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I thought of going for pure Gothic fashion session, but I don't understand the theme well enough to make it even acceptable. Yes, shame on me for suggesting it in first place. I'm sorry.

So instead of going with a not so familiar theme, I opted to proceed with a theme I'm familiar: depression. A lot more general, I think it'll be easier for both model and photographer to maximize their imagination. Let it be goth or anything.

Quoted from my own blog: I’ve been to a lot of funerals, farewell gatherings or parties, and some heartwarming events with mass-crying-session on agenda. I’ve seen my grandfather’s body (he died of liver cancer four years ago) being pushed into the cremation chamber. I carried my friend into a stranger’s car so he could be sent to the nearest hospital after a freak accident, and I was told he didn’t survived the drive. My point is, you don’t see me cry anymore on these sad occasion because I’ve been to so many of them I got used to the depressing atmosphere already. I do feel sad, but it’s not enough to obstruct my first instinct: to witness and to preserve the moments.

And somehow, I started to love depression. Even in casual friend portraits, I tend to look for the sad look (which is actually just a blank look in between conversations, they're not really sad).

I want to do this project because I want to spread the love for depression (or emo, lol). And to practice my portrait shots.

Anyway. This project will start with tryouts - me going around taking photos of models. The shots will be done in Sunway University College, places like Roof Top Theater, classes (they have the brick walls I want), and many more. If needed, we'll go to Kota Kemuning for the Lake Side Drive, you know, for the lake.

Here's a list of some photos I wish to produce in the tryouts:












So, it's more like a personal project for now. If anyone of you are still interested in this session after seeing what I take (most probably at this Saturday or Sunday), let me know, and I'll run something with it.

While I think this is a nice idea. it will not be easy to pull it off, cos you will need lights (lots of it, even though you're creating a dark theme, which I like BTW)

having only 1 photographer per session, while I like it, I personally don't think I can handle it due to lack of creative style, hence some helping hands/brains would be nice.

Maybe extending it to 1:2 or even 1:3?

As for lighting... I think it's about time to invest in some DIY tools like yours. My father manages a hardware store so I wun be having much problem getting the PVC pipes or other materials. But I'll need guides on what to get of course.

Lots of high watt bulbs. then after that probably you can DIY a softbox for the lamps.

I already made my DIY continuous lighting system using 2x150W Halogen light bulbs/flood lights. It's mounted on a DIY PVC tubing.

I'm not sure why but one of the bulbs, after going through the blue filter, will be daylight like light, the other one, still retains it's yellowish tint.

I also have a BIG DIY reflector. BIG = 6feetx3feet.

to me i think the lighting wouldnt be a prob...
2-3 speedlights could do it...
but this place seems more appropriate for lingerie shoot not gothic...

wouldn't the Perkeliling Flat some of us shoot last time more suitable for gothic style ?

does the bedroom have anything related with gothic?
go to some old church or those abandoned place is better arent it

later joyce father comes to in the room n whalap u all with all the PVC in his hardware shop.. then u all baru tau..

gothic ar...
best shoot without any lighting to get the dark and eriee effect
remember, don't just shoot the gothic model - shoot the gothic model in a gothic environment

of course for this, a good lense with big aperture is the best

any dungeon style kind of place?

then i think the Perkeliling Flat would be the best place la.. coz, from what i see from thier pictures last time.. that place looks scary n abandon...

what about doing a story book line?
Staged Kidnap, thrown into trunk and taken to a dark secluded place, light lots of candles amid a pentagram logo in the center.

People with hoods kneeling down around the model chanting...

myjunk brain engine sudah working already..
yesterday he head was too messed up with something.. he wasnt thinking very well.. face also looks soo moody.. less smiles from what i usually see in the photo from TT session u guys..

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Added on July 6, 2008, 3:21 pm

myjunk brain engine sudah working already..
yesterday he head was too messed up with something.. he wasnt thinking very well.. face also looks soo moody.. less smiles from what i usually see in the photo from TT session u guys..

some suicide theme
http://flickr.com/photos/idolum_visions/311267517/
http://flickr.com/photos/disneyprincess/323714469/

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Added on July 6, 2008, 3:37 pmhttp://flickr.com/photos/kellyashcraft/2132565654/

interesting theme. but who is gonna clean up joyce's bathroom after that. lol.

Joyce, since your dad own hardware store.. wont be a problem to get a parang as props rite? haha. since gothic is always related to suicide for some reason.

Gothic with parang? That's... interesting.

Throw in a cangkul as well!

For gothic look, I think valho and /hack fusion has a lot of friends right?
Gothic clothes ain't cheap

I concur as well, the room is not gothic enough. Try abandoned buildings and then pp it to make the pics look dark.

