Most of the cars, such as Honda City and Kelisa do not really need to pump in petrol with RON 97 rating. With the rising petrol price, we can save by using RON92 if our vehicle can use it (please read your car's user manual to find out).
The current price of RON 92 is RM 1.90, which is cheaper by RM 0.10 compared to RON97. It may ends up you can save a lot in the long term if you choose RON92 from now on.
Example if a person pump in 100L of fuel per month, total savings per month = RM 10, per year = RM 120.

Please do list down any petrol stations that do sell RON92 since it is quite hard to find.

I start the list here, please continue with follow the format:

1) Penang, Dato Keramat Road, Esso
2) Penang, Burma Road, Mobil
3) Penang, Jalan Masjid Negeri, Mobil
4) All Caltex
5) Melaka, Shell beside Empire Hotel


I had tried RON92 in both my car Kelisa and Honda motorbike, didn't noticed any difference in the performance or encountered any problem. If you are worried about the myth that RON92 makes your engine dirtier, use Caltex Techron since both of them have the same additives.

Warning: Use RON92 only when you are sure your vehicle can runs on it!

Some interesting article to read:

What's the difference between premium and regular gas?
[Some automotive types claim that using premium in a car designed for regular will make the engine dirtier--something about deposits on the back side of the intake valves. I've also heard that slower-burning high-octane gas produces less power when used in ordinary cars. Believe what you like; the point is, don't assume "premium" means "better."]

Honda Civic 1.8 using RON92

erm

actually my fren working in the workshop said

if use rom92 makes u engine more dirty

and when u service that time sure will above rm100

so better dun use?>

correct me if i wrong

carbie can use.. nede to adjust a bit only

adjust wat?

distri... coz might got knocking/pinging sound

Read this from motortrader

if so worry, every month pump once RON 97 to "clean up" lo

lolx

i cant read finish(hate words)

by the way, u call me read bcuz?

or wat u wan to tell me?

quote:

Many motorists have not purchased cheaper RON92 even though their car engine may be able to use it either through ignorance, lack of understanding and even being discouraged by pump attendants who often call this grade of fuel 'Lama' (old). However, there are also valid reasons why some motorists have avoided RON92 even though it can be used for their car. This concerns the additives in RON92 petrol which vary from company to company. The additives are a vital part of the formulation and help to keep the inside of the engine (especially the fuel delivery system) clean so it runs efficiently. It is these additives, upgraded from time to time, which are often the subject of advertising claims of 'cleaner running', 'better fuel economy', etc.

Chevron Malaysia gives the same additive package, called 'Techron', in both its RON92 (Silver) and RON97 (Gold) petrol. The Platinum grade is not sold in Malaysia.

The thing is that because it was perceived in earlier years that RON92 was used by 'low-tech' engine like marine engines, lawnmowers and motorcycles, the petroleum companies felt that it was unnecessary to spend extra money on additives and according to a source in one company, there is almost no additive in that company's RON92 petrol.

Companies like Chevron Malaysia do, however, provide an identical additive package (which the company calls 'Techron') for both grades of their Caltex fuel. As such, the superior benefits which are advertised are not limited only to the RON97 grade. The other company known to also adopt the same approach was ProJet, which is no longer in business here.
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Not sure about Esso and Shell though regarding the additives added in their Regular RON92 fuel whether they used the same approach as Caltex (good for us)

means my friend saying is correct?

Nope, if a person is pumping RON92 from Caltex, others not confirm

i know petrol RON92. at my hometown oso got i petrol pump
Kedah, Alor Setar, Shell besides Mardi jln kuala kedah

i understand liao

thanks

How it make the engine more dirty ? Is it lower purity ?

Sarawak - Kuching Zone till Serian

Shell - Yes
Petronas - None

SUBANG JAYA
PETRONAS USJ 2 (but Limited pumps only, have to look carefully for old pumps)
BHP SS18 (CKL workshop,franchise, NEXT TO THE MAIN ROAD GOING TO SS19)
BHP (NEXT TO SUBANG JAYA BUDDHIST ASSOCIATION TEMPLE & AFTER THE FLATS)
Mobil SS14
Caltex SS14

Want Good FC? Try BHP. I'm trying now (the 97RON) on my Nissan Sunny. Petronas Primax also not bad, but long time I have not tried 92RON. I'll be filling up 92RON and feedback to you, Yeapy.

Tried on Honda City @Petronas 92RON and confirm it works well.

For carbie owners, if your engine is pinging or jerking, dont panic. Just re-adjust your ignition timing and "Retard" it slightly. This is because your previous setting was suitable for 97RON, which requires more advance timing.
If your car is happy even with 92RON, then continue with it. There is no petrol quality compromised.

