if u open 2 windows.. make sure from different files..

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normally brisbane limits @ 3.1-3.2.. so just use 3.0 like that..

Oc Brisbane update.

Try OC with CM Aquagate Viva +80mm Fan (Replacing the AC FrezeerPro 64)



````````````````````` Clock Speed ````Temperature
AC FrezeerPro 64 ~~~~~ 2400 ~~~~ 40 C
CM Aquagate Viva ~~~~~ 2400 ~~~~ 45-50 C


Conclusion
1. Cancel the OC attemp
2. CM Aquagate Viva Sxxk (Cannot use tho cool CPU), Not as advertised

haha CM always like that...

AC good on low temp.. on high temp can't transfer well...
maybe that aquagate better handling on >55C..

low end wc always dissapointin for sure...

grab a high end air coolin instead if heavy oc is to be done...

Thinking going for HTPC if the Temp is quiet good . BUT.....

Grab Peltier better..
Can reduce to 20C without any watercooling needed.Just HSF + extra PSU maybe..

Price gonna drop for AMD processor wor....Anyone get it??

-pWs-

Any suggestions?

9950 is very affordable now, if someone gonna get a amd quaddy, 9950 would be d only choice. (price difference is not really big)

where's imsmiko...


my vote goes to 9950 b.e...

Im here. watching and stalking you guys.
Ohh. Im getting my pc end of next month.
Proposed spec as per my signature.

Fuiyooooooooo....Rich gal gal.
Fan can get Sunbeamtech.

-pWs-

redscorpion mite not be able to tame d chip, true mite be a better choice...

i'm out on getttin a giga's ds4, it costs too much if compared to d price sold @ newegg...

2x2GB Team Extreem DDR2 1066 RAM ??

Wat i know got Team Xtreem.....Team Extreem ??

2 x 2GB only hv Team Xtreem Dark DDR2 series only

im 1st time oc my com.. is this ok ??

thinking that also. will see how?
No rich la.



can get but ave to buy silverstone 100cfm fan and use it on that. should improve the airflow.



Typo. What other choice I have. Care to suggest?

Increase orthos priority to 8

Apart from that, nothing much wrong. Keep and eye and try to pass 8 hours test . Then later try tweaking the ram.

I have a good news here...

[Xbit] AMD Quietly Starts to Sell Dual-Core Phenom Microprocessors.

AMD’s Partners Begin to Offer AMD Phenom X2 GE Processors

Advanced Micro Devices has quietly started to sell dual-core microprocessors featuring the latest K10 micro-architecture in Europe, at least, based on the results from a search engine. If the information is correct and AMD is shipping its Phenom X2 parts for revenue, then the chipmaker may attract additional attention to its microprocessor line among price-conscious buyers looking for modern tech.

According to a screenshot taken on Geizhalz.at price search engine in Europe and published by Hardware-Infos web-site, AMD has started shipping AMD Phenom X2 GE-6400 (1.90GHz, 1MB of L2 cache [512KB per core], 2MB L3 cache), GE-6500 (2.10GHz, 1MB of L2 cache [512KB per core], 2MB L3 cache) and GE-6600 (2.30GHz, 1MB of L2 cache [512KB per core], 2MB L3 cache) microprocessors to channel customers.

Not all specifications are clear, for example, thermal design power of the chips is rumoured to be 45W, but indirect information points to 65W or even around 90W TDP, but it is definitely that the chips should be drop-in compatible with socket AM2+ infrastructure.

A lot of rumours have been surrounding the possible launch of the AMD Phenom X2 processors. Some indicated that dual-core K10 chips will only come out once AMD starts to produce 45nm microprocessors, some other implied that there will be no Phenom X2 chips in general. Now it looks like AMD Phenom X2 cental processing units produced using 65nm process technology are here.

AMD did not comment on the news-story.

Source

Hmm..i will still wait for 45nm version thou


[TUP] AMD New Desktop CPUs and Cuts Prices

AMD has added weight to its CPU lineup by bringing in new CPUs and cutting prices for some older ones. New CPUs aside, the price cuts by AMD are rather dramatic to say the least. To begin with, it's known that the Phenom X4 9950 has a rated TDP of 140W, and that only a chosen few motherboards support it, perhaps leading to cold market response. AMD has revised the processor with a lower rated TDP of 125W. This isn't new, AMD did the same with the 125W B3 stepping model X4 9750 months ago, releasing a revised 95W B3 part. What's more, the Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition could sport a surprising price of US $186. Perhaps it's AMD paving the way for its 45nm parts. At its new TDP and price the X4 9950 is a much better buy.

The Phenom X3 8750 would sell for $139, making it very competitive with Intel's offerings at that price-band. Additionally, AMD added new dual-core processors based on the Brisbane core, the Athlon X2 6500 Black Edition priced at $105 and an Athlon X2 5050e 45W low-power part at $90.

Changes to the prices of existing processors are as followed.

