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inventorfam2004
Erm, I am a newbie in OCing. I don't wanna OC like reach 3.5 la and so on. I just want your opinion see this rig can be optimized anot. Thx
The specs are :

|| Intel Q9450 2.66GHz 1333MHz drool.gif
|| Deepcool Alpha 7 HSF ( Forced to use because stock HSF cannot fit ) doh.gif
|| Corsair Twin2X4096-6400C4DHX ( 4-4-4-12 ) 2*2GB
|| 500GB SATAII 7200RPM HDD ( Don't know what brand dy )
|| Gigabyte X48-DQ6
|| Gigabyte ODIN PRO 550W
|| Gigabyte iSolo 210
|| Gigabyte 9600GT 512MB
|| LG SecureDisk Combo Drive
|| Samsung BWX 17" Monitor

I didn't OC now, so I wanna ask if this system can be further optimized? Because when the Vista Ultimate load from coldboot it took a long time ( 15 sec ). rclxub.gif

Besides I haven't got keyboard mouse and speaker. flex.gif Hope can get any reckon here. Thx Thx!!

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jinaun
i would recommend you increase the FSB to 400MHZ or (1600mhz)

it should oc very nicely to 3.2GHz without any need of voltage adjustments
inventorfam2004
QUOTE(jinaun @ Jul 2 2008, 03:54 PM)
i would recommend you increase the FSB to 400MHZ or (1600mhz)

it should oc very nicely to 3.2GHz without any need of voltage adjustments
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Erm, then how about other parameter? RAM and other?

Actually I am very new to OC. I don't even know how to OC to stable even a little. Can you teach me? Thank you

By the way. My room no air cond leh... Will burn the whole thing ma? Cause the cooler not so good one.
jinaun
QUOTE(inventorfam2004 @ Jul 2 2008, 02:58 PM)
Erm, then how about other parameter? RAM and other?

Actually I am very new to OC. I don't even know how to OC to stable even a little. Can you teach me? Thank you

By the way. My room no air cond leh... Will burn the whole thing ma? Cause the cooler not so good one.
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you can leave the other settings alone..

first get your system to run at fsb 1600, later you can set the ram to run at 800mhz 4-4-4-12

i'm not familiar with gigabyte bios implementation , but you can refer to manual to help you.

it won burn your whole thing.. the worst thing your cpu will just overheat and throttle down... to 2.4ghz, if you feel that its too warm.. then i would suggest you change to aftermarket heatsinks.. which can provide better cooling /or increase your cpu fan speed to compensate for the increase of the cpu temp.
inventorfam2004
QUOTE(jinaun @ Jul 2 2008, 04:03 PM)
you can leave the other settings alone..

first get your system to run at fsb 1600, later you can set the ram to run at 800mhz 4-4-4-12

i'm not familiar with gigabyte bios implementation , but you can refer to manual to help you.

it won burn your whole thing.. the worst thing your cpu will just overheat and throttle down... to 2.4ghz, if you feel that its too warm.. then i would suggest you change to aftermarket heatsinks.. which can provide better cooling /or increase your cpu fan speed to compensate for the increase of the cpu temp.
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Nonono I know how to set the parameter, I just don't know how to find the correct value to set...

Har? My CPU stock is 2.66 how come if OC until too hot will bcome 2.4? Izit only when hot. After it cools back will get back 2.66ghz?

You mean there is a field named "FSB" in the BIOS that I can change to 1600? Cause I tot I read some say the actual value is divided by 4. Then the multiplier will only make the 2.66ghz out...

And got 1 ppl tell me that like this not stable cause RAM:FSB ratio not 1:1. What is that acutally?

Sorry I noob here. Plz plz plz help me... Thank you Jinaun koko icon_question.gif laugh.gif icon_question.gif laugh.gif
ciohbu
hmm..try to refer to basic overclocking info first..
inventorfam2004
QUOTE(ciohbu @ Jul 2 2008, 04:23 PM)
hmm..try to refer to basic overclocking info first..
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Yes! %This is what I am finding for! Where can I get the starting material for OC? Cause alot of thing I still blur. Please tell me..... Thx ! wub.gif
arethusa
bro, search youtube, they will show u
manutd #1 fan
just wanna help...

