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Real Madrid Club de Fútbol


About the Club

Real Madrid CF is a Spanish sports club best known for its football team that is considered the most successful in the world. This has even been given official backing as the club was named "The Best Club of the 20th Century" by FIFA in 2000. The team plays in their legendary all-white strip, inspired by the English club Corinthians FC, which is the origin of their nickname Los Merengues (after the white dessert meringue). In its history Real Madrid have won 31 Spanish league titles, 9 European Cups and 17 Spanish Cups.

The Emblem
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The crown in the logo signifies the Royal title that was given by King Alfonso XXIII in 1920. It was removed in 1930 when the republic took control of Spain and all monarchy symbols were outlawed. The purple band represents the region of Castilla. After the civil war the crown was reinstated and the colors updated to give the logo a more contemporary look. The logo was then re-updated to the current one for the new millenium.

The Stadium

Real Madrid play their homes games at the Santiago Bernabéu Stadium in Madrid. Work on the grounds started on October 27, 1944. Originally called Estadio Chamartín after Madrid's previous stadium, it was inaugurated in December 1947. Real Madrid officially adopted the present name, Estadio Santiago Bernabéu, on January 4, 1955 in honor of the club president Santiago Bernabéu.

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Capacity: 80,354
Length: 107 m
Width: 72 m
Surface: Grass
First match: Real Madrid vs. Os Belenenses (Portugal)
Address: Avenida de Concha Espina 1, E28036
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Squad List 2007/08

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1 Iker Casillas
2 Michel Salgado
3 Pepe
4 Sergio Ramos
5 Fabio Cannavaro
6 Mahamadou Diarra
7 Raul Gonzalez
8 Fernando Gago
9 Javier Saviola
10 Wesley Sneijder
11 Arjen Robben
12 Marcelo
13 Jordi Codina
14 Jose Maria Gutierrez
15 Royston Drenthe
16 Gabriel Heinze
17 Ruud Van Nistelrooy
18 Ruben De La Red
19 Klaas-Jan Huntelaar
20 Gonzalo Higuain
21 Christoph Metzelder
22 Miguel Torres
23 Rafael Van der Vaart
24 Javi Garcia
25 Jerzy Dudek
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Honours:

Spanish La Liga (31):
1931/32, 1932/33, 1953/54, 1954/55, 1956/57, 1957/58, 1960/61, 1961/62, 1962/63, 1963/64, 1964/65, 1966/67, 1967/68, 1968/69, 1971/72, 1974/75, 1975/76, 1977/78, 1978/79, 1979/80, 1985/86, 1986/87, 1987/88, 1988/89, 1989/90, 1994/95, 1996/97, 2000/01, 2002/03, 2006/07, 2007/08

Copa del Rey/Generalísmo (17):
1904/05, 1905/06, 1906/07, 1907/08, 1916/17, 1933/34, 1935/36, 1945/46, 1946/47, 1961/62, 1969/70, 1973/74, 1974/75, 1979/80, 1981/82, 1988/89, 1992/93

Copa de la Liga (1):
1984/85

Supercopa de España (8):
1947, 1988, 1989, 1990, 1993, 1997, 2001, 2003

Intercontinental Cup/FIFA World Club Championships (3):
1960, 1998, 2002

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (9):
1955/56, 1956/57, 1957/58, 1958/59, 1959/60, 1965/66, 1997/98, 1999/00, 2001/02

UEFA Cup (2):
1984/85, 1985/86

European Super Cup (1):
2002

Club Records:

Most consecutive wins: 15 (1960/61)
Most goals in a season: 107 (1989/90)
Most home goals in a season: 78 (1989/90)
Most points in a league season: 80 (2000/01)
Most appearances for the club: Sanchís (710)
Longest serving manager: Miguel Muñoz (1959-1974)
Player with most league titles won: Paco Gento (12)
Player with most European Cups: Paco Gento (6)
Highest scorer in a season: Hugo Sanchez, 38 (1989/90)
Most home wins in a season: 18 (1987/88)
Most consecutive away wins: 7 (1960/61)
Only team to play entire season undefeated: 1931/32
President with most league titles: Santiago Bernabéu (16)
Manager with most league titles: Miguel Muñoz (9)
Longest time undefeated at home: 8 years (121 games, from 1957 to 1965)
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History