For the Phenom X4 series:

The 140W Phenom X4 9950 Black Edition gets price parity with its cooler twin, cut from $235 to $186
The Phenom X4 9850 Black Edition slips further down from $194 to $180
The Phenom X4 9750 gets much needed respite from an illogical price of $215 to $170
The Phenom X4 9650 moves from being priced at $195 to $156
For the Phenom X3 series:

Phenom X3 8750 from $175 to a new low $134
Phenom X3 8650 from $145 to $123
Some Athlon X2 parts get double-digit prices:

Athlon X2 6000+ from $112 to $95
Athlon X2 5600+ from $102 to $88
Athlon X2 5400+ from $87 to $78
Athlon X2 5200+ from $76 to $68

Source

Sorry for off topic thou..
I am so eager on the X4..as now i much more multi task
But fine..i will wait for Deneb

Nice info there mate

Phenom is become more affordable.

Phenom X2 ? Are they selling Phenom X4 with 2 spoilt core?

hahaha...45nm cun for oc wooo... hoping the price will be reasonable for miskin ppl like me

actually u don't need high speed binned ram as u'll be on b.e, get those decent dd800 & slightly oc it to 1000~1100MHz will do. u get to save some $$$ there plus satisfactions.

if $$$ not an issue i'll suggest go for red tracer... d color just suit amd/ati theme...


not totally spoilt lah bro, imo weaker cores...

Database Updated
they ignores the 2 cores then it will perform more better..

ya, i think like this too~

Aii.. if i still in AMD i may know what their next platform now~

is it the phenom x2 proc we can unlock the other 2 cores just like GC
just like intel E2xxx series that ppl said can unlock the cache

there's no way of unlockin d core, if there is we can see some unlocked tri-core ledi.

if can sure no use of selling x4 proc lol
any1 know when the 45nm amd proc will be on market aye??

let's say the X2 phenom with core matrix like this

---------
| 1 | 2 |
--------
| 3 | 4 |
---------

which combination is good for oc..
1-2 (disable 3-4)
1-3 (disable 2-4)
etc..

1-4 is better.....to running out the heat for it

then shud say oso 2-3

either one will do as long as not 1-4 or 2-3. btw, should start w/ 0-3, computer stuffs always start w/ 0...


i beg to diff bro, if 1-4 or 2-3, how can they "talk" to each other?

ya since side by side not much distance..
but temp wise donno..
if only got software to detect the core than can make comparison then..

This is AMD shanghai quad wafer look like
[attachmentid=572922]
mmmm---->memory interface
| 1 | 2 |---->core
-------- -----> L2
| 3 | 4 |---->core
llllllllllllll-----> L3 cache


1-2 close to memory but far from L3
3-4 close to L3 but far from memory

So 1-4 or 2-3 is much balance

Cannot d..AMD use native..Unless like Intel..

____IHS_______

Core 1 | Core 2

____IHS_______

AMD

_____IHS______

Core(include 1 and 2)
_____IHS______


Lucky..in server counter-part AMD finish Xeon..I wish in Desktop too..I hope the Deneb give suprises to Intel user..Guys,If the Deneb beats out Penryn completely,would u guys suprise?

AMD Readies Athlon X2 6500, No Dual-Core Phenom Chips for Now


Sources familiar with the plans of Advanced Micro Devices on Wednesday denied the fact that the company has plans to release dual-core AMD Phenom processors, but said that the chipmaker plans to release dual-core chips based on the K10 micro-architecture under the AMD Athlon X2 brand-name.

Instead of three AMD Phenom X2 chips (as reported on Tuesday), the world’s second largest maker of x86 microprocessors plans to release one AMD Athlon X2 6500 microprocessor based on the K10 micro-architecture in early September. The chip will operate at 2.30GHz, feature 1MB of L2 cache [512KB per core], 2MB L3 cache as well as dual-channel DDR2 memory controller. The new product will have thermal design power of 95W, hence, should be compatible with the vast majority of AM2+ mainboards.

The new AMD Athlon X2 6500 processor is based on code-named Kuma design and it is highly likely that the chip will be among very few of such dual-core 65nm microprocessors based on the K10 micro-architecture. In fact, the new chip will feature unlocked multiplier, a feature that allows enthusiasts to easily overclock microprocessors, and only be available on channel market.

It is not completely clear why AMD decided to brand its 2.30GHz processor as Athlon 64 X2 6500, as based on performance estimates, the Athlon X2 6400 (3.20GHz) can offer similar or even higher performance compared to AMD Phenom X3 8750 (2.40GHz). As a result, the new model 6500 may be slower compared to the old model 6400.

In addition to the AMD Athlon 64 X2 processor, Advanced Micro Devices also reportedly plans to release AMD Phenom X3 8750 (2.50GHz), 8550 (2.20GHz), 8450e (2.10GHz) and 8250e (1.90GHz) processors with three cores on the 2nd of September, 2008.

AMD did not comment on the news-story.

source : http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/2...ay_Sources.html

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Added on August 28, 2008, 11:30 am


can i submit this??

