cheong86
Jul 10 2008, 10:49 PM
rexoxo
Jul 10 2008, 10:59 PM
why u scared ur bro hack ur pc??
got porn??
maybe u can use google and search..
ah_heng
Jul 10 2008, 11:03 PM
eh.. not so easy to hack wan worr... unless he has a key logger

check that out man...
AzkA
Jul 10 2008, 11:12 PM
Set the administrator password
cheong86
Jul 10 2008, 11:33 PM
I set liao ... i duno how he bypass it ... It's windows password ... not the BIOS startup password ...
LaiN87
Jul 10 2008, 11:36 PM
It's so easy to hack even if it's BIOS or windows password..
Windows password can be bypassed using a linux to change the password =) Or if you didn't set administrator password then it can be login easily. Although it's not displayed in the user list. (Usually can see in safe mode)
Go find a software that locks your pc. Then make that software start everytime? =/ Not good enough also.. You still need a 3rd party software somehow.
606088
Jul 10 2008, 11:38 PM
congrats. u got a clever bro.
eXPeri3nc3
Jul 10 2008, 11:45 PM
Disable boot on USB / boot on CD.
Put password for administrator.
Done.
The above works well if your bro don't know what you did.
cheong86
Jul 10 2008, 11:58 PM
any recommendations for 3rd part software ? These days i go original IT products ...
orenzai
Jul 11 2008, 12:12 AM
maybe try the USB pw thingy? like plug in yr thumbdrive to unlock the computer?
Edison83
Jul 11 2008, 12:55 AM
i think u put some thing easy to rmb, eg: IC number, phone number or such
put something like vi84cd79
100% cant crack de
seiji_kun
Jul 11 2008, 01:44 AM
really easy to crack ka..use software or what??..
hkpoh
Jul 11 2008, 10:15 AM
go into ur bios,
1) in the boot sequence, select HDD as ur 1st boot up
2) set a bios password for changing ur bios setting (not password for bios boot up).
go into ur windows
1) change ur admin user name to other name and change the password
2) create a new user as normal user with the previous admin user name and password
so whenever he login to the previous admin name, it will be act as normal user, or mayb u wan to set it as guest, its up to u
CelciuzX
Jul 12 2008, 09:47 AM
There is a certain software to hack Windows Administrator Password, You just insert it to your USB, & boot from it.
You have one smart bro

