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adib1992
RAM:Mushkin Enhanced Basic 667MHz@729MHz
Timing:5-5-5-15-2T
vCore:Stock vCore
HTT:1215MHz

what do u mean by mul??
yamakashi
QUOTE(adib1992 @ Aug 20 2008, 10:59 AM)
RAM:Mushkin Enhanced Basic 667MHz@729MHz
Timing:5-5-5-15-2T
vCore:Stock vCore
HTT:1215MHz

what do u mean by mul??
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probably is the cpu multiplier biggrin.gif
CV6149
add more vcore....
that mushkin also not quite good....used b4...
but nothing to shout laa its a value stuff
8tvt
cpu multiplier n htt multiplier etc.. including vcore, vdimm..
if u can't figure out the OC needs how to OC then..
learn from basic n do some amd oc readings..
newbieockids
QUOTE(adib1992 @ Aug 20 2008, 04:54 AM)
cannot la... only 243*12 test occt stable... 3ghz can boot vista 64 but test occt not stable... for the bios... the earlier bios 0201 board data is m2n-vm n my bios now is 0807 mobo data m2n-vm dvi.. so cannot downgrade coz board name not match.. what should i do??
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http://vip.asus.com/forum/view.aspx?SLangu...page=1&count=13
ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socketAM2/M2N-VM_DVI/


you may try this to downgrade..
jumajuma
QUOTE(leoboom @ Aug 19 2008, 10:07 PM)
Mine.. Just some mild overclocking for a start smile.gif

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A64 x2 4800+ Brisbane | Biostar TA780G | Crucial Ballistix DDR2-800 2x2GB | 958MHz | 5-5-5-18 | AC Freezer 64 Pro
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[QUOTE]

TA780G SPOTTED!! this is heatpipe version or normal one.
have u try to find the maximum HTT for this board?? try drop the multi X6, mine can do 390htt.

plan to buy Ta780g at first but based on my experience wth tforce6100, Biostar BIOS kinda suck, a lot of HTT hole. The BIOS is not polished, but i love the tweak option and heatpipe. if yours working great i might buy another TA780G for my 2nd HTPC. icon_rolleyes.gif

edited: look like we're using the same ram, 2X2gb! Hows ur perform? mine kinda suck 500Mhz CL5 only.
8tvt
biostar always like that.. must wait sometimes..
but my mobo (intel) now.. already good for initial bios..
maybe becoz of amd structure hard to program..
jumajuma
but tforce 6100 socket939 is a legend! thts why i bought tforce6100 AM2. maybe they're concentrate on their Intel platform more.
adib1992
CPU mul:x12
HTT mul:x5
jumajuma
drop ur HTT multi, nvidia chipset cannot run above 1000 ht link. drop it to X3,
dont be fool by the other SS running above 1ghz htt, their using AMD chipset.
MENCHELSEA
QUOTE(adib1992 @ Aug 20 2008, 03:04 PM)
CPU mul:x12
HTT mul:x5
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Try lowering the htt multiplier to x4

and push the HTT blush.gif
8tvt
put 3x is better so can surpass 250htt...
with proper vcore n vdimm..
CV6149
QUOTE(jumajuma @ Aug 20 2008, 03:27 PM)
drop ur HTT multi, nvidia chipset cannot run above 1000 ht link. drop it to X3,
dont be fool by the other SS running above 1ghz htt, their using AMD chipset.
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you do know that is not true right??
about the HT link >1ghz and nvidia chipset


here is mine...

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ktek
QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:41 PM)
you do know that is not true right??
about the HT link >1ghz and nvidia chipset
here is mine...
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you already drop to 4x, right whistling.gif
CV6149
QUOTE(ktek @ Aug 20 2008, 11:41 PM)
you already drop to 4x, right whistling.gif
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err yeah to 4x hence the speed..but not 3x obviously..I dont get ur question btw....... rclxub.gif
trying to prove a point that nvidia chipset cant achieve >1g ht link...
adib1992
hurm.. i need to downgrade bios 1st to access HTT mul... how can i downgrade bios?
AMDAthlon
Hmm..i think its quite hard to downgrade?How come its disabled?
Maybe there is some unlocking buttons?Try googling.
adib1992
what do u mean by unlocking button??
casperito
DFI going to release mobo with SB750
http://www.hardwareschotte.de/hardware/pre...+DK+790FXB-M2RS
~w00t~
8tvt
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Aug 21 2008, 02:48 AM)
Hmm..i think its quite hard to downgrade?How come its disabled?
Maybe there is some unlocking buttons?Try googling.
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asus don't have such thing

QUOTE(adib1992 @ Aug 21 2008, 03:25 AM)
what do u mean by unlocking button??
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u better try beta, asus not allows bios downgrade for some their mobo.. check first..
ah_khoo
QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 21 2008, 09:25 AM)
u better try beta, asus not allows bios downgrade for some their mobo.. check first..

notso sure bout amd board, but when i was on e2140 + p5k pro, u can downgrade bios usin certain version of their flash utility. wink.gif

btw, i can see quite a no. of tri-core doin really well, latest would be d one in xs, 3.3GHz prime stable on a 8750 is simply awesome... drool.gif

user posted image

source:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=199031
jumajuma
QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 20 2008, 09:41 PM)
you do know that is not true right??
about the HT link >1ghz and nvidia chipset
here is mine...