1902-1920
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Football was introduced to Madrid by the professors and students of the Institución Libre de Enseñanza. They included several Oxbridge graduates. In 1895 they founded the club Football Sky, playing on Sunday mornings at Moncloa. In 1900 this club split into two different clubs New Foot-Ball de Madrid and Español de Madrid. The president of the latter club was Julián Palacios. In 1902 the latter club split again, resulting in the formation of Madrid FC on March 6, 1902. The first president was the Catalan Juan Padrós Rubió; the first secretary was Manuel Mendía; and the first treasurer was José de Gorostizaga. Juan Padrós Rubió would be later succeeded by his brother, Carlos Padrós.

The first field the team played in was situated between a racecourse and a bullfight arena. The first coach was the Englishman Arthur Johnson who started his work on the 22nd of March 1902. Already on the 15th of April the team played for the first time in the Spanish Cup. The team at this time trained and played under very modest conditions. Still the club collected its first trophies during 1904 and 1908 when the team won 4 Spanish Cups (Copa del Rey, the oldest football club tournament, since 1901) in a row.

The first official stadium of the club was built in 1912, situated in the O'Donnell street. It was the first stadium in Spain with its own fence. In the same year a 17-year-young striker debuted in the first team who joined the club in 1909 at only 14 years old until his death in 1978. A man who left his mark on the club like no other: Santiago Bernabeu.

The King Alfonso XIII was a regular visitor of the games and conferred the royal title Real (Spanish for Royal) on Madrid Futbol Club on the 29th of June 1920. From that time the club has been called Real Madrid.

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******Reserved*******
shenshenshen
LOL......ey u like from jungle wehh....which china village u come from?? ......why not buy star player?? they're good....its an experiment....if good in RM then good la...if not goo then we sell la ...like wat happen to cicinho....who is there oni 1 season.....wat r u complaining weh?? .....who r u to judge RM ......Arsenal is good i admit...tats only 1 season....how long can they last?? wat they win last season?? ....past 2 seasons? .......and i doubt they can even qualify for next sesason if blatter implement his quota rule.....how many english players in Arsenal?....how did RM get so rich?? who won 5 UCL in a row?? .....who is the top winners of Spanish La liga? ....china man like u shud rot in china...not here...
sOuLx
wtf with him?
why anti RM ?
they are good team anyway. win La Liga twice in a row.


Added on June 21, 2008, 10:23 pmshenshenshen. dont blame arsenal.
he may not be arsenal fan i think. just stoopid football fans.
shenshenshen
QUOTE(sOuLx @ Jun 21 2008, 10:21 PM)
wtf with him?
why anti RM ?
they are good team anyway. win La Liga twice in a row.


Added on June 21, 2008, 10:23 pmshenshenshen. dont blame arsenal.
he may not be arsenal fan i think. just stoopid  football fans.
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sorry bro...i post my post without consideration though....but cannot tahan with him la...zzzz.....well RM is my secondary club ....so wud wanna def RM here as well...
zamarano
just ignore him/her la , not even worth mentioning
kb2005
So fast, another new thread ? biggrin.gif
zeronehza
congrats ! new thread for new season soon.. viva Real Madrid.. rclxms.gif
sOuLx
anybody wants to report this guy?
maybe he has duplicate account.
MADReaLJL
QUOTE(kb2005 @ Jun 21 2008, 10:35 PM)
So fast, another new thread ? biggrin.gif
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if this is fast then how about man utd thread? and other epl club? laugh.gif laugh.gif

