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TiredDragon
Hai fellow Msian in BB server,

I urge all Msian in BB server to stay together and unite in one clan or alliance. As I play along this game since OBT, i notice there are more and more Msian in BB, just that they don't know each other, or they join their own known ingame friends' clan. I even think that Msian is more than Singaporean in BB now. As we all know, all Pinoys is building their own clan and alliance and war, if we all Msian can stay together, i'm sure with proper planning and organizing, we Msian will have a very strong clan and alliance.

Lets start with the most originate clan for Msian, the Msian Clan. Pls pm

Penkz,Kolish,Samuraikacang,Frier,Rylynn,Cloudia,GobaGoba

For Army clan, Msian clan will be happy to meet up with your representatives and maybe discuss on future direction and planning.

MALAYSIA BOLEH rclxms.gif

Fuel price please drop icon_question.gif
herrkolisch
I'm hoping that F2P will get more people in. A lot of people will consider whether or not an MMORPG would strain any of their resources. Maybe with this move more younger players would come in and join the fun. I'm also considering persuading some friends from European countries to play here (BB server hehe). They're in NA/Euro servers and might be interested playing an "official" one that doesn't need any paying to do. A long time friend of mine in Norway is playing in Perfect World (MY-English) for more than six months and might be interested in L2 as the game has traces of Norse and would be able to relate.
samurai_animator
hmmm are sure there are more more m'sian player in BB ? whistling.gif
Think again lolx
shaff
can outsider play l2 sea with no lag around consider they need to use proxy ? tongue.gif
masrul
@Samurai
He doesnt mean more than aria la lol.. Yes aria certainly has more msian than BB, thats obvious.. but we appreciate what we have that y we need to unite to make a diff..

@Shaf
Yes its really hard to play outside from this 3 country even thay use proxy.. coz free proxy really hard to find for MY/PH/SG.. if got its really fast to change..
herrkolisch
Yes they can Shaff.

Edit: this is not about more malaysian players in which server samurai animator.
samurai_animator
lolx ok ok
TiredDragon
My Point is :

many Msian in Aria = but seperated into diff clan with diff aim and goals, as we can see in the official forum and so many castle being occupied except the 2 capital.
Not many Msian in BB = but all stay together in one clan or alliance, with same aim and goal, surely all pinoy will notice our clan. Perhaps getting one castle or Fortress.

Thats the main objective as it says of itself as the topic name = Re-Unite all Msian in BB.
Now many msian still with diff clan and all dont know each other. Hope they will see this post and contact us ingame. rclxms.gif

Diran Hans
QUOTE(Mephistopheles @ Jun 24 2008, 06:36 PM)
I don't recall saying that Cadmus is gonna be F2P

We'll be releasing a new, different server for the F2P concept.

So you'll have Aria, Blackbird, and Cadmus P2P.


there will be no f2p server ... this i quote from official l2 forum mod
shaff
can we believe them ? before they say no bot, no change server rate. but ....
Mr_Hulk
QUOTE(shaff @ Jun 28 2008, 11:08 AM)
can we believe them ? before they say no bot, no change server rate. but ....
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Can we prevent botting by using Handcuff like Rohan? If yes, maybe NCsoft could put this feature in Gracia, the next expansion.
shaff
that is too good to be in next expension tongue.gif
samuraikacang
QUOTE(Mr_Hulk @ Jun 28 2008, 11:59 AM)
Can we prevent botting by using Handcuff like Rohan? If yes, maybe NCsoft could put this feature in Gracia, the next expansion.
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that handcuff would be a near history case coz somebody already developing something to enter the captcha code automatically.

but captcha would be a bit difficult but nothing is impossible to a programmer hehe.
TiredDragon
Please stick to the main title of this post , which is Reunite Msian for BB server.

Alot of changes since this post created.

Changes in game :

New Head GM Gilrain is employed by AMDG, lets hope he can solve our problem and bring back this game.
New server Cadmus is on the way, but will not be F2P.
7 days unlimited trial for new account.
3x is on the way this weekend , as schedule can be seen in official forum. 5 mins of maintenance time is needed.
Rumours GM is catching botters, direct impact is mats and gears will be more expensive. (Inflasion)

Changes in BB politics :

Camarada no more Einherjars alliance. This could be significance for players in BB.
More and more clan is rising up due to 2x, bots and RMT. Aspect more competitive in castle and Fortress siege.

