aspire2oo6
Jun 25 2008, 11:23 PM
IS this ipod good? compare to other mp3 players out in the market.
The only mp3 i tested is good is SONY mp3 player i want clarity and bass.
Does Ipod nano 4gb 3rd gen provide tat? or any suggestion of a good 1?
The sony 1 battery life can last 2 weeks without recharging. NEED HELP FROM THE SIFU SIFU OUT THERE
http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/gallery/index2.htmlI wan sound quality so is ipod nano worth it?
Peanutz
Jun 25 2008, 11:49 PM
iPod Nano can last 2 years without charging. If you don't use it.

Ok but in all seriousness, iPod has great sound quality if used with quality ear/headphones. I'm using a 2nd gen Nano and 2nd gen Shuffle, both of them has got good sound quality when I'm using it with my Sennheiser in-ear earphones.
In terms of battery life, my Nano can last 24 hours straight and Shuffle only 12.
aspire2oo6
Jun 26 2008, 12:15 AM
sigh need spend like 700-800 for it to sound good?
wat the specify model for your sennheiser in-ear earphones?
yawhong
Jun 26 2008, 07:59 AM
r u sure it can last 2 week without charging and keep playin music???
well like peanut said, sennheiser earphone is good.. cx500 and the sound is really good... maybe you can consider it as well
kwekeugene
Jun 26 2008, 10:05 AM
The iPod sound quality is not bad. If you're spending so much on headphones, you should probably invest in a amp and a lineout cable to get the full potential of the headphones.
Peanutz
Jun 26 2008, 01:00 PM
elico
Jun 26 2008, 02:25 PM
ipod nano is worth for its price, however the given headphone does not provide good bass.
i currently using my nano with a Sennheiser MX55V, it is not in ear type, but it also provide a better and clearer sound, plus improvement in bass.
if u looking for good bass and clarity, i would agree with Peanutz earphone choice, the Sennheiser CX 300, the price is around RM250-RM300+ if u buy it online in lowyat forum
aspire2oo6
Jun 26 2008, 11:22 PM
@ elico so u telling me most of the mp3 audio out there its about the earphone not the player?
so means if i buy sony or any cheap brand i and get this expensive earphone then it will sound good?
elico
Jun 27 2008, 02:21 AM
no, i dont mean that mp3 player audio is fully 100% depends on the earphone
the sound is depends on both the player and the earphone in order to made the sound nicer, or to improve it
Sony have combo their player with their earphone, i used to be a cassette Walkman user, so i cant deny that their player and earphone do sound nice, but in my opinion their sound sound can still be improve by replacing the the stock (given) earphone with a better 1
and player also provide a role in the sound producing part, back then in the cassette era, i have tried the same earphone on different cassette player, and some better player like Sony produce a better sound quality than those "ayam brand" cassette player, and feature like Mega Bass can future enhance the effect of the Bass
so do the ipod, their earphone are not made as good as Sony 1, so if u have higher demand in the sound quality you will have to change the earphone, since the player itself cannot be "upgraded"
btw, in my opinion, Sony stock earphone do sound nicer than Apple stock earphone, but Sony player interface and feature arent as good as ipod, thou i like Sony's Mega Bass feature
mosai
Jun 27 2008, 10:30 PM
The main reason people buy ipod is because it is easy to use.Its firmware is great and i can assure u that u would hv a great time with an iPod.However about the sound quality, a number of factor can affect that. For example if the bit rate of the mp3 file is low than the quality won't be as good as the one with a higher bitrate.
Giving my 2 cents.
aspire2oo6
Jun 28 2008, 10:37 AM
alot people complain transferring songs into ipod quite troublesome due to requirement to use ITUNES.
IF bitrate high earphone crappy it still sound crap
cill
Jul 2 2008, 01:34 AM
1. do check at music section. you may find some products there claim to be better in audio field.