If you are so phobia about your fuel injector clog up (EFI) or carburator getting dirty, change your fuel filter on time,and not go all phobia about 92RON being dirtier. Rubbish myth.

Off topic advice: I am switching down to 10W-30. Currently using SAE40 monograde diesel oil and some (top-up) oil of BHP 20W-50. I feel the drag and FC drop with some 20W-50 oil compared to SAE40 and even 10W-30.

Caltex in Jalan Genting Klang near Wangsa Maju

Esso:

BT3 Jalan Kg Jawa, Klang
Opposite UITM Sek7, Shah Alam
Batu Tiga (KL bound) on Federal Highway
Jalan Tun Razak

Shell behind wangsa maju carrefour.
BHP petrol station at pandan jaya.

8 cent difference not much. If about 30cent - 50cent then I might consider.

Some and not all RON92 sold by petrol dealer are the same.Yes you are right in this that a majority of petrol dealer do not add as much addictive into RON92 fuel as they do in their premium fuel.

Only Caltex add the same amount of fuel addictive in RON92 as they do in RON97 fuel so don't worry about it.Other petrol dealer I am not so sure.

Using RON92 does not essentially make your engine dirtier.Its just that petrol dealer put less fuel addictive which is the only thing that differentiate their fuel with other petrol dealer.

So if you use RON92 fuel,you may not get the same engine cleaning addictive added in RON97 premium fuel by the major petrol dealer.

kuantan
shell beserah

if u all are using carb car and using RON 92...my advise is to adjust ur timing to 6

my kelisa work very well with ron92.

btw . as what zeist mentioned... its just rm0.08 different with 'premium'... perliter... why bother to downgrade....

if 40cent different thats different story

kelisa 35L full tank.. rm2.70 x 35 vs rm2.30 x 35.. u do the math laaaa around rm15 different for each fillup . . 8x permonth already = 120 different... but rm0.08 different... ah.. nonsense

Agree with detomaso...the RM 0.08 difference is abit small to worry bout. According to the threadstarter's usage of 100L permonth and RM8 per month saving, it's probably a waste of effort to go RON92. Unless of course u travel alot

I think it's pointless also for anyone to discourage others to go RON 92 and say it's "pointless" and goto the extend of saying such high-level of discouraging words such as "Nonsense" .
If the user can afford the higher octane RON, by all means, go ahead.Dont discourage others to use em'.
(BTW..I've already pumped my RON 92 into my tank today.Happily enjoying 8 sens cheaper)

So then what about the "diesel" owners for now? Would everyone now say "Now its pointless and nonsical" to go for diesel and says "I agree that it's just 10 sens differences now".
I will still say "No" cause although diesel fuel is now already close to petrol price, but because diesel engine are more economical and more fuel efficient in FC terms, they are still widely recognised for these few key points.

If only PROTON reintroduce their Diesel cars but in their new PERSONA or GEN.2 with a newer generation of diesel, in this kind of situation , it will encourage others to go for diesel. Probably sales of SAVVY will go up for them.
But unfortunately the Malaysian govt. is currently blinded by the increased and abundance of profit they are getting from Proton with the new RM 2.70 price.Thats for sure.

Malaysia need to upgrade the quality of diesel from Euro 1 standard to Euro 4 first before talking about encouraging people to buy diesel cars. Diesel car can be even greener than those biodiesel and hybrid, search yourself for Hyundai Getz 1.5 CRTD diesel.

I know RM 8 per month (assuming you pump 100L per month) is just a small amount to some of you, not even a scoop of haagen dazs, but to some people it can be breakfast of 2 pieces roti canai and 1 cup of teh tarik for 2 days...

It is silly to think just because you pay 8 cents more per liter and you will get "premium" petrol

later u service u need pay more than waht u saved

Hearsay. My car has gone round the world (40k) using mainly ron92 petrol. No problems at all.

@detomaso ceh.. for wat u use normal ron97.. pump v power lah, 15c difference only..

Petronas dont have RON 95 in town areas. Mobil I see selling, Shell dont have. They sell super and extra or whatever which higher than Ron 97.

ceo684 what petrol station that u usually go to? Esso/Mobil?

V-Power is RM3.15 leh, 45 cents difference from RON97

Many people still have the thinking that RON92 is inferior, dirtier, will damage your car, low class/poor people fuel's thinking after so much explanations in the first page... haizz...

there's once I accidentally pumped RON92 for my Kelisa Auto without realizing it's RON92 instead of my usual RON97

I did feel my car is having less power and less umph, especially when going up hill, and I was wondering why the hell the sudden loss of power. I even asked my mechanic fren to have a look and everything is normal.

