caspersky
Jun 20 2008, 10:47 AM
as above, anyone has 'secret' news when notebooks powered by AMD Puma platform will hit Malaysian market? i need to get a new laptop before the end of june but i hope i'm not the latest batch who got intel X3100...
z3171600
Jun 20 2008, 12:36 PM
What feature AMD PUMA has that set it apart from Intel?
caspersky
Jun 20 2008, 10:38 PM
A stronger integrated graphics solution and hybrid graphics capabilities.
AMD Puma
Darkmage12
Jun 20 2008, 10:47 PM
Puma claims to outperform even 8400GS pretty good integrated graphics
new in IT
Jun 20 2008, 11:47 PM
Good graphics which means u can play games in higher resolution
sniper on the roof
Jun 21 2008, 12:22 AM
Puma not launched yet ler..
You'll likely see them closer towards the last quarter. Its a pity ppl don't understand AMD much.
Integrated graphics alone faster than a Montevina + Nvidia 9300M
sukhoi37
Jun 21 2008, 12:26 AM
QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 21 2008, 12:22 AM)
Puma not launched yet ler..
You'll likely see them closer towards the last quarter.
Its a pity ppl don't understand AMD much.Integrated graphics alone faster than a Montevina + Nvidia 9300M
care to elaborate more?
sniper on the roof
Jun 21 2008, 12:32 AM
QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jun 21 2008, 12:26 AM)
care to elaborate more?

9/10 people will say don't buy AMD because it's hot, it's slow etc...
pcGeeK
Jun 21 2008, 12:41 AM
Most of my friends and a few tech guys from the local shop still stick to the old mantra... amd=gaming, intel=office work.. lol
ShadoW_ChaseR
Jun 21 2008, 01:10 AM
QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 21 2008, 12:32 AM)
9/10 people will say don't buy AMD because it's hot, it's slow etc...
but thats the fact ryte??
Spade
Jun 21 2008, 08:55 AM
QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 21 2008, 12:22 AM)
Puma not launched yet ler..
You'll likely see them closer towards the last quarter. Its a pity ppl don't understand AMD much.
Integrated graphics alone faster than a Montevina + Nvidia 9300M
Already Launched at Computex Taiwan.
sniper on the roof
Jun 21 2008, 09:03 AM
QUOTE(ShadoW_ChaseR @ Jun 21 2008, 01:10 AM)
but thats the fact ryte??

No it's not really
QUOTE(Spade @ Jun 21 2008, 08:55 AM)
Already Launched at Computex Taiwan.
Me bad.. you're right. It's already launched.
nicks
Jun 21 2008, 09:40 AM
I love to use AMD. why? its cheap and the speed is getting more better than Intel. but somehow, Intel perform well, but expensive T.T
sukhoi37
Jun 21 2008, 10:21 AM
QUOTE(sniper on the roof @ Jun 21 2008, 12:32 AM)
9/10 people will say don't buy AMD because it's hot, it's slow etc...
agree.
i'm targeting on PUMA platform for my upcoming laptop in a few months time.
hopefully it will be cheap and great in gaming world.
eq8all
Jun 26 2008, 01:05 PM
An informative interview done by CNet Asia with Patrick Moorhead, vice president of Advanced Marketing at AMD. Read more about it
here.
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In a nutshell, why should consumers choose Puma over other offerings in the market?
Moorhead: The biggest challenge in the future is going to be that once people get comfortable with video, they will want it on every device, whether it's on their BlackBerrys or iPhones. Then you have the challenge of storage and codec formats, of which there are about 16 different formats you need to convert from. People are going to be looking for an easy way to move their video content from their PC to their mobile devices, shrinking it down from a 20GB footprint to about 300MB. That is just a huge pain point for users today, and I am not even going to mention DRM (digital right management)-protected material.
3D and video are where we are heading with the Puma platform. The reason I don’t say games and video is because 3D is being used for so many other things now. We have tripled the 3D performance compared with the prior platform (Kite Refresh), which is great for games but also for new things people are downloading, such as 3D browsers (E.g. Spacetime)and Google Earth.
