Lowyat.NET > AMD® Socket-AM2&AM2+ Overclocking Thread V9

imsmiko

Aug 14 2008, 10:35 PM

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Aug 14 2008, 07:55 PM)

wow, i like u

yeah i reviewed your offer, will let you know

@someone else
I do understand the architecture behind amd, and its tougher compared to intels FSB to overclock. The main reason i am learning this is to prepare myself for nehalem which follows QPI = modded Hypertransport. Just a transition to a new phase thats all

dont like too much. later regret.

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 14 2008, 08:23 PM)

bro, let's admit it. amd never gonna overtake intel even if u compare a deneb to yorkfield. deneb could go near or slightly better than yorkfield (i really doubt this) on same clock speed, but when u start crankin up d fsb, deneb will still find it hard to catch up w/ yorkfield in term of MHz. from d review, deneb needed an unhealthy amount of voltage to reach 4.0GHz which definitely not meant for 24/7, while in yorkfield u can simply increase a lot of clock w/o d need of insane voltage.

as for d price cut, i dun think imsmiko can wait til it's effective. imo it'll take months for that. waitin game is not so pleasant for those who can't wait...

actually am2/am2+ oc are not as hard as u think if u have experience w/ s939. they're just upgraded architectures of d great old k8.

yes i dont think i can wait anymore. someone need to beat mr khoo.

@serez. we are in f3 and phenom fever mow. budget dual core with be f3 and quad core will be phenom b3 especially be.

yamakashi

Aug 14 2008, 10:37 PM

Hey guys, I manage to increase the bus speed to 250 after i bump up the HT and NB multi. When I test this settings with Prime95 for 5 mins it is ok but once I increase the bus speed to 252 while running Prime95, the PC hang or just restart itself. So I try to increase the core voltage and RAM voltage but it is the same. Any suggestions?

cyloh

Aug 14 2008, 10:57 PM

QUOTE

yup, it's simple. if they can't win over intel in term of performance, then they gotta beat intel in term of price while offerin "not so lousy" performance.

i'm impatiently waitin for ya amd comeback bro.

Will b back soon. How soon depends on how late deneb comes

QUOTE(yamakashi @ Aug 14 2008, 10:37 PM)

Hey guys, I manage to increase the bus speed to 250 after i bump up the HT and NB multi. When I test this settings with Prime95 for 5 mins it is ok but once I increase the bus speed to 252 while running Prime95, the PC hang or just restart itself. So I try to increase the core voltage and RAM voltage but it is the same. Any suggestions?

Try to add NB/SB volts too.... may help.
Take ur time any try things around. I think ur bios has alot(too much?) options to tweak.

ah_khoo

Aug 14 2008, 10:58 PM

QUOTE(imsmiko @ Aug 14 2008, 10:35 PM)

dont like too much. later regret.

yes i dont think i can wait anymore. someone need to beat mr khoo.

@serez. we are in f3 and phenom fever mow. budget dual core with be f3 and quad core will be phenom b3 especially be.

my result is nothing when 9850 b.e come into d picture... it's almost a guarantee that b.e can do atleast 2.9GHz w/ no sweat...

i'll be hepi enuf if there's someone who can share d thoughts of phenoms oc w/ me, results/records are meant to be broken mate...

QUOTE(yamakashi @ Aug 14 2008, 10:37 PM)

Hey guys, I manage to increase the bus speed to 250 after i bump up the HT and NB multi. When I test this settings with Prime95 for 5 mins it is ok but once I increase the bus speed to 252 while running Prime95, the PC hang or just restart itself. So I try to increase the core voltage and RAM voltage but it is the same. Any suggestions?

pls show ya cpu-z tab of cpu & ram settings. if possible post d value of each voltage as well...

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 14 2008, 10:57 PM)

Will b back soon. How soon depends on how late deneb comes

Try to add NB/SB volts too.... may help.
Take ur time any try things around. I think ur bios has alot(too much?) options to tweak.

a lot of things to tweak is never a bad thing bro... rather than not much to tweak...

lloyd1030

Aug 14 2008, 11:11 PM

want to ask sifu,ht link higher better or lower better ?

yamakashi

Aug 14 2008, 11:11 PM

Here is the stable settings b4 I hit 252.