Gothic theme mainly cosist of Black and Red.

Alright, opinions so far:

1. suicide
2. darker/gothic-ier place
3. story line

Say, I looked into the Gothic thing a bit on the internet and i found this:
http://www.carmenyuen.com/blog/post/index/...LL-PHOTO-SERIES

Never knew there's sub categories and so on

From what i see in the link intimidated posted above, seems like the clothing consists of alot of laces.

And i think we dont need to go to the extreme by splashing fake blood or anything related to that. Just some horrifying/emo/sad make-up.

Still, the effect would be cool



and some photos I found from google

Hmm i hope one forumer named rad!cal can advise on u guys if his still around. He did make superb potrait shoots on evon with gothic themes a few months back.

yeah.. I remember his photos. Nice..

i tried seach n didnt see anything with his post related to gothic stuff..
anyone got pictures taken from him?

Is radical's picture on Gothic style? I don't think so.

But I like his style. Evont has that kinda style. Too bad she's busy working now. She's a good and friendly model

Hmmm if u dont feel his theme is gothic but for me its almost. Check out his pics with evon where most of his theme were dark themed. Almost essembles of an gothic theme.

gothic lolita rock star~~~count me in!

yeah.. if gothic theme.. count me in.. but try la find free model..

u all might want to see these group photos for ideas

Fetish and Goth Models
Gothic Babes

Wah, eddie also coming ar? the last time i saw you was i think 1 year back. dont think you can remember me.




Wooo..., bun coming also? i thought you couldn't make it?

i cant make it THIS week.. im going PD.. im going to make my own bikini shooting with random chicks there... (im sad already i cant join u guys.. so let me dream abit la... i know, PD where got hot chickss.. )

Just hope its not some aunty wearing bikini.

why la u must kacau my dreams.. why la why!!!!????

just telling you the possibilities, theres still a long way down the list.

Here 's some ideas~~

updated in first post as well

This whole thing is going to the wrong direction.

I don't want it to be just another photo shooting session. Gather, snap snap, go home post photo, end of story. I want "meaning". I want to produce "something".

Like art exhibitions, there's story, and there's arts.

What I had in mind is more like a movie though. I'm the producer, photographers are the directors, and models are the actors. I'll have someone (scriptwriter) to come up with a short story, and photographers will work on the theme with models.

Unlike making a movie, I don't earn from end product. Except maybe some credit. So I'm not paying both photographers and models.

I'll provide the idea and the theme, if photographers like it, I'll get models which photographers will pay, through me.

Saying I don't want to earn at all is a lie. I'll take a small share from what photographers are paying (usually RM50, seems like that's the acceptable price tag in here), just enough to buy me a few very humble lunch. In return, I'll work my best on arranging things as needed.

Now we have the basic idea, let's do some survey.

My first production theme: Suicidal
Possible direction of story: Goth + Suicidal + Depressing

What do you think? Are you slightly interested at all?

interested with your idea...please correct me if i got it wronf..so u mean that there is character development for the model is it..??since i see u have some1 to write a script for this project...

overall..i like it..since it look to be something different....but gonna wait for further development...

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Added on July 10, 2008, 7:39 am

Urm...though Goth subsulture can be represented as suicidal, I don't think it's an appropriate theme. Why not work towards a theme which portrays the better side of Goth. To communicate to others an understanding of its subculture. What made me think this are quotes like this...



These quotes made me feel like Goth are filled with lots of anger, frustration, disappointment - dark feelings. Therefore, I'd recommend capturing the dark but beautiful side of a Goth. Beauty may not be in terms of face but the creative shot done.

Here's the problem, dark scene...creative lighting. LOL!

p.s: I noticed if you want to place a price tag on the shoot, you'll have to show the model and have an idea where you're shooting. This comforts members to know their money is well spent.

Well, that's my 2 cents and research.

gothic and suicidal don't work together

suicidal is for whiny depressive emos
gothic is more like vampiric something like that

in the west.... the goth hates emos so much because they say emos make the goths image look weak...lol



lol

so, why dont we have both.. fighting.. on the bed...

what's with so emo theme

we met before? cant recall joining any LYN outings. please refresh my memory

anyway, a guy is fine too

err.. you remember the truimph lingerie shoot in lot10 if im not mistaken, last year.. i was with scott and nairud.

lingerie? neva happened, the only 1 time i met with LYN forumer was during TXN

wrong eddy?

Thought i'd contribut something i found today. Pretty darn good the person who re-touched this.

The KLPAC area that there i went got 1 OLD mansion/house..no windows and roof style. Should be creepy at night.

so whats the latest update on this project..??

marc?? it's you?

can sony fella join??
i love the theme
since i had o lot of frenz into black metal