The names are confusing. Based on dpreview, the SD 870IS is the same as Ixus 860IS, and the SD 880IS is the same as Ixus 870IS.

I think what people mean here is the new Ixus 870IS which is new model from the Ixus 860IS in this thread.

IMO, the 860IS is an easier camera to use for most people. I chose it for the big screen, wide angle view and I don't require the viewfinder or additional manual controls. Easy for the whole family to use.

I think the 960IS has more manual controls, a smaller screen and a viewfinder, more for people who want to tweak their shots.

i am almost into 860IS.. also for the same reason 3" screen as most of the other features are almost the same except for the wide angle.

i was initially holding back on the 12mp but after hearing so many feedback that i dont actually require 12mp unless i am printing poster. this 1 clear.

i was also undicided on the viewfinder which many of them said it's useful during the strong sunlight & at night which makes the screen useless when shooting picture. that's where the viewfinder comes in handy. can provide some info on this??

& the last thing is the 28mm vs 36mm. is wide angle really handy? there are many feedbackc on the distortion problem, if i do not want the trouble of manual adjusting using external software, can this be eliminated?

would appreciate some guide.. new here..

yeap... wat sinclair said is true. u dun need a viewfinder for a PnS bcoz PnS used to see through LCD. if u wan manual control go for semi-pro as those camera like S5 IS and it is also very cheap at less than 1.5k...
n if u insist to see through viewfinder u also cannot see it clearly bcoz it is very very small.
my 1st PnS (IXUS 55) also hv a viewfinder but i never use it... u just spoil ur eyes

the viewfinder is too small to be usefull.. okay. but how about the problem that others pointed out where the LCD is almost impossible too look at when it's under the strong sunlight or at night. any experience on this?

u still can see but very dark... since u r so interest into photography u should buy a dslr it is a total different experience

yeah.. i am very interested into photography but am too newbie to produce picture work with dslr. will go for a compact one & slowly into dslr.

i recon the fun of dslr like what you said.. a totally different experience

Thanks for the advise.. I bought from kms without the 4G SD card (since I already got 1) at RM650
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=797619

Now I'm an owner's of IXUS 860IS. So far I like it very much.

congrats u will even like it when compared with others that got only 35mm wide

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Added on October 1, 2008, 3:07 pm
if u really want to switch to DLSR in the future then buy any PnS that u like... save some money for the DSLR

Congrats on getting your 860IS and at a very good price too.

Show us any good pictures that you have taken.

photos taken during trip to kundasang war memorial and pine resort in sabah. manual mode, just adjust exposure settings, iso 100,vivid colour. trying to get the exact exposure based on what i see during that time.

Last night in Genting

nice pic

by the way.. i see some white spots all over on the night pic at genting.. what causes that? or that's normal??

too high ISO i guess

The sky looks a bit grainy. What settings were you using for those shots?

Manual = Infinity + ISO800
whats a better setting for this enviroment?

one thing for sure, my 860is is a life saver.. it took video where no normal man would venture.... my wife's 2nd son labor ordeal in full awesomeness... serious good video recording quality... it really captured the "feel" hehehehe. Hope my wife wont stumble upon this entry hehehehe.. will try to edit and post a snippet..

if you want a best quality, never use ISO higher than 200.

for this enviroment, no human (movement) in the photo, u can use manual mode, low ISO, Infinity, low shutter speed (try 2" ) and u need a tripod to stable ur camera. else, with low ISO & Shutter, your photo with blur with hand shake..

just my self learning on this camera..hope i not provide wrong info..

low ISO will make the pic kinda dim

from my point of view ur pictures is considered good bcoz it is a PnS, there is a limit a PnS can do...
the white spot is actually the cloud that reflect the brightness of the city...
actually decrease the shutter speed to 2 or 3 seconds will help if u wan to decrease the ISO speed

how to reduce shutter speed with this baby?

u use manual is it? press set and all the setting like manual/exposure compensation/WB/color/pics quality will appear at the left side of the lcd screen is it? scroll to exposure compensation and press the display button and u will notice the +/- exposure bracket will change to number... from there u can set the shutter speed up to 30 seconds max

Longer exposure shots definitely need tripod.

I believe other had answer your question on the shutter speed. By lower the shutter speed, you will allow camera to capture more light, so your photo will have enough brightness. A tripod is a must when shutter slow more than a second.

Hi all i got a question hope u all can help me..actually i dont owned a canon digi cam yet but im planning to get 1 soon so need reccomendation from u all..

Im planning to get either canon ixus 860 or canon ixus 970.Which is better ah and what is the good and bad point of both??

Sorry im a totally noob in cameras..only thing i know is 970 has more M.P and optical zoom but 860 has wide screen lo..i only need to take normal pic only..

if you often take group photos, wide lens is better.