AMDAthlon

Aug 14 2008, 11:34 PM

AMD Phenom user huh

You might need to increase the voltage.Can you list out your comp spec?

bro ah khoo so confirms that Deneb cant beat out Yorkfield..Only times decides it

ah_khoo

Aug 14 2008, 11:50 PM

QUOTE(lloyd1030 @ Aug 14 2008, 11:11 PM)

want to ask sifu,ht link higher better or lower better ?

higher did give some performance booest but in return it mite result in instability. i always keep it @ recommended speed which is around 1000 (for am2).

QUOTE(yamakashi @ Aug 14 2008, 11:11 PM)

Here is the stable settings b4 I hit 252.

can't see d ss mate...

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Aug 14 2008, 11:34 PM)

AMD Phenom user huh

You might need to increase the voltage.Can you list out your comp spec?

bro ah khoo so confirms that Deneb cant beat out Yorkfield..Only times decides it

i'm just tryin not to be so optimistic. d higher d hope d bigger d disappointment will be.

for sure deneb can't match yorkies in term of MHz, so it gonna take a very gud architecture (better performance per cycle) if deneb are to beat its counterpart.

hengmy

Aug 14 2008, 11:59 PM

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Aug 14 2008, 11:34 PM)

AMD Phenom user huh

You might need to increase the voltage.Can you list out your comp spec?

bro ah khoo so confirms that Deneb cant beat out Yorkfield..Only times decides it

even can beat clock to clock, a little bit, but intel for sure can clock much more higher than amd with lower voltage, at the end amd still loss

yamakashi

Aug 15 2008, 12:03 AM

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 14 2008, 11:50 PM)

can't see d ss mate...

Are you sure? Coz my PC can see. Use THIS link.

@AMDAthlon

My PC spec is AMD Phenom 8450 under Sunbeamtech Core-Contact Freezer, DFI LP DK 790FX, 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz, Gigabyte Odin Pro 800W, 2xATI 3850 CF mode.

imsmiko

Aug 15 2008, 12:32 AM

QUOTE(hengmy @ Aug 14 2008, 11:59 PM)

even can beat clock to clock, a little bit, but intel for sure can clock much more higher than amd with lower voltage, at the end amd still loss

unlocked multiplier by amd still make oc easy. thats amd plus point.
amd motherboard and combo are still cheaper than intel. quad crossfire and cf at cheap price.
intel are still quite steep dont you think?

hengmy

Aug 15 2008, 01:28 AM

QUOTE(imsmiko @ Aug 15 2008, 12:32 AM)

unlocked multiplier by amd still make oc easy. thats amd plus point.
amd motherboard and combo are still cheaper than intel. quad crossfire and cf at cheap price.
intel are still quite steep dont you think?

hmm, the current situition are:
amd come out with cheap dualcore, ppl will think intel is expensive coz they r comparing with C2D, not pentium dualcore
amd come out with BE, to cover their weakness on hard tweak on normal htt overclocking
intel selling C2D with 2x, 3x,4x of x2 price, because no ppl can beat their C2D
intel board are expensive, because manufacturer focus on highend board for intel, not amd
amd combo look cheaper, but in fact, they both are around the same range, with similar performance

Today, AMD are focusing on marketing to survive, this is only thing they can do for now.
Intel is using AMD weak processor performance now, to gain more $$.

this is what i could see, for now

digswell

Aug 15 2008, 02:15 AM

QUOTE(hengmy @ Aug 15 2008, 01:28 AM)

hmm, the current situition are:
amd come out with cheap dualcore, ppl will think intel is expensive coz they r comparing with C2D, not pentium dualcore
amd come out with BE, to cover their weakness on hard tweak on normal htt overclocking
intel selling C2D with 2x, 3x,4x of x2 price, because no ppl can beat their C2D
intel board are expensive, because manufacturer focus on highend board for intel, not amd
amd combo look cheaper, but in fact, they both are around the same range, with similar performance

Today, AMD are focusing on marketing to survive, this is only thing they can do for now.
Intel is using AMD weak processor performance now, to gain more $$.

this is what i could see, for now

i do agreed wit it......i no think AMD is weak processor.
All the thing is depend on how much money poket u hv ...budget ..budget

with RM2K rig u think AMD is better or intel ??

a1098113

Aug 15 2008, 02:16 AM

amd knocked the door to failure, with the phenoms to be honest. They had superb control on the dualcore market. I think even a DUal Core e2140 like mine, would be able to upstage an AMD easily.