For high-definition video, the decoding is actually done on the chipset as opposed to the processor. The benefit is twofold. If you are decoding on the chipset, you have processor cycles available for other programs like Windows Defender, etc. As you are watching Blu-ray with the Puma system, you get full 30fps with no hiccups even if something is happening in the background, unlike with the Intel system.
The other benefit is from a battery life perspective. Historically, you cannot watch a full-HD movie on a single battery charge. But with Puma, you can. So instead of having your processor at 75 to 80 percent while decoding, it’s down to 20 percent utilization.
caspersky
Jun 26 2008, 11:55 PM
Still no sign of any AMD Puma powered notebooks available for sale. Gosh, gotta live with Centrino.
eq8all
Jun 28 2008, 04:37 PM
Google News' roundup since last day on keyword AMD Puma.
AMD "Puma" Powered Toshiba Satellite Laptops Break FreeHP Pavillion tx2500z review by Laptop MagazineSo it's HP and Toshiba out and about. Let's see if other makers can keep to their time to market schedules soon.
kapitan
Jun 28 2008, 04:59 PM
If you wanna know more about Puma, then you should dig out more about AMD 780G chipset. Basically its the same thing with the exception of probably fewer pipeline and lower clockspeed. Not sure how this would turn out to be but AMD 780G is quite awesome when you consider that it can do CrossFire when you plug in another ATI card. So if said they can do the same for laptop, then you will be seeing better performance if they decided to go one step better with an additional 3650/3450. That would spice things up for Nvidia.
LordGrimm
Jun 30 2008, 03:57 PM
QUOTE(caspersky @ Jun 26 2008, 11:55 PM)
Still no sign of any AMD Puma powered notebooks available for sale. Gosh, gotta live with Centrino.
And Centrino is just about going obsolete with Centrino 2 releasing in July (fingers crossed)
angelgemini
Jun 30 2008, 06:06 PM
and puma vs centrino? who win?
tomguy hardware state that centrino win over puma...
caspersky
Jun 30 2008, 08:42 PM
Centrino is far from being obsolete, it just isn't the latest technology.
Sib
Jun 30 2008, 09:40 PM
still there's no shops in msia selling it?
interested in it plus can connect to an external graphics sumore
sukhoi37
Jun 30 2008, 10:46 PM
QUOTE(caspersky @ Jun 30 2008, 08:42 PM)
Centrino is far from being obsolete, it just isn't the latest technology.
AFAIK Intel is going to announce Centrino 2 next month.
caspersky
Jun 30 2008, 11:23 PM
Yeah but that doesn't mean Centrino would be obsolete by then. WiMax and DDR3 memory are not mainstream yet. It would be more appropriate to judge after seeing the price tag; must be freakin' expensive.
LordGrimm
Jul 1 2008, 02:34 PM
QUOTE(caspersky @ Jun 30 2008, 11:23 PM)
Yeah but that doesn't mean Centrino would be obsolete by then. WiMax and DDR3 memory are not mainstream yet. It would be more appropriate to judge after seeing the price tag; must be freakin' expensive.
It wouldn't be obsolete straight away but it's on its way out, even if it's just branding.
After all the centrino's been around for 5 years.
Darkmage12
Jul 2 2008, 12:28 AM
QUOTE(sukhoi37 @ Jun 30 2008, 10:46 PM)
AFAIK Intel is going to announce Centrino 2 next month.

Still the IGP will get beaten with ease by Puma
haylui
Jul 2 2008, 07:18 AM
Centrino 2 is no match again AMD Puma in terms of integrated graphic. Some more, AMD Puma could use external graphic cards to boost graphic performance and detach it when no need to use. Optimize for the battery life.
LordGrimm
Jul 2 2008, 07:50 AM
QUOTE(haylui @ Jul 2 2008, 07:18 AM)
Centrino 2 is no match again AMD Puma in terms of integrated graphic. Some more, AMD Puma could use external graphic cards to boost graphic performance and detach it when no need to use. Optimize for the battery life.
Integrated graphics - meh, not sure how much it will support a gaming hobby or we still have to get a dedicated graphics card anyway.
