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sigheart
QUOTE(lex @ Jul 7 2008, 04:03 PM)


So fast, last time had a P4 then dual core came out, skipped it and jumped straight to quad will prolly be skipping Nelhalem sweat.gif
kmarc
Funny that Nehalem will initially only support lower spec-ed DDR3 800, 1066 and 1333mhz..... maybe this will be offset by triple-channel and integrated memory? hmm.gif
davidletterboyz
QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 7 2008, 06:30 PM)
Funny that Nehalem will initially only support lower spec-ed DDR3 800, 1066 and 1333mhz..... maybe this will be offset by triple-channel and integrated memory?  hmm.gif
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Yes...obviously. biggrin.gif
SeaMonster
When Will This Monster Launch?

End Of This Year? Or Next Year ?

johnkor
wah processor chaser spoted !
AMDAthlon
Bloomfield is expected this year.Mainstream is next year IINM
SeaMonster
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 7 2008, 06:56 PM)
Bloomfield is expected this year.Mainstream is next year IINM
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Okie.. Ic
Boomeraangkid
had enough of buying these stuff for the next few years,but i really wanna own it!
clayclws
I would love to have this on either a Macbook Pro or whatever upcoming laptop. Guess that's gonna be a long time coming.


Added on July 7, 2008, 8:19 pmHmmm...for desktop PC, overclocking would require new set of mounts for heatsinks or water cooling, etc.
exhauster
can it support overclocking ??? as last time rumour stated it cant b oc except for high end
ham_revilo
QUOTE(exhauster @ Jul 7 2008, 08:57 PM)
can it support overclocking ??? as last time rumour stated it cant b oc except for high end
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i heard that nahalem cant be overclock or maybe some of the nehalem's proc. iirc its due to global warming or something like that.
clayclws
QUOTE(exhauster @ Jul 7 2008, 08:57 PM)
can it support overclocking ??? as last time rumour stated it cant b oc except for high end
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According to this:
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/37824/135/
You can actually overclock Nehalem.
kazairol
looong time ago,
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...hl=X58,+Nehalem
danieljoey
Wah new architecture .. shocking.gif
Just got my Q9450 2 weeks ago..
Might need to change whole pc next year when Nehalem is out.. whistling.gif
arjuna_mfna
intel doing very ggod job, look amd left far behind... still wanting for full list of proc model and the price as well, i think now is the best time start saving....
dlwl
amd so far never come out any new processors besides the phenoms, x4 and x3..well, intel has been coming out with processors like nobody's business laugh.gif they seem to be driving the technology in processors nowadays. but aren't the users gonna lose? coz some might just buy their new processor, maybe about a year or less a new one with new technology comes out in market. i remember in those pentium 4 days, the amount of new processors coming out in market isn't as afast as this..
lex
Just came in....'Nehalem' 2.93 GHz Benches Revealed - Tom's Hardware icon_rolleyes.gif
riku2replica
eh... nehalem vs E8520???
minghao
So fast,X48 just not long ago only,so fast X58 plus nehalem also. blink.gif

And Nehalem got 8 threads?Meanz virtual more 4 cores?
rosihan
Nehalem use new socket arr
danieljoey
QUOTE(rosihan @ Jul 10 2008, 04:53 PM)
Nehalem use new socket arr
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Yup... Its socket 13xx.. forgot the number de... rclxms.gif
glen_cct
QUOTE(rosihan @ Jul 10 2008, 04:53 PM)
Nehalem use new socket arr
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here the new socket .. LGA-1366
http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/intel/sho...aspx?i=3326&p=3
Blood_Seeker28
i heard some people said the nehalem proc will using socket 771..
am i rite or wrong?
danieljoey
QUOTE(Blood_Seeker28 @ Jul 10 2008, 06:55 PM)
i heard some people said the nahelem proc will using socket 771..
am i rite or wrong?
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no its 1366
rosihan
Wah need 2 buy new Mobo if upgrade
AMDAthlon
IINM it has 2 Socket
1 is 1366 and another is 11xx..forgot edy
suicideroach
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 10 2008, 09:06 PM)
IINM it has 2 Socket
1 is 1366 and another is 11xx..forgot edy
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yes, socket 1366 is for the high-end proc, and socket 1160 is for the mainstream proc..
minghao
QUOTE(suicideroach @ Jul 10 2008, 09:15 PM)
yes, socket 1366 is for the high-end proc, and socket 1160 is for the mainstream proc..
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Thanks for info. smile.gif
rosihan
so no chance upgrd frm mainstream to Hi end sad.gif
ndgoh
Jelly good!!! nehalem come out I can buy penryn cheap cheap!!!
joe_star
Hmm....the socket thing has me a little bothered. Right now I can pop anything from a p4 to a quad core xtreme in my mobo, but I guess that'll change with nehalem huh? sad.gif
lex
QUOTE(joe_star @ Jul 10 2008, 10:01 PM)
Hmm....the socket thing has me a little bothered. Right now I can pop anything from a p4 to a quad core xtreme in my mobo, but I guess that'll change with nehalem huh? sad.gif
Unfortunately that's correct... like AMD way, change RAM type, change socket... tongue.gif