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=1804

beginners guide to overclock
inventorfam2004
QUOTE(arethusa @ Jul 2 2008, 04:26 PM)
bro, search youtube, they will show u
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Bro, not I don't want search U-tube. There all video. I am in company no speaker la.

My rig no speaker, so have to use SEE one... Hear one cannot...\

Got any other source? Thx?
ciohbu
hmmm..there are a lot of pinned thread on lyn overclockers united..u may refer to that
dtdw
Welcome to sleepless night. Your rig looks pretty similar to mine but jz tht i use c2d only.

But that doesnt matter as it is the same step for o'cing.

Firstly for the boot time. It does not have anything to do with Processor speed but RAM quantity. 4gb is optimum and further boot speed has to do with internal setting.

As for O'cing, Google CPU overclocking ... (Duhh) lolz. Here is a source that kick start me for that.

www.legionhardware.com

Read his article on E4400, E6400 and so on. It tells you simple step on what you should be doing in bios.
inventorfam2004
QUOTE(ciohbu @ Jul 2 2008, 04:56 PM)
hmmm..there are a lot of pinned thread on lyn overclockers united..u may refer to that
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Erm... sorry ah I really noob, not only in OC but lowyat.net oso/./.

What is a "pinned" thread? sad.gif sad.gif sad.gif


Added on July 2, 2008, 4:05 pm
QUOTE(dtdw @ Jul 2 2008, 04:56 PM)
Welcome to sleepless night. Your rig looks pretty similar to mine but jz tht i use c2d only.

But that doesnt matter as it is the same step for o'cing.

Firstly for the boot time. It does not have anything to do with Processor speed but RAM quantity. 4gb is optimum and further boot speed has to do with internal setting.

As for O'cing, Google CPU overclocking ... (Duhh) lolz. Here is a source that kick start me for that.

www.legionhardware.com

Read his article on E4400, E6400 and so on. It tells you simple step on what you should be doing in bios.
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Mind showing me your bench? CPU-Z plz...
dtdw
showing bench is pretty useless cos it only shows results. What u need is head knowledge.
inventorfam2004
QUOTE(dtdw @ Jul 2 2008, 05:19 PM)
showing bench is pretty useless cos it only shows results. What u need is head knowledge.
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Disagree...
Showing bench is not pretty useless. It proves that your head knowledge is valuable.
ciohbu
haha...but showing u the bench..u cant learn anything also..u hav to read through some website and do it ur own..then only u will learn..

i believe all the overclockers here did their homework for long time d..b4 they can oc so well
LExus65
go read kmarc's guide in our forum, there a page dedicated for Gigabyte bios for OC beginner
EricCYL
Here's the link for kmarc's guide in case you can't find it sweat.gif

The "Dual-core" vs. "Quad-core" guide

Basic guide - Overclocking a C2D or C2Q

Once you finish reading everything, you might get the idea how to OC your comp icon_rolleyes.gif
inventorfam2004
Thank You Thank YOU!!!

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But now I am facing another problem. I don't know this is normal anot. I installed Vista Ultimate and run. It was very unstable. And I when I try to "sleep", the system goes sleep and suddenlly turn on and off periodically ( no VGA output, the PSU, Fan, LED, Mobo, CPU Fan ) all turn on and off non stop until I turn off the main switch or Hard-off ( long press the power button ). I don't know how to solve this. But anyhow, vista loads succesfully everytime this occured. with no error pun.

2nd is the RAM. I installed pair of Corsair XMS2 DHX 800Mhz High Performance Ram ( the latency is 4-4-4-12 ). But in Bios, the latency shows 5-5-5-18. Is this normal? When I manually change it to 4-4-4-12, the system becomes very unstable.

3rd is the Vista load very slow. From cold boot to Vista load, all took up around 1 min. Before this my XP SP2 on P4 2.4Ghz took only 15sec. But after loading it becomes quite fast and smooth.

