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stimix
I hope that this is not a duplicating topic since no real discussion on intel E7200 although there is one on E8XXX peryn series.. blush.gif

The stock E7200 is actually a budget processor to the E8XXX series & having 1/2 of what those E8XXX series having..such as 3MB L2 Cache compare to 6MB L2. The following is the stock specs of this processor:

Code name = Woftdale. Core speed=2533Mhz, Mutiplier=9.5, Bus speed=266mhz, rated FSB=1066Mhz . Stock Vista score is at 5.4.

For my overclocking experience & history, I started wth a low budget MOBO Asrock Woftdale (Intel945 chipset) and it's such a dissapointement because the highest I can go is up to 310X9.5 or 2945Mhz. As a OC noob at that point of time, instead of changing the MOBO, I upgraded the HDF to Xigmatek HDT964. I was happy wth the tremendous reduction in the Temp but not OC!! It still no good & I can't bypass the 310X9.5 barrier!! mad.gif

No choice but to upgrade to P35 MOBO which I got it from a forumer here...ABit IP35P & that's how I feel that I should post the result here as well since I hv posted my OC experiences in hardwarezone singapore here: http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/showthre...=1950140&page=4

Nevertheless here is my latest at 3800Mhz Vcore 1.275V (Avg load temp 55C) & will continue further & targeting 4000Mhz or even 4500Mhz soon... biggrin.gif rclxms.gif


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mfcm
erm think this can join intel penryn thread..nonid to make new thread nod.gif
stimix
Sorry moderator for re-opening this topic again...but the other thread availbale is only discussing on E8XXX series which is entirely different from E7XXX series which is a budget processor hmm.gif

Even Hardwarzone Singapore is having a separate Topic on E7200 hmm.gif ....Nevetheless I hope moderator to rethink because I do need feedback from E7200 users & not those E8200 or E8400 users... hmm.gif
mfcm
QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 6 2008, 03:32 PM)
Sorry moderator for re-opening this topic again...but the other thread availbale is only discussing on E8XXX series which is entirely different from E7XXX series which is a budget processor  hmm.gif

Even Hardwarzone Singapore is having a separate Topic on E7200  hmm.gif ....Nevetheless I hope moderator to rethink because I do need feedback from E7200 users & not those E8200 or E8400 users... hmm.gif
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hehe sorry bout it coz jus gv advise since its included in penryn fam..C2D even differ type of e84,e82 or e85..even xeon n C2Q discuss there laugh.gif yea myb better for mod to clear it nod.gif
ktek
already purchase a E7200 too
awaiting mobo rolleyes.gif
sempronic
QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 6 2008, 10:00 PM)
already purchase a E7200 too
awaiting mobo rolleyes.gif
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man....already got this topic ar??
kinda want to get this E7200..price cheap....same 45nm...just the cache is low....
so how far this baby can go? brows.gif
stimix
My above posting is the best I can go...i.e 3800Mhz on 1.3V Vcore. Further than this system unstable sad.gif sad.gif

It's on Abit IP35P Mobo & Xigmatek HDT SD964 HSF - Fantastic cooler ...on high load, temp maintained at avg 55C (Max62C) only & idle temp at 44C

Wondering anyone getting higher than 3800Mhz.. hmm.gif ..If yes what is the voltage? I tried up the voltage to 1.35V but stil failed.. sad.gif
QUOTE(sempronic @ Jun 6 2008, 10:12 PM)
man....already got this topic ar??
kinda want to get this E7200..price cheap....same 45nm...just the cache is low....
so how far this baby can go? brows.gif
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stimix
I reduced further the Vcore to 1.28V (BIOS setting=1.255V) and still stable at 3800Mhz. Temp further redcuced to 41C idle.

To get 4000Ghz (421X9..5)...Probably will try to increase the Vcore to 1.4V instead hmm.gif .by then my CPU vista score probbly touching the max of 5.9 rclxm9.gif
Amedion
QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 7 2008, 11:02 AM)
I reduced further the Vcore to 1.28V (BIOS setting=1.255V) and still stable at 3800Mhz. Temp further redcuced to 41C idle.

To get 4000Ghz (421X9..5)...Probably will try to increase the Vcore to 1.4V instead hmm.gif .by then my CPU vista score probbly touching the max of 5.9  rclxm9.gif
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Your CPU vista score will explode with that core clock ...
tkh_1001
QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 7 2008, 11:02 AM)
I reduced further the Vcore to 1.28V (BIOS setting=1.255V) and still stable at 3800Mhz. Temp further redcuced to 41C idle.