For comparison, can someone here give a beating to a 20m 01s on 3.2Ghz of E2140? This is done on a 1:1 divider. Architecture is just far more superior thats all

Added on August 15, 2008, 2:17 am

QUOTE(digswell @ Aug 15 2008, 02:15 AM)

i do agreed wit it......i no think AMD is weak processor.
All the thing is depend on how much money poket u hv ...budget ..budget

with RM2K rig u think AMD is better or intel ??

i would say an e2140 would give a good run

with rm2000

digswell

Aug 15 2008, 02:40 AM

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Aug 15 2008, 02:16 AM)

amd knocked the door to failure, with the phenoms to be honest. They had superb control on the dualcore market. I think even a DUal Core e2140 like mine, would be able to upstage an AMD easily.

For comparison, can someone here give a beating to a 20m 01s on 3.2Ghz of E2140? This is done on a 1:1 divider. Architecture is just far more superior thats all

Added on August 15, 2008, 2:17 am

i would say an e2140 would give a good run

with rm2000

no with 32 bit bandmark software ..yes i do agreed intel is much better the amd in SPI.....HOW long time hv to take if u converting photo image raw files from canon camera to image jpeg files or PSD files very big resolution ??

the photo JPEG files properties is like this
[attachmentid=559142]

cyloh

Aug 15 2008, 07:55 AM

QUOTE(yamakashi @ Aug 15 2008, 12:03 AM)

Are you sure? Coz my PC can see. Use THIS link.

@AMDAthlon

My PC spec is AMD Phenom 8450 under Sunbeamtech Core-Contact Freezer, DFI LP DK 790FX, 2x2GB Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR2 PC2-6400 800MHz, Gigabyte Odin Pro 800W, 2xATI 3850 CF mode.

Do bump up ur HT link and NB 1 more level. So u can do some maths... plus the oc' keep your HTlink and NB around 1800 range. Not sure about 790FX.. but i think ur board also would handle HT/NB at 2000mhz no issue.

edit: saw ur screenshot again. ur rams are running 1000mhz. whats the volts u giving them? any sifu here
know if his rams can run that high? For now maybe u should change ram divider to lower the speed.

yamakashi

Aug 15 2008, 08:23 AM

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 15 2008, 07:55 AM)

Do bump up ur HT link and NB 1 more level. So u can do some maths... plus the oc' keep your HTlink and NB around 1800 range. Not sure about 790FX.. but i think ur board also would handle HT/NB at 2000mhz no issue.

edit: saw ur screenshot again. ur rams are running 1000mhz. whats the volts u giving them? any sifu here
know if his rams can run that high? For now maybe u should change ram divider to lower the speed.

The RAM now running at 2.1v. Tried 2.2v but still hang when stressing. Will try to bump the HT and NB 1 more level and change RAM divider. Thanks cyloh

AMDAthlon

Aug 15 2008, 08:34 AM

Nice rig you have there yamakashi.
Only times decides it.Even if AMD cannot beat it via Mhz,let it beat via architechture.Like before Athlon XP 1.4 Beat 1.8?
Well..i said again,only times decides it.

cyloh

Aug 15 2008, 09:06 AM

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Aug 15 2008, 08:34 AM)

Nice rig you have there yamakashi.
Only times decides it.Even if AMD cannot beat it via Mhz,let it beat via architechture.Like before Athlon XP 1.4 Beat 1.8?
Well..i said again,only times decides it.