Just hope that new socket and DDR3 will last long time... sweat.gif
minghao
But Nehalem is still far from now right?Dont worry..hehe
glen_cct
QUOTE(lex @ Jul 10 2008, 10:05 PM)
Unfortunately that's correct... like AMD way, change RAM type, change socket... tongue.gif

Just hope that new socket and DDR3 will last long time... sweat.gif
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I hope that so too..
also hope the socket using in standard one, like LGA1366 and the 11xx -.-" sigh~
2 different socket using for 1 kind processor.


QUOTE(minghao @ Jul 10 2008, 10:09 PM)
But Nehalem is still far from now right?Dont worry..hehe
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Intel announced will release in this year.. but dont know if it's mainstream or high end though ^^
danieljoey
omg 2 socket...
cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
glen_cct
*edited .. outdate info posted -.-"
suicideroach
QUOTE(glen_cct @ Jul 10 2008, 10:38 PM)
I hope that so too..
also hope the socket using in standard one, like LGA1366 and the 11xx -.-" sigh~
2 different socket using for 1 kind processor.
Intel announced will release in this year.. but dont know if it's mainstream or high end though ^^
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as usual, they will release the high end nahelem first, like the wolfdale and penyrn sweat.gif

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For starters, Nehalem is only going to release in Extreme-versions at first - in other words the most expensive high performance chips that drive enthusiasts wild and break bank accounts.

sos

but the really bad news is, Intel will lock the overclocking capabilities on the mainstream nahelem sad.gif
Zmir
QUOTE(suicideroach @ Jul 11 2008, 07:45 PM)
but the really bad news is, Intel will lock the overclocking capabilities on the mainstream nahelem  sad.gif
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AMD cannot fight so intel wanna bully us?! shakehead.gif
i really hope intel wont do that
danieljoey
QUOTE(suicideroach @ Jul 11 2008, 07:45 PM)
as usual, they will release the high end nahelem first, like the wolfdale and penyrn  sweat.gif
sos

but the really bad news is, Intel will lock the overclocking capabilities on the mainstream nahelem  sad.gif
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Pls google again.. early news state that OC is not possible in Nehalem..
But after awhile.. ppl realize OC is possible in Nehalem..
clayclws
QUOTE(Zmir @ Jul 14 2008, 08:47 AM)
AMD cannot fight so intel wanna bully us?!  shakehead.gif
i really hope intel wont do that
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AMD will fight back. They need to. Else no competition will kill consumers.
suicideroach
QUOTE(danieljoey @ Jul 14 2008, 10:23 AM)
Pls google again.. early news state that OC is not possible in Nehalem..
But after awhile.. ppl realize OC is possible in Nehalem..
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sorry for my mistakes sweat.gif i'm so outdated tongue.gif
Zmir
QUOTE(clayclws @ Jul 14 2008, 10:30 PM)
AMD will fight back. They need to. Else no competition will kill consumers.
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they will, and they need to! but can they?
by the looks of how Intel is pwning AMD in their cpu it seems quite a while before they can do anything!
but i think AMD is quite happy with their GC sales and performance, that they are going to put extra fundings to their GC and forget about their chips for a while..
but hey, what do i know laugh.gif
danieljoey
QUOTE(suicideroach @ Jul 16 2008, 01:43 PM)
sorry for my mistakes  sweat.gif i'm so outdated  tongue.gif
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No prob dude..

QUOTE(Zmir @ Jul 16 2008, 11:15 PM)
they will, and they need to! but can they?
by the looks of how Intel is pwning AMD in their cpu it seems quite a while before they can do anything!
but i think AMD is quite happy with their GC sales and performance, that they are going to put extra fundings to their GC and forget about their chips for a while..
but hey, what do i know  laugh.gif
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Im sure they will... But the problem is.. can they pickup the pace ? since they are so far behind...
Intel is moving to Octa-Core and AMD baru come 45nm...
Yeah.. AMD sure is focusing on ATI now.. since they are better in that area... so close to nVidia GTX280 already...
lex
Stuff found around the net...

