sniper69
May 24 2008, 12:33 PM
syazwanreno
May 24 2008, 12:38 PM
1st!!!!
sniper69 wannabe TS pulak....

anyway,
does the new catalyst got any improvement?
i dint upgrade my catalyst for quite a long time....
cloudwan
May 24 2008, 12:44 PM
I've installed Cat 8.5 yesterday but haven't tested playing any games yet...
So far so good ler.. Last time update from 8.3 to 8.4 i seen an improvement when playing Hellgate London..
syazwanreno
May 24 2008, 12:47 PM
QUOTE(cloudwan @ May 24 2008, 12:44 PM)
I've installed Cat 8.5 yesterday but haven't tested playing any games yet...
So far so good ler.. Last time update from 8.3 to 8.4 i seen an improvement when playing Hellgate London..
need to uninstall the old catalyst 1st right b4 install the new one? right?
pikacu
May 24 2008, 12:53 PM
@sniper69 , add some BIOS flash tools at 1st post
cloudwan
May 24 2008, 12:54 PM
QUOTE(syazwanreno @ May 24 2008, 12:47 PM)
need to uninstall the old catalyst 1st right b4 install the new one? right?
Well yesterday i was abit lazy so i just install without uninstalling the old drivers..
It worked no prob, just have to reinstall my rivatuner ler..
zhinsara
May 24 2008, 01:02 PM
hello. wow third version already, got many darkside people eh

so hows cat 8.5? 8.4 treated me better than 8.3 did.
tauruskong
May 24 2008, 01:10 PM
erm where to run the artifact hehe newbee here
Eyern
May 24 2008, 01:15 PM
I'm using it too. Mine is 3870.. bought it from zhenwei. Played COD4.. damn lawa the graphic.
pikacu
May 24 2008, 01:16 PM
QUOTE(tauruskong @ May 24 2008, 01:10 PM)
erm where to run the artifact hehe newbee here
Download ATiTool from
http://www.techpowerup.com site
sniper69
May 24 2008, 01:20 PM
it is better to get ATiTool 0.27 Beta 3 (there's no Beta 4 at this moment) and it's recommended to download
only from TechPowerUP, i found one, 0.27 Beta
4 which is turned to be fake...
http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.27b3.exe
Sib
May 24 2008, 01:20 PM
i alr installed it yterday, i usually jz copy paste the whole driver tho n haven't encounter any prob....
i ran 3dmark 06 n compare with the previous 8.4 n didn't have much improvement nor do i have a any prob so it's ok i guess
tauruskong
May 24 2008, 01:35 PM
is it normal to reach 91c
Added on May 24, 2008, 1:35 pmthere no error while doing the artifact but it reach 91c after 3min
sniper69
May 24 2008, 01:38 PM
QUOTE(tauruskong @ May 24 2008, 01:35 PM)
is it normal to reach 91c
there no error while doing the artifact but it reach 91c after 3min
91°C @what percent fan speed?
91°C within 3 minutes, i doubt that you can play game within 3 minutes, wonder if took longer... we pretty sure, don't want that right...
zhen^wei
May 24 2008, 01:56 PM
QUOTE(tauruskong @ May 24 2008, 01:35 PM)
is it normal to reach 91c
Added on May 24, 2008, 1:35 pmthere no error while doing the artifact but it reach 91c after 3min
can fry the egg already.
u take out ur graphic card.
and screw out the cooler. and clean the TIM and apply a new TIM (artic MX-2 if can.lol)
then screw back the cooler. make sure ur cooler copper base can touch ur GPU as well.
then check the temperature.
if no artifact in ATI tools. i dont think the card got problem with GPU.
pikacu
May 24 2008, 02:01 PM
QUOTE(tauruskong @ May 24 2008, 01:35 PM)
is it normal to reach 91c
Added on May 24, 2008, 1:35 pmthere no error while doing the artifact but it reach 91c after 3min
it is not normal...can fry egg edi....normally around 70*c for hd3870 full load
try to check ur fan speed too (can check using lavalys everest)
tauruskong
May 24 2008, 02:26 PM
I will try to open up the cooler tonight and i got that artic MX-2,is there any software to monitor n adjust the fan speed?where to download it? by the way the plastic shield look meldted already...damm my new rig make me head pain...thx for the advise man
choyster
May 24 2008, 02:50 PM
3870 Temp shouldnt exced 70c on load
pikacu
May 24 2008, 03:26 PM
QUOTE(tauruskong @ May 24 2008, 02:26 PM)
I will try to open up the cooler tonight and i got that artic MX-2,is there any software to monitor n adjust the fan speed?where to download it? by the way the plastic shield look meldted already...damm my new rig make me head pain...thx for the advise man
i suspect that ur fan is not working...by the way, ur cooler melted already?

