i'm new here,i preparing to get a new pc, i wan to choose 1 of these 2 cpu
can tell me which 1 more worth for future?

depends...

by stock comparison
then Q9450 is much better... in terms of clock speed/performance & power consumptions

if OC
then Q6600 is much better.. in terms of price....

so what is there to depend?

depends what you want according to these factors - OC/non OC/ power consumption (electric bills)/price/etc

terpulang lah atas kegunaan anda....

And remember theres no such thing as buying for future. Technology expands & move further everyday. So buy what you need not what you want for the future

if you are tight on budget willing 2 sacrifice performance, then q6600 is 4 you
if you are crazy on performance without financial problems, then q9450 is 4 you

you ask yourself that ya

i think its d multiplier...
not the price...

Q6600 has a better overclocking capability

thats y i said teh multiplier dude...

Also need see what mobo....Biostar TForce 45 then FSB 600 x 5 multiplier can get 3ghz already haha no need high multiplier also can OverClock very high

then come the vcore issue...
if high multi, possible to use lower vcore..

its not so possible for a quad to hit such high fsb la....q6600 normally has a wall at 4xx fsb.....q9450 might do a lil better for the fsb wall though but still going above 500fsb will be super tough..


i tot vcore used is dependant on what clock speed u are on instead of multi?


@TS
IMO just get urself a q6600...its few hundred bucks cheaper n yet its easier for u to OC....but if u are talking bout stock speed vs stock speed.... q9450 will always win....like campsol2k said...all has to depend on what u want....

Q6600 is on 1066mhz(266mhz bus on motherboard) front side bus and Q9450 is on 1333mhz(333mhz on motherboard) by default.

You can go for Q6600 if Q9450 is out of your budget. Buy a good heatsink if you plan to overclock it. I don't think you need to change your processor for some time if you gonna play a lot of games with it. A good GPU affects the gaming performance much more than changing the processor.

I just bought the a q9450 about 3 weeks ago. This is the spec of my new PC:
(1) Intel Q9450
(2) ASUS P5Q Deluxe
(3) 4GB Kingston 667 RAM
(4) 2x 320GB WD HDD
(5) LG DVD RW
(5) Gigabyte 9600GT
(6) Zalman CNPS9500LED (HSF)
(7) CM Centurion 5 Casing


Despite the a small worry about the core temp of the first 2 cores (they are abt 57C at idle, but the last 2 cores are only at 43C at idle), q9450 is a magnificent processor. Coupled that with RAID 0, the whole system is so responsive that I just could not stop playing with it.

I know it is not a high end machine, but I am very contented (of course until I have a chance to get Nehalem).

NOTE: You can do a bit of research on core temp of q9450 on the Internet and it seems the new 45nm processors do have some temp problem.

if use low clock speed with high multi result to low vcore...

it was not high because your 9600GT makes it not high and ruined your system status if you opt 2 get 9800GTX, then it would have been a different story

Q6600. good overclockabilty.
my last proc b4 nehalem is coming.

ur heatsink din fit properly is it?? how come a quad core can reach 57C at idle??
or ur ambient temperature is hot?zalman fan shudn't be tht weak.if like dat means using stock intel HSF will get 60++C at idle???or u oc it with super high vcore?

mine is around 28-32C range for all the cores wif ambient temp 24C.


btw to TS: Q6600 and Q9450 performance difference wont be tht noticable to naked eye.although Q9450 has 12Mb of L2 cache and Q6600 has 8Mb only.really not much difference in performance coz no application can make use of 12Mb of cache yet.

Q6600 better or e8500 better?
bcoz i c the e8500 price is higher

hahaha i am also now thinking of Q6600 or Q9450 lor...but since i work in intel can get employee price..hehe but seriously, Q6600 is enough bang for the buck la...Q9450 is more towards best performance without considering the price factor...

erm....work in intel but using amd...

a lot of ppls will said duo core is good due to a lot of programs and game did not utilize all cores....
so d conclusion if dependent...
up to u in the end..

that was before i started working LOL...but back then AMD owns Intel's a$$ during the days of AMD 64 vs Intel's Prescott..too bad my MB just died so looking at a C2Q now...

then boleh kirim la proc satu...

sure wat i concern is which one can work better with GC like 4870?i mean in gaming performance, which one is better?
since e8500 is quite expensive than compare with q6600

IMHO, i will take Q6600 cuz highly OCable and for future usage and i'm using a lot of video and pictures editing...
i think Q6600 suits u if u in my field..

Wah, idle at 28C-32C and ambient temp of 24C. Where do you stay? What HSF and thermal paste are you using?

By the way, I am not too worried about the temp for the first 2 cores because when loaded by Prime95 (FFT) they only reached 67C max. The last 2 cores only hit 58-59C max.

However, I am really a bit sad because the proc is running at stock speed.

It seems to be a temp sensor problem to me, but it might be my thermal paste too (I have tried it so many times with the same result, so I don't think I am going to redo it).

guys... get the extreme edition....