Who beat who and by how.. Intel and AMD still win. Cause our money goes into their pockets.
Not trying to start fire here, but my ol' darkside proc at stock still win(or on par) with an overclocked
deneb ES superpi 1m.

I just want deneb to be ok-ok and once selling is rm8xx or below. That will be good enough for me to
jump back.

ah_khoo

Aug 15 2008, 09:25 AM

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Aug 15 2008, 02:16 AM)

amd knocked the door to failure, with the phenoms to be honest. They had superb control on the dualcore market. I think even a DUal Core e2140 like mine, would be able to upstage an AMD easily.

For comparison, can someone here give a beating to a 20m 01s on 3.2Ghz of E2140? This is done on a 1:1 divider. Architecture is just far more superior thats all

Added on August 15, 2008, 2:17 am

i would say an e2140 would give a good run

with rm2000

u can't compare d capability of a chip just on d aspect of sp. sp itself doesn't totally reflect how gud a chip is. no doubt intel's e2xxx series is d best bang for bucks chips, but for those who are into other kinda figure fever like 3dmarks (where no. of core gives better scores), e2xxx series are no longer live up to d expectation.

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 15 2008, 09:06 AM)

Who beat who and by how.. Intel and AMD still win. Cause our money goes into their pockets.
Not trying to start fire here, but my ol' darkside proc at stock still win(or on par) with an overclocked
deneb ES superpi 1m.

I just want deneb to be ok-ok and once selling is rm8xx or below. That will be good enough for me to
jump back.

totally agree w u bro. it's pointless to argue who'll be better than who in d future as what important is d present, & that belongs to intel. period.

a1098113

Aug 15 2008, 09:46 AM

e21 can live up with flying rams and good graphics card.. common guys we all know why amd gives better startups of programs. Thats due to the internal memory controller that AMD employs, which doesnt require latencies to occur due to the data being transfered to the North Bridge then to the ram. This reduces time for things like conversion or perhaps gaming. Simple. But when it comes to softwares which require heavy bandwidth of data transfer, intel definitely has an upper hand.

Oh well, if you guys did have the time check this 3dmark2006 comparison. Top in line, phenom x4 9850 on 3.3ghz and single card 3870

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=736282

and the good old "crappy" e2140 on 2.4Ghz and single card 3870

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=749657

Now to compare on lets say SisoftSandra which is from my noob info, a memory benchmark

An e2140 on high clocks.

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=656772

An Amd 9850 x4 on high clocks

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=730133

On this benchmark, phenom does have a high big edge over the DualCore due to its architecture, but remember, this is on quad core

Added on August 15, 2008, 9:48 amAnyways, no hard feelings here, but im just learning about how AMD performs on benchmarks.

ah_khoo

Aug 15 2008, 10:08 AM

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Aug 15 2008, 09:46 AM)

e21 can live up with flying rams and good graphics card.. common guys we all know why amd gives better startups of programs. Thats due to the internal memory controller that AMD employs, which doesnt require latencies to occur due to the data being transfered to the North Bridge then to the ram. This reduces time for things like conversion or perhaps gaming. Simple. But when it comes to softwares which require heavy bandwidth of data transfer, intel definitely has an upper hand.

Oh well, if you guys did have the time check this 3dmark2006 comparison. Top in line, phenom x4 9850 on 3.3ghz and single card 3870

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=736282

and the good old "crappy" e2140 on 2.4Ghz and single card 3870

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=749657

Now to compare on lets say SisoftSandra which is from my noob info, a memory benchmark

An e2140 on high clocks.

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=656772

An Amd 9850 x4 on high clocks

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=730133

On this benchmark, phenom does have a high big edge over the DualCore due to its architecture, but remember, this is on quad core

Added on August 15, 2008, 9:48 amAnyways, no hard feelings here, but im just learning about how AMD performs on benchmarks.

well, i'm not pro enuf in doing detailed comparisons, but logically in 3dmark06, a litely clocked toliman will score better than superclocked e2xxx due to 1 extra core (i'm comparin cpu score here).

in fairness, each intel & amd have their own pros & cons, just that at this moment intel is d clear winner. but still, not everyone buyin "intel is d best (be it performance wise or price), so we must buy it" thingy, else, there won't be any healthy competition in cpu market, & obviously there won't be such thread.