How old is he?
tachlio
Jul 12 2008, 10:08 AM
Ya disable he boot from usb can prevent he to use USB to hack the window password
ubsacc2004
Jul 12 2008, 12:00 PM
QUOTE(cheong86 @ Jul 10 2008, 11:33 PM)
I set liao ... i duno how he bypass it ... It's windows password ... not the BIOS startup password ...
ai ya just use linux boot up cd oledi can bypass administrator password or even admin rite.
then u ned winzip your files with paassword or install folder guard software to protect your sensitive files.
Added on July 12, 2008, 12:01 pmQUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Jul 10 2008, 11:45 PM)
Disable boot on USB / boot on CD.
Put password for administrator.
Done.
The above works well if your bro don't know what you did.
yes another solution to too. is your dvd-rom can be unplugged 1 ?
cheong86
Jul 12 2008, 02:53 PM
Haha ... problem solved. Everyday change password .. tedious but it's working. hehe ... my bro is 18 this year. Me older abit.
Deyndra
Jul 12 2008, 03:32 PM
Why cannot share computer with him ??
xphr3ak
Jul 12 2008, 03:38 PM
Just set bios password.
He cannot boot from the drive then
LEVIATHAN
Jul 12 2008, 03:43 PM
BIOS password? Gah! Open the casing and reset BIOS, puh the password gone. XP password? Use Ophcrack, in less than 10 minute the password is in hand already.
Create a hard, cryptic password, more than 14 characters, add spaces and symbols. Change it every week.
Deyndra
Jul 12 2008, 04:01 PM
Open The Hardisk ,
Bring it to anywhere.
Or open the ram ,
Bring it anywhere.
Because all the password is crackable ...
Just the time it take..
xphr3ak
Jul 12 2008, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jul 12 2008, 03:43 PM)
BIOS password? Gah! Open the casing and reset BIOS, puh the password gone. XP password? Use Ophcrack, in less than 10 minute the password is in hand already.
Create a hard, cryptic password, more than 14 characters, add spaces and symbols. Change it every week. Yeah.. Indeed.
I think better set long2 password+symbols etc.
If i'm not mistaken lopthcrack cannot crack long2 password.
Correct if i'm wrong because i tried it myself on my pc.
mckevin
Jul 12 2008, 04:07 PM
windows xp password are useless.. use 3rd party software .. remove the whole password also can
xphr3ak
Jul 12 2008, 04:20 PM
QUOTE(mckevin @ Jul 12 2008, 04:07 PM)
windows xp password are useless.. use 3rd party software .. remove the whole password also can
What do you mean and how?
mckevin
Jul 12 2008, 04:36 PM
Here But u need to search for the ahem version..
eXPeri3nc3
Jul 12 2008, 06:24 PM
QUOTE(LEVIATHAN @ Jul 12 2008, 03:43 PM)
BIOS password? Gah! Open the casing and reset BIOS, puh the password gone. XP password? Use Ophcrack, in less than 10 minute the password is in hand already.
Create a hard, cryptic password, more than 14 characters, add spaces and symbols. Change it every week. I still have to thank you on guiding me how to use OphCrack that time
seiji_kun
Jul 12 2008, 07:51 PM
QUOTE(mckevin @ Jul 12 2008, 04:36 PM)
Here But u need to search for the ahem version..
where i cn geet tat ahem..hehe..
cheong86
Jul 12 2008, 07:59 PM
I'm really learnig alot from this. Thanks to those who contribute. I don't want to share with my brother beczo he everyday play game, and another younger brother PMR coming ....
old_calculator
Jul 12 2008, 08:45 PM
QUOTE(cheong86 @ Jul 12 2008, 07:59 PM)
I'm really learnig alot from this. Thanks to those who contribute. I don't want to share with my brother beczo he everyday play game, and another younger brother PMR coming ....
Use Random Password Generator and change it everyday
LinkThis way is much secure
eXPeri3nc3
Jul 12 2008, 08:48 PM
Err no need whatever crap software lah.
Just unplug your CDROM / DVDROM power cable from your casing (when you don't use it)
Disable boot via USB in your BIOS.
Change password every 1~2 weeks which consists of 14 alphanumerical + special symbols like !@#$%^&*()_+|"?><
That will make your computer secure from being accessed.
beyond_99
Jul 13 2008, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Jul 12 2008, 08:48 PM)
Err no need whatever crap software lah.
Just unplug your CDROM / DVDROM power cable from your casing (when you don't use it)
Disable boot via USB in your BIOS.
Change password every 1~2 weeks which consists of 14 alphanumerical + special symbols like !@#$%^&*()_+|"?><
That will make your computer secure from being accessed.
Then, the DVD rom will loose a bit if do that many times.
Eccentrical
Jul 14 2008, 12:11 AM
hmm....the same thing also happen in my family, i used the admin user and change the name, then create a new user with the same name as the previous admin. He was totally shock how i crack his pass, but it was too late. Now he always detach the power supply cable and hid it somewhere (dont have spare and not going into so much trouble just to use my lil bro pc)
kwtungmy
Jul 14 2008, 12:14 AM
yea, cut the power supply is the best

