REFERENCE:
http://www.htc.com/www/product.aspx
http://www.etencorp.com/products/index.php
[url=http://www.mwg.com/index.aspx]http://www.mwg.c

WHY DO PDAPHONES/POCKETPCPHONES OWN A NORMAL PHONE?
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/781108
Gaming = http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/671784




BUDGET RANGE:

Brand Preference if any: Eten / HTC / Ipaq / O2 /Others like Gigabyte etc please specify. Delete this line if u wanna consider all

Second hand: Yes/no

maximum how long ago released: Delete this line if u dun give a hoot, and just want value for your budget

QWERTY keyboard: Yes / no

Keypad: Virtual / Hardware (most pda phones are virtual)

GPS: Yes / no

Bluetooth: Yes / no

WIfi: Yes / no

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: Yes / no (relates to warranty, and the type of band Pdaphone running on)

Camera Resolution minimum:

Expandable Memory: Yes / No

3G : Yes / No

HSDPA or higher: Yes / No

Front Camera: Yes / No

Gaming Type: Light gaming / Heavy Gaming (if u think u wun game, considered light gaming)

Screen Resolution: VGA / QVGA / I dont give a hoot











IF Any in that template u feel that its NOT IMPORTANT

EG: QWERTY Keyboard, u feel its not important, u wanna concentrate on other features, then please say NOT IMPORTANT, so we know its not a priority. Of course, a yes/no definite answer allows us to give better answers

BUDGET RANGE: Below 2.8k

Brand Preference if any: HTC

Second hand: no



QWERTY keyboard: Yes

Keypad: Virtual

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller: no

Camera Resolution minimum: 3 mgpixels

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

Front Camera: Yes

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: VGA / QVGA / dun care....

Nice. There's only one PDA by HTC that currently fits all your requirement, and thats HTC Tytn 2. Please refer to the garage sale section for best prices, as its constantly being updated, and we have no idea who offers the best price since its up to the individual sellers to set the price.

lol.. some1 sounds pissed
yea.. i understand too.. sometimes it takes around 2 pages just to know wad the person wants LOL

Thread closed, please copy and paste template above when requesting what pda u wanna get.

why dont use this thread as the place to ask for recommendation.

if not, if 10 people come in asking for recommendation, this sections will be filled with 10 threads asking for recommendation for themselves, overshadowing other topics.

BUDGET RANGE: not important

Second hand: no

QWERTY keyboard: Yes

Keypad: Virtual / Hardware (most pda phones are virtual)

GPS: not important

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no (relates to warranty, and the type of band Pdaphone running on)

Camera Resolution minimum: not important

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: not important

Gaming Type: Heavy Gaming (if u think u wun game, considered light gaming)

Screen Resolution: VGA

*support document edit, excel, to do list, calendar, organizer, pdf, EMAIL! (is it too much? )

the document edit stuff all calendar organiser even the most basic PDA can do wan, dun worry.

Hmmm....hard to give recommendation since u no budget. Lets see, since no budget, and u want heavy gaming VGA device, PLUS expandable memory i'd say u'll have to wait for the coming HTC Touch Pro with qwerty keyboard. If u can live with 4GB internal non expandable memory like me with no qwerty keyboard, u can go for HTC Touch Diamond.

as far as i know, those are the two only options u have now because of "VGA", "hard gaming" and "HSDPA or higher"

probably when the Touch Pro will release n cost how much? how bout the latest price for Touch Diamond? i thk i will need a keyboard cos will do a lot of emailing n office document work, a keyboard is better...

yes i agree, a keyboard is definitely better for u in that case. The touch pro i would estimate either late july or august. price i estimate maybe close to 3K give or take.

if u didnt want heavy gaming, i may recommend X1 Sony Erricsson Xperia, but its coming out late in the year

BUDGET RANGE:2.5k max

Second hand: Yes/no

QWERTY keyboard: no

Keypad: Virtual/touch

GPS: BIG yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no

Camera Resolution minimum:2mp

Expandable Memory: Yes / No / maybe. depends how big hd

3G : yes but not so important

HSDPA or higher: No

Front Camera: Yes. still can live without though

Gaming Type: moderate gaming

Screen Resolution: the more the merrier

Screen size: biggest possible for maximum movie watching experience (relatively)

Ah i see your priority is moderate gaming, and movie watching experience. For movies, i must tell u this, u need an EXTREMELY powerful pdaphone to play movies with huge resolution (like those which are extremely clear on your PC). And those pdas, are currently only the axims, which are very very old, and they're just pdas not pdaphones.