2. I personally ownned nano 3g 8b before someone stole it. It is very thin, very light. The sound is nice enough and video is good looking. Of course all this is my personal opinion. The best thing is: i can bring it in my pocket without the feeling that it is there.
3. I pair the nano with senn px100, and this pairing is MUCH better than given earbud.
4. you live with the itunes if you want ipod. And you may even find some way if you do not want to use it.
mosai
Jul 2 2008, 11:13 AM
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 28 2008, 10:37 AM)
alot people complain transferring songs into ipod quite troublesome due to requirement to use ITUNES.
IF bitrate high earphone crappy it still sound crap
Honestly, it is actually very very easy to transfer songs using iTunes, sure u get confused at first but once u start using it u would not want to use any other services.I love the part where i just put in some new songs to the Itunes and just plug in my iPod or iPhone and boom it sync automatically.
goodkarma
Jul 2 2008, 03:16 PM
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jun 25 2008, 11:23 PM)
IS this ipod good? compare to other mp3 players out in the market.
The only mp3 i tested is good is SONY mp3 player i want clarity and bass.
Does Ipod nano 4gb 3rd gen provide tat? or any suggestion of a good 1?
The sony 1 battery life can last 2 weeks without recharging. NEED HELP FROM THE SIFU SIFU OUT THERE
http://www.apple.com/ipodnano/gallery/index2.htmlI wan sound quality so is ipod nano worth it?
I use a Ipod Nano 4gb 3rd Gen. Video is very sharp, probably due to its small screen. Ipod stock earphones are satisfactory, but of course you can get better sound with $$$. Viewing videos, the battery should last around 5 hours.
aspire2oo6
Jul 2 2008, 09:47 PM
so what is ipod nano better compare to other mp3 players? What is the selling point?
elico
Jul 3 2008, 02:57 PM
i have use iTunes long before i own my ipod
seriously if u a person who has music that can reach more than 10GB or 1000+ of song, how do u expect to find the song u wanna listen every time u wanted to??
iTunes provide a good way to manage and the best is to search the things u want, the searching is way more faster than Windows own searching tools. another thing will be syncronize with ur ipod or iphone, u just have to do the 1st time setting, after that every time u plug ur ipod in it just sync automatic, no fuss.
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 2 2008, 09:47 PM)
so what is ipod nano better compare to other mp3 players? What is the selling point?
the good thing of ipod other than it fabulous click wheel and its interface will also be the search function in it, it is really easy to use and fast, and you can get to ur song u wanted to listen real fast, if u ever tried other mp3 player, when u wan to find a song it take a long time to browse for, some even need to click the button countless number of times only can get to the song u wanted.
another thing will also be the Cover Flow, i believe not much mp3 or mp4 player have these, some might not find it useful, but if u a person who are bad with album names, or with countless number of album, but u good in remembering the cover art, is a good thing for u where u can find the album u wan in a short time, just scroll thru with ur click wheel than that it.
in country like US they have their iTunes Store where u can purchase ur music, and some of the music have DRM which u can only play it on iTunes or iPod only, so for them buying iPod is like an long term investment for their favourite music.
iPod also support photo or picture file, and u can view it in ur ipod, u can bring ur photo along with u anywhere u go, imagine bringing 1000 of photo and gone to ur fren house to show them, how was it like in the conventional way??
well i not promoting ipod here

, thou i didnt "abuse" my ipod function to its fullest, but still what i said above is what i use it for, can say is my experience
aspire2oo6
Jul 3 2008, 11:38 PM
QUOTE(elico @ Jul 3 2008, 02:57 PM)
i have use iTunes long before i own my ipod
seriously if u a person who has music that can reach more than 10GB or 1000+ of song, how do u expect to find the song u wanna listen every time u wanted to??
iTunes provide a good way to manage and the best is to search the things u want, the searching is way more faster than Windows own searching tools. another thing will be syncronize with ur ipod or iphone, u just have to do the 1st time setting, after that every time u plug ur ipod in it just sync automatic, no fuss.