simple and easy.
or add bios password.
QUOTE(Eccentrical @ Jul 14 2008, 12:11 AM)
hmm....the same thing also happen in my family, i used the admin user and change the name, then create a new user with the same name as the previous admin. He was totally shock how i crack his pass, but it was too late. Now he always detach the power supply cable and hid it somewhere (dont have spare and not going into so much trouble just to use my lil bro pc)
budakhops
Jul 22 2008, 03:19 AM
QUOTE(Eccentrical @ Jul 14 2008, 12:11 AM)
hmm....the same thing also happen in my family, i used the admin user and change the name, then create a new user with the same name as the previous admin. He was totally shock how i crack his pass, but it was too late.
Now he always detach the power supply cable and hid it somewhere (dont have spare and not going into so much trouble just to use my lil bro pc)
wow... extreme measures hah...
gave me an idea oso to keep my lil bro from playing games all the time n not studyin... he got pmr comin...
mayhammer
Aug 2 2008, 12:42 AM
I used 2 USB
1) 64 MB
2) 256 MB
task is to scan pdfs that are zipped
64 MG USB took abou 1 minute
256 MB USB took about 13 sec
HDD took about 10 secs
Under load
HDD 13 secs
256 USB 19 secs
so in the end... even if the HDD is under heave load
it still beats the USB
my method is crude, but should be sufficient to prove a point
however, I dont have access to more "modern" USB devices
maybe those will yield better results
[AM]
Aug 2 2008, 10:05 PM
maybe your brother have a secret linux livecd to hack your account
fishooi
Aug 2 2008, 10:07 PM
obviously he used administrator to login to ur comp la... set admin pass, change pass regularly...
FarCry3r
Aug 8 2008, 11:56 AM
QUOTE(fishooi @ Aug 2 2008, 10:07 PM)
obviously he used administrator to login to ur comp la... set admin pass, change pass regularly...
what obviously? the only obvious thing I see here is you know nothing. There's tools that can completely remove all Windows passwords, including Administrator password. The solution? Install
Universal Shield, the next best thing to sex when protecting your files. It installs as a service so no one can disable it. If anyone try to uninstall, it will ask for password, if wrong password given, it will fake the uninstallation process. You can choose to hide the whole drive (just make sure you didn't hide your drive that have Windows files in it), a folder or just a single file, your wish. Then your brother will be fcuked up and he'll give up someday because he won't be able to crack it unless he can bring teh hard disk to another PC and play the game there...
da3shou3
Aug 8 2008, 03:06 PM
QUOTE(FarCry3r @ Aug 8 2008, 11:56 AM)
what obviously? the only obvious thing I see here is you know nothing. There's tools that can completely remove all Windows passwords, including Administrator password. The solution? Install
Universal Shield, the next best thing to sex when protecting your files. It installs as a service so no one can disable it. If anyone try to uninstall, it will ask for password, if wrong password given, it will fake the uninstallation process. You can choose to hide the whole drive (just make sure you didn't hide your drive that have Windows files in it), a folder or just a single file, your wish. Then your brother will be fcuked up and he'll give up someday because he won't be able to crack it unless he can bring teh hard disk to another PC and play the game there...
I did try with XP installed with my VM. It was easy enough to go to safe mode and disable the service so that you can log on as build-in local admin account.
It was a little tricky for those protected files. I could actually see those files once in safe mode so I figured something has to be loaded in normal startup. And then I come across this one:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/745431#lol?
So simple solution.

The only protection that cannot be undone or take a seriously long time to undo is probably encryption based protection. I'm pretty sure you cannot encrypt the whole HD itself without affecting the booting of XP. In any case, you can override the local admin password (in fact, any users password, and if you're smart enough, you can even change it back so that they don't know you did it) using a LiveCD. Anyhow, he'll be able to boot into the system. So in other words, the solution you provided is not as godly as you think.
Know nothing huh? zzz
Added on August 8, 2008, 3:18 pmFor OP, you won't be able to stop him from boot-up and log-on to your PC if he really want to because he don't even need a CD-ROM drive to do so.
BIOS password protection can be reset easily and those USB holes are everywhere on modern PC nowadays.
FarCry3r
Aug 8 2008, 03:33 PM
QUOTE(da3shou3 @ Aug 8 2008, 03:06 PM)
I did try with XP installed with my VM. It was easy enough to go to safe mode and disable the service so that you can log on as build-in local admin account.
It was a little tricky for those protected files. I could actually see those files once in safe mode so I figured something has to be loaded in normal startup. And then I come across this one:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/745431#lol?
So simple solution.

The only protection that cannot be undone or take a seriously long time to undo is probably encryption based protection. I'm pretty sure you cannot encrypt the whole HD itself without affecting the booting of XP. In any case, you can override the local admin password (in fact, any users password, and if you're smart enough, you can even change it back so that they don't know you did it) using a LiveCD. Anyhow, he'll be able to boot into the system. So in other words, the solution you provided is not as godly as you think.
Know nothing huh? zzz
ooooo really? if you go
here, the 18th feature in the list, developer
Everstrike said that:
QUOTE(Everstrike)
Protects files and folders even in Windows Safe Mode.
I've tried it myself and it's true that Safe Mode defeat the protection!