You'll have to convert those DVD quality movies into smaller resolution, meant for pocket pc. U can find many such applications via google if u dun have it yet.

So, now, i'm considering u're ok with that.

U have wide variety to choose from:

lets start with "with front camera" : u have the HTC P3600i, which is around 1.7k range brand new. It has everything u require as stated, but its QVGA.

An alteranative is Eten X800, good specs with VGA screen (QVGA stands for quarter VGA, so u can figure the resolution). But i believe its more expensive, at around 2k (i think) and the warranty support by the distributer, is not as good as HTC's SIS. SIS can repair for u in malaysia. Eten normally send back to taiwan for repair so can take damn long.

Both have front camera and 3G.

Both are newer models relatively. I wouldnt recommend going for Touch Cruise since it interferes with gaming with its Touch Flo. But u can check out Touch Cruise as well if you like.

Eten has older models worth having a look like p535, but it doesnt have 3G.

I dont recommend going for device with square screen cuz very very few games fit square screens

Without a front camera:

thanks for the info!

thanks very much!movie quality doesnt have to be huge in resolution.as long as its viewable without having to place it milimeters from my eyes (i mean the screen has to be big la).i put BIG yes for gps function up there.but not many have gps do they?i think htc got gps(free compared to paid gps on nokia).so what are you recommendations?

all the above models i mentioned before, i took all your specifications into account dont worry . All of em have GPS.

and no, i used to view videos on HTC P3600i, converted it into a pocket pc format video (for example, HOUSE M.D is only 70 mb in pocket pc format) and watched it flawlessly no problems.

also, all the above models do not have qwerty keyboard, since u didnt want it.

If u increase your budget just a hundred bucks, u can actually buy HTC Touch Diamond, the latest pdaphone by HTC. There is an official thread here u can have a look, just read the first two posts for a summary. Note : normal pdaphone battery around 1350maH but Diamond only 900maH. I did a battery review check it out. But if u dun have a car charger or u plan to be outdoors for prolonged time, then dun get diamond. Cuz then u need extended battery. Which is probably around 150. Means u increase your budget by 250 lol

wah u very good la.read your blog on htc diamond.quite impressive that thing.what is ur take on upcoming (dunno when) iphone 3g?for me the interface alone impressed me.the big screen's a bonus.i looking forward to buying it but i can't wait since my current phone is already nearing the end of it's life

LOL.. dont ask him bout iPhone.. he hates it

yea,i hate iphone lol. Its an overated ipod with phone function. thats it. its not running on windows mobile so there's little third party app u can install, and be sure that apple will only allow their own copyrighted stuff to be install on iphone to milk every last dollar from u

well said.. i kinda have a hatred to iPhones too.. but i cant say much.. my frenz all have it.. LOL.. so i main with it onny dont have to buy.. lol

haha sorry mah.im neutral in this.but the screen is huge!

yea i know, lol, but trust me a normal pda qvga is also ok.

Iphone's ONLY strength would be internet browsing. which now HTC Diamond can match

yeah net browsing.but i guess i have to go try diamond for myself.any chance i could get a diamond at a cheaper price?im kinda strict with my budget actually.or maybe i should wait till the price drops

best price i believe is 2588 by LYN user candccom

baronic u bought the td rm2588 is SIS ?

let me answer you, yes, the unit that candcom is selling is under SIS warranty..

[quote=Baronic,Jun 12 2008, 09:28 PM]
BUDGET RANGE: below 5K

[b]Brand Preference if any: o2/HTC or ???

Second hand: no

Minimum how long ago released: new released/ new arrival

QWERTY keyboard: Yes / no (not important)

Keypad: Virtual / Hardware (most pda phones are virtual)

GPS: Yes / no (not important)

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no (relates to warranty, and the type of band Pdaphone running on)

Camera Resolution minimum: 3 megapixel

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: Yes / No

Gaming Type: Light gaming / Heavy Gaming (not important)

Screen Resolution: VGA / QVGA / I dont give a hoot/ whatever the best
IF Any in that template u feel that its NOT IMPORTANT

Note: I lost my DOPOD 838 PRO and happy with this PDA phones and looking for the up grade or any new released and new arrival of PDA phones.