u can submit, but plz follow the rule if want to enter database

New board. M3A79-T Deluxe
http://www.asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l2=...503&modelmenu=2


# AMD 140W CPU Support
# 8+2 Phase Power Design
# 100% Japan-made Solid Capacitors! (5000hrs VRM)
# AMD OverDrive (AOD)
# Precision Tweaker 2
# ATI CrossFireX™ Technology Support
# ASUS Express Gate

AMD 790FX/SB750

5600+ x2 G2 @ 3073MHz| cwk88 | Asus M3A | Kingston | 768MHz | 5-5-5-18-24-2T | Stock






31.309 | cwk88 | 3073MHz 212x14.5| Asus M3A | 1x 2GB Kingston Value | 768MHz @ 5-5-5-18-24-2T | Stock

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Added on August 28, 2008, 12:21 pmcant push higher dy coz im using stock cooler & cap ayam psu =/
if wan push to 3.1GHz must set vcore higher than 1.35v =(

isn't that the L3 cache beside 2 n 4?
i think if exist also they should disable 3-4 coz need to disable the half L3 cache n HTT3 also..

but confirm no X2 phenom?

is high end mobo.........hv bout the bios option ?? (Asus is very very s**k bios option in amd side )

Looking for review now.

he M3A79-T DELUXE also features HyperTransport 3.0 (HT3) system bus capable of delivering up to 5200 MT/s bus speeds, quad PCIe 2.0 x16 slots, ATI Quad CrossFireX technology and the AMD OverDrive utility. It is also equipped with the innovative ASUS Precision Tweaker 2 to offer ultimate overclocking potentials; as well as the exclusive ASUS Express Gate to deliver an excellent home entertainment environment for users.

The M3A79-T DELUXE features Precision Tweaker 2 - a voltage fine-tuning tool that offers higher overclocking capabilities. This ASUS exclusive feature provides 0.02v adjustments per step for the NB Voltage, SB Voltage and the DRAM Voltage - which facilitates the highest overclocking performance while preventing system shutdown due to high voltage inputs by minimizing the gap between two voltage adjustments.

This motherboard also supports the AMD OverDrive (AOD) technology, and allows users to configure overclocking settings in Windows environments to enable greater performance tuning margins for CPUs. By integrating Precision Tweaker 2 and AOD, the M3A79-T DELUXE provides excellent overclocking capabilities for the CPU, chipsets and DRAM - making it one of the best platforms for optimized overclocking performance.

The M3A79-T DELUXE is able to support 140W powered CPUs - enabling users to take full advantage of fast CPU core frequencies to provide awesome performances for thread-intensive games and applications; as well as being backed with a solid power design for the most stable operations.

Great system performance is not only governed by special features alone - but also requires the best quality components. The M3A79-T DELUXE utilizes the absolute highest quality power components such as low RDS (on) MOSFETs for min. switching loss & lower temperatures, Ferrite core chokes with lower hysteresis loss, and most importantly, 100% high quality Japan-made conductive polymer solid capacitors (5000hrs VRM, Voltage Regulator Module). With these high quality components, users will be able to attain higher power efficiency, better stability and lower temperatures to obtain the best overclocking results and enjoy longer component lifespans.

Besides delivering exciting overclocking performances, the M3A79-T DELUXE also brings to users a completely new and exciting Internet usage experience. With the ASUS Express Gate - an ASUS exclusive built-in Operating System, it only takes 5 seconds to go online from bootup without entering Windows.

With such quick Internet access, users will be able to enjoy online videos, chatting through most popular Instant Messengers like MSN, Skype, Google Talk, QQ, and Yahoo! Messenger, check on the weather or send/receive e-mails just before leaving their homes without time constraints. What's more, the user-friendly Picture Manager offers slideshows and different modes to view and edit photos and albums according to individual user preferences. All of these powerful functions come together to make the M3A79-T DELUXE a fun and enjoyable platform on top of providing enhanced system performances

have a same Q oso.. maybe the mobo is cun, but wonder how the bios perform

imsmiko no care bout bios perform ...most importand for her is this



E-Sata and IEEE1394

well and heatpipe as well. i wonder how fast if run 4 of 4870x2 on that board.

4

that is ....

BTW why not check how much Vcore n Vdimm it able to adjust in bios??

Last time m2n-e is really , Asus seldom done well in AMD.

Hope this can

should be nice considerin their 790fx + sb600 doin quite well... i/m not worried bout d performance, more bothered bout how much will it cost but no doubt it's gonna be a great board...


bro, dun 4get biostar also migrated to ami bios, so basically they more or less d same. asus precision tweaker is really gud for fine tunin... but too bad d price not gonna suit us, thou d board itself is really gud.


asus high end board is comparable to dfi bro...


it depends more on how many MHz u can squeeze outta ya quaddy mate...

Well I am going to buy this and will tell you on that hopefully soon.

From ur siggy there got 4 item is from asus .....



there r many band which is much better in quality and performance

Planning to get 3.5ghz.
Not going fot 4x 4870x2. thats crazy.



I want to do the black and red theme. So i do see all the gpu, board are black.
Hope asus parts works well with the other asus.

buy black true + xigmatek black & orange fan...

a gud batch of 9950 w/ 3.5GHz on sb750 board should not be a problem provided there's sufficient coolin...