the good thing of ipod other than it fabulous click wheel and its interface will also be the search function in it, it is really easy to use and fast, and you can get to ur song u wanted to listen real fast, if u ever tried other mp3 player, when u wan to find a song it take a long time to browse for, some even need to click the button countless number of times only can get to the song u wanted.
another thing will also be the Cover Flow, i believe not much mp3 or mp4 player have these, some might not find it useful, but if u a person who are bad with album names, or with countless number of album, but u good in remembering the cover art, is a good thing for u where u can find the album u wan in a short time, just scroll thru with ur click wheel than that it.
in country like US they have their iTunes Store where u can purchase ur music, and some of the music have DRM which u can only play it on iTunes or iPod only, so for them buying iPod is like an long term investment for their favourite music.
iPod also support photo or picture file, and u can view it in ur ipod, u can bring ur photo along with u anywhere u go, imagine bringing 1000 of photo and gone to ur fren house to show them, how was it like in the conventional way??
well i not promoting ipod here

, thou i didnt "abuse" my ipod function to its fullest, but still what i said above is what i use it for, can say is my experience

thanks elico 1 more i am worried what about sound quality. I am a person tat prefer good bass and clarity does ipod give u that? I kinda like sony bass but dont like the interface but i prefer ipod browsing method
elico
Jul 3 2008, 11:54 PM
well i would say that Sony Bass is better
ipod sound does have enough clarity, need to upgrade the earphone or headphone if want a better bass, and it will also improve the clarity. ipod also have its own equalizer, but it does not have manual tuning for it, only pre-program mode like bass booster or treble booster and so on
Kenix L
Jul 3 2008, 11:59 PM
I fully agree with elico. I would prefer Ipod nano 3rd gen and I am having one...if you pair with good headphones, the sound quality is superb.
Beside, as mentioned by mosai, the mp3 file bit rate is another factor that determine the sound quality of your songs as well. If you have high expectation on sound quality, you can do some extra work to make sure your songs bit rate at 320bit. There are some free softwares to do this and convert in between formats. If you need them, just drop me a PM, can pass to you...
And the design of ipod nano 3rd gen is unbeatable by sony...(but again, this is personal preference)
As for the itunes, before I bought an ipod, it was also one of my conern. I was using a creative MP3 before just for the reason that my friend told me it is easier to transfer songs from computer to creative than ipod...
But then...after using ipod, i find it is a totally different story, itunes is not as tough as what people used to say. In fact, I prefer it much much more than the creative software now.
When you click on the manage songs manually option in itunes, you can actually drag and drop your songs from computer to your ipod...
elico
Jul 4 2008, 02:39 AM
well my suggestion to aspire2oo6 is that u can try out ipod at those Apple Reseller shop like Mac Studio or Machines, or Epicenter@Pavilion
i prefered Machines and Epicenter because they provide really nice pair of headphone there (Sennheiser) for you to try out, those music turn out to be much more nicer than my Altec Lansing speaker, real poison for ur ears

or if u want u can ask them can u try it with ur own choice of earphone, bring urs there, i believe they could let u do so.
well i uses foobar 2000 for convertion from lossless format like FLAC to mp3, foobar support most format and unicode too, and the best is its free.
thou i dont quite like doing convertion from lossy to lossy, but since Apple support AAC or MP3 and not others, so not much choices here.
try check out the Audiophile section in LYN for more info on Foobar 2000
cymon
Jul 4 2008, 04:10 AM
ipod still the best.
aspire2oo6
Jul 4 2008, 06:38 AM
@ Elico i been using foobar2000 for many years already love its enhancement clarity compare to other players. I am kinda a music fan so i own a z-5500D i play with 5.1 surround for movies and music.
About bitrate most of my file its usually 192kbps and above below that it sound crappy on my speaker. I never own a good mp3 player before tis is my first.
I have a curiosity so sony mp3 player have better bass and clarity because its player is design better without upgrading the earphone? but ipod in the other hand u need to upgrade to a few hundred dollar earphone just to sound good?