[quote=wfr2310,Jun 17 2008, 06:57 AM]
[quote=Baronic,Jun 12 2008, 09:28 PM]
BUDGET RANGE: below 5K

[b]Brand Preference if any: o2/HTC or ???

Second hand: no

Minimum how long ago released: new released/ new arrival

QWERTY keyboard: Yes / no (not important)

Keypad: Virtual / Hardware (most pda phones are virtual)

GPS: Yes / no (not important)

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no (relates to warranty, and the type of band Pdaphone running on)

Camera Resolution minimum: 3 megapixel

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: Yes / No

Gaming Type: Light gaming / Heavy Gaming (not important)

Screen Resolution: VGA / QVGA / I dont give a hoot/ whatever the best
IF Any in that template u feel that its NOT IMPORTANT

Note: I lost my DOPOD 838 PRO and happy with this PDA phones and looking for the up grade or any new released and new arrival of PDA phones.

[/quote]

upgrade from 838pro?

Have a look at tytn2, or wait for 1-2 months and look at HTC Touch PRO

yea.. its best to wait for the touch pro since ur budget is 5k.. but if u cant wait.. den get the TyTn II or the new MWg Zinc.. it looks quite nice


btw, i think TD at RM2588 is the press price.. LOL.

BUDGET RANGE: ard rm 500--600
[b]Brand Preference if any: o2/Dopod/hp

Second hand: yes

Minimum how long ago released: dont care

QWERTY keyboard: (not important)

Keypad: (most pda phones are virtual)

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Camera Resolution minimum: 2 megapixel

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: Yes

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: VGA / QVGA / I dont give a hoot/ whatever the best


Note: I have found 3 of the pocket pc withhim my budget
1:Dopod 818 Pro
2:O2 Xda Atom
3:Hp 6828rw

please advise me which one are the better among the 3?

As what I see all the phone model you listed don't have built-in GPS. But in your preference you stated GPS : Yes. Please confirm back...

yes..those phone doesnt have 3G

well is ok for me..as long it have wifi ...

anyways i alrdi do the research..

02 Atom have 400+ processor mhz and do hp 6828
dopod 818 pro only 200 mhz

does it make a huge different?

dude.. he was saying bout GPS, not 3G :S

no gprs?

i have check Specification for those 3 phone..

GPRS Class 10 (4+1/3+2 slots)

those do have gprs on it..
just dun have 3G..

lol, he said G.P.S. Not GPRS

GLOBAL POSITIONING SATTELITE.
in your requirements u stated it as a yes. GPS is to use with a mapping software to show u directions.

Does this mean u DON'T want GPS? cuz all the models u stated do not have GPS.

Bro...

Better do some homework before wishing something....

Here I attach link to Wikipedia regarding that thing you get confused
1. GPS
2. GPRS
3. 3G

Hope this can help you out

wow, good thread!

After i read this thread, i am really interested on HTC TYTN 2.
Can i know the market price for the brand new?

around 2.5k if im not mistaken

hmmm what about for starters ?i am very new to PDA phones....basically PDA phones are like mini computers but honestly what can it do that other phones cant do ?

chian ping, please read the first post. as for wat it can do/ cannot, is browse files, microsoft documents, push e mail, other standard phone apps, install 3rd party applications . just GOOGLE for "pocket pc applications" and u can see all that a pda can do

helllo sifu here..

under a fewday research and nego
i will get a 02 XDA ATOM very soon..but it used..


for getting a pda used..
what are the point should i pay to watch out..
dead pixel on the screen?
function is it work well?

but the owner told me that,this pda battery wont last long period..while playing or connect to wifi..
is it true?

please sifu here give me some advise..
your advise will be apperciated..