Hope more and more Msian will join us in this server.

Sri
y not all of u come to aria ler.. or perhaps aria n bb should merge...
i dunno y they openin cadmus btw.. like both server are soooooooo full... >.<
TiredDragon
I will not prefer a merger of server. All reroll even castle or fortress owner.

I can see that many Singaporean is united under one clan in BB. But why not Msian?? I'm pretty sure Msian has more population in BB, we can unite under one clan or alliance. Heard they are organizing a dinner @ Singapore rclxm9.gif RMT is ruining the market and those Singaporean can exploit the exchange rate to buy best gears at cheaper price.

Something big is going on in BB and about [MALAYSIAN] clan, soon to have an alliance. This is the best time to gather our men and fight for glory, fight for pride.
Mr_Hulk
You should put one person in every village and town, and they will shout like the farmer selling adena. But your message is to shout about uniting all Malaysian under one banner. laugh.gif
TiredDragon
QUOTE(Mr_Hulk @ Jul 2 2008, 10:31 AM)
You should put one person in every village and town, and they will shout like the farmer selling adena. But your message is to shout about uniting all Malaysian under one banner. laugh.gif
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Mr Hulk , Msian clan dont want to be banned and wont do such thing to bring down our reputation in BB. We need sincere new members and fight for the same cause. Enjoy and get the excitement our of the game rclxms.gif

I do know alot of high level Msian in BB, just that i wish them to join us by their own heart and willingness. biggrin.gif
Sri
ermm wish i can bring my char ther for a week or two to test the server
shaff
its me or ppl in this forum that actively comment is around +-10 ppl ? too many carebears eh ?
TiredDragon
quote=Sri,Jul 2 2008, 02:34 PM]ermm wish i can bring my char ther for a week or two to test the server
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Sri, you are most welcome to reroll in BB server. Now 2x and 3x @ weekend. I'm sure shld be fast.
Server, gameplay, crit error, <-- i think same for Aria and BB. Only thing is BB more castle to be taken. Only 2 big alliance versus each others. All clan is peaceful. Not much activities except RB and grinding. Only the 2 big alliance , Einherjars and WarMongrels fighting each others.

Malaysian clan is looking forward for expansion and to make some noice in BB. If not, BB will be very boring after Einherjars dominate all castle siege and wars. Even they themselves feel bored and want to get new life notworthy.gif

Its time for new clan or alliance to rise and why not Malaysian?


Added on July 3, 2008, 9:14 am
QUOTE(TiredDragon @ Jul 1 2008, 09:53 PM)
Please stick to the main title of this post , which is Reunite Msian for BB server.

Alot of changes since this post created.

Changes in game :

New Head GM Gilrain is employed by AMDG, lets hope he can solve our problem and bring back this game.
New server Cadmus is on the way, but will not be F2P.
7 days unlimited trial for new account.
3x is on the way this weekend , as schedule can be seen in official forum. 5 mins of maintenance time is needed.
Rumours GM is catching botters, direct impact is mats and gears will be more expensive. (Inflasion)

Changes in BB politics :

Camarada no more Einherjars alliance. This could be significance for players in BB.
More and more clan is rising up due to 2x, bots and RMT. Aspect more competitive in castle and Fortress siege.

Hope more and more Msian will join us in this server.
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Latest Updates,

Einherjars Alliance just dissolve ytd nite. Means there will be no more Einherjars in BB, hence the war ended.
Time for other clan to rise and get some castles b4 they come back. Looking forward to this weekend's siege, will be very interesting. drool.gif
Zelmel
How u all get the news? Where to read? I'm new to l2, from sibu sarawak. Now had one character in aria. Maybe i can consider joining in BB. But due to work and life, i might not the most active member.
TiredDragon
QUOTE(Zelmel @ Jul 8 2008, 04:15 PM)
How u all get the news? Where to read? I'm new to l2, from sibu sarawak. Now had one character in aria.  Maybe i can consider joining in BB. But due to work and life, i might not the most active member.
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I am also working, but just online everyday will be good enough.

