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Hyde`fK
So basically 9800GT would be a rebadged 8800GT but under 55nm die size. Pricing still unknown. Initially first suggested starting price is around USD250, but after ATI releases theirs 4K series, nVIDIA plans to sell is at a much lower price of USD$149 or perhaps USD$139. Having this price, directly challenging HD4850, would be another hard time for user to decides.

http://www.neoseeker.com/news/8353-nvidias...gt-coming-soon/

Discuss.
lehteck
When will out ar this new cards??

July or Aug?? drool.gif drool.gif

Hope is custom fan desigN~
Hyde`fK
Not sure eh. Soon gua. If price is around USD140, that's around RM500 only. drool.gif But performance wise don't know how good also.
lehteck
G92B core right?

Read from some chinese site that it's using dual slot cooling for 9800gtx+ and single slot for 9800gt~
Hyde`fK
Yea G92b. Custom cooling eh?
pikacu
9800GTX+ cooler is identical to 9800GTX cooler..

9800GT cooler seems to be 7900GT cooler?
lehteck
Hope is custom designed fan la~!~

Don't always reference laugh.gif laugh.gif
pr0t0typ3
waaaa...nice. hope nvidia can backup their gtx200 series.wonder the performance compare to 4850...
kmarc
Hmmmm... interesting..... I better put my plans of getting another 8800GT on hold......
Terence573
mayb worth a try for 8800gt Sli instead of this 9800gt.
Nemesis181188
Great price war happening.But we've yet to see the performance.But looking at the 9800gt being a rebranded 8800gt,isn't that older technology?Wouldn't it be having a hard time competing against the HD4850?
lehteck
Erm...

I think it's 55mm g92b core? lol..

If the price really USD $149, then worth a try
pr0t0typ3
thats mean performance og88gt and 98gt is about the same?since its the same techonology.
Terence573
65nm vs 55nm...
pr0t0typ3
smaller die size maybe it got lower power consumption. a lil greener i'd say.
TristanX
Interesting but I don't think I will touch any graphic card for some time until it slows down. A lot of new things has been coming out for the past 6 months.
lehteck
LOL..

More n more new thing are on the way also..

now is no money no new thing world ahahha
digita1tech
Now the high-mid range fall to mid-range category.........what happen next???
danieljoey
Wah... nv is tempting those gc buyer again.. giving u a ride in the park.. rclxms.gif
ganaz-x
I just have to let this out...look at the initial price. USD250? Suddenly they wanna sell it at USD149? Thats a 100 bucks difference. Either they will sell it at loss or nvidia wanted to rip off the buyers with their initial pricing shakehead.gif
goldfries
don't tell me it's another one of those stupid NV naming conventions.

i mean look at it

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One card that should be even less expensive then the aforementioned products is NVIDIA's upcoming 9800 GT. The 9800 GT is basically a die-shrunk 8800 GT. The 8800 GT has a 65nm GPU where the 9800 GT has a 55nm part. Apparently this video card has been peaking through the hedges for a while, turning up here and there, and should be coming not too long from now, although no official announcement has been made.


look, if it was a DIE-SHRUNK 8800GT, then please call it 8800GT-ds or something - NOT the 9800GT

look at 7600GT vs 8600GT - you see the 8600GT has performance boost.
8600GT vs 9600GT - performance boost too!

but to call 8800GT and 9800GT but to run it at the same speed would be damn ridiculous.

just because it's on a shrunken die that doesn't merit a GENERATION boost IMO.

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The 9800 GT apparently is reportedly set to the same clocks as the 8800 GT ( 600/1500/1800 MHz, [core/shader/memory])


sweat.gif the 9800GTX itself was a joke IMO. one generation higher than 8800GTS and even have a GTX name but performance is almost same. it's like WTH!??!?! so little performance boost despite being a generation and a step higher?
pikacu
QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2008, 12:39 AM)
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Plusmore, what and why they "bump" 9-series product name, while they are currently at GT200 series..
danieljoey
NV has made a mistake releasing 8800GT and 8800GTS G92... Cause that 2 card perform too well..
NV release those 2 just to counter ATI 3870 and 3850.. but they never thought of it also counter their 9 series card as well.. rclxub.gif
goldfries
let's not forget 9600GT that also hurt their own product range. smile.gif
danieljoey
QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2008, 01:01 AM)
let's not forget 9600GT that also hurt their own product range. smile.gif
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Wat about 9600GT ??? It good compared to 8600GT.. ehehe drool.gif
goldfries
FYI the 9600GT's performance is so good, it actually comes to like 90% - 100% of the 8800GT while being like what? 66% - 75% the price of 8800GT. biggrin.gif

in the past there was just 8600GT and 8600GTS (the GTS was lousy when comes to price : perf ratio) then next step up was 8800GTS 320mb - so that's like quite some gap.

with 9600GT (along with the G92) - people could actually settle for the 9600GT instead of the 8800GT.
pr0t0typ3
world changed, nvidia no longer in control in graphic industries.
1 more, i think nvidia marketing strategy suxxx..makes ppl hate them overtime.
kmarc
QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2008, 12:39 AM)
don't tell me it's another one of those stupid NV naming conventions.