To get 4000Ghz (421X9..5)...Probably will try to increase the Vcore to 1.4V instead hmm.gif .by then my CPU vista score probbly touching the max of 5.9  rclxm9.gif
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omg...very nice proc....btw, waht is ur batch ar? brows.gif
stimix
Naahhh....just Vista score..nothing to do wth explosion.... biggrin.gif ..Even at 3800Mhz..idel temp is at above....Load temp =55C probably by reducing VCORE, load temp probably 52C...I am predicting at 4000Mhz & 1.4V, probably temp will be at the range of 48C & load temp 65C... hmm.gif hmm.gif

Yesterday failed..but I know someone in Singapore did it by reducing mutiplier to 8 & FSB to 500Mhz!! Vcore if I'm not mistaken..1.4V+... hmm.gif

Nevertheless...at 3500Mhz & above, the passmark CPU benchmark tool dun looks great anymore wth small number increment as u can see from the 1st post sad.gif


Here is the benchmark website..intereting one brows.gif

http://www.cpubenchmark.net/
QUOTE(Amedion @ Jun 7 2008, 11:17 AM)
Your CPU vista score will explode with that core clock ...
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SlayerXT
This is better than conroe
stimix
On stock, the reviewa at those OC websites rated this 1/2 cooked E8XXX series as in between E4700 & E6700 processors..but from this website:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html

The stock performance is actually better than the top conroe (E6750) which is running on 4MB L2 cache compare wth the 3MB L2 of E7200 rclxms.gif & it's ~RM150 cheaper than conroe E6750 & ~RM200 cheaper than E8400.. rclxms.gif

On oveclock stage..This is the one I can't believe..see the chart below:
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/overclocked_cpus.html

It's even higher than E8400 the fully cooked Woftdale... shocking.gif Nevertheless.I dun really believe that because at 3700Mhz, I only managed to score 2283 only (refer 1st posting) sad.gif which is abit higher than E8200 on overclocked stage thumbup.gif

OK latest on my overclock story...Although I'm able to run Vista core & Passmark score on 3800Mhz - but this Morning, I encountered cmos checksum error.. sad.gif ..so currently running at 3700Mhz only which I feel it's faster than running at 3800Mhz.. smile.gif



QUOTE(�layerXT @ Jun 8 2008, 02:27 AM)
This is better than conroe
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DaRkSyThE
im going to allow this thread but if i feel its of no use im sorry, im going to close it down
ive seen posts like"wah nice proc" and all that here.
spam has to stop.

thanks
LExus65
stimix, how high the FSB cna go, have u try it ?? may be u could do 500mhz x8

Darkshythe so generous, hehe boss any intention of trying this new proc??
tkh_1001
QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jun 8 2008, 12:49 PM)
stimix, how high the FSB cna go, have u try it ?? may be u could do 500mhz x8

Darkshythe so generous, hehe boss any intention of trying this new proc??
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i have tried mine on 510 fsb before stable.....i think if really tweak can go higher...will try to upload some ss when free... tongue.gif
OC4/3
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 8 2008, 02:03 PM)
i have tried mine on 510 fsb before stable.....i think if really tweak can go higher...will try to upload some ss when free... tongue.gif
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Your processor not good whistling.gif 510x9.5 i think is impossible laugh.gif
IcEMoCHa
wats the diff between 8 series and 7 series?.. 8 series shud oc much better right?..
stimix
U can check/compare the only extensive review of this processor here:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...uo-e7200_2.html

As said earlier, it is almost the same tech as E8xxx series except having 1/2 the L2 Cache of E8 series processore, no VT & running on 1066 bus frequency compare to 1333 on E8xxx..It suppose to the budget processor to E8 series and having better than earlier conroe E4700 of even better than E6600. (Cheaper too rclxms.gif )

QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Jun 8 2008, 03:26 PM)
wats the diff between 8 series and 7 series?.. 8 series shud oc much better right?..
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Added on June 8, 2008, 3:39 pmImpossible-leh....can't get anything higher than 400X9.5 sad.gif ..Maybe MOBO limitation or even cheap Mem RAM.. blush.gif ..hehe..moderator so kind oledi..allowing the only topic on E7 series... rclxms.gif Hope no spamming too.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(LExus65 @ Jun 8 2008, 12:49 PM)
stimix, how high the FSB cna go, have u try it ?? may be u could do 500mhz x8