try to go for rma ..
tauruskong
May 24 2008, 04:06 PM
My fan is spining mayb its on low speed is there any software to crank it up?..if send for rma have to wait a month again haizzzzz
pikacu
May 24 2008, 04:09 PM
You can monitor ur fan speed using Lavalys everest.
You can adjust/crank up ur fan speed using ATitool 0.27Beta3
jinaun
May 24 2008, 04:28 PM
i wonder whether can ATI implement driver control of the cooling fan.. via a speed control table on its CCC? to override the bios on the vga card
my 3870x2 is idling at 68C... and 58C if got fan blowing directly on top of the card
tauruskong
May 24 2008, 06:21 PM
my fan is running at 40% at 88c how to crank the fan spped up
syazwanreno
May 24 2008, 08:21 PM
my ATI CCC not working after update, install twice already.....
Ezonizs
May 24 2008, 09:48 PM
try install ATI 8.5 driver then run 3Dmark Vantage then you know
xen0
May 24 2008, 09:49 PM
QUOTE(sniper69 @ May 24 2008, 01:20 PM)
it is better to get ATiTool 0.27 Beta 3 (there's no Beta 4 at this moment) and it's recommended to download
only from TechPowerUP, i found one, 0.27 Beta
4 which is turned to be fake...
http://www.techpowerup.com/wizzard/ATITool_0.27b3.exewhy dun tell earlier laa..

i used that beta 4...its big time sux...lol..
*downloading beta 3 now*
AMDAthlon
May 24 2008, 09:52 PM
Haiz.How i wonder my card can be OCed..
Aeonical
May 24 2008, 09:57 PM
lolzz..tauruskong has same prob with me..Gc too hot..Till now it still stay at 80'C`90'C when load..
syazwanreno
May 24 2008, 10:05 PM
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 24 2008, 09:52 PM)
Haiz.How i wonder my card can be OCed..
All card can be OC...
but ..... you can try....
pikacu
May 24 2008, 10:09 PM
It is very-very weird...40% fan speed for Hd3850/Hd3870 shuld not go beyond 60*c while idle

as zhen^wei say, try to apply MX-2 thermal grease on ur card..
xen0
May 24 2008, 10:12 PM
hey pikacu...u still got that powahplay? i wanna try..plz email me the bios u r using..lazy laa to tweak it

xen0_86(at)yahoo(dot)com
syazwanreno
May 24 2008, 10:14 PM
btw, anyone got HD3870 default bios?
AMDAthlon
May 24 2008, 10:17 PM
= =
I cannot OC either CCC,Rivatuner and even ATi Tools
Aeonical
May 24 2008, 10:29 PM
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 24 2008, 10:17 PM)
= =
I cannot OC either CCC,Rivatuner and even ATi Tools