i think we should stop this off opic discussion at once, pls respect d thread.

a1098113

Aug 15 2008, 10:15 AM

cheers, no offence to the thread

just some info thats all. Now back to my noobness to AMD

cyloh

Aug 15 2008, 10:43 AM

bro ah_khoo.... 3ghz benchies coming soon?

biostar 790gx

.... can make u bomb ur 9550 to new heights.

waiting is so hard. news on the streets is... deneb is still on track for a Q4 release.
wuuu so near yet so far

lloyd1030

Aug 15 2008, 10:43 AM

what is the highest vcore that is safe for 24/7 operating ?
this is the result i get that is prime stable...
[attachmentid=559289]

imsmiko

Aug 15 2008, 10:45 AM

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Aug 15 2008, 09:46 AM)

e21 can live up with flying rams and good graphics card.. common guys we all know why amd gives better startups of programs. Thats due to the internal memory controller that AMD employs, which doesnt require latencies to occur due to the data being transfered to the North Bridge then to the ram. This reduces time for things like conversion or perhaps gaming. Simple. But when it comes to softwares which require heavy bandwidth of data transfer, intel definitely has an upper hand.

Oh well, if you guys did have the time check this 3dmark2006 comparison. Top in line, phenom x4 9850 on 3.3ghz and single card 3870

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=736282

and the good old "crappy" e2140 on 2.4Ghz and single card 3870

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=749657

Now to compare on lets say SisoftSandra which is from my noob info, a memory benchmark

An e2140 on high clocks.

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=656772

An Amd 9850 x4 on high clocks

http://www.hwbot.org/compare.do?resultId=730133

On this benchmark, phenom does have a high big edge over the DualCore due to its architecture, but remember, this is on quad core

Added on August 15, 2008, 9:48 amAnyways, no hard feelings here, but im just learning about how AMD performs on benchmarks.

come to amd thread talking intel?

i did some of my personal comparison.

e2180 + i45 + = rm695 . oc>3.5ghz with 1.55v.
f3 4600+ ta790x = rm485. oc > 3.4ghz with 1.4v.
5000be + ta790x = rm550. oc. 3.2ghz with stock.

q6600 + i790x = rm1100 . oc > 3.5ghz with 1.55v?
phenom 9950be + 790x = rm 1060. oc 3.5ghz with 1.5v.

reason i taken i45 instead of ta790x because of comparing around same specification. ep35 is only using pcie 1.0.
both 790x and i45 has crossfire 16x/8x.

cyloh

Aug 15 2008, 10:50 AM

QUOTE(imsmiko @ Aug 15 2008, 10:45 AM)

come to amd thread talking intel?

i did some of my personal comparison.

e2180 + i45 + = rm695 . oc>3.5ghz with 1.55v.
f3 4600+ ta790x = rm485. oc > 3.4ghz with 1.4v.
5000be + ta790x = rm550. oc. 3.2ghz with stock.

q6600 + i790x = rm1100 . oc > 3.5ghz with 1.55v?
phenom 9950be + 790x = rm 1060. oc 3.5ghz with 1.5v.

reason i taken i45 instead of ta790x because of comparing around same specification. ep35 is only using pcie 1.0.
both 790x and i45 has crossfire 16x/8x.

Owh no... sister imsmiko is furious now.

q6600 + i790x? i am confused abit.
psst..... 790gx cheaper o.... if buy biostar low end 790gx

ah_khoo

Aug 15 2008, 10:57 AM

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 15 2008, 10:43 AM)

bro ah_khoo.... 3ghz benchies coming soon?

biostar 790gx

.... can make u bomb ur 9550 to new heights.

waiting is so hard. news on the streets is... deneb is still on track for a Q4 release.
wuuu so near yet so far

nope bro, i'm sick lately (sore throat + blocked nose

), not much time to play w/ d quaddy but i can guarantee u 3.0GHz is not possible on ax78. u gotta wait for 790gx board for that.