I know all that because I was involved rclxm9.gif

Last week siege is very interesting. Even einherjars alliance broken, MAD and Camarada still able to prevent WarMongrel from taking Oren on Saturday.
For revenge, WarMongrel gather all their forces to pay back at Giran on Sunday, which is holding by Camarada. But still the old alliance successfully prevent the WM from taking their castle.

@ Zelmel

Welcome you to BB server! notworthy.gif
herrkolisch
More drama here. Something happened in last sunday's subclass quest raid. It was supposed to be the last boss but a majority of Camarada decided to go back down to ressurects dead friends (i suspect bots) some TOI stairs below. I heard they "lagged and die". Because of the language barrier I found myself being among the Camarada members fighting past the monsters and ressurecting them shakehead.gif . By the time Camarada made their way back up most of the MAD members were uh "MAD" and left. The ones that decided to push their luck (many from different clans) either died or had to BSOE. The raids were supposed to patch up things between the two but instead the bitterness grew. I can only say as much as I saw and what a Camarada translated to me. To them their friends mattered a lot. Both hold different views... I wonder if WM could take advantage of this.
Zelmel
Ok. Friends, i'll start new character in BB, see u all after i lvling enough to travel with u all rclxms.gif
Zelmel
Want to know, everytime after RB, the boss will gone forever? Or can kill amany time? What is MRT and BSOE? ^^ blush.gif
samuraikacang
QUOTE(Zelmel @ Jul 15 2008, 12:01 PM)
Want to know, everytime after RB, the boss will gone forever? Or can kill amany time? What is MRT and BSOE? ^^ blush.gif
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MRT = Monster Race Track
BSOE = Blessed Scroll of Escape

RB will spawn again
frey
i'm just curious why r u guys so excited to gather all malaysians to unite =/ but dont get me wrong, its not that i dont agree with this.. just ermm why is this a big issue? maybe they met friends which they feel much more closer than their fellow malaysians friends and that they cant leave their clan cuz of the close bond they made.
well wht im saying is to divide ourself with other nations will create a gap with other races and there might be some saying like "oh malaysians are like this.. singaporians are like that.." =/

but well.. its just a thought and im still in happy.gif since im already in Malaysian clan and it is formally my first clan and thus my first family in lineage 2. oh and merging with other malaysian clan is i think acceptible since kolisch explained the situation to me =)


-1 more thing.. it's FREIR not FRIER.. sounds like FRIED ler like that sleep.gif"
TiredDragon
QUOTE(frey @ Jul 23 2008, 07:22 AM)
i'm just curious why r u guys so excited to gather all malaysians to unite =/ but dont get me wrong, its not that i dont agree with this.. just ermm why is this a big issue? maybe they met friends which they feel much more closer than their fellow malaysians friends and that they cant leave their clan cuz of the close bond they made.
well wht im saying is to divide ourself with other nations will create a gap with other races and there might be some saying like "oh malaysians are like this.. singaporians are like that.." =/

but well.. its just a thought and im still in happy.gif since im already in Malaysian clan and it is formally my first clan and thus my first family in lineage 2. oh and merging with other malaysian clan is i think acceptible since kolisch explained the situation to me =)
-1 more thing.. it's FREIR not FRIER.. sounds like FRIED ler like that sleep.gif"
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Let me explain about this issues since i started it. (I see you b4 frey, u with samurai at the event. we got 2nd remember? )

Actually I dont have the intention to ignore other nation's player. Just that I think there are many players there in the server which is scattered around other clan. Since your clan name is Msian, why not try get all Msian unite under one roof?

Another point is, when Msian or even Singaporean join other so called big clan in BB server they will suffer language difference. Yea, maybe u can tell them that you only understand english, but in the clan chat, they still use tagalog. In the end, you dont understand a thing. This also doesnt mean to ask you to leave your current clan. If happy, shld stay there as long as possible. This post aim for those no clan, or want to have a change.

And to all those dono my clan, formerly we are known as Msian Barbarians, founder Lolipop also Msian. And this clan is once a big clan who actively join siege and war. But after the fall of divinity, the alliance become inactive. So we also welcome all Msian to come in our clan.