Dont think very often will take this kinda group pics but what im concern now is the quality of the pic the optical zoom and m.p does it make a big different?

Explain on the pixel:
http://www.shotaddict.com/forum/sutra1133.php

Buying guide:
Buying Guide


In short, the quality is not affect by optical Zoom and m.p.

Optical zoom - allow you the zoom the object nearer, so you able to take object that far away from you in bigger object size. However, the further you zoom, the easy you get shake on the photo, so you need a tripod when using zooming.

M.p - 8MP allow you to print in A3 size paper. (i don't think you will need to print in such a large size ?) So, 8MP is enough. Some people brought 10MP camera but set the camera to save in 5MP to save stroge memory. Because, the higher MP, the size of each photo will need more storage area. Which means, you will need huge memory card to keep more high MP photo. Oh ya, besides print out..high MP photo also allow you to zoom in more in computer. However, you allow need to zoom in a lot on photo ?

Ask youself on above question, will help you to decide the camera that you need..

hope help.

Ok thanks bro..it really appreciate it alot.

this is wat i encounter early this year when i buying this PnS... my mind is only 960IS which is rm200 more expensive but then the promoter said u take pics with PnS no need bigger MP and recommend me 860IS

then she compare this 2 camera side by side and i was shock i stunned how a 28mm wide can include more things in it... then i straight buy this camera

perhaps paikut, u also can tell them to demo it to u

Well 1 stupid questions ah what is PNS??

Well they demo to me already but i still dono whcich to get ahaha but most prob ill go for 860 as its cheaper lo..and the guy keep on pushing panasonic lumix to me say its good this tat say their lens 1 of the best.. dono true o not la..

BTW if the 860 RM1000 with 4GB memory wat u all think??good price??

PNS = Point and Shoot, simple for everybody to use.

Well, the price I paid for mine was RM999 + 2GB + 1GB + screen protector + mini tripod + steel strap last PCFair. I think if you check at e-mart or e-warehouse at Pudu, maybe you can get a better deal. With the introduction of the 870IS recently, the price should have fallen more.

Ic but problem is my location is in KK sabah lo..so sad..will be going kl for short trip this month end os plan to get lo a PNS well what is the main differences for 860 vs 870?and how much is the price for 870 ah??

The most obvious differences is that the 870IS has more pixels (10MP) than the 860IS, which is not really needed IMO, and different button layout at the back.

I see most Canon new products would be priced about RM1,400 ++, then would settle down around RM1,299. Was the same for the 860IS I think.

OK icic but i always thought the more M.P and the more Optical Zoom is better haha so just hope the price will fall more for the 860 than ill be a happy buyer

bro paikut, since u're in kk, y dun you cek this one camera shop in kk plaza. syarikat cpl. i bought mine there last year. authorised canon dealer too.

Oh sweet ill go check it out thanks mate..actually i went there before dy but i dono which shop was it 1was offering me 1k the other shop offers me 999 for 860 ...think might go check it out this thursday o friday cant wait to own 1of it but sad it gonna burn a hole in my pocket..

hi hi new here and also 860IS owner
here are some pic shot today

Wow nice photos Redcross.

Good enough for Sunway Pyramid brochure methinks.

thanks
no lah still cant be pyramid brochure
me still noob in photography la, jus pick up photography this year
btw the pics are taken in Digi Macro function

wow PnS only but pics like shoot from a DSLR

haha thanks
but when zoom in, can see alot of pixelated
i set my pic quality to 5mp quality

Sorry another stupid question again..using slr and pns cameras really can see the differences?why slr so expensive can reach 5digits in price?

Really big different...
and if play DSLR = burn money if you really too poisoned.

yeah a very expensive hobby and i addicted liao cannot go back

if ur friend hv a dslr maybe u can take his and shoot some landscape then compare to ur PnS... maybe u can see the different
advantage is more picture details, the pic is even sharper with dslr and u wont get any problems shooting in night scene

was the shot with tripod?

Oh really???but if from the pic only can tell ka??i only know its really darn expensive la 1 lens only already coast few hundred to thousands haha..my uncle and my bro using but...i dont see anything special la cause im really a total noob in cameras.. sorry hehe all the while i only use my phone to take pic haha compact

photography is a long process

hi all today i just bought my very 1st 860...haha so happy i got it forr rm965 with full set +4gb memory+screen protector+camera bag...how is it?do i get a good bargain?

Is the 4GB memory is SDHC ? Class 4 or Class 6?

Quite good bargain..i believe.. i brought with RM1,500 last dec. That time SDHC still expensive, and 4 GB SDHC have class 4 only..

hmm.. Digital Macro?
But I thought Macro is for close up? I don't know, still fresh in this.