QUOTE(lloyd1030 @ Aug 15 2008, 10:43 AM)

what is the highest vcore that is safe for 24/7 operating ?
this is the result i get that is prime stable...
[attachmentid=559289]

1.4v still consider healthy enuf for 24/7, but i never really run my chip @ vcore > 1.35v on daily basis.

backyardbangerz

Aug 15 2008, 11:01 AM

hi there i'm new to overclockin and i jz got my new pc... i looking forward to overclocking it... and i heard here is the best place to learn...

here is my spec...

processor - AMD Phenom X4 9850 2.5Ghz Black Edition
motherboard - MSI K9A2 Platinum 790fx
graphic card - MSI 4870
ram - 4gb KHX 1066

plz teach me overclock those stuff... i using a termaltake liquid cooling for my cpu! and 650 real power coolermaster power supply... i try on my own but i didnt know how to use the ClockGen software and all...

AMDAthlon

Aug 15 2008, 11:03 AM

Hmm..u got nice rig there.Just the mobo,how i wish u using 790GX Motherboard.
Anyway,have u learn about Basic of Overclocking for AMD?

imsmiko

Aug 15 2008, 11:04 AM

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 15 2008, 10:50 AM)

Owh no... sister imsmiko is furious now.

q6600 + i790x? i am confused abit.
psst..... 790gx cheaper o.... if buy biostar low end 790gx

typo its i45.

backyardbangerz

Aug 15 2008, 11:06 AM

no i'm a zero in overclocking...

AMDAthlon

Aug 15 2008, 11:08 AM

If thats so,learn the most basic overclocking for AMD.

Basic guide - Overclocking a 939/AM2: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/625156

These guides credit to our very own forummer: kmarc

cyloh

Aug 15 2008, 11:08 AM

QUOTE(backyardbangerz @ Aug 15 2008, 11:06 AM)

no i'm a zero in overclocking...

go into your bios. and then slowly bump the CPU multiplier up one step at a time.

alternatively, download AMD overdrive and do it via windows.

lloyd1030

Aug 15 2008, 11:15 AM

QUOTE(backyardbangerz @ Aug 15 2008, 11:06 AM)

no i'm a zero in overclocking...

get familiar with your bios and overclock from there,clockgen is not stable enough as i have been told by other sifu here not to use it.

backyardbangerz

Aug 15 2008, 11:30 AM

there this something called Vcore.. do i need to change it or something when i overclock??

AMDAthlon

Aug 15 2008, 11:33 AM

Yes,it is used to stable the processor.Please and i begging you to learn the basic first.

Basic guide - Overclocking a 939/AM2: http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/625156

These guides credit to our very own forummer: kmarc

backyardbangerz

Aug 15 2008, 11:37 AM

k k, sorry....

xixo_12

Aug 15 2008, 12:11 PM

useful link at post #3, for newcomer it will help a lot.. try to read n learn slowly, other confusion , u can refer here coz there is a lot mr. nice guy here..

ah_khoo pass to u..

momuchi

Aug 15 2008, 01:49 PM

QUOTE(imsmiko @ Aug 15 2008, 10:45 AM)

come to amd thread talking intel?

i did some of my personal comparison.

e2180 + i45 + = rm695 . oc>3.5ghz with 1.55v.
f3 4600+ ta790x = rm485. oc > 3.4ghz with 1.4v.
5000be + ta790x = rm550. oc. 3.2ghz with stock.

q6600 + i790x = rm1100 . oc > 3.5ghz with 1.55v?
phenom 9950be + 790x = rm 1060. oc 3.5ghz with 1.5v.

reason i taken i45 instead of ta790x because of comparing around same specification. ep35 is only using pcie 1.0.
both 790x and i45 has crossfire 16x/8x.

