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Welcome to V28!!!!!!!!!

Previous thread (V27)>>>HERE<<<

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Alpha User List :

A100
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A200
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A300
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A900
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p.m. me if you wanna add ur name icon_rolleyes.gif

Alpha street pricelist courtesy of albnok ***updated 1st April 2009***
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>>>Sony Alpha F.A.Q<<< courtesy of Ahmike

Common Kelvin White Balance Settings :
2500K - very strong orange tungsten light
2800K - strong orange tungsten light
3200K - yellowish tungsten light
4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it)
5500K - flash
6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light)
9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light

Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.

Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You

should be able to do this with practice.

With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!

M = Magenta
G = Green
2500K = Blue
9900K = Amber

Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is

too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K

M9.

To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these

methods, or a combination of them:

- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11)
- use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100)
- use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a

second)
- use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash

Sony Alpha Lens Line-up : HERE courtesy

of vcxv


Below are the official additional accessories* that comes with respective Sony Alpha camera :

Flash hotshoe cover (Sony FASHC1AM) - A100, A700, A900
Remote Commander clip - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700, A900
Eyepiece cover / flash hotshoe cover holder - A100, A200, A300, A350, A700
Cheap Sony neckstrap vmad.gif - A200, A300, A350
Good Sony neckstrap - A100, A700, A900
Wireless Infrared Remote Control - A700, A900

* list provided by albnok

Sony Alpha Support Page and Alpha User Manuals :

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How to clean your Alpha sensor by albnok :



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as usual, Alpha users who wants the userbar..

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Me 2nd. Will post my Stealth A200 afterwards. tongue.gif


Here's my Stealth Alpha for those wondering what it's all about. I was supposed to do a write up on how I did it but haven't until now due to unforeseen circumstances. It should be done in a few days. Have to go to my other house n get the stealth materials 1st coz this house don't have the materials I need.

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waiting for ur write-up...smile.gif...looks like photoshop because it seems too clean..hehe
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QUOTE(Sp00kY @ Jun 25 2009, 04:27 PM)
waiting for ur write-up...smile.gif...looks like photoshop because it seems too clean..hehe
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No photoshop ler. I dont even know how to Photoshop. laugh.gif I never bothered to learn Photoshop until now.
My camera has been like that since I did the stealth mod. It looks super clean in that pic coz it's dark. It's clean but not imperceptible if u have the camera in ur hands.

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QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 25 2009, 04:07 PM)
Me 2nd. Will post my Stealth A200 afterwards.  tongue.gif
Here's my Stealth Alpha for those wondering what it's all about. I was supposed to do a write up on how I did it but haven't until now due to unforeseen circumstances. It should be done in a few days. Have to go to my other house n get the stealth materials 1st coz this house don't have the materials I need.
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ahh.... too clean.... kikis or acid bath or use demn pricy sticky tape?
so haf u done it at the lenses too? hmm.gif
i wanna do it too... but thinking i might sell it 1 day (if i'm upgrading later) kacau la...
devalued the items edi... sweat.gif


@Sp00kY: show la what haf u done.... normal rectangle or fishy ??

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Welcome back guardians of the Sony Alpha thread!

And yes, ianho's A200 was the inspiration for my formerly stealth A900. biggrin.gif
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I just read in a magazine about this pro who jumped from Canon EOS 1Ds mk3 with every single L lens to A900. Pretty impressive story. He explained about why he jumped. He says it was mainly coz a lot of the L lens cannot keep up with the resolution of the 1Ds mk3 oredi coz those were old lenses made b4 the 1Ds mk3 appeared. In comparison the A900 has an all new array of CZ n G lenses specifically made for it. Mebe u guys can google for it.

Very interesting read and also lotsa superb pictures demonstrating the excellent dynamic range of the A900. I was awed by it actually, many were shot direct into sun n the subjects still can see with nice bright colors!



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Welcome back guardians of the Sony Alpha thread!

And yes, ianho's A200 was the inspiration for my formerly stealth A900. biggrin.gif
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Eh the A900 un stealth oredi kar?

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QUOTE(dingenius3 @ Jun 25 2009, 04:37 PM)
ahh.... too clean.... kikis or acid bath or use demn pricy sticky tape?
so haf u done it at the lenses too?  hmm.gif
i wanna do it too... but thinking i might sell it 1 day (if i'm upgrading later) kacau la...
devalued the items edi...  sweat.gif
@Sp00kY: show la what haf u done.... normal rectangle or fishy ??
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u mean fish-eye merge?no la..i mean normal MERGE eheheh
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Wow! Canon user jump ship to Alpha! Big news! Ahahahahahaha!

I oso wan the A900 ler... but no $$$ ... who can sponsor me???

No wan to go Lorong Haki Taib ler.... so don't suggest ok?

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no doubt la..i find a200 dynamic range nicer than tamron+40d...maybe its just me
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Uncle IanHo.... dun just say it lah. Provide the link also so that some of us can be inspired by this person's photos. Hehehe..... laugh.gif

Welcome back, uncle Ian! We all misses you. Oh, am I on the 1st page too? Now THAT is a FIRST for me.... *hehehe*

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QUOTE(ianho @ Jun 25 2009, 05:06 PM)
I just read in a magazine about this pro who jumped from Canon EOS 1Ds mk3 with every single L lens to A900. Pretty impressive story. He explained about why he jumped. He says it was mainly coz  a lot of the L lens cannot keep up with the resolution of the 1Ds mk3 oredi coz those were old lenses made b4 the 1Ds mk3 appeared. In comparison the A900 has an all new array of CZ n G lenses specifically made for it.  Mebe u guys can google for it.

Very interesting read and also lotsa superb pictures demonstrating the excellent dynamic range of the A900. I was awed by it actually, many were shot direct into sun n the subjects still can see with nice bright colors!
Eh the A900 un stealth oredi kar?
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uncle can give some hints to google? i tried "Canon EOS 1Ds mkiii jump to A900" but not find that guy..
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QUOTE(noprob @ Jun 25 2009, 06:03 PM)
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This has something to do with dynamic range also. Yes, the A900 has an amazing amount of latitude to pull shadows and highlights with.

Interesting thing about skintones and greens, is the CFA (Color Filtration Array) used;

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The human eye, which most digital cameras model their color filters after, has much more overlap in color channels than film normally has. The A900 CFA's more closely resemble a film color response.

You can read more about the difference here by using the graphs on page 15. Sony is more similar to the graph on the right, whereas Canon/Nikon are more similar to graph on the left (although Canon and Nikon have different channels that overlap):

Sekonic pdf

Because there is less overlap in greens compared to Nikon, Sony is able to render less mushy grass. Because there is less overlap in the blues compared to Canon, Sony is able to render less mushy skin.

The disadvantage of this is, because the CFAs are denser with Sony, it causes more noise, because there is less light hitting the sensor, which results in needing higher amplification for high ISO values. Medium Format Digital Backs have a similar problem.

Sony could choose the more popular route of sacrificing color for better high ISO performance, in order to appease reviewers, but I'm happy with their decision. The A900 is starting to develop a nice little user base of former Nikon/Canon shooters for this very reason.


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QUOTE(albnok @ Jun 25 2009, 06:14 PM)
This has something to do with dynamic range also. Yes, the A900 has an amazing amount of latitude to pull shadows and highlights with.

Interesting thing about skintones and greens, is the CFA (Color Filtration Array) used;
Taken from here.
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Now that's interesting. I did knew that Sony HAD to have something in benefit by sacrificing ISO performance. I mean, surely a large corporation with long history would know how to implement such a thing, eh?
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