I've sent
Everstrike an email and let see what they'll respond to this. About encrypting, that's gonna be one hell of a job. Encrypting would take times, especially when the data to encrypt are large in size, and decrypting back... I'm too lazy to do that back and forth everytime I don't want anyone to mess with my game...
monsterface007
Aug 8 2008, 03:37 PM
100% sure he crack with cmd through safe mode. Set a bios password, that one very secure unless your bro go and reset the whole bios.
maiself
Aug 8 2008, 04:10 PM
to prevent him reset bios via bios jumper... go n lock ur casing hehehe
island
Aug 8 2008, 04:23 PM
QUOTE(cheong86 @ Jul 12 2008, 02:53 PM)
Haha ... problem solved. Everyday change password .. tedious but it's working. hehe ... my bro is 18 this year. Me older abit.

cool. everyday change password. sooner you yourself can't remember which f -u -c k password for the damn account.you can do what you want to do, but i still can get into your xp pc bypass the stupid password.
xcen
Aug 10 2008, 12:17 AM
QUOTE(island @ Aug 8 2008, 04:23 PM)

cool. everyday change password. sooner you yourself can't remember which f -u -c k password for the damn account.you can do what you want to do, but i still can get into your xp pc bypass the stupid password.
his brother? o.0
farscope
Aug 10 2008, 12:22 PM
use my mother's method.. keep away modem..
wat if it's not online game? then keep away monitor.. my mum lock it in her wardrobe, + lock room door..
wat if monitor is CRT type? keep away power cable/monitor cable..
easier way? keep keyboard n mouse.. GG.. cant do anything without both..
y do all the hard work?? cz my mum dunno set password.. =.="
all this method are used on my bro not me cz i got my own laptop.. lol..
spartacvs
Aug 10 2008, 08:15 PM
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QUOTE(farscope @ Aug 10 2008, 12:22 PM)
use my mother's method.. keep away modem..
wat if it's not online game? then keep away monitor.. my mum lock it in her wardrobe, + lock room door..
wat if monitor is CRT type? keep away power cable/monitor cable..
easier way? keep keyboard n mouse.. GG.. cant do anything without both..
y do all the hard work?? cz my mum dunno set password.. =.="
all this method are used on my bro not me cz i got my own laptop.. lol..
Your mother actually hid the monitor inside her wardrobe? That’s somewhat massive!
farscope
Aug 10 2008, 11:46 PM
lcd la bro..
Added on August 10, 2008, 11:47 pmlast time crt she keep away power cable for CPU n monitor.. last time not plug to CPU 1..
Jieb
Aug 11 2008, 02:06 PM
14 character password can crack meh? how many hours?
even got rainbow table cannot break it easy.. my 2 cent la..
better update ur AV and block any potential dangerous prog..
FarCry3r
Aug 11 2008, 03:47 PM
QUOTE(Jieb @ Aug 11 2008, 02:06 PM)
14 character password can crack meh? how many hours?
even got rainbow table cannot break it easy.. my 2 cent la..
better update ur AV and block any potential dangerous prog..
no need to crack with rainbow, just use "tools" to reset the password...
Added on August 11, 2008, 4:17 pmQUOTE(da3shou3 @ Aug 8 2008, 03:06 PM)
I did try with XP installed with my VM. It was easy enough to go to safe mode and disable the service so that you can log on as build-in local admin account.
It was a little tricky for those protected files. I could actually see those files once in safe mode so I figured something has to be loaded in normal startup. And then I come across this one:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/745431#lol?
So simple solution.

This is the reply I got when asking about the "protection" in safe-mode:
QUOTE(Everstrike)
Hello,
this option work only in registered version.
Best Regards,
Richard Davids,
Everstrike Software
----- Original Message -----
From: "FarCry3r" <FarCry3r@yahoo.com>
To: <support@everstrike.com>
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:59 AM
Subject: To Everstrike Software Support
> Message to Everstrike Software support from www.everstrike.com
>
> Name: FarCry3r
> Email: FarCry3r@yahoo.com
>
> Product: Universal Shield
> Version: 4.2
> OS: Windows XP SP2
>
> Key:
>
> Message: You claim that Universal Shield can lock/hide the files/folders
> even in Safe Mode. But after trying it, that is just not happening. I
> can see my previously locked & hidden folder in Safe Mode. Can you
> give comment about this? Thanks
>
>
so looks like our friend here use "ahem" or trial version, no wonder it won't work...
howszat
Aug 11 2008, 04:53 PM
Did you set auto-login in your browser? Then your bro is probably reading all your threads, hahaha
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