IT`S TA790GX have arrive at malaysia?

how u know that price?

imsmiko

Aug 15 2008, 02:22 PM

QUOTE(momuchi @ Aug 15 2008, 01:49 PM)

IT`S TA790GX have arrive at malaysia?

how u know that price?

that chipset is 790x. means msi k9a2 cf board retailing at 305.

ah_khoo

Aug 15 2008, 02:41 PM

QUOTE(backyardbangerz @ Aug 15 2008, 11:01 AM)

hi there i'm new to overclockin and i jz got my new pc... i looking forward to overclocking it... and i heard here is the best place to learn...

here is my spec...

processor - AMD Phenom X4 9850 2.5Ghz Black Edition
motherboard - MSI K9A2 Platinum 790fx
graphic card - MSI 4870
ram - 4gb KHX 1066
plz teach me overclock those stuff... i using a termaltake liquid cooling for my cpu! and 650 real power coolermaster power supply... i try on my own but i didnt know how to use the ClockGen software and all...

for starter, bios oc is d best. d more u play w/ ya bios, d more u'll learn. i won't recommend clockgen/amd overdrive as they're more for enhancement(tweakin)/extreme purposes.

there's no one usin d board w/ phenom here, so ya only choice is to have some readin in xtremesystems, they got a dedicated thread there just for d board. i'm not so sure bout how well khx1066 is doin, but in khx ddr800, they're not meant for high frequency.

dun worry much bout d overclockability of ya board even it's on sb600, it's proven that it can clock phenoms pretty well, but ofcoz, d soon to be released sb750 boards mite brin ya mileage further due to d improved sb.

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 15 2008, 11:08 AM)

go into your bios. and then slowly bump the CPU multiplier up one step at a time.

alternatively, download AMD overdrive and do it via windows.

aod is still not so stable & picky atm bro, i wouldn't recommend that to starter, thou i'm one oso...

QUOTE(backyardbangerz @ Aug 15 2008, 11:30 AM)

there this something called Vcore.. do i need to change it or something when i overclock??

increase it gradually, no one here hold d responsibility if happened u burn anything in d attempts of oc'in ya rig...

QUOTE(xixo_12 @ Aug 15 2008, 12:11 PM)

useful link at post #3, for newcomer it will help a lot.. try to read n learn slowly, other confusion , u can refer here coz there is a lot mr. nice guy here..

ah_khoo pass to u..

for sure i'm not one of 'em bro... i'm mr user posted image

...

QUOTE(imsmiko @ Aug 15 2008, 02:22 PM)

that chipset is 790x. means msi k9a2 cf board retailing at 305.

d giga 790gx ds4 will be available on month end over here...

cyloh

Aug 15 2008, 03:16 PM

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 15 2008, 02:41 PM)

for starter, bios oc is d best. d more u play w/ ya bios, d more u'll learn. i won't recommend clockgen/amd overdrive as they're more for enhancement(tweakin)/extreme purposes.

there's no one usin d board w/ phenom here, so ya only choice is to have some readin in xtremesystems, they got a dedicated thread there just for d board. i'm not so sure bout how well khx1066 is doin, but in khx ddr800, they're not meant for high frequency.

dun worry much bout d overclockability of ya board even it's on sb600, it's proven that it can clock phenoms pretty well, but ofcoz, d soon to be released sb750 boards mite brin ya mileage further due to d improved sb.

aod is still not so stable & picky atm bro, i wouldn't recommend that to starter, thou i'm one oso...
increase it gradually, no one here hold d responsibility if happened u burn anything in d attempts of oc'in ya rig...

for sure i'm not one of 'em bro... i'm mr user posted image

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d giga 790gx ds4 will be available on month end over here...

Heheh... sure or not u're a beginner?

Owh i forgot to ask since sometimes this thread can go in confusing circles.

Ur phenom + mobo... is it possible to stable 24/7 at 2.8ghz?

ah_khoo

Aug 15 2008, 03:38 PM

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 15 2008, 03:16 PM)

Heheh... sure or not u're a beginner?

Owh i forgot to ask since sometimes this thread can go in confusing circles.