Not really logic there
so is it beause the player sux or earphone sux?
kc26
Jul 6 2008, 01:22 PM
Sorry for 'tumpang" this topic.
Just a quick question..
Are all ipod nano made in China?
Found a shop (not authorized apple seller) that i wnat to buy the 4gb nano from. IT says it is assembled in china..
Just worried that it could be a fake. If is fake nano on the market?
Is so how do tell the difference?
ff8ong
Jul 6 2008, 01:43 PM
QUOTE(kc26 @ Jul 6 2008, 01:22 PM)
Sorry for 'tumpang" this topic.
Just a quick question..
Are all ipod nano made in China?
Found a shop (not authorized apple seller) that i wnat to buy the 4gb nano from. IT says it is assembled in china..
Just worried that it could be a fake. If is fake nano on the market?
Is so how do tell the difference?
Almost all Apple Ipod product are assembly in China,same to Iphone too..
Dont worry,just go to apple.com and look for the detail of the product you want
then youu will know what is the diffrent between real and fake
elico
Jul 6 2008, 01:46 PM
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 4 2008, 06:38 AM)
@ Elico i been using foobar2000 for many years already love its enhancement clarity compare to other players. I am kinda a music fan so i own a z-5500D i play with 5.1 surround for movies and music.
About bitrate most of my file its usually 192kbps and above below that it sound crappy on my speaker. I never own a good mp3 player before tis is my first.
I have a curiosity so sony mp3 player have better bass and clarity because its player is design better without upgrading the earphone? but ipod in the other hand u need to upgrade to a few hundred dollar earphone just to sound good?
Not really logic there
so is it beause the player sux or earphone sux?
well i can only give u a example here
imagine there is a Singer who sang nicely on the stage, but the sound system for the performance was lousy, ppl who are listening will sure felt that her singing was no as good as mention, by "upgrade" the system u can get a better effect out of it.
on Sony case, they have been the music industry for a long time, from Hi-Fi to Walkman to even Walkman phone, they have specialitic in making both the speaker (or earphone) and the system (or walkman), and Sony has their Mega Bass thing that have develope almost 10 years ago (i think, coz my bro old Walkman has it), u can imagine how many enhancement and improvement done since then. i dont see any reason not to say Sony has the upper hand in this field
on Apple case, Apple was always not specialise in speaker thing, listen to Apple others gadget like iMac & MacBook speaker, and u can tell the difference between a good speaker and a moderate speaker, even at those shop (reseller) they combo the Mac with a nice pair of speaker like Bose and JBL and so on.
The thing that sux here is not ipod, is the earphone provided, i have tested my ipod with my fren earphone from Sony, it sound better than the stock 1. thou i cannot say ipod own sound quality is very good, but i can say it is good enough for most sound.
QUOTE(kc26 @ Jul 6 2008, 01:22 PM)
Sorry for 'tumpang" this topic.
Just a quick question..
Are all ipod nano made in China?
Found a shop (not authorized apple seller) that i wnat to buy the 4gb nano from. IT says it is assembled in china..
Just worried that it could be a fake. If is fake nano on the market?
Is so how do tell the difference?
yupe i think ipod are assemble in China, mine is at least. if u scare of getting fake stuff just buy from the authorise reseller. just look carefully at ipod clickwheel, it only has 4 label -- Menu, Play/Pause, Forward, Backward, the center button dun have any label.
ff8ong
Jul 6 2008, 02:02 PM
If you buy beside Ipod shuffer,you should be able to use Cover flow..
elico
Jul 6 2008, 02:04 PM
QUOTE(ff8ong @ Jul 6 2008, 02:02 PM)
If you buy beside Ipod shuffer,you should be able to use Cover flow..
LOL for those fake shuffle maybe will have

ya all new generation of ipod nano, classic and touch have the cover flow
kc26
Jul 6 2008, 02:18 PM
Thnks man.
i think he is sellling original, the box and everything looks genuine.