Darkshythe so generous, hehe boss any intention of trying this new proc??
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Added on June 8, 2008, 3:51 pmWell, it's a small brother to E8xxx series..what u expect.. biggrin.gif ..Read thgis X-bit lab conclusion:

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I believe it won’t be too much to say that Intel prepared another remarkable product. From the user standpoint, the main advantage of Core 2 Duo E7200 is the fact that its launch reduced the cost of a new CPU with 45nm core. As a result, the new processor that came to replace Core 2 Duo E4700 raises the performance bar for mainstream Intel processors quite noticeably. Of course, it is not faster than Core 2 Duo E8000, losing about 10% to it, but it is significantly faster than Core 2 Duo E6550 and is just a little behind Core 2 Duo E6750. Moreover, Core 2 Duo E7200 boasts great overclocking potential and is capable of hitting frequencies close to 4GHz with just a few simple tricks.



QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 8 2008, 03:16 PM)
Your processor not good whistling.gif 510x9.5 i think is impossible laugh.gif
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tkh_1001
QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jun 8 2008, 03:16 PM)
Your processor not good whistling.gif 510x9.5 i think is impossible laugh.gif
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ask pak google n u will see somebody did with 1.9v......

n i didnt say i did it on 9.5 multiplier also.... i just say max fsb.... tongue.gif
Bigblock
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 8 2008, 04:04 PM)
ask pak google n u will see somebody did with 1.9v......

n i didnt say i did it on 9.5 multiplier also.... i just say max fsb....  tongue.gif
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1.9v bro sweat.gif dry ice run?
coolice
QUOTE(tkh_1001 @ Jun 8 2008, 02:03 PM)
i have tried mine on 510 fsb before stable.....i think if really tweak can go higher...will try to upload some ss when free... tongue.gif
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any chance to go more?
clawhammer
QUOTE(IcEMoCHa @ Jun 8 2008, 03:26 PM)
wats the diff between 8 series and 7 series?.. 8 series shud oc much better right?..
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3MB cache and 6MB cache difference
stimix
I managed to boot-up after increasing the FSB to 421X9.5 or suppose to be 3900Mhz & increasing the Vcore to 1.39V....,man idle temp shoot upt to 48-52C & load temp no joke...about 59-68C!! rclxub.gif

However not happy wth the overall result!! CPUz show that my core speed actually much lower..at ~1600Mhz only & boot-up time tremendously reduced... sad.gif ..Even if I reduced the multiplier..no help..I think to stay satble at 3800Mhz only sad.gif
a1098113
try not to reduce multipliers, play with default multipliers as much as you can unless its an extreme processor..
tkh_1001
QUOTE(Bigblock @ Jun 8 2008, 04:11 PM)
1.9v bro sweat.gif dry ice run?
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QUOTE(coolice @ Jun 8 2008, 04:19 PM)
any chance to go more?
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erm...this is the best i can do though....not pro at tweaking blush.gif
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a1098113
have u tried memset bro.. smile.gif by the way, ill join this gang soon tongue.gif the e7 gang biggrin.gif
tkh_1001
QUOTE(a1098113 @ Jun 8 2008, 05:03 PM)
have u tried memset bro.. smile.gif by the way, ill join this gang soon tongue.gif the e7 gang biggrin.gif
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erm...why memset?

don really get ur point there..... rclxub.gif
a1098113
well memset is pretty neat with tweaking the rams..
stimix
Haiz...right now keep on having CMOS check sum error msg during booting & all my OC, returned to original speed... sad.gif and that even I OC as low as 3600Mhz....haizz...dunno which setting that is in error....
pal33x
hye ts may i know what setting u put in abit mobo to achieve 3.8?
i plan to buy e7200 pair with offlimit or any1 can suggest me other mobo?
cuz my fren abit restart twice la.....
stimix
My setting @3800mhz:

Maintained the 9.5 mutiplier
increase FSB to 400Mhz
Increase vcore to 1.255V (or more but wathc out on increasing temp..For those intended to OC>3000Mhz.I think should change HSF)
Other voltages -maintained
DDR set at 1:1 (5-5-5-15)