Ur phenom + mobo... is it possible to stable 24/7 at 2.8ghz?

yup bro, but not w/ stock voltages for sure. vcore < 1.35v for prime stable @ 2.8GHz, d rest like v nb & v core-nb need few notches up...

imsmiko

Aug 15 2008, 03:40 PM

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 15 2008, 03:38 PM)

yup bro, but not w/ stock voltages for sure. vcore < 1.35v for prime stable @ 2.8GHz, d rest like v nb & v core-nb need few notches up...

very very jealous.

ah_khoo

Aug 15 2008, 03:52 PM

QUOTE(imsmiko @ Aug 15 2008, 03:40 PM)

very very jealous.

i'll be sayin this when ya 9850b.e is in da house mate...

month end is still two weeks away, but i doubt i can afford d giga, biostar a2 would be a more realistic target...

d pwm temp is a pain in d a$$ when it involves phenoms oc...

cyloh

Aug 15 2008, 03:55 PM

2.8ghz stable 24/7 not bad

Alot of people have prob even getting near to your oc.

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d pwm temp is a b!tch when it involves phenoms oc...

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a1098113

Aug 15 2008, 04:04 PM

QUOTE(imsmiko @ Aug 15 2008, 10:45 AM)

come to amd thread talking intel?

i did some of my personal comparison.

e2180 + i45 + = rm695 . oc>3.5ghz with 1.55v.
f3 4600+ ta790x = rm485. oc > 3.4ghz with 1.4v.
5000be + ta790x = rm550. oc. 3.2ghz with stock.

q6600 + i790x = rm1100 . oc > 3.5ghz with 1.55v?
phenom 9950be + 790x = rm 1060. oc 3.5ghz with 1.5v.

reason i taken i45 instead of ta790x because of comparing around same specification. ep35 is only using pcie 1.0.
both 790x and i45 has crossfire 16x/8x.

ish ish... already stopped talking about intel... wanna start it again. If performance is good, money is no big deal sista.. okok, u win

you got my comparison all wrong anyways.

Added on August 15, 2008, 4:07 pm

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 15 2008, 10:50 AM)

Owh no... sister imsmiko is furious now.

q6600 + i790x? i am confused abit.
psst..... 790gx cheaper o.... if buy biostar low end 790gx

if imsmiko is a sister, then i am an uncle here wor... lolz...

anyways got a question to ask, how does your divider principle work in AMD?

imsmiko

Aug 15 2008, 04:10 PM

QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Aug 15 2008, 03:52 PM)

i'll be sayin this when ya 9850b.e is in da house mate...

month end is still two weeks away, but i doubt i can afford d giga, biostar a2 would be a more realistic target...

d pwm temp is a b!tch when it involves phenoms oc...

you can afford giga. share share with your gf la.

since biostar dosentr have proper cooling. giga is the best choice.

ehem. dont you use that world when a girl is at present.

QUOTE(a1098113 @ Aug 15 2008, 04:04 PM)

ish ish... already stopped talking about intel... wanna start it again. If performance is good, money is no big deal sista.. okok, u win

you got my comparison all wrong anyways.

haha. money always matter. unless you have canon ip8888 money printer at home.
200 difference is a lot especially for a gurl like me. Can buy many things wor. Clinique skin set 220.

ah_khoo

Aug 15 2008, 04:12 PM

QUOTE(cyloh @ Aug 15 2008, 03:55 PM)

2.8ghz stable 24/7 not bad

Alot of people have prob even getting near to your oc.
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well, it was just estimation only bro, but i think w that kinda voltage should NOT be a problem, d only problem is d pwm temp, that's what stoppin me to try prime @ > 2.7GHz. cpu temp still at accecptable range (48~52'C for 1.27v), but d pwm temp is really a concern, it can go as high as ~72'C onload which i find it way tooo high to my likin...

that's why i gotta make sure d sb750 board i'll buy won't have this kinda issue.

QUOTE(imsmiko @ Aug 15 2008, 04:10 PM)

you can afford giga. share share with your gf la.

since biostar dosentr have proper cooling. giga is the best choice.

ehem. dont you use that world when a girl is at present.

haha. money always matter. unless you have canon ip8888 money printer at home.
200 difference is a lot especially for a gurl like me. Can buy many things wor. Clinique skin set 220.

i reckon giga will cost around ~$200 while biostar a2 at $150 ish... $50 for me is kinda big ledi...

my bad mate... apologized for that...