As for the warranty..
according to apple.com. i have 90days. When do they start counting.?
How they know when you buy??
elico
Jul 6 2008, 02:23 PM
QUOTE(kc26 @ Jul 6 2008, 02:18 PM)
Thnks man.
i think he is sellling original, the box and everything looks genuine.
As for the warranty..
according to apple.com. i have 90days. When do they start counting.?
How they know when you buy??
err the 90days is the telephone service, not the warranty, the warranty is 1 year international
after u bought, when u connect to ur pc/mac the 1st time, u will need to register with Apple, they will start counting from the day u register
oh ya another thing to tell that is it real ipod is the dock connector, it shud be something like this
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kc26
Jul 6 2008, 02:39 PM
Thanks very much elico. Very helpfull tips
Now debating to buy 40 g or 80g?? hmm....
aspire2oo6
Jul 6 2008, 06:53 PM
ok decide to buy it then.
What does anyone think about tis earphone?
Crossroad Mylarone X3i?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=559881&hl=is it better compare to the earphones out there
Kenix L
Jul 6 2008, 07:45 PM
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 6 2008, 06:53 PM)
ok decide to buy it then.
What does anyone think about tis earphone?
Crossroad Mylarone X3i?
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=559881&hl=is it better compare to the earphones out there
Hi,
Oh yes....this is what was recommended to me as well by the forumers here. I was first thinking of getting sennheiser cx300, the price is RM300+, but then member here suggested this mylar x3i, the cost is like almost half of the sennheiser..on top of the sound quality
aspire2oo6
Jul 6 2008, 10:45 PM
sennheiser rm 300 i dont think its worth it spending so much money on a earphone.
RM 178 is quite reasonable for an earphone. Anyone tried this two earphone before? Can give any comment?
Kenix L
Jul 7 2008, 04:56 PM
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 6 2008, 10:45 PM)
sennheiser rm 300 i dont think its worth it spending so much money on a earphone.
RM 178 is quite reasonable for an earphone. Anyone tried this two earphone before? Can give any comment?
I think there is a discussion thread regarding crossroads mylarone in the audiophiles section...can check it out...i also learn a lot from there regarding earphones...
moniqee
Jul 7 2008, 07:42 PM
i'm using this crossroad mylar x3i...
for my ipod 30GB 5.5Gen ,
Hp Nokia 6288
Sony NWD-E025F
Sony Voice Recorder ICD-UX80
and tell u the true... it's WORTH every RM u spend on it... ^__^
in fact there's reviews stating that Mylar Crossroad x3i BEATING sennheiser cx300 HANDS DOWN~!
Kenix L
Jul 7 2008, 10:52 PM
QUOTE(moniqee @ Jul 7 2008, 07:42 PM)
i'm using this crossroad mylar x3i...
for my ipod 30GB 5.5Gen ,
Hp Nokia 6288
Sony NWD-E025F
Sony Voice Recorder ICD-UX80
and tell u the true... it's WORTH every RM u spend on it... ^__^
in fact there's reviews stating that Mylar Crossroad x3i BEATING sennheiser cx300 HANDS DOWN~!
Wow cool...

I think your words acts as a very good confident booster for us to get a Mylar x3i!
By the way...how do you find the noise cancellation? Is it as good as sennheiser?
aspire2oo6
Jul 7 2008, 11:58 PM
thinking of getting 1 too
Kenix L
Jul 8 2008, 12:19 PM
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 7 2008, 11:58 PM)
thinking of getting 1 too
The Mylar? u can look for forumer yuheng in garage sales...
moniqee
Jul 8 2008, 07:09 PM
QUOTE(Kenix L @ Jul 7 2008, 10:52 PM)
Wow cool...

I think your words acts as a very good confident booster for us to get a Mylar x3i!