u dun have to wait, just report him
sprix
just ignore 'it'... hahahaha.. really unethical stoopidd noob..
Soulsareworthless
Hala Madrid! (eagerly awaiting Ronaldo's press conference) rclxms.gif
Meganova
QUOTE(Soulsareworthless @ Jun 22 2008, 06:47 PM)
Hala Madrid! (eagerly awaiting Ronaldo's press conference)  rclxms.gif
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You guys rather sacrifice Sneijder for Ronaldo? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Meganova @ Jun 22 2008, 08:35 PM)
You guys rather sacrifice Sneijder for Ronaldo?  hmm.gif
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God for the last time I seriously dunno where u get this shit from. The Sun? Yeah. Great source rolleyes.gif
Sneijder is not for sale and he doesn't want to leave the club. If there's anyone we would sell to get some cash it would be Robinho.
Meganova
Chill Verx, Robinho aint performing well at RM? Sorry didn follow La Liga much.
boxsystem
QUOTE(verx @ Jun 22 2008, 08:38 PM)
God for the last time I seriously dunno where u get this shit from. The Sun? Yeah. Great source rolleyes.gif
Sneijder is not for sale and he doesn't want to leave the club. If there's anyone we would sell to get some cash it would be Robinho.
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I'm not sure whether United wants Robinho or not. Huhu, my take is I don't want him at United. Rather have Ramos or maybe Casillas? laugh.gif One can only dream ...
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QUOTE(Meganova @ Jun 22 2008, 08:50 PM)
Chill Verx, Robinho aint performing well at RM? Sorry didn follow La Liga much.
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Robinho performed well in the 1st half of the season before his injury. The reason why we're considering selling him is because he has a high market value compared to our other players. It wouldn't make much financial sense to sell Sneijder just one year into his Madrid career when we spent 27 mil on him already.

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 22 2008, 08:53 PM)
I'm not sure whether United wants Robinho or not. Huhu, my take is I don't want him at United. Rather have Ramos or maybe Casillas?  laugh.gif One can only dream ...
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We don't have to sell to United. We can easily sell him to another club and pay full for Ronaldo. It doesn't make a diff to me. Ramos and Casillas? Haha. Good luck with that tongue.gif
miccy
QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 22 2008, 08:53 PM)
I'm not sure whether United wants Robinho or not. Huhu, my take is I don't want him at United. Rather have Ramos or maybe Casillas?  laugh.gif One can only dream ...
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Yeah, definitely one can only dream..i totally agreed with that sweat.gif

btw, new thread, new spirit, new ambition, new player brows.gif rclxms.gif cant wait for the new season

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boxsystem
QUOTE(verx @ Jun 22 2008, 09:10 PM)
Robinho performed well in the 1st half of the season before his injury. The reason why we're considering selling him is because he has a high market value compared to our other players. It wouldn't make much financial sense to sell Sneijder just one year into his Madrid career when we spent 27 mil on him already.
We don't have to sell to United. We can easily sell him to another club and pay full for Ronaldo. It doesn't make a diff to me. Ramos and Casillas? Haha. Good luck with that tongue.gif
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And that means you might have to pay around £80million for Ronaldo for the deal to go through? Hey, I would be glad if United can get around that amount of money for Ronaldo. Some even said that Ronaldo is worth around £100million? drool.gif

QUOTE(miccy @ Jun 22 2008, 09:45 PM)
Yeah, definitely one can only dream..i totally agreed with that sweat.gif

btw, new thread, new spirit, new ambition, new player  brows.gif  rclxms.gif cant wait for the new season

