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Terence573
post Oct 5 2009, 11:17 PM


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 5 2009, 11:07 PM)
Nope I still din get refund from zer0 yet.
On last Friday Tribunal asked me whether he refund me or not.
They sent a 2nd reminder to zer0 right after that.
I dun think zer0 is a negotiable person since last time he repeated continuously that he wont refund me & challenged me to Tribunal & will see what is the outcome then. Now I won the case & he disappears.
All I can do the next step is contact Tribunal only. Let see how their response.
I also would like to see how powerful is the Tribunal
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hu sad to see the outcome like this.

still insist he is not wrong meh but the tribunal has spoken.

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post Oct 6 2009, 03:36 PM


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I'm back.

As previously stated, I was in an accident, and was away for some time. Today is the first time I have had any updates at all, so this is new to me.

Owikh:
1. I have not received any mail from the tribunal since I requested for a postponement due to the accident.
2. If as you say they rescheduled the hearing (without my knowledge) and judged in your favor (due to my absence) is there a written judgment? If there is, I have not received it. It's only fair that I be sent the black and white.
3. If there is a written judgment, I will either refund or seek judicial review as necessary, depending on reasons spelled out in the written judgment.
4. I'm not a 'non-negotiable person'. If the findings are that I was contractually liable for safe delivery to you, and not just to the courier, then I will refund you.
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@owikh84,do you have a written order of court decision?Mind to post it up if you have any??
As of today,zer0hour haven't receive any written order yet and is already past 14days smile.gif
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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Oct 6 2009, 03:36 PM)
I'm back.

As previously stated, I was in an accident, and was away for some time. Today is the first time I have had any updates at all, so this is new to me.

Owikh:
1. I have not received any mail from the tribunal since I requested for a postponement due to the accident.
2. If as you say they rescheduled the hearing (without my knowledge) and judged in your favor (due to my absence) is there a written judgment? If there is, I have not received it. It's only fair that I be sent the black and white.
3. If there is a written judgment, I will either refund or seek judicial review as necessary, depending on reasons spelled out in the written judgment.
4. I'm not a 'non-negotiable person'. If the findings are that I was contractually liable for safe delivery to you, and not just to the courier, then I will refund you.
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Pls check your yahoo mail bro.
Attached here is a copy of the declaration from Tribunal.
But I will also request Tribunal to send you a hard copy as if required.
You may contact them at 03-78777009 & the ref. no. is TTPM-P-(B)-241-2009.
Attached File  B8_TTPM_P__B__241_2009_418812449QD0TR1_1.doc ( 30k ) Number of downloads: 168
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post Oct 6 2009, 10:13 PM


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 6 2009, 08:45 PM)
Pls check your yahoo mail bro.
Attached here is a copy of the declaration from Tribunal.
But I will also request Tribunal to send you a  hard copy as if required.
You may contact them at 03-78777009 & the ref. no. is TTPM-P-(B)-241-2009.
Attached File  B8_TTPM_P__B__241_2009_418812449QD0TR1_1.doc ( 30k ) Number of downloads: 168

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Bro thanks for the info, I've replied your PM as well. I've seriously received zero documents since the 2nd adjournment, none via email as well.
As for the hard copy, yes, I do feel I need it. A binding court order should be signed and stamped by the presiding authority no?
Also there's the issue of informal vs formal channels, this is an informal channel, binding orders must come via formal channels..

In the meantime, as this is a civil case and we are working through the legal system, will you do me the courtesy of removing my personal information?
You have my contact info, hp no etc in any case should you need to reach me.
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post Oct 7 2009, 10:51 AM


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bro ts, just my opinion
you are supposed to be communicating with the tribunal regarding this case
you are fighting against zerohour
you are not supposed to agree with any of his/her opinion/statement before u win the case
actually u won the case but u have not get the reward
so anyway, if 14 days has passed you should already get your reward
or you can let tribunal know for further action.
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post Oct 7 2009, 04:17 PM


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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Oct 6 2009, 10:13 PM)
Bro thanks for the info, I've replied your PM as well. I've seriously received zero documents since the 2nd adjournment, none via email as well.
As for the hard copy, yes, I do feel I need it. A binding court order should be signed and stamped by the presiding authority no?
Also there's the issue of informal vs formal channels, this is an informal channel, binding orders must come via formal channels..

In the meantime, as this is a civil case and we are working through the legal system, will you do me the courtesy of removing my personal information?
You have my contact info, hp no etc in any case should you need to reach me.
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Requested an original hard copy of Award from Tribunal today & sent the defendant copy (with signed & stamped by Tribunal) to you just now by registered post (Pos Daftar Akuan Terima)
Again, send me the proof of receipt card to me once u received it.
You must refund me within 14 days from the day you receive it. nod.gif
Legal action will be taken if you failed to do so. It is written in the 4-page Award.
You will be categorized as criminal under Consumer Protection Act (APP) 1999 as follows:

1) Section 117 (1) APP
1st Crime: fined not more than RM5000 or jailed not more than 2 years or both.

2) Section 117 (2) APP
Continuous Crime: penalty as above & further fined not more than RM1000 daily

I promise that your personal details will be removed from this thread once I got ur refund of RM2050.
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post Oct 24 2009, 05:18 PM


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 7 2009, 05:17 PM)
Requested an original hard copy of Award from Tribunal today & sent the defendant copy (with signed & stamped by Tribunal) to you just now by registered post (Pos Daftar Akuan Terima)
Again, send me the proof of receipt card to me once u received it.
You must refund me within 14 days from the day you receive it.  nod.gif
Legal action will be taken if you failed to do so. It is written in the 4-page Award.
You will be categorized as criminal under Consumer Protection Act (APP) 1999 as follows:

1) Section 117 (1) APP
1st Crime: fined not more than RM5000 or jailed not more than 2 years or both.

