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blademaster
How do I do them? Or tell me how to do screams ala M.K.Heafy from Trivium.
Everdying
with great sacrifice to ur throat tongue.gif
Ah Shawn
go to youtube and search for this woman called melissa cross.she gave bands like lamb of god n trivium on hw 2 growl n all.chck out her lessons if ure intrstd.hope this helps
Ryuuga
lol@ all the giler kepala besi~
blademaster
QUOTE(Ah Shawn @ Jun 25 2008, 02:33 PM)
go to youtube and search for this woman called melissa cross.she gave bands like lamb of god n trivium on hw 2 growl n all.chck out her lessons if ure intrstd.hope this helps
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okie. Will check her out tonight


By the way, are there any pills for consumption to change my vocals towards a more raunchy or more distorted, something like Metallica's James Hetfield
Ah Shawn
QUOTE(blademaster @ Jun 25 2008, 04:04 PM)
okie. Will check her out tonight
By the way, are there any pills for consumption to change my vocals towards a more raunchy or more distorted, something like Metallica's James Hetfield
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bro,i'd seriously rekomen agianst that if there were any in d 1st place.u dn wanna do sumtin 2 urself that shdn b dat way in d 1st place.u duno d side effects that come along wit it.my 2 cents
blademaster
QUOTE(Ah Shawn @ Jun 25 2008, 04:28 PM)
bro,i'd seriously rekomen agianst that if there were any in d 1st place.u dn wanna do sumtin 2 urself that shdn b dat way in d 1st place.u duno d side effects that come along wit it.my 2 cents
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like everdying said, I'm ready to sacrifice anything rclxms.gif
lordie
good! dedication and commitment! is the key.
blademaster
QUOTE(lordie @ Jun 25 2008, 05:32 PM)
good! dedication and commitment! is the key.
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so how do I start? Start drinking petrol LOL?
freakfingers12
Lotsa water,growl from your diagphram,growl softly at first.A lot of youtube videos are available in youtube,so go find them.
Everdying
fyi.
matt heafy started screaming cos he had no choice.
after his voice developed he started screaming less.

opfish
http://www.wikihow.com/Do-Harsh-Death-Metal-Vocals

hope that helps.
SweetTooth
about that article, you shouldn't take a big breath of air for these vocals. use small amounts of air but take in frequently smile.gif

personally, i have 2 ways of growling. 1 is the brutally deep one which sounds good but tires me, the other being the overtoned one, something like randy's growl from lamb of god. i'm still working on the latter though, but i feel its harder to get than the former.

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monosyllabic
QUOTE(blademaster @ Jun 25 2008, 04:04 PM)
okie. Will check her out tonight
By the way, are there any pills for consumption to change my vocals towards a more raunchy or more distorted, something like Metallica's James Hetfield
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I think the answer to the Hetfield question is lots and lots of booze. No pills/ shortcuts.... heh heh oh and add a "yeargh" at the end of every word.
xmsa666
VEry simple all you need to do is to perform one ritualistic dance during a full moon night making sure your have rubbed your body with the blood of one virgin chicken , This must be done while keeping one finger in your bum and the other is your ear , If you have appeased the devil he will come to possess you and your voice will automatically change to the monstrous tone that you wish , hope this helped .
blademaster
Thanks for all your input guys. I'll try those went I'm back at home. Can't do them here in front all of my colleagues haha...later they'll think I'm possessed or something LOL

By the way, any local metal vocal coach around KL area?
soulfly
how does your current vocal sounds like? james blunt?
ameyati
death metal is a good music. I really enjoy it when I was young.Often listen to cannibal corpse,Carcass,Bolt Thrower etc...Nowadays is no more the same. I've changed to the extreme dangdut tongue.gif
blademaster
QUOTE(soulfly @ Jun 26 2008, 03:39 PM)
how does your current vocal sounds like? james blunt?
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LOL...but come to think about it, yeah I do sound like Blunt sweat.gif If that's the case, no more chance of being a vocalist in a death metal band? Maybe I can do high pitch screams...something like Lamb of god

QUOTE(ameyati @ Jun 26 2008, 03:44 PM)
death metal is a good music. I really enjoy it when I was young.Often listen to cannibal corpse,Carcass,Bolt Thrower etc...Nowadays is no more the same. I've changed to the extreme dangdut tongue.gif
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Maybe one day my musical taste will change to something like yours, then I'll open another thread here on how to do dangdut vocals
SweetTooth
doesnt matter what kind of voice you have, you will still be able to do it.
best example would be angela gossow from arch enemy. she's a hot chick but when she opens her mouth..
also, check out walls of jericho for a different technique
blacktrix
Or, to me, the king of the "cookie monster" sound, George "Corpsegrinder" Fisher from Cannibal Corpse.