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What a bull from The Sun. Haha. rclxub.gif
kb2005
Ronaldo is worth around £100million ? That will be too much. I think £50-£60million is reasonable. biggrin.gif
Belphegor
mark the thread as spanish club please.
verx
QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 22 2008, 10:15 PM)
And that means you might have to pay around £80million for Ronaldo for the deal to go through? Hey, I would be glad if United can get around that amount of money for Ronaldo. Some even said that Ronaldo is worth around £100million?  drool.gif
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Those are ridiculous figures. Zidane's world record fee was only 46 million GBP. The figure I think would be ard 90 million euros which is roughly 71 million GBP. Only Man Utd fans have this fantasy idea that he is worth 100 million GBP laugh.gif
miccy
QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 22 2008, 10:15 PM)
And that means you might have to pay around £80million for Ronaldo for the deal to go through? Hey, I would be glad if United can get around that amount of money for Ronaldo. Some even said that Ronaldo is worth around £100million?  drool.gif
What a bull from The Sun. Haha.  rclxub.gif
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yes, always bull from thesun especially with this news
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1323017.ece

anyhow, £100m is a ridiculous amount u can buy one epl club from it and not to mention the whole malaysian league tongue.gif ...i dont think calderon would be stupid enough to secure the transfer with that amount doh.gif ...i've only seen 91m euros from madrid to offer united like what verx stated
boxsystem
again, one can only dream tongue.gif
miccy
QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 22 2008, 11:10 PM)
again, one can only dream tongue.gif
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nothing is impossible anyways nowadays with the reluctantness of united to accept the bid maybe £100m is somehow a reasonable price just like the zidane's case in 2001 shakehead.gif and the glazers can clear their heads off the debts tongue.gif
yein_pain
David Villa admits he would consider leaving Valencia, if the Primera Liga side agreed to sell him.
The Spaniard has become one of the most-wanted strikers in Europe following his goalscoring exploits at Euro 2008 and Chelsea, Tottenham, Real Madrid and Barcelona are all thought to be considering summer bids.
gto87
QUOTE(yein_pain @ Jun 23 2008, 01:15 AM)
David Villa admits he would consider leaving Valencia, if the Primera Liga side agreed to sell him.
The Spaniard has become one of the most-wanted strikers in Europe following his goalscoring exploits at Euro 2008 and Chelsea, Tottenham, Real Madrid and Barcelona are all thought to be considering summer bids.
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Well, I would rather have Villa than Ronaldo.. Anyway, we have to wait until the EURO ends or maybe until tonight's game whistling.gif ..
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To set the stage for Ronaldo's impending arrival here's a preview of Ronaldo. I'll get the ball rolling with some pictures courtesy of the Sun.

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Cristiano Ronaldo plays against Manchester United for Sporting


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Cristiano Ronaldo signs for United in 2003 alongside Brazilian Kleberson


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Cristiano Ronaldo makes his debut against Bolton on August 16


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Cristiano Ronaldo celebrates scoring his first goal for Manchester United


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Cristiano Ronaldo lifts his first trophy, the FA Cup, for Manchester United in 2004


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Cristiano Ronaldo lifts his first Premier League title in 2007


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Cristiano Ronaldo lifts his second Premier League title in 2008


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Cristiano Ronaldo scores his last Manchester United goal in the Champions League in 2008 (I like this caption laugh.gif )


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Cristiano Ronaldo lifts the Champions League in 2008


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Cristiano Ronaldo finally decides to leave Manchester United after Portugal crash out of Euro
shenshenshen
casillas was cool! ramos was solid against toni! well done espanyol!
matt85
Casillas !! thumbup.gif rclxm9.gif
zeronehza
QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jun 23 2008, 05:30 AM)
casillas was cool! ramos was solid against toni! well done espanyol!
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not espanyol lorrr. ESPANA should be...
espanyol is another team in la liga blush.gif
shenshenshen
LOL.....but i tot in english Spain last time was known as espanyol...anyways........hala espana!!!!!!!!!
sprix
i hope.. we can get both.. villa and CR7.. thumbup.gif and more important thing is.. hopefully all-star-team-disease wont be repeated.. sweat.gif
Meganova
IF Villa and Ronaldo does join RM, what number they're gonna wear? Both wore no.7 right now and Raul is still playing for another few more seasons. biggrin.gif
gto87
What a brilliant stunt by Casillas.. Once again he prove that he's not from this planet.. Ramos was good but he can be better.. If spain can go on slightly better than yesterday performance, I can't see why they not gonna lift the Euro Cup this time.. As I expected Villa and Torres partnership did crack a bit ( due to the Italians solid back four) .. No clear cut chance for both of them, but one can truly see that Villa done better in terms of off the ball run but his MFs failed to provide.. Silva is growing in his game, lack of accuracy but enough power which force Buffon to make several dives in both bottom corner of his post.. Last night's Italy is a team that physically strong but short of creativity(due to Pirlo's suspension IMO).. while the Spaniards was quite good in terms of creativity but lacks physical attributes which lead to several easy crush of La Roja's hope of penetration..