As for now, we are still small clan and enjoy our friendship very well. rclxms.gif
Noyze
and wat about malaysians who adamantly speak only bahasa? You think all singaporeans understand BM?
samuraikacang
singaporeans doesnt understand BM? erk doesnt the national song majulah singapura in BM huhuhu
Noyze
QUOTE(samuraikacang @ Jul 23 2008, 02:45 PM)
singaporeans doesnt understand BM? erk doesnt the national song majulah singapura in BM huhuhu
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dude natioinal song in BM doesnt mean they understand BM. lolx trust me I studied in Sg for a few years lolx even my malay friend's BM worst than mine! lolx and my bm SUX BAD lolx. besides SG plp during their independance day all cabut lari from Sg to come to Malaysia lolx. so go figure how patriotic they are lolx


Anyways, IF i join BB server think i go cr8 Bangla clan heheheh IN honor of all the bangla's that serve us teh tarik all these years hahaha should be interesting? lolx
TiredDragon
QUOTE(Noyze @ Jul 23 2008, 04:10 PM)
dude natioinal song in BM doesnt mean they understand BM. lolx trust me I studied in Sg for a few years lolx even my malay friend's BM worst than mine! lolx and my bm SUX BAD lolx.  besides SG plp during their independance day all cabut lari from Sg to come to Malaysia lolx. so go figure how patriotic they are lolx
Anyways, IF i join BB server think i go cr8 Bangla clan heheheh IN honor of all the bangla's that serve us teh tarik all these years hahaha should be interesting? lolx
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Lol, maybe some Singaporean wont understand BM, but i think at least the simple one they will understand. Btw the national Language of Singapore is Bahasa Melayu. Only that they use English as their formal language.

Btw, all clan except Pinoy clan will use English to communicate. rclxms.gif
frey
TiredDragon: Oh so you are DDragon? yes I still remember you.. that small guy right? Hehe.. I could never forget that tango dance we had to do blush.gif.
I saw you open vending in aden with a msg recruiting Barbarian something~ hehe.
So you are saying that us the Malaysian Clan should merge with your clan? But we are already approached by Impera unsure.gif so which one now kolisch? hmm.gif
I guess I dont mind as long as we can still have our Malaysian family in whatever clan we are about to join.

About the merging issue, yes I get it now. If to get all malaysians together under one roof is the main purpose ofcourse that's nice happy.gif . It is true that sometimes I do get frustrated being in a clan that actively chat in tagalog. I love to make noise in the clan chatroom but if most of the words coming out in tagalog, i'm not a noise maker anymore mellow.gif and somehow i agree that it is not fun being in a clan full of tagalog, i have one character in Anarchy and even it is the highest level among my other two characters, i find that it is the less character i play.. cuz i am not able to see my malaysian clan chatroom anymore.. instead it's either silent or full of tagalog wacko.gif

By the way I have a question.. in Malaysians Clan we have some pinoy members, so if all of us, malaysians are going to merge are we gonna expell them? awts... sad.gif

One more thing, since I already see the purpose of this merging, I'd like to start to discuss about the idea about how to get all malaysians in one group. there's one point up there that I think is quite reasonable.. to shout out at each town.. ofcourse by not using that shout bot sleep.gif. Instead of making a Buy/Sell macro why not add along an invitation macro? Shouting "inviting all malaysians into a new Malaysia clan~!".

Oh my.. there's another sweat.gif
when we finally have good responds by other fellow malaysians, what will the new malaysian clan would be? I suggest we remain the word malaysia in whatever name it's going to be.


Ok I'm done icon_rolleyes.gif
herrkolisch
Malaysian Clan not going to merge with Impera. End of story.

By the way, yes, most Malaysian Clans speak English in the clan chat, at least in Blackbird Server. Even if we have only a handful of pinoys in our clan, we rarely (unless in cases where we have to make a point) speak any Mandarin, Malay, Hindi, Tamil, German etc.
TiredDragon
QUOTE(frey @ Jul 23 2008, 08:28 PM)
TiredDragon: Oh so you are DDragon? yes I still remember you.. that small guy right? Hehe.. I could never forget that tango dance we had to do blush.gif.
I saw you open vending in aden with a msg recruiting Barbarian something~ hehe.
So you are saying that us the Malaysian Clan should merge with your clan? But we are already approached by Impera unsure.gif so which one now kolischhmm.gif
I guess I dont mind as long as we can still have our Malaysian family in whatever clan we are about to join.