[attachmentid=565073]
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maybe it related to certain type of nvidia chipset or board, but all my previous board based on nvidia chipset at most can do around 1150MHz only and u need to raised the NB voltage. tfoce6100 754, tforce6100 939, tforce6100 AM2, DFI lanparty Ultra D and nf4 infinity SLi.
and for asus VM series is really suck i doubt it have option to raised NB voltage.

example:
[attachmentid=565562]

8tvt
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 21 2008, 09:29 AM)
notso sure bout amd board, but when i was on e2140 + p5k pro, u can downgrade bios usin certain version of their flash utility.  wink.gif


IINM the asus commander cannot.. better try first..
but i think we can force it using old flash utility..
MENCHELSEA
QUOTE(jumajuma @ Aug 21 2008, 09:32 AM)

and for asus VM series is really suck i doubt it have option to raised NB voltage.

example:
[attachmentid=565562]
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YUP, I already used the M2A-VM before change to AX78. Cheap Asus Mobo is really suck.

blink.gif
AMDAthlon
Bro ah khoo...is the X3 using SB750 Mobo or just SB600?If SB600..quite impressive.
ah_khoo
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Aug 21 2008, 08:04 PM)
Bro ah khoo...is the X3 using SB750 Mobo or just SB600?If SB600..quite impressive.
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it's a nvidia 8200 chipset mobo... refer HERE... smile.gif
alive88
AFAIK...nvidia SLi chipset capable to do more than 1Ghz Ht link..eg. nf570,nf590...

unfortunately, they wont surpass 1.5ghz.. laugh.gif

bro ah_khoo..UGPM brows.gif
ah_khoo
QUOTE(alive88 @ Aug 21 2008, 10:25 PM)
AFAIK...nvidia SLi chipset capable to do more than 1Ghz Ht link..eg. nf570,nf590...

unfortunately, they wont surpass 1.5ghz.. laugh.gif

bro ah_khoo..UGPM brows.gif
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actually, nvidia chipset for amd is quite gud ever since nf2 era, d down side bout 'em is d very high temp... sad.gif

managed to shave off some volts w/ looser timin + higher vdimm... biggrin.gif

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fatalynx05
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 21 2008, 09:29 AM)
notso sure bout amd board, but when i was on e2140 + p5k pro, u can downgrade bios usin certain version of their flash utility.  wink.gif

btw, i can see quite a no. of tri-core doin really well, latest would be d one in xs, 3.3GHz prime stable on a 8750 is simply awesome...  drool.gif

user posted image

source:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=199031
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wow!! drool.gif i wonder how it perform! icon_idea.gif so bro when u gonna achieve that? we all waitting u to discover the secret of x3 n x4 1st then we upgrade later lol laugh.gif
ah_khoo
QUOTE(fatalynx05 @ Aug 22 2008, 07:43 AM)
wow!! drool.gif  i wonder how it perform! icon_idea.gif so bro when u gonna achieve that? we all waitting u to discover the secret of x3 n x4 1st then we upgrade later lol laugh.gif
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@ this kinda clock, for sure they can challenge those gud batch f3 we have here in sp 1m. i'll skip x3 as i don't think they worth their price. i'm currently playin w/ my lousy b3 while waitin for sb750 boards to mature... biggrin.gif
-pWs-
OMG... lousy doh.gif doh.gif laugh.gif

-pWs-
8tvt
QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 22 2008, 09:09 AM)
OMG... lousy doh.gif doh.gif laugh.gif

-pWs-
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haha... x3 not that lousy la ah_khoo..
atleast can multitask better than x2..

btw .. why high clock not include the vcore? air cooling or what?
CV6149
ok what the clock..at least 1 more core than X2 hehehe...

pws said Amd lousy of coz laa..he is using intel already woorrr hahahahhahahaha
-pWs-
QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 22 2008, 09:15 AM)
haha... x3 not that lousy la ah_khoo..
atleast can multitask better than x2..

btw .. why high clock not include the vcore? air cooling or what?
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I meant his x4. icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 22 2008, 09:17 AM)
ok what the clock..at least 1 more core than X2 hehehe...

pws said Amd lousy of coz laa..he is using intel already woorrr hahahahhahahaha
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OMG ... I love my wife drool.gif drool.gif

-pWs-
ah_khoo
QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 22 2008, 09:09 AM)
OMG... lousy doh.gif doh.gif laugh.gif

-pWs-
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true wat bro... if compared to intel... laugh.gif tongue.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 22 2008, 09:15 AM)
haha... x3 not that lousy la ah_khoo..
atleast can multitask better than x2..

btw .. why high clock not include the vcore? air cooling or what?
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that 3.3GHz prime stable toliman was on 1.41v, cooler used not those top notch one. thumbup.gif

seriously, how many program nowdays are multi-threaded. in most applications, raw processin power (high clock + high instruction per clock) still d best... smile.gif

QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 22 2008, 09:17 AM)
ok what the clock..at least 1 more core than X2 hehehe...

pws said Amd lousy of coz laa..he is using intel already woorrr hahahahhahahaha
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yeah, he was poisoned by d f@h virus... mad bout foldin... laugh.gif
CV6149
yeah..but we got games!!

alot of games is multi threaded....

and yes to pws in folding..thanx for your effort... rclxms.gif
8tvt
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 22 2008, 09:26 AM)
seriously, how many program nowdays are multi-threaded. in most applications, raw processin power (high clock + high instruction per clock) still d best...  smile.gif
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true.. that's why i switch coz 3ghz not enough for me..
if x2 can easily hit 4ghz i'll stay.. but the most can get 6400+ only.. OC price wise already bad..
afterall amd mobo chip is good..
-pWs-
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 22 2008, 09:26 AM)
true wat bro... if compared to intel...  laugh.gif  tongue.gif
yeah, he was poisoned by d f@h virus... mad bout foldin...  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 22 2008, 09:33 AM)
yeah..but we got games!!

alot of games is multi threaded....

and yes to pws in folding..thanx for your effort... rclxms.gif
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So join Folding@Home?? brows.gif brows.gif

-pWs-
ah_khoo
QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 22 2008, 09:33 AM)
yeah..but we got games!!

alot of games is multi threaded....

and yes to pws in folding..thanx for your effort... rclxms.gif
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how many games bro?? supreme commander is d only multi-threaded game i know. smile.gif

QUOTE(8tvt @ Aug 22 2008, 09:37 AM)
true.. that's why i switch coz 3ghz not enough for me..
if x2 can easily hit 4ghz i'll stay.. but the most can get 6400+ only.. OC price wise already bad..
afterall amd mobo chip is good..
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mebe i'm not so familiar w/ gamin nowdays bro, but imo, amd x2 can handle well enuf. if ur talkin bout 3dmark 06 then for sure intel have d upper hand...

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 22 2008, 09:44 AM)
So join Folding@Home??  brows.gif  brows.gif

-pWs-
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i was an expell member of team aXXXXXXXXXX b4 bro, i don't wanna ruin another foldin team... laugh.gif
xixo_12
almostthere laugh.gif
ah_khoo
QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:02 AM)
almostthere laugh.gif
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u better saddup bro... mad.gif vmad.gif tongue.gif

d problem w/ me is that i'm those hangat2 tahi ayam... other than oc, d rest can't last long... laugh.gif
8tvt
QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 22 2008, 09:56 AM)
mebe i'm not so familiar w/ gamin nowdays bro, but imo, amd x2 can handle well enuf. if ur talkin bout 3dmark 06 then for sure intel have d upper hand...
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yes ofcourse 3ghz x2 ok edy for most game..
but i like those rts with massive squadron which require more cpu power..
sure if that's the time.. we don't want a second lack of time.. tongue.gif

i already got decent gpu n ample 4gb ram..
but all this while lagging on the top of the game... the low of cpu power is the culprit..
CV6149
Company of heroes yeah!!
multi threaded......according to review...2.8g is the max cpu..
after that the factor is more to gpu than cpu..


pws..thats why i say thanks to you biggrin.gif
-pWs-
doh.gif
You are two steps in front me laugh.giflaugh.gif

AMD platform still win Intel platform in gaming right???

-pWs-
8tvt
QUOTE(CV6149 @ Aug 22 2008, 10:22 AM)
Company of heroes yeah!!
multi threaded......according to review...2.8g is the max cpu..
after that the factor is more to gpu than cpu..
pws..thats why i say thanks to you biggrin.gif
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haha.. maybe during review time the gpu not good.. so cpu not fully utilize..
now my gpu hit 100%.. coz cpu can push more.. but still ok since game capped @ 60fps.. why want more..

QUOTE(-pWs- @ Aug 22 2008, 10:40 AM)
doh.gif
You are two steps in front me laugh.giflaugh.gif

AMD platform still win Intel platform in gaming right???

-pWs-
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hardly say that nowadays bro.. since amd also lack of cache where most game needed..
by high cpu power speed.. won't taste the different much..
CV6149
exactly!..

no point to go beyond 60fps also.....
AMDAthlon
Remember.When the Deneb Begins,there will be no more Cache worries.Only different 1MB from Intel Nehalem
Deneb has Total of 8MB(2MB L2 6MB L3)
Nehalem has total of 9MB(1MB Of L2 8MB of L3)

Yeah.Even i think 40/50 FPS is already smooth.
kalakatu
guys..help me make a decision..

AMD X2 6000 vs AMD Phenom X3 8450

which yields better result in gaming and HD watching?

and 1 more question, for motherboard, ATi A780 vs nVidia NF8200, which is better?

note that im not into overclocking this time..thats why i consider X2 6000 rather than 5000 BE smile.gif
xixo_12
X3 n 780, but i think same result with 6000+, almost same
8tvt
ofcourse X3 u got extra core..
who knows with newer mobo chip u can OC it later..
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