Lol price is also very extreme

Well if TS knows/willing to/plan to OC then get Q6600 would be enough, but if wanna play stock then Q9450 if you have the cash. I am satisfied with mine

hmm....if u wana get, just take the e8400 is enuf already....e8500 is kinda more expensive by few more hundred bucks n u wont realise its difference with e8400 if u are planning to run those on stock speed....

and again, if u wana compare e8400 or e8500 with a q6600, i wud say q6600 is a bang for buck cos its a quad-core with decent speed n lets u do multitasking n heavy loads better... but for gaming, going for e8400 is better as the clock is higher compared to q6600 thus will reduce the bottlenecking of ur GC performance....n it is way easier to do high clocks when OCed compared to quad core...


hmm..have u tried reading those temps with software like REALTEMP?

but frankly speaking, zalman cpu cooler is not really that great in performance actually although it expensive


no point getting an extreme proc if u dont really know what it can do.... those are for hardcore OCer only

Just to let u know..
My Q9450 manage to reach 3.5GHz stock vcore on P35-DS3 and 3.6GHz on Biostar I45 (didnt try higher)

P.S: No stress test is done.!

Those temps were recorded by RealTemp 2.60 .

This is the first time I bought an after-market HSF, so I have to confess that I bought that Zalman because of its look .

I believe my HSF for my next build will be a Xigmatek or Thermal Right.

But I am curious about why the temp of my last 2 cores seem to be normal.

he will know what i mean.

If you are going to do alot of video and picture editing, you should get q9450 cause it got extra instruction set for those video and picture editing enhancment.

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Added on July 2, 2008, 1:25 pmTS, I just got my new rig. Today I will test it out and let you know the result. My specs is :

Proc - q9450 2.66Ghz - on a deepcool alpha7
Mobo - Gigabyte X48-DQ6
RAM - Corsair XMS2 800Mhz (4-4-4-12) 2*2GB
GPU - Gigabyte 9600GT 512MB
PSU - Gigabyte ODIN Pro 550W
Case - Gigabyte i-Solo 210 Black
HDD - (don't know what brang) SATAII 7200RPM 500GB

Load vista is quite slow ( 15 sec ) but runs smoothly. Have to use custom heatsink because mobo got a chipset cooler that crash the ori heatsink to unable to fit. Performance today oni know cause at night only get computer.

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Added on July 2, 2008, 1:57 pm

Dude.... get your RAM into 800Mhz la.... Somemore you din OC...

Ya, his temp too high when at idle with that zalman fan... Mind tell what thermal paste you use?

Q6600 can OC higher than Q9450...

hahahaha i have ardy planned 4 the 1066 actually its just a matter when is the right time 2 get one

will intel processor drop price in next few months?
i mean drop alot,will Q9450 drop to RM7xx-RM8xx,Q6600 drop to RM5xx?

.. lol dun scare me i am going to get a new rig...

i oso going to get a new rig,i scare price drop alot after i bougth

Thanks for replying. The 667 RAM was bought some time ago, so I have to stick with it .

As for thermal paste, I started using the thermal paste provided with the Zalman fan. Then, I bought the Cooler Master Nano (dun remember the full name). Both of them gave the same results. Wanted the Arctic Cooling, but cannot find.

You all no need to scare, cause I already

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Added on July 3, 2008, 2:00 pm

cakap = tak cakap ...

lolz, wat u mean,i don understand,haha

That means that person say " tengok kegunaan awak " is totally not contributing...

Erm,sorry TS for spamming here. Neway, here's my tips ( I got contribute see? )

--> If you will do alot of video editing and rendering, go for Q9450, no regret.
--> If you just do stuff like playing with editing software like me, ( edit non-HD picture la, composing your own song la, do some fancy flash movie la ), go Q6600 or even C2D can dy la, don't waste money. Because it wou't speed up much if you are not going to do intensive HD rendering and encoding.
--> If you plan for multi-purpose computer that is so powerful to do all, choose Q9450, the generous cache won't let you down. ( but don't use Vista Ultimate , coz it sux... )
--> If you want to play games mainly, go for C2D or at most Q6600, and add 2 radeon for xfire, then you sure won't regret.

Trust me dude, I am a all rounder, and I know what will suits your need.

i scare Q6600 will very fast outdated, den have to buy a new 1 again

Q6600 will give at least 1 year more before ppl starts to stop buying it... Unless Intel hand itchy go and lock up its multiplier, then OCers won't get it liao.

Somemore TS, now 45nm just out, and straight away 65nm batch all drop price. In fact if you check the web, you will see that the price drop has been initiated by Intel itself. This means? Not intel want to give good price to consumer, is because they are going to put more effort on their 45nm sales. Which means???

Obviously la, get the 45nm one lah...... You won't regret one. And I ran benchmarks dy, Q9450 won't be far away from the extreme 3 Ghz on most task. Q6600 ( at stock ) would be a lot different from Q9450.

Q6600 is way to go...

Which means?

Q6600 is a better ocer,you don't need a quad core 500FSB board to reach 4ghz

any low yat ppl.....is intel got price cut in next few weeks or Q3 2008?
can tell me? i'm going to buy new rig liao