then it is an added advantage.
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Yes, I also found this material” pest control material”
So I studied their website and personally met them, so they told that defiantly its Pest control Material, its imported from US, and proven 99.7% killing roaches, ants, termites and other insects, they mentioned many insects, but I forgot their names now… whistling.gif yes millipedes & silverfish also…
So basically this material is for thermal & acoustic insulation, pest control and fire resistance is the additional features of this material.
Cost wise its not bad, if we evaluate and count this material in long run, as they mentioned that this product is for life time, and energy saving material, safe, healthy, natural, green product blah blah blah rclxub.gif ….. donno what what what else doh.gif they mentioned many advantage of this material.

SO NOW I think I’m going to insulate my whole house with this Cellulose insulation, (Roof & Walls) in next week, and if they are professional and committed to their statements will be very appreciative

Any experience, any idea, any advice, any suggestion….. share it pls…. notworthy.gif



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There question I'm seeking here is:
Cellulose insulation better or Rockwool insulation better in long run?

(As in my first post, but I'm glad that many people start to have interest in such product.)
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Super_Lutein,

how much they quote for the walls? can you share how this is done. i am planning to do this with TCL probably next year. when we did the roof it was too much hassle to also do walls but for the bedroom side of the house i feel i might gain a bit (also make the house more silent... the sound insulation from the roof is great). did they give you a price already for the wall?
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when do we normally do this house insulation? after all other renovation works have been completed?

i'm also interested in this product
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QUOTE(PJusa @ Aug 9 2009, 09:56 AM)
Super_Lutein,

how much they quote for the walls? can you share how this is done. i am planning to do this with TCL probably next year. when we did the roof it was too much hassle to also do walls but for the bedroom side of the house i feel i might gain a bit (also make the house more silent... the sound insulation from the roof is great). did they give you a price already for the wall?
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Quoted 3.60/ per Sq,ft, but depend on size or location, im not so far from TCL so they quoted me this price, (For Roof only) for others location i donno well,
and for walls; let me finish my Roof first in next week, and thn i will try to do my walls, maybe in next month... coz it’s so hard to start everything at once... better do step by step.. isnt? Whats your advice PJ?
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