Anyway, I'm happy to see the penalty shootout ended in Spain's favor cause now the whole world is aware of casillas's greatness.. To beat buffon in penalty shootout and also made several heart pounding dives throughout the 120 minutes will surely opened a lot of EPL fans eyes!.. He's always there when we needed him the most! truly a hero!


QUOTE(Meganova @ Jun 23 2008, 01:24 PM)
IF Villa and Ronaldo does join RM, what number they're gonna wear? Both wore no.7 right now and Raul is still playing for another few more seasons.  biggrin.gif
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Maybe Villa go for no 9 and Ronaldo will take the no 17 as it is useless with Soldado wearing it.. whistling.gif But anyway, the logic is if Ronaldo did make into our squad than there will be no more forward signings.. Think bout this, two of the best performers + Madrid cantera heroes + remaining players in one squad.. Sounds to me we going to that same old galacticos shit again.. The player's egos will mount in the dressing room.. Surely that's not what Senor Calderon is looking for..
Soulsareworthless
QUOTE(gto87 @ Jun 23 2008, 04:10 PM)
Think bout this, two of the best performers + Madrid cantera heroes + remaining players in one squad.. Sounds to me we going to that same old galacticos shit again.. The player's egos will mount in the dressing room.. Surely that's not what Senor Calderon is looking for..
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The Galactico project didn't fail unlike Barca's current Galactico project which failed because there were too many huge egos to please. We simply had the Zidanes and Pavons problem, half the team made of superstars and the other half of nobody's. There needs to be balance which we do have now. Ronaldo will fit in quite nicely.

And we will not get Villa as there is only enough money to buy Ronaldo. We are taking a gamble with a single world class striker in RVN. Let's hope Saviola who is quickly becoming the forgotten man will step up next season.
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QUOTE(Soulsareworthless @ Jun 24 2008, 02:24 AM)
The Galactico project didn't fail unlike Barca's current Galactico project which failed because there were too many huge egos to please. We simply had the Zidanes and Pavons problem, half the team made of superstars and the other half of nobody's. There needs to be balance which we do have now. Ronaldo will fit in quite nicely.

And we will not get Villa as there is only enough money to buy Ronaldo. We are taking a gamble with a single world class striker in RVN. Let's hope Saviola who is quickly becoming the forgotten man will step up next season.
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It was a failed project imo. The only thing it succeeded was to put us on another level in terms of global recognition. Although we did win trophies for the first few years, as Fiorentino continued on with his project, the more the club deviated from its ideals and you could see the team lose its way so to speak.

We've since then returned to our traditional ways while still maintaining our global appeal so it was like a growing stage that the club had to go through. But if this Ronaldo transfer occurs it would be a very different situation compared to the galactico days. We aren't sacrificing our squad depth this time around and the team is more united than at any time during those days.
shenshenshen
dude...80 million we can buy many players.........wonder why shud we stuck with ronaldo.....( i dun mind him coming but its the amount of money tats worrying me)..............................
JuNz-V
QUOTE(shenshenshen @ Jun 24 2008, 09:02 PM)
dude...80 million we can buy many players.........wonder why shud we stuck with ronaldo.....( i dun mind him coming but its the amount of money tats worrying me)..............................
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bcoz its RM's natural attitude of "must get wat they want"
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edited.. i tot this is man utd forum.. sorry 1000x
I.D. alex
Hola fellow Madridistas . . It's been a while didn't drop by. biggrin.gif