But then came along Nathan Explosion and brutalized everyone.
Everdying
the original cookie monster vox from orbituary is the best la.

orbituary's albums had no real words, just lots of guttural vox...thats one way out from having to write lyrics tongue.gif
blacktrix
I love Corpsegrinder's Wiki picture.....

user posted image

Corpsegrinder + Dethklok = Absolutely Brutal Metal
soulfly
QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Jun 26 2008, 04:40 PM)
doesnt matter what kind of voice you have, you will still be able to do it.
best example would be angela gossow from arch enemy. she's a hot chick but when she opens her mouth..
also, check out walls of jericho for a different technique
angela wub.gif
monosyllabic
Or you could go the opposite route and do a Claudio Sanchez (google: Coheed&Cambria). Songs are epic and solid, but dude sings so high, sounds like a girl. The guys can really rock out though - check out the riffage/soloing on "Welcome Home" (the original cut, not the radio single/video).

One of my friends here were at a gig where Coheed & Cambria were opening and they were outside smoking. When they heard Coheed play, they were like "Damn, that chick sounds hot", and rushed in to see a dude with a huuuuge afro rocking out.
blademaster
QUOTE(monosyllabic @ Jun 26 2008, 09:53 PM)
Or you could go the opposite route and do a Claudio Sanchez (google: Coheed&Cambria). Songs are epic and solid, but dude sings so high, sounds like a girl. The guys can really rock out though - check out the riffage/soloing on "Welcome Home" (the original cut, not the radio single/video).

One of my friends here were at a gig where Coheed & Cambria were opening and they were outside smoking. When they heard Coheed play, they were like "Damn, that chick sounds hot", and rushed in to see a dude with a huuuuge afro rocking out.
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LOL I wanna sing death metal. Don't wanna try anything funny like that.

Been trying out the tips from youtube and all....How do I actually control my diagphram? It's like trying to control my heart beat sweat.gif

Or should I start with something milder like Hetfield of Metallica first before going into Death Metal Vocals?
Ah Shawn
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QUOTE(blademaster @ Jun 27 2008, 01:44 PM)
LOL I wanna sing death metal. Don't wanna try anything funny like that.

Been trying out the tips from youtube and all....How do I actually control my diagphram? It's like trying to control my heart beat  sweat.gif

Or should I start with something milder like Hetfield of Metallica first before going into Death Metal Vocals?
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if im nt mistaken,its sumin 2 do wit sucking ur stomch in and takin in lotsa air thru d mouth.whn u suck ur stomach in ur diagphram goes up as well.dats hw u control it.

as for hetfield's voice, his voice is naturally deep n hoarse.listen 2 nothin else matters, he doesn have 2 force himself.
but age is cathching up n he sounds like sh*t in his concerts biggrin.gif
liew90kw
or, if you have contacts overseas, ask them to find the DVD "The Zen of Screaming" and mail it to you.
Ridt_Henshin
QUOTE(liew90kw @ Jul 7 2008, 05:54 AM)
or, if you have contacts overseas, ask them to find the DVD "The Zen of Screaming" and mail it to you.
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waking the cadaever = pig squeals = lol
blademaster
lol I'm already giving up with all these trainings. The freaking problem is I can't control my diagphram. Yeah, it's that hard for me that it's like controlling my heart beat.

Now, looks like I can only do thrash metal vocals sad.gif cause that doesn't involve the diagphram.
fatboythin
I downloaded 'The Zen of Screaming' some time ago. It was just ok. Throughout the whole dvd, she never even once tells you how to scream. Its more of just tips on breathing and enunciation while screaming and all.

I started coying Alexi Laiho's vocal style (yes, i know he's not death metal), seems to be the only one i can do properly. The rest are quite hard to master. Used to be able to do Matt Heafy's growl/scream, now i don't know why i cant do it without coughing anymore. Maybe its the side-effect of smoking a pack a day. sad.gif
SweetTooth
i smoke more than a pack a day and i still do fine tongue.gif
but its true, the zen of screaming is disappointing. not once did she actually teach you how to do it, she just assumes you know how to scream already and teach you how to not screw up your vocal cords
blademaster
Hey I heard smoking helps to actually make your throat's surface coarser. Will that help?
fatboythin
I guess it did help me a bit. It kinda brings up the phlegm or something, so its more coarser. I don't know whether thats just for me though. You should consult other smokers too.
blademaster
Hey guys, I've been practising a lot recently and here's the link to my vocal recording...I do appreciate some feedback, be it good or bad smile.gif