About the merging issue, yes I get it now. If to get all malaysians together under one roof is the main purpose ofcourse that's nice happy.gif . It is true that sometimes I do get frustrated being in a clan that actively chat in tagalog. I love to make noise in the clan chatroom but if most of the words coming out in tagalog, i'm not a noise maker anymore mellow.gif and somehow i agree that it is not fun being in a clan full of tagalog, i have one character in Anarchy and even it is the highest level among my other two characters, i find that it is the less character i play.. cuz i am not able to see my malaysian clan chatroom anymore.. instead it's either silent or full of tagalog wacko.gif

By the way I have a question.. in Malaysians Clan we have some pinoy members, so if all of us, malaysians are going to merge are we gonna expell them? awts...  sad.gif

One more thing, since I already see the purpose of this merging, I'd like to start to discuss about the idea about how to get all malaysians in one group. there's one point up there that I think is quite reasonable.. to shout out at each town.. ofcourse by not using that shout bot sleep.gif. Instead of making a Buy/Sell macro why not add along an invitation macro? Shouting "inviting all malaysians into a new Malaysia clan~!".

Oh my..  there's another sweat.gif
when we finally have good responds by other fellow malaysians, what will the new malaysian clan would be? I suggest we remain the word malaysia in whatever name it's going to be.
Ok I'm done  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Small guy lol. I think im the elder among the two of us tongue.gif

i think i talk about combining msian, but not kicking Pinoy cool2.gif

Because we have to know that L2 is SEA and we need Pinoy for clan to grow. Like what I can see during my stay at Msian clan, those pinoy is very co operative,
nice and friendly. Like Cutie, Du0, and others.

About alliance, i think Msian clan will have own planning. Your CL will discuss and make decision with you all. No worries rclxm9.gif
samuraikacang
QUOTE(TiredDragon @ Jul 23 2008, 11:53 PM)
Small guy lol. I think im the elder among the two of us  tongue.gif

i think i talk about combining msian, but not kicking Pinoy  cool2.gif

Because we have to know that L2 is SEA and we need Pinoy for clan to grow. Like what I can see during my stay at Msian clan, those pinoy is very co operative,
nice and friendly. Like Cutie, Du0, and others.

About alliance, i think Msian clan will have own planning. Your CL will discuss and make decision with you all. No worries  rclxm9.gif
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Freir is actually scared to use the 'older' guy among u two hehe. Freir is a fragile boy. forgive him

anyway, its a secret la Freir about the merge, now you already spill the beans on the public. vmad.gif

oh good no merge.

and btw, we speak mostly in english in our clan even between malaysian. i usually talk malay with anyone else on general chat but clan chat would be in english since we have member who dont speak malay. and sometimes we talk a bit tagalog and spanish and maybe if we can we might talk swahilis.
herrkolisch
Actually, Impera offer to us was one of the best things that has ever happened to us. They were offering the security of a big clan, and everyone in Blackbird has to admit Sangramor is one of the best CLs around. Their organization and attitude also dwarfs clans of similar size; it's no wonder a couple of clans accepted their offer of a merge. I see Impera being one of the clans that will be making waves soon.

But because of that kind offer, I found out that we all really love being in Malaysian Clan. The members said that they would follow if I were to call it; still when I asked them to be honest they really liked where we are and where we are heading. Lately we've been doing a lot of things together too. I think they're, like you said yourself, too emotionally attached to the clan -- we're going to bring up the house we built together. It's very special too that the pinoys and pinays in our clan (I'll list them here because they're special: du0, cutielyn, draggo, ravenICE, edge29, zada) feel like they're at home too.

To be honest I would have accepted the merge wholly because it would have been very beneficial to everyone. But I think maybe it's not worth destroying such a close knit community, as small as we are, for that. I think by accepting it I would have betrayed all of you! biggrin.gif
TiredDragon
QUOTE(herrkolisch @ Jul 25 2008, 11:08 AM)
Actually, Impera offer to us was one of the best things that has ever happened to us. They were offering the security of a big clan, and everyone in Blackbird has to admit Sangramor is one of the best CLs around. Their organization and attitude also dwarfs clans of similar size; it's no wonder a couple of clans accepted their offer of a merge. I see Impera being one of the clans that will be making waves soon.