Disable EIST & ....(Aiyah let me chk later)

QUOTE(pal33x @ Jun 10 2008, 02:05 PM)
hye ts may i know what setting u put in abit mobo to achieve 3.8?
i plan to buy e7200 pair with offlimit or any1 can suggest me other mobo?
cuz my fren abit restart twice la.....
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OC4/3
QUOTE(stimix @ Jun 10 2008, 02:28 PM)
My setting @3800mhz:

Maintained the 9.5 mutiplier
increase FSB to 400Mhz
Increase vcore to 1.255V (or more but wathc out on increasing temp..For those intended to OC>3000Mhz.I think should change HSF)
Other voltages -maintained
DDR set at 1:1 (5-5-5-15)

Disable EIST & ....(Aiyah let me chk later)
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EIST and C1E
ahsiah
I came across that Intel going to release new stepping E0 for 8k series processor. Not sure will 7k series will get "benefited" or not. Anyone know?
SkywalkerxX
diff between 8 series and 7 series like darkshyte says is the CACHE..the bigger the cache,the bigger the potential to OC,but the bigger the cache with no OC is bloody hell USELESS..just like a 6 lanes highway with 1 car..

btw i just bought E7200,have to join this clan haha
coolice
QUOTE(SkywalkerxX @ Jun 15 2008, 12:43 PM)
diff between 8 series and 7 series like darkshyte says is the CACHE..the bigger the cache,the bigger the potential to OC,but the bigger the cache with no OC is bloody hell USELESS..just like a 6 lanes highway with  1 car..

btw i just bought E7200,have to join this clan haha
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are u serious about this?
cstkl1
yeah i also find that arguement not valid..

" the bigger the cache the bigger potential to OC"
usually its the other way around..
coolice
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Jun 15 2008, 01:08 PM)
yeah i also find that arguement not valid..

" the bigger the cache the bigger potential to OC"
usually its the other way around..
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for example? biggrin.gif
a1098113
i would rather rephrase that the bigger the cache the chances of getting a good run on superpi is better. In OC, the cache doesnt matter because you are manipulating the clock cycles and not the registers in the CPU. The ability for it to run on high speeds depends on the stepping and also the quality of the silicon wafer the proc companies use.
SkywalkerxX
QUOTE(coolice @ Jun 15 2008, 01:05 PM)
are u serious about this?
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paiseh..this terminology should be use for HyperTransport not CACHE... sorry sorry doh.gif A bigger cache only allows the CPU to store more data at any given time and reduces the number of times it has to go back to the system memory to look for data..


Think of the data paths that link all those things together as highways. If you try to fit too many cars down the highway, you get a traffic jam and some cars have to wait before they can get through. HyperTransport puts more lanes in the highway so more cars can flow through it. If you have two lanes, but only one car is going down the highway, adding a third lane won't make that car go faster. If you have a few thousand cars, but only two lanes, adding a third lane would make the flow move faster. I used wrong terminology...paiseh.. doh.gif
hengmy
the stepping will affect the oc capabilities. i dun think intel will produce E0 stepping for e7xxx serier, even C0 on e7xxx also quite imposible ~ mayb some bad batch fr e8xxx C0 will use to produce e7xxx.. lolx
rlhc17
mine batch Q815A471 VID 1.1V with Biostar Tpower I45

Maxxx boots......1.7vcore drool.gif watercool

fesick
wau rlhc17,suicide clock..
is your vdim at 2.2v?
OC4/3
QUOTE(rlhc17 @ Jun 24 2008, 01:58 PM)
mine batch Q815A471 VID 1.1V  with Biostar Tpower I45

Maxxx boots......1.7vcore drool.gif watercool
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Try 500x9.5 brows.gif
hong304
cpu v1.1x
past sp2004 @3.3g
i have no try add more voltage..
as i try it, it can be go to 3.6G @ v1.1xx, but very unstable...
-pWs-
How much your vDimm??
As i can see, your ram SPD is 800 @ CAS6.

-pWs-
CHEEKSEO
guys which is better wolfdale or yorkfield?

tq
-pWs-
Depend on your usage. smile.gif

Wolfdale = 45nm Dual
Yorkfield = 45nm Quad

-pWs-
Cyclone87
E7200 produce greater heat compare to my E8200. Can even hit up to 91C on TT big water.
ktek
got my mobo (MSI P35 NEO3)
still on tweaking
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