2) Section 117 (2) APP
Continuous Crime: penalty as above & further fined not more than RM1000 daily

I promise that your personal details will be removed from this thread once I got ur refund of RM2050.
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Is it already 14 days from the date u posted there?

Did zero get the letter?
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post Oct 24 2009, 06:48 PM


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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Oct 24 2009, 05:18 PM)
Is it already 14 days from the date u posted there?

Did zero get the letter?
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Yupe, he already got the letter, but still doesn't wanna refund. sweat.gif
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post Oct 24 2009, 07:47 PM


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QUOTE(owikh84 @ Oct 24 2009, 06:48 PM)
Yupe, he already got the letter, but still doesn't wanna refund. sweat.gif
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Don't jump to conclusions pls.
I have a timeframe of 14 days, within which I have the freedom to seek further advice, legal redress, etc.

I also retain the right to judicial appeal and review, as in any legal matter.

Since I am in legal consultations now, I will not comment on my further action, but be assured I am aware of the timeframe, and will act accordingly.
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TS your the man... FINALLY someone has the brains to take act against a person in LYN for fraudulent...

how nice...

when is the case commencing ?

I want to go be an audience... =)
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in my opinion, the personal information should NOT be removed. This is clearly a fraud case.

The personal details there is for people to refer in case the conman try to cheat again. If you don't want your name to be posted then don't cheat people.
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post Nov 3 2009, 06:29 PM


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QUOTE(zer0hour @ Oct 24 2009, 07:47 PM)
Don't jump to conclusions pls.
I have a timeframe of 14 days, within which I have the freedom to seek further advice, legal redress, etc.

I also retain the right to judicial appeal and review, as in any legal matter.

Since I am in legal consultations now, I will not comment on my further action, but be assured I am aware of the timeframe, and will act accordingly.
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bro i've pm u bout out case do reply me soon
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post Nov 3 2009, 11:48 PM


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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Nov 3 2009, 07:29 PM)
bro i've pm u bout out case do reply me soon
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wow case in another case?

btw whats the outcome of this case?
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QUOTE(Terence573 @ Nov 3 2009, 11:48 PM)
wow case in another case?

btw whats the outcome of this case?
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my case happend since February, today just get leter from paslaju and poslaju just pay rm300 for the item lost. i really not setiscifed with the refund and ask seller aka zer0hour to pay the rest, for win-win situation we both bare th lost... he must pay me at less half of the transection amount.. and what i cam tell taht zer0hour won't pay for sure... again... this case is mistake from beginning... zer0hout declare item value rm2k, no insurance... item in parcel lost and from investigation pos malaysia admitted that was insider job... yet still dont want to make full refund... i guss need to make police case and bring to tribunal agains poslaju
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QUOTE(arjuna_mfna @ Nov 4 2009, 02:24 AM)
my case happend since February, today just get leter from paslaju and poslaju just pay rm300 for the item lost. i really not setiscifed with the refund and ask seller aka zer0hour to pay the rest, for win-win situation we both bare th lost... he must pay me at less half of the transection amount.. and what i cam tell taht zer0hour won't pay for sure... again... this case is mistake from beginning... zer0hout declare item  value rm2k, no insurance... item in parcel lost and from investigation pos malaysia admitted that was insider job... yet still dont want to make full refund... i guss need to make police case and bring to tribunal agains poslaju
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^ in referring the above case

If poslaju mistake then why put blame on zerohour ? if everytime item sold by seller lost because of Poslaju's silly worker job then all seller mati liao...i noe the buyer pays the money too,but in this case Poslaju sure is th eone to blame,10% of the blame goes to zerohour for not insuring the parcel but if put insurance item oso lost they wont refund fully....Poslaju has to be responsible at all cost
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QUOTE(asamkipas @ Nov 4 2009, 06:45 AM)
^ in referring the above case

If poslaju mistake then why put blame on zerohour ? if everytime item sold by seller lost because of Poslaju's silly worker job then all seller mati liao...i noe the buyer pays the money too,but in this case Poslaju sure is th eone to blame,10% of the blame goes to zerohour for not insuring the parcel but if put insurance item oso lost they wont refund fully....Poslaju has to be responsible at all cost
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I agree, no point in blaming zerohour since Poslaju already admit that it is insider's job. Instead of blaming zerohour, you can do what TS do, refer your case to the consumer tribunal and see if they can do anything about it.
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well to be clear its two case here.

the one u mentioned was arjuna's case with conclusion and tat was insider job steal the item.( according to arjuna statement)
but in owikh case, the item where abouts still remain unknown.

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It's has been 14 days since Zerohour last posted here.
So what is the outcome from his legal advisor?
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QUOTE(thteong82 @ Nov 10 2009, 11:56 AM)
It's has been 14 days since Zerohour last posted here.
So what is the outcome from his legal advisor?
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According to zer0hour he had sent a cheque for RM2050 to me on 4th Nov morning.
But until now I didn't see the cheque & no reply from zer0hour when I asked him about how did he send the cheque.
Looks like he wanna make me drag the case to civil court soon.
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