Until I found the petrol receipt and realize I was using RON92.

My car went back to normal after I pumped back RON97.

Maybe my car already got use to drink RON97 and doesn't like RON92

Which petrol station did u went ? May be that petrol station that u went don't have fresh RON92 petrol coz not many people using it

Caltex beside Chai Leng Complex at Chai Leng Park, Penang

Normally pump Esso/Mobil. Good mileage in terms of km/L. Vpower about the same or slightly better km/L but $/L makes it unuseable.

Considering that I seldom use more than 2.2k rpm and rarely above 3k rpm, no point using expensive petrol anyway.

btw.
ron92
is it good for motorbike tat always go for full throttle?

I am also using Esso/Mobil, so can consider Esso/Mobil RON92 have the same additives IMO since both of us are happily using it without problem.

Would be glad if anyone willing to call to their office and clarify whether is there any difference in additives added into RON92 (synergy regular) and RON97 (synergy F1).

Menara ExxonMobil, Kuala Lumpur City Center
50088 Kuala Lumpur
Malaysia
Tel: 603-2053 3000
Fax: 603-2053 3400

I found some interesting statement on their webiste:

Malaysians who own vehicles with high compression ratio engines may opt for synergy F-1, a high-octane premium unleaded petrol (minimum 97 RON).

Synergy Regular is a lower octane unleaded petrol (minimum RON92), which enhances engine performance in lower compression ratio engines, such as two-stroke and four-stroke engines.synergy Regular is a lower octane unleaded petrol (minimum RON92), which enhances engine performance in lower compression ratio engines, such as two-stroke and four-stroke engines.

Meaning that you pay less to get more performance if your car is with lower compression ratio engines?

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Added on June 14, 2008, 6:30 pm

My Honda Kapchai using RON92 with all time full throttle doesn't experience any problem / performance loss

BHP Rahang Seremban

Offers Ron92. FYI, I juz got a reply from BHP Technical Engineer that their Ron92 and Ron97 have the same amount and same type of additives. Hence safe to assume that both offers the same "protection" for your engines in terms of their additives...

Personally have been using Ron92 on MyVI and observed NONE decrease in performance or vice versa so I'll be sticking to Ron92. Will try Caltex and possibly ExxonMobil next time... Caltex confirmed using the same additive for both Ron97 and Ron92 as per article in MotorTrader but hav yet enquire from ExxonMobil.

Should be noprob there using ron92, just test whether can rev full range (for automatic tranny car) or not. There is once time i pumped the pro***petrol which cannot seem to rev >5k when u floor the throttle.. while esso or caltex 6.5k full range

Wow! I didn't notice that yet... I'll try that tomorrow... Sakit hati leh when see my car redline

Do you mind to post the reply email ? Or you just ask through phone call ? Share with us

In the motortrader article it did mentioned that Projet doesn't use the same type of additives for their RON92, so this may cause your car's performance loss, probably that's why ceo684 can't rev his car >5k

Here's the first email they've replied:

from Tan Kwang Weng <kwang_weng.tan@bhpetrol.com.my>
to <psychict>
date Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 11:52 AM
subject Additives in gasoline

Hello Mike,



Thank you for your support of using our petroleum product.



It is my pleasure to reply to your recent enquiry regarding additives in our gasoline.



You are absolutely correct regarding the quantity and type of gasoline in both Ron92 and Ron97 – there are all the same in term of concentration and grade.



Thank you.





Yours truly,

Tan Kwang Weng

Technical Engineer

BHPetrol

Wow thanks for sharing!

Now we can at least confirm that Caltex and BHP are using the same additives in both their RON92 and RON97. Projet no longer exist so we can forget about it.

myvi can use as low as ron90. oh btw, in petronas bangi got ron92..in fasa 1 i think..nearby ukm hostel(flat).
but from what i heard..fc is not as good as ron97.

My pleasure~ Hav been using Ron92 on myVi and no drop in performance whatsoever... Unless it's @ 110km/hr+++ then I dun know...

My car cannot use RON92. My engine will jerk.

Engine knocking you mean ? Too bad you cannot save 8 cents / liter

Not designed to use ron92 then... DOesn't really matter anyway... Coz u wun actually see the savings unless u're VERY VERY thrifty with ur golden right foot

Ya, somewhere there.


Correct, you've a point there.

good, meaning BHP and caltex ron92 will be popular soon.
my fren's wira fuel cap got stated there at least RON95 (if not mistaken)

so i would like to ask, 6 yrs old iswara can use RON92 or not?
to be exact, this model ah........

caltex at equine park got ron92