But because of that kind offer, I found out that we all really love being in Malaysian Clan. The members said that they would follow if I were to call it; still when I asked them to be honest they really liked where we are and where we are heading. Lately we've been doing a lot of things together too. I think they're, like you said yourself, too emotionally attached to the clan -- we're going to bring up the house we built together. It's very special too that the pinoys and pinays in our clan (I'll list them here because they're special: du0, cutielyn, draggo, ravenICE, edge29, zada) feel like they're at home too.

To be honest I would have accepted the merge wholly because it would have been very beneficial to everyone. But I think maybe it's not worth destroying such a close knit community, as small as we are, for that. I think by accepting it I would have betrayed all of you!  biggrin.gif
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Agree rclxms.gif

Not easy to make decision as a CL. Whether to merge , alliance or informal ally, very much depends on the over clan's direction and long term planning. If current situation is comfortable, no changes will be the best.

Lately alot of changes in politics of BB. The drastic move of DB, although they still call themselves neutral, but is already alliance with WarMongrels. I really doubt how long they can stay neutral. But I'm sure their CL will find a way to do it.

And the consequences of the alliance, SB clan start fading. But to be honest, after reading on the post in forum, If I'm the CL of SB, I will dig a hole and put my head in it biggrin.gif

So lets just wait and see as I predict more changes in near future in BB.
Btw, the politics just keep me in this game. Don't you think so? hmm.gif



shaff
sangramor is very good leader, top notch even in eve online before. bow to him tongue.gif
masrul
I have to admit im one of those who against the merging thing sad.gif ..

Impera was one of those big and active clan in BB... i cant deny the beneficial we might received by merging with them.. RB, sieges u name it i would agree they have the strength to do it...

But for me, i love what we have now wink.gif .. The ppl that we have and the activities that we've done together rolleyes.gif ... I joined msian clan since it was lvl3, and only 20+ clan member... we raise it together till it lvl5 as it is now and many new good member.. Its just not fair to left that behind and joined a clan that already at the top.. i mean, we lose the experience to raise it with our own capability flex.gif ..

I think all of us still happy to be in the clan and doest really mind about what we are lack of now.. But several of those who have high ambitions in a short time already left to join other bigger and organize clan shocking.gif ..

Whatever it is i think we should continue what we've start, i believe we still have the chance to be like them.. maybe not now, but the time might come eventually with a good plan and luck that we can recruit more good and trustworthy member to the clan cool2.gif ... If it happen to be otherwise let just hope for the best that we can still be brothers & sisters that will raise & fall together cry.gif ... hehe...

Whatever i said here is just my personal opinion and not to against anyone laugh.gif .. Even I've said so, i will still stand with whatever decisions made by the clan nod.gif ..

P/s : my streamyx down since yesterday >.< .... i dont know how long it would take to recover so i can log in again...
frey
QUOTE(herrkolisch @ Jul 25 2008, 10:08 AM)
Actually, Impera offer to us was one of the best things that has ever happened to us. They were offering the security of a big clan, and everyone in Blackbird has to admit Sangramor is one of the best CLs around. Their organization and attitude also dwarfs clans of similar size; it's no wonder a couple of clans accepted their offer of a merge. I see Impera being one of the clans that will be making waves soon.

But because of that kind offer, I found out that we all really love being in Malaysian Clan. The members said that they would follow if I were to call it; still when I asked them to be honest they really liked where we are and where we are heading. Lately we've been doing a lot of things together too. I think they're, like you said yourself, too emotionally attached to the clan -- we're going to bring up the house we built together. It's very special too that the pinoys and pinays in our clan (I'll list them here because they're special: du0, cutielyn, draggo, ravenICE, edge29, zada) feel like they're at home too.

To be honest I would have accepted the merge wholly because it would have been very beneficial to everyone. But I think maybe it's not worth destroying such a close knit community, as small as we are, for that. I think by accepting it I would have betrayed all of you!  biggrin.gif
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koli and penkz are right... *wipe tears* tsk tsk tsk..
i'm so touched cry.gif
Zelmel
QUOTE(frey @ Jul 25 2008, 03:48 PM)
koli and penkz are right... *wipe tears* tsk tsk tsk..
i'm so touched  cry.gif
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I'm new member of the clan, new player in L2, i love the clan. I agreed with koli and penkz. "Zelmel" home is in this clan. smile.gif
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