Battery-life - yes and no, I believe AMD's CPUs consume more battery life than their Intel counterparts
To be honest, I am actually really excited by PUMA because of the ability to plug in in external graphic cards. I hope because of this we can have reasonably portable laptops with the ability to have ass-kicking graphic performance only when we need it.
At the moment, I am reserving judgment until I see more.
xKAIZERUx
Jul 2 2008, 10:07 AM
well, its not all about the processor in puma. If you just pit the processor, it is clear centrino got the edge. but puma its all about packaging. try to read at least what people had posted up there and the links.
andrekua
Jul 2 2008, 07:22 PM
QUOTE(LordGrimm @ Jul 2 2008, 07:50 AM)
Integrated graphics - meh, not sure how much it will support a gaming hobby or we still have to get a dedicated graphics card anyway.
Battery-life - yes and no, I believe AMD's CPUs consume more battery life than their Intel counterparts
To be honest, I am actually really excited by PUMA because of the ability to plug in in external graphic cards. I hope because of this we can have reasonably portable laptops with the ability to have ass-kicking graphic performance only when we need it.
At the moment, I am reserving judgment until I see more.
Haha...
Either you got it totally wrong or you use the wrong interpretation.
First of all, PUMA does allow a dedicated GPU but its not detachable. It only can be turn on or off depending on your requirement.
SO if you bought one with intergrated graphic, dont come crying there;s is no upgrade path as there has never been any upgrade path for GPU in most notebook as everyone uses their own design.
LordGrimm
Jul 2 2008, 09:23 PM
QUOTE(andrekua @ Jul 2 2008, 07:22 PM)
Haha...
Either you got it totally wrong or you use the wrong interpretation.
First of all, PUMA does allow a dedicated GPU but its not detachable. It only can be turn on or off depending on your requirement.
SO if you bought one with intergrated graphic, dont come crying there;s is no upgrade path as there has never been any upgrade path for GPU in most notebook as everyone uses their own design.
My bad - I mixed up the PUMA with ATI XGP - for some reason, I thought the PUMA had XGP capabilities.
More than aware that integrated graphic cards in general sucks dog's genitals so I am pretty sure you won't see me crying here (I presume you meant here, not "there", wherever there is)
andrekua
Jul 2 2008, 09:49 PM
Well, you are not wrong.
PUMA indeed has crossfire tech if im not mistaken. However, it still not detachable. Thats why AMD is trying to market it as a tool to conserve power/battery. AMD surely has some way to turn the dedicated GPU to idle and consume very little power when its not needed. I dont think its possible to switch between GPU and Intergrated without crossfire.
LordGrimm
Jul 3 2008, 07:19 PM
QUOTE(andrekua @ Jul 2 2008, 09:49 PM)
Well, you are not wrong.
PUMA indeed has crossfire tech if im not mistaken. However, it still not detachable. Thats why AMD is trying to market it as a tool to conserve power/battery. AMD surely has some way to turn the dedicated GPU to idle and consume very little power when its not needed. I dont think its possible to switch between GPU and Intergrated without crossfire.
to clear things up a bit - this is what I am specifically thinking about (see link below)
AMD XGP platform
daymond85
Nov 14 2008, 05:05 PM
when come so msia la ....
T T
Spade
Nov 15 2008, 12:06 PM
Its already in malaysia. Anything that come with AMD 790G chipset (3200) is Puma.
Duckies
Nov 15 2008, 02:09 PM
Yea it is said that Centrino pawns AMD.There r statistics showing centrino's performance exceeds AMD.And AMD machines easily overheat.I wonder y.Btw i am an AMD user myself.
Spade
Nov 15 2008, 02:46 PM
QUOTE(Duckies @ Nov 15 2008, 02:09 PM)
Yea it is said that Centrino pawns AMD.There r statistics showing centrino's performance exceeds AMD.And AMD machines easily overheat.I wonder y.Btw i am an AMD user myself.
I have been using many2 AMD notebook and so far i have face no such overheat issue. Am I just plain lucky or its Intel marketing ploy?
andrekua
Nov 15 2008, 02:54 PM
Centrino is just a branding. Therefore it doesnt matter if its old or what. Its just a few specifications that manufacturers have to adhere to in order to qualify for the branding.
trustgtr
Nov 22 2008, 12:28 AM
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