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Maybe it is because they also included the "Hybrid power" and "tri-SLI" feature (read some where...) ..... more features, die shrink, not the same as 8800GT ma..... then again, they should have named it 8800GT+ shocking.gif
goldfries
btw http://www.neoseeker.com/news/8083-zotac-f...h-hybrid-power/

8800GT also got hybrid power version. biggrin.gif NV really need work on naming conventions, 9800GTX and 8800GS wasn't good. smile.gif calling a feature changed 8800GT a 9800GT is a nono in my book if the performance remains the same.
ruffstuff
let just say they trying to be creative on what's left in their pocket.
pr0t0typ3
QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jul 11 2008, 07:32 AM)
let just say they trying to be creative on what's left in their pocket.
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agreed...since they have lost so much.

i heard that nvidia already started on gt300 series. i think it is the counter measure for their problem now.
skylinegtr34rule4life
hahaha i am expecting that 9800gt existence laugh.gif and 2 see nividia is suffering and struggling in meltdown mode now is awesome laugh.gif
goldfries
with 9800GT announced, who want to buy 8800GT la.
lehteck
Maybe 8800gt drop to entry lvl price range doh.gif doh.gif

Is there any official statement about when to release the card? hmm.gif hmm.gif * english bad..sorry notworthy.gif *
TristanX
8800GT already dropped to around RM650. That is affordable price range.
kmarc
QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2008, 11:31 AM)
with 9800GT announced, who want to buy 8800GT la.
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Me. laugh.gif Waiting for 2nd-hand ones to drop below RM400.... then can get one for my 2nd folding rig.... drool.gif

QUOTE(lehteck @ Jul 11 2008, 11:40 AM)
Maybe 8800gt drop to entry lvl price range doh.gif  doh.gif

Is there any official statement about when to release the card? hmm.gif  hmm.gif  * english bad..sorry  notworthy.gif  *
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Some websites say it is coming out this month.... hope so cause my hand already very very itchy....... whistling.gif
danieljoey
QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2008, 01:27 AM)
FYI the 9600GT's performance is so good, it actually comes to like 90% - 100% of the 8800GT while being like what? 66% - 75% the price of 8800GT. biggrin.gif

in the past there was just 8600GT and 8600GTS (the GTS was lousy when comes to price : perf ratio) then next step up was 8800GTS 320mb - so that's like quite some gap.

with 9600GT (along with the G92) - people could actually settle for the 9600GT instead of the 8800GT.
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Hmmm.. icic...

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 11 2008, 11:31 AM)
with 9800GT announced, who want to buy 8800GT la.
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how much is the performance boost between 9800GT and 8800GT ??
pikacu
QUOTE(TristanX @ Jul 11 2008, 12:28 PM)
8800GT already dropped to around RM650. That is affordable price range.
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better buy HD4850 at that price =_="
pr0t0typ3
the performance will be just the same..since the same core only shrunk to smaller die size. maybe the power usage is difference, slightly lower.
eluna
QUOTE(pr0t0typ3 @ Jul 11 2008, 02:56 PM)
the performance will be just the same..since the same core only shrunk to smaller die size. maybe the power usage is difference, slightly lower.
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from picture fan speed adjust-able too, yet... maybe more cooler
lolx


if good, definitely i will get this one
168257061
happy birthday danieljoey smile.gif

hmm...

I wonder why they develop the 9800GT and put the same clock as 8800GT hmm.gif

Any different between this and 8800GT ??

Btw , damn hate Palit brand.
Cheap but low ocbility shakehead.gif
pr0t0typ3
i think not much difference..maybe just a lil improvement.
goldfries
QUOTE(pikacu @ Jul 11 2008, 02:34 PM)
better buy HD4850 at that price =_="
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yes. cos HD4850 also around RM 650 but performance of 9800GTX wor.

9800GTX vs 8800GT, a lot of performance difference leh.


QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 11 2008, 02:04 PM)
Me.  laugh.gif Waiting for 2nd-hand ones to drop below RM400.... then can get one for my 2nd folding rig....  drool.gif


currently folding on 9600GT and 8600GT. smile.gif i miss the 9800GTX...... but only for folding reasons.
168257061
sign0006.gif

goldfries...

I saw your product gallery there...

yeah , they are nice but for my personal preference ....

I'd like to see the product w/o bokeh..

what you think ? biggrin.gif
RegentCid
wonder when will release that 9500GT? like no more news already.
dlwl
yeah..maybe nvidia wanna concentrate on fighting off ati 4850 first? laugh.gif if not they'll lose quite a lot le...now itself also losing d..in terms of performance and $$..as said in previous posts, if 9800GT priced around rm500 would be nice biggrin.gif
SkywalkerxX
now it's like ATI age already came back haha
goldfries
QUOTE(168257061 @ Jul 11 2008, 08:50 PM)
sign0006.gif

goldfries...

I saw your product gallery there...

yeah , they are nice but for my personal preference ....

I'd like to see the product w/o bokeh..

what you think ? biggrin.gif


hehe. preference lor. i got tired of the usual shots i see other place, i prefer to see it with bokeh, sharpness only highlighted on the part i wish to emphasize. smile.gif
168257061
QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 12 2008, 01:08 AM)
hehe. preference lor. i got tired of the usual shots i see other place, i prefer to see it with bokeh, sharpness only highlighted on the part i wish to emphasize. smile.gif
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owh yeah.... tongue.gif

danieljoey
QUOTE(168257061 @ Jul 11 2008, 04:26 PM)
happy birthday danieljoey smile.gif

hmm...

I wonder why they develop the 9800GT and put the same clock as 8800GT hmm.gif

Any different between this and 8800GT ??

Btw , damn hate Palit brand.
Cheap but low ocbility shakehead.gif
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Oh thanks my friend.. never thought someone would notice or even wish me.. hehe icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif
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