Please anyone if you could help. Thx! rclxms.gif icon_question.gif rclxms.gif icon_question.gif


Added on July 3, 2008, 9:48 am
QUOTE(ciohbu @ Jul 2 2008, 05:44 PM)
haha...but showing u the bench..u cant learn anything also..u hav to read through some website and do it ur own..then only u will learn..

i believe all the overclockers here did their homework for long time d..b4 they can oc so well
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Agree with you then... tongue.gif
naq_saviola
QUOTE(inventorfam2004 @ Jul 3 2008, 10:47 AM)

2nd is the RAM. I installed pair of Corsair XMS2 DHX 800Mhz High Performance Ram ( the latency is 4-4-4-12 ). But in Bios, the latency shows 5-5-5-18. Is this normal? When I manually change it to 4-4-4-12, the system becomes very unstable.

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its normal.. to manually change 4-4-4-12 , u need to increase Vram to 2.1V...
inventorfam2004
QUOTE(naq_saviola @ Jul 3 2008, 11:00 AM)
its normal.. to manually change 4-4-4-12 , u need to increase Vram to 2.1V...
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Erm... Normal V-Ram is how much? If I increase it will it burn my PC parts?

I tried before changed to 4-4-4-12 the computer refused to load Vista after BIOS. ( but I didn't change the vRam la )...

Any advice?

And my CPU temps report 52/50/48/48 on normal load ( I am in aircond room ), is this normal?
IcEMoCHa
unstable oc thats why refused to load... try increasing your VDIMM to 2.1v.. use RealTemp to read temperature of the cpu...
inventorfam2004
QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Jul 3 2008, 11:05 AM)
unstable oc thats why refused to load... try increasing your VDIMM to 2.1v.. use RealTemp to read temperature of the cpu...
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I see I see... Thank you thank you!! rclxm9.gif LYnet ppl so helpful.

Erm how bout my core temp ? it is 52/50/48/48 degree C on normal load.
dtdw
you didnt mention how much is your vcore and proc speed, it'll be hard to judge what 'normal' is.

If u didnt o'c and ur temp is already like that, it isnt safe till you get proper cooling.

and it also depends on how much tolerance you can handle. My rate is 60*C max. Anything above 60*C i will drop speed or vcore.

If u think 70*C is ok, then go ahead. But watch out for Tjunction(max temp) on your proc.
inventorfam2004
I just sent a question to the Gigabyte technical team. Hope they can tell me about the sleep wake up restart thing. Anyone got this problem?


Added on July 4, 2008, 10:22 am
QUOTE(inventorfam2004 @ Jul 3 2008, 02:24 PM)
I just sent a question to the Gigabyte technical team. Hope they can tell me about the sleep wake up restart thing. Anyone got this problem?
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Done, after updating my BIOS to latest :smile:


Added on July 4, 2008, 2:46 pmWhy no ppl come my topic one? So sian...
inventorfam2004
Why no ppl come to visit one?....

So sian lah... Heiz...
dtdw
firstly u did not try overclocking and

secondly u did not respond to my answer after telling u about the temp

thirdly u did not stay on ur own topic but bring some other issue out.

xpresside
QUOTE(inventorfam2004 @ Jul 3 2008, 10:08 AM)
I see I see... Thank you thank you!!  rclxm9.gif LYnet ppl so helpful.

Erm how bout my core temp ? it is 52/50/48/48 degree C on normal load.
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dun use coretemp, use realtemp

i have same mobo as u, using q9300. at first i like noob noob, but just play around with the bios la..wont spoil wan coz that mobo got backup bios, if any shit happens it will revert back to default. or read here
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/

for me i just read
http://www.overclock.net/intel-cpus/324846-q9300-club.html
zer0hour
Normal Vdimm is 1.8v. I'd definitely increase it to 2.1v since your Corsair DHX RAM is specced to run at that voltage.
skylineGTR
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/240001-2...ads-duals-guide

guide above also quite helpful if u want to know/learn about oc, quite easy and simple explanation, helped me a lot before thumbup.gif
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