Hi Baronic,

I'm looking for a PDA phone for my father. The budget is around 2-3k

Brand Preference if any: Few frens recommended HTC, so HTC i guess

Second hand: Preferably new

QWERTY keyboard: Yes

Keypad: not sure which is better

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes

Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: Yes

Camera Resolution minimum:

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : Yes

HSDPA or higher: Yes

Front Camera: Yes

Gaming Type: Light gaming

Screen Resolution: VGA / QVGA

I have a few additional questions. Does today's PDA have a handwriting recognition? If yes, then how good is it?
2nd-> I went to HTC website and they have 3 categories of phone: Touch phone, PDA phone and Smart Phone.
Can u please explain the differences? Does it mean Touch phone and Smart phone don't have PDA capabilities? Thank you very much for your help!

the battery part is normal.. PDAs use more power than regular phones.. so they can nvr be compared
look at the condition of the phone.. test it out.. take ur time.. make sure everything is working.. try out the buttons, screen.. bla bla bla.. just the regular stuff..


err.. can i ask wad does ur dad do? like, he's gonna use the PDA to input alot of data and stuff? if so.. its better with a QWERTY keyboard. i think the best HTC device u can get now is the TyTn II.. its made for business.. got business card recognition software bundled too..


and to answer ur question, PDAs have handwriting recognition.. its called Transcriber.. its actually quite good.. but i still prefer using the virtual keyboard if there is no hardware option.

bout HTC's categories, Smartphones are some sort of a PDA, but it doesnt have a touch screen.. Touch devices are those with built in TouchFLO interface ( correct word to use a? ).. examples are such as the HTC Touch Diamond.. its more towards the user not using the stylus to execute stuff using the touch screen.. PDA Phones, are the normal ones.. without a built in TouchFLO interface.. but u can still put it in if u like..

hope this helps

rite thanks man !

@flyhalf, wat dadarouch said is correct. i also recommend the tytn 2, but, show your dad and let him handle a bit first, since not everyone likes the extra weight. i recommended my dad a qwerty keyboard pda as well, but in the end my old man couldnt stand the extra weight, and settled for Touch Dual.

i recommend u call SIS and see if any sets to hold and feel. they should have. also, not all HTC are Quadband for constant travelling. ask SIS which model is Quadband. Triband devices dun work well in US and Japan. EDIT: they dun work at all lol

BUDGET RANGE:

Brand Preference if any: Asus, Palm

Second hand: 1st hand

QWERTY keyboard: no

Keypad: virtual

GPS: Yes

Bluetooth: Yes

WIfi: Yes
Frequent Overseas traveller to Japan and US? or other countries: no(relates to warranty, and the type of band Pdaphone running on)

Camera Resolution minimum: 2.0

Expandable Memory: Yes

3G : No

HSDPA or higher: No

Front Camera: Yes / No

Gaming Type: Heavy Gaming (if u think u wun game, considered light gaming)

Screen Resolution: I dont give a hoot

budget range? "Second hand: 1st hand" = im assuming brand new? and "(if u think u wun game, considered light gaming)" wut u mean by this? anyways, if u want a virtual keypad and NO QWERTY, u can cross out Palm.. bcoz they all have QWERTYs.. so ur left with ASUS.. now u just need to tell us ur budget and revise some stuff as i have stated above before we can help u out..

Prefer 1st hand..Budget max can go is 1.8K..
Gaming not that important as can use notebook to game.
Now in mind i have N82, Asus P527, HP iPAQ 600(from HP malaysia, or it's 612?) Can't make up my mind now..And do u know the price for these 3 models now?
Thank you!

thanks dadarouch and baronic for ur advices. so let me get this straight. both HTC smart phones and PDA phones don't have TouchFlo unlike the Touch Phone right? so what's the difference btwn Smart phone and PDA phone? but all 3 types have PDA functionalities correct? Sorry if i asked too much bcz i planned to get the Touch phone for myself, but what's the use if it doesnt have PDA functions, right?

Anyway, i think my dad gonna use it mostly for business purposes and works (he's a businessman).so the keyboard will greatly help. i'll take baronic advice and ask my dad if he's gonna be comfortable with the weight. maybe i'll recommend the Touch Dual to him too (hopefully the Dual have all the PDA functionalities just like the Tytn II). As u guys can see I'm really a noobie when it comes to PDA phones.

Smart phone is without touch screen and PDA phone is with touch screen. Touch Dual is a PDA phone, so it has all the PDA function except Wifi.

@squareballs: at that price, forget all the models u mentioned, go for HTC P3600i. I strongly recommend it against all the before mentioned models. Its a real powerhouse.

@Flyhalf: the TOUCHFLO is a gimmick, its just the different user interface HTC created for certain Pdaphones. Thats all. and yes, Touch Dual is a PDAphone, and it can do everything a pda can, unless u see the specs stuff like no wi-fi la.