Seems everyone in Euro 2008 fever . . tongue.gif Of course, Espana! San Casillias has done it again! rclxms.gif

Btw, how's the website goin' on? Fellow Admins (Miccy & Verx) rolleyes.gif
gto87
QUOTE(Soulsareworthless @ Jun 24 2008, 02:24 AM)
The Galactico project didn't fail unlike Barca's current Galactico project which failed because there were too many huge egos to please. We simply had the Zidanes and Pavons problem, half the team made of superstars and the other half of nobody's. There needs to be balance which we do have now. Ronaldo will fit in quite nicely.

And we will not get Villa as there is only enough money to buy Ronaldo. We are taking a gamble with a single world class striker in RVN. Let's hope Saviola who is quickly becoming the forgotten man will step up next season.
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How the hell you don't take Galacticos as a failure.. Yes we won several cups at the beginning but at that moment we're the greatest with some of the world class players together.. It was until Zidane that we are invincibles but after that it's beginning to fade away.. All those glories are the topic of yesteryear and now people will only recall madrid's name in the summer because we have the tradition of making the most shocking summer transfers..

We have a squad that have a very tight bond.. With Ronaldo introduced in the squad, the bonding will fade away when Ronaldo cast his ego spell in each and every heart of Madrid's player.. Sooner or later it'll be like the second successive self destruction plan and we Madridistas continue being frustrated with another god knows how many years of cup drought..
But on the other hand, he can help us win titles, that's for sure but that doesn't indicate that he's the only one that can land us titles.. Any other superstar also can do that, just to be left out of this topic only because lack of publicity.. Before Russia knock out Holland from the quarter finals, how many people do you think knows the name Arshavin? He's the perfect example of my explanation here.. Now everybody wish to have him in their squad..
whoopa
QUOTE(gto87 @ Jun 25 2008, 01:52 AM)
How the hell you don't take Galacticos as a failure.. Yes we won several cups at the beginning but at that moment we're the greatest with some of the world class players together.. It was until Zidane that we are invincibles but after that it's beginning to fade away.. All those glories are the topic of yesteryear and now people will only recall madrid's name in the summer because we have the tradition of making the most shocking summer transfers..

We have a squad that have a very tight bond.. With Ronaldo introduced in the squad, the bonding will fade away when Ronaldo cast his ego spell in each and every heart of Madrid's player.. Sooner or later it'll be like the second successive self destruction plan and we Madridistas continue being frustrated with another god knows how many years of cup drought..
But on the other hand, he can help us win titles, that's for sure but that doesn't indicate that he's the only one that can land us titles.. Any other superstar also can do that, just to be left out of this topic only because lack of publicity.. Before Russia knock out Holland from the quarter finals, how many people do you think knows the name Arshavin? He's the perfect example of my explanation here.. Now everybody wish to have him in their squad..
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u sound very matured and have very good points smile.gif ... must remember ronaldo is quite huge ... i as man utd also disappointed in the interview he had after the champs league ... instead of thanking god and vds saving the pens .. he was talking abt the goal he scored doh.gif ... anyways best of luck to madrid of getting him smile.gif ... hopefully can get 100mil euro .. that is like wow ... lol ...
Soulsareworthless
QUOTE(verx @ Jun 24 2008, 11:06 AM)
It was a failed project imo. The only thing it succeeded was to put us on another level in terms of global recognition. Although we did win trophies for the first few years, as Fiorentino continued on with his project, the more the club deviated from its ideals and you could see the team lose its way so to speak.
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QUOTE(gto87 @ Jun 25 2008, 01:52 AM)
How the hell you don't take Galacticos as a failure.. Yes we won several cups at the beginning but at that moment we're the greatest with some of the world class players together.. It was until Zidane that we are invincibles but after that it's beginning to fade away.. All those glories are the topic of yesteryear and now people will only recall madrid's name in the summer because we have the tradition of making the most shocking summer transfers..
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I didn't say the Galactico project isn't a failure, it is. All I'm saying is that it failed not because there were too many egos too please but because of the squad which was put together were merely a collection of individuals.