By the way...how do you find the noise cancellation? Is it as good as sennheiser?
er... there's no noise cancellation... so is Sennheiser CX300... >.>
anyway... Mylar X3i is WORTH every RM u spend... BELIEVE ME~!
aspire2oo6
Jul 8 2008, 10:14 PM
i just got the ipod the original earphone really sux like hell.
Hurts my ears and broken bass broken clarity.
If i tested this @ machine and tis was the sound i wont buy it.
So lets hope if i change the earphone it really will sound tat good
moniqee
Jul 9 2008, 10:16 PM
dun worry ...
the stock earphone are like dat wan...
but once u put on the mylar crossroad x3i ...
u can just let the ipod stock earphone EAT DUST liao... ^__^ mine is already is...
elico
Jul 9 2008, 10:20 PM
QUOTE(moniqee @ Jul 9 2008, 10:16 PM)
dun worry ...
the stock earphone are like dat wan...
but once u put on the mylar crossroad x3i ...
u can just let the ipod stock earphone EAT DUST liao... ^__^ mine is already is...
mine too
Kenix L
Jul 11 2008, 12:47 PM
QUOTE(moniqee @ Jul 8 2008, 07:09 PM)
er... there's no noise cancellation... so is Sennheiser CX300... >.>
anyway... Mylar X3i is WORTH every RM u spend... BELIEVE ME~!
Oh yes, i absolutely have zero doubts in your words!

I think it is definitely the first choice for this range of budget, and I think the sennheiser one a little overpriced...maybe because they are more well known that the Mylar?
Added on July 11, 2008, 12:48 pmQUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 8 2008, 10:14 PM)
i just got the ipod the original earphone really sux like hell.
Hurts my ears and broken bass broken clarity.
If i tested this @ machine and tis was the sound i wont buy it.
So lets hope if i change the earphone it really will sound tat good
I think at Machine, they use sennheiser right, for you to test the sounds, if i am not mistaken
Yeah, the ori headphones sucks!
kc26
Jul 12 2008, 11:37 AM
oK... got mine ipod 8g blue baby yesterday.. excellent
and with my new Mylar Lbi.. the sound is awesome...
No regrets on both investments.....
aspire2oo6
Jul 12 2008, 02:02 PM
how the sound at high bass and high treble?
moniqee
Jul 12 2008, 06:38 PM
well... aspire2006
if u got any problems with ur x3i...
pls refer to yuheng / walabies
coz ur x3i has 1 year warranty...
^__^ cheers~ * yuheng & walabies are GREAT sellers... *
if ur x3i is found any problem... can still RMA it..
kc26
Jul 13 2008, 05:03 PM
QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Jul 12 2008, 02:02 PM)
how the sound at high bass and high treble?
Good. i not much of a pro music listener
Anyway tried out both Lbi and X3i..
Just thot X3i was abit too bright and clear for my liking..
and Lbi has a little more bass.. not too much though
So like LBi better so went with it. no regrets..
SilentE
Jul 14 2008, 08:13 AM
Oh yeah, sure it does. Mine sounds so clear and yes, the iPod provides sound quality which is very surely to make you happy. The only mp3 player that can be compared to iPod is Sony. But I have both, and iPod Nano slightly sounds louder.
Added on July 14, 2008, 8:15 amWell, that's just my personal experience.
aspire2oo6
Jul 14 2008, 11:18 PM
I just got mine from my friend few days ago.
I have to agree its a superb earphone at first it didnt sound good but slowly day by day i listen it keep getting better.
I am very happy with my XBI too thank you for the help guys
ennyong1985
Jul 15 2008, 11:53 AM
I have just recently join this topic but let me ask. Has anyone here tried iRiver yet? I have a Sony mp3 player, iPod Nano 2nd Gen, iPod Touch 8GB and iRiver Clix 8GB and yet all of these cant match up to iRiver. It's being sold more expensive than the iPods (which are already quite exp) but you get more quality in the whole package. Too bad I don't seem to find it here. So think bout it.
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