Go here
http://www.2shared.com/file/3804706/951d83...ording__4_.html?

and scroll down then ->Save file to your PC: click here


No virus, I swear. Just an audioclip of my Death Metal Vocals biggrin.gif
apique
all metal lovers..
Everdying
trust me on this...
after doing death metal vocals, there will come a time when u wanna do clean vocals and realise ur throat is f***ed...
SweetTooth
that will only happen if you do it for a long time or your technique is bad.
your voice will heal over time too.
blademaster
Now I kinda get the hang out of it..after lots of practice but I need somebody to comment about it... nobody's commenting about my sample above ^
huhu
batuapi
QUOTE(blademaster @ Aug 30 2008, 08:24 AM)
Now I kinda get the hang out of it..after lots of practice but I need somebody to comment about it... nobody's commenting about my sample above ^
huhu
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I'll give you my comment.

Death Metal is not music.

Learn to sing real songs.
blademaster
QUOTE(batuapi @ Aug 30 2008, 01:51 PM)
I'll give you my comment.

Death Metal is not music.

Learn to sing real songs.
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yeah...like MCR and backstreet boys and Elton John.

No offense but I'm not ghey. Thanks
little ice
QUOTE(blademaster @ Aug 30 2008, 08:24 AM)
Now I kinda get the hang out of it..after lots of practice but I need somebody to comment about it... nobody's commenting about my sample above ^
huhu
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ok, i'll give some comment. i do listen to some death metal and i find those which are well produced are quite nice to listen.

your sample has a few things to consider:

1. naturally, anything screaming goes into phone will result death metal.

2. with just vocal it'll be like some insane guy screaming instead of sounding like a death metal.


so...get a decent mic and soundcard to record a higher quality sample, and laydown guitars/drums/bass thing.

music is like a picture, no point seeing just single element on the picture, you must see the picture as a whole.


blademaster
QUOTE(little ice @ Aug 30 2008, 03:14 PM)
ok, i'll give some comment. i do listen to some death metal and i find those which are well produced are quite nice to listen.

your sample has a few things to consider:

1. naturally, anything screaming goes into phone will result death metal.

2. with just vocal it'll be like some insane guy screaming instead of sounding like a death metal.
so...get a decent mic and soundcard to record a higher quality sample, and laydown guitars/drums/bass thing.

music is like a picture, no point seeing just single element on the picture, you must see the picture as a whole.
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yea...I do agree with you. So before I get a mic or something (which is quite unlikely, only after I get my 70's LP biggrin.gif) I'll keep practising. Each time I do this, my stomach feels tired, like internally. Don't know how to describe it though
Mike3300
No one mention about the diaphragm breathing technique? That's where the raspy sounds come out.
batuapi
QUOTE(blademaster @ Aug 30 2008, 03:05 PM)
yeah...like MCR and backstreet boys and Elton John.

No offense but I'm not ghey. Thanks
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No offense, but trying to sound like cookie monster is GHEY!

Sesame Street is for kids.

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blademaster
QUOTE(batuapi @ Aug 30 2008, 03:42 PM)
No offense, but trying to sound like cookie monster is GHEY!

Sesame Street is for kids.

rolleyes.gif
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why so? please explain
batuapi
QUOTE(blademaster @ Aug 30 2008, 03:48 PM)
why so? please explain
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blademaster
oh that's educational and very emotionally disturbing for me. I don't want to lsiten to death metal music anymore. No more!!!






































Really! So peeps, can help me to sing like Robbie Willaims or Elton John or any ghey dude??? Pleaseeeeee
SweetTooth
there are 2 ways that i use, one by lowering my larynx(much more tiring but produces a deeper but somewhat weaker growl) and by raising the larynx which i am practicing now. raising it does less damage to your vocal cords according to mel cross, but its harder to get a deep growl with it. its better for metalcore-ish screams but im still working on it thumbup.gif
blademaster
QUOTE(SweetTooth @ Aug 30 2008, 04:12 PM)
there are 2 ways that i use, one by lowering my larynx(much more tiring but produces a deeper but somewhat weaker growl) and by raising the larynx which i am practicing now. raising it does less damage to your vocal cords according to mel cross, but its harder to get a deep growl with it. its better for metalcore-ish screams but im still working on it thumbup.gif
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wow...I can't control my larynx. You meant Larynx by the upper portion of your throat?
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