I agree with Verx that the Galactico project was a growing phase which has now brought us the top of the money league. I would hate to see three barren seasons go to waste if we end up not the most financially powerful club in the near future therefore I think we need Ronaldo to maintain our status quo.
verx
QUOTE(gto87 @ Jun 25 2008, 01:52 AM)
We have a squad that have a very tight bond.. With Ronaldo introduced in the squad, the bonding will fade away when Ronaldo cast his ego spell in each and every heart of Madrid's player.. Sooner or later it'll be like the second successive self destruction plan and we Madridistas continue being frustrated with another god knows how many years of cup drought..
But on the other hand, he can help us win titles, that's for sure but that doesn't indicate that he's the only one that can land us titles.. Any other superstar also can do that, just to be left out of this topic only because lack of publicity.. Before Russia knock out Holland from the quarter finals, how many people do you think knows the name Arshavin? He's the perfect example of my explanation here.. Now everybody wish to have him in their squad..
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I don't see why Ronaldo's ego would destroy the team as a unit. He is very professional as a player and he trains as hard as the best of them. Raul will definitely approve of his work ethic for instance. Besides all great players have big egos. There's no exception to the rule.
gto87
QUOTE(verx @ Jun 25 2008, 09:35 AM)
I don't see why Ronaldo's ego would destroy the team as a unit. He is very professional as a player and he trains as hard as the best of them. Raul will definitely approve of his work ethic for instance. Besides all great players have big egos. There's no exception to the rule.
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You don't see why? Let say all our midfielders and wingers are in top form and some of them have to sit on the bench for a long time just because we depend too much on Ronaldo, you think our dressing room will be the same like now? It's not a big if.. Things did happen to us when Figo wants his position back but Madrid decided to let Beckham play almost all the game which by the way led Figo's departure.. Another thing is Ronaldo is a very hardworker and never seems to be easily satisfied with his achievement even his development is almost down to perfection.. So he will never let his place robbed by somebody like Robben or Robinho(if he stays with us).. Some players will back those two and our management and the other half of players will back ronaldo.. So things will turn from heaven to hell sooner or later.. It's not a big "if" I'm talking about.. This is a fact that will happen to any clubs that that holds many star players..
verx
QUOTE(gto87 @ Jun 25 2008, 12:28 PM)
You don't see why? Let say all our midfielders and wingers are in top form and some of them have to sit on the bench for a long time just because we depend too much on Ronaldo, you think our dressing room will be the same like now? It's not a big if.. Things did happen to us when Figo wants his position back but Madrid decided to let Beckham play almost all the game which by the way led Figo's departure.. Another thing is Ronaldo is a very hardworker and never seems to be easily satisfied with his achievement even his development is almost down to perfection.. So he will never let his place robbed by somebody like Robben or Robinho(if he stays with us).. Some players will back those two and our management and the other half of players will back ronaldo.. So things will turn from heaven to hell sooner or later.. It's not a big "if" I'm talking about.. This is a fact that will happen to any clubs that that holds many star players..
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I know where you're coming from but the fact is even with everybody in top form we don't have many options on the right. Robinho and Robben prefer to play on the left. And Robben is injured half the time. Robinho has a more disruptive ego imo and seeing that Robben got some playing time off of him, he had a chance there to show his dissatisfaction but chose not to; although now he's saying that he wouldn't mind leaving. That's also another reason why I wouldn't mind selling Robinho and if he really was sold then I don't really see a problem with Ronaldo coming in. If Ronaldo comes and starts performing nobody is going to complain.
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