Nehalem pricing... http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=14376
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According to HKEPC, which cites motherboard manufacturers as its source, Intel's 2.66GHz Bloomfield part will retail at a surprisingly low $284, in one thousand unit quantities. Intel clearly doesn't want customers to wait until 2009 for its mid-range Nehalem parts, and if sub-$300 parts do arrive in Q4, there could be every reason for a Christmas upgrade.

The 2.66GHz chip will be joined by 2.93GHz and 3.2GHz parts, priced at $562 and $999, respectively. The latter 3.2GHz part will be branded an Extreme product, a title reflected in its price-tag.

This rumoured pricing is yet to be confirmed by Intel, but if a 2.66GHz Bloomfield arrived in Q4 with a retail price of say $299 or around £199, it would make for a mighty tempting upgrade. Though, you'll have to factor in the cost of a required motherboard upgrade for socket 1366.


Nehalem launch schedule? http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/07/14/ne...eek-40-and-44/1
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Tentatively set your calenders because week 44, or late September, since this is when X58 and Nehalem's Bloomfield boards will arrive for us consumers.

Well, maybe. Between hearing the news and writing the news there was an insinuation that Intel might push it back because the new chipset and architecture might have a few issues.

We're not talking G45 delays, but we're aware some motherboard engineers are upset with Intel because even this late in the day it's suggesting component changes, which could affect design and sampling schedules. With only six weeks to go Intel might be giving the Taiwanese a few ulcers!

We've also been told that Intel's premium X58 chipset alone will cost $70, making the boards quite expensive, but this is not unexpected and by no means completely insane like Nvidia launching the nForce 790i Ultra SLI with a chipset that cost $100+. Instead just expect new technologies to charge a happy premium for the time being.

If you're the big business type and want workstation and server parts, you're in luck because those should launch four weeks earlier in week 40. Single socket Xeons are where we'll get the first idea of Nehalem performance over Penryn, however it makes us wonder why Intel are moving so early to its new architecture with Penryn doing so well.

Usually we see the newest parts arrive in October - we hope Intel hasn't taken a leaf out the graphics book of ever intensive product launch sequences.


Intel unveils Nehalem demo machine http://www.hothardware.com/News/Intel_Neha...SSD_Sneak_Peek/ brows.gif
danieljoey
QUOTE(lex @ Jul 17 2008, 02:10 AM)
Stuff found around the net...

Nehalem pricing... http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=14376

Nehalem launch schedule? http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2008/07/14/ne...eek-40-and-44/1

Intel unveils Nehalem demo machine http://www.hothardware.com/News/Intel_Neha...SSD_Sneak_Peek/  brows.gif
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Wah so fast !!!... They really tear my pocket..
lex
More Nehalem news here http://www.tweaktown.com/news/9837/nehalem...p_gets_clearer/
AMDAthlon
Hmm interesting..
But anyone knows how much the X58 boards?
AMD is focusing more to business and mainstream.Look at ATi and Opterons..
I still does wonder how's shanghai's doing.. doh.gif
So far only Deneb SuperPI has leaked..
lex
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 17 2008, 11:03 PM)
But anyone knows how much the X58 boards?
Unknown.. Hopefully will be cheaper than those NVIDIA 790i boards.. sweat.gif

QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ Jul 17 2008, 11:03 PM)
I still does wonder how's shanghai's doing.. doh.gif
So far only Deneb SuperPI has leaked..
Shanghai and Deneb should be the same, just different target markets.. like Barcelona and Phenom. Concerning the SuperPi results, it does somewhat shows that the bigger cache could possibly influence the outcome (better late than never on big caches like Intel has implemented). AMD gamers can rejoice since games love cache... However the SuperPi result does not always apply to real world applications, but does give an indication of how it will perform... looks like Deneb will be faster than Phenom, not by much methinks in order of 3%~5% avarage, but bigger percentage in programs that can occupy the cache (without having to access the slower RAM always). Just guesstimations only... unsure.gif
AMDAthlon
But strange,why Nehalems has 256KBytesX4
The Caches between AMD and Intel diff is 1MB* only.
But if thats so from what i HEAR Opterons does better in some real world apps compare to xeon..so you know la..
Hmm how much current X 48 prices?If RM 1.2k example,i think it will be ranging from 1.5k~2k?
I wonder how..it would performs(both Deneb and Nehalems). sweat.gif
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