mayb..3450 not support oc?
amdathlon i help u find some information over net..
quote : I don't have 3450/3650 sample installed, probably overclocking is restricted at the Catalyst driver level. ATI already used a practice of locking o/c on low-end hardware, probably it's the case.
tauruskong
May 24 2008, 10:59 PM
Some time my fan speed will drop till 30% even at 70c..i try riva tuner buy dono how to use it hehe..i tell my hardware supplier they said they need to test it 1st wohhhhh
Added on May 24, 2008, 11:00 pmwhy i cant upload bipmap file? i wan to show u the temp meter at redline already rev kau kau my temp haha
Added on May 24, 2008, 11:01 pmhei aeonical try to look at ur graphic card plastic cover its deform for sure lol
Aeonical
May 24 2008, 11:11 PM
i look at the gc stored in box now..The plastic no deform but the aluminium base got abit not smooth..i mean the colour got torned off at some side...i think tauruskong ur gc got porblem...coz mine still able increase fan speed when it is hot..i try change my casing to cm690 to see if its help..
pikacu
May 24 2008, 11:15 PM
QUOTE(tauruskong @ May 24 2008, 10:59 PM)
Some time my fan speed will drop till 30% even at 70c..i try riva tuner buy dono how to use it hehe..i tell my hardware supplier they said they need to test it 1st wohhhhh
Added on May 24, 2008, 11:00 pmwhy i cant upload bipmap file? i wan to show u the temp meter at redline already rev kau kau my temp haha
Added on May 24, 2008, 11:01 pmhei aeonical try to look at ur graphic card plastic cover its deform for sure lol
it seems ur bios got something wrong

most of fan control problem is due to bios problem..
oh ya,
do not upload bitmap/*.bmp files, please change it to *.jpeg files first before you upload

you can upload it at here :
http://www.imageshack.us , or simply attach as File Attachments it along with ur post
Added on May 24, 2008, 11:16 pmQUOTE(xen0 @ May 24 2008, 10:12 PM)
hey pikacu...u still got that powahplay? i wanna try..plz email me the bios u r using..lazy laa to tweak it

xen0_86(at)yahoo(dot)com
email-ed already

Added on May 24, 2008, 11:19 pmQUOTE(syazwanreno @ May 24 2008, 10:14 PM)
btw, anyone got HD3870 default bios?
you can try to check at here :
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.p...face=&memSize=0
tauruskong
May 24 2008, 11:30 PM
is there anyway to update or repair my bios
AMDAthlon
May 24 2008, 11:31 PM
Last time i can OC using ATi Tools.Now i wonder WHY cannot..zz
tauruskong
May 24 2008, 11:37 PM
c the meter
xen0
May 25 2008, 12:16 AM
@pikacu
thanks for the bios..but i still dont get the powahplay feature..so weird..
pikacu
May 25 2008, 12:27 AM
QUOTE(tauruskong @ May 24 2008, 11:37 PM)
u shuld send ur card for RMA.....that is very dangerous temperature at load o_o"
QUOTE(xen0 @ May 25 2008, 12:16 AM)
@pikacu
thanks for the bios..but i still dont get the powahplay feature..so weird..

humm...weird, did the CRC value is same? O_O
syazwanreno
May 25 2008, 12:34 AM
QUOTE(pikacu @ May 24 2008, 11:15 PM)
Added on May 24, 2008, 11:19 pmyou can try to check at here :
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.p...face=&memSize=0ok, thx
tech_frix
May 25 2008, 01:34 AM
QUOTE(AMDAthlon @ May 24 2008, 10:17 PM)
= =
I cannot OC either CCC,Rivatuner and even ATi Tools

tell d long story bro...
details pls!!!
will see if can help or not...
AMDAthlon
May 25 2008, 01:48 AM
I am sure its hard u know la my card noob
tauruskong
May 25 2008, 02:07 AM
How long to rma a card...gadgetzone need at least a month.Last time i rma my mb it took 45 days with out my come im dead
clayclws
May 25 2008, 02:55 AM
Previously I posted on V2 that I could not run 3DMark Vantage 1.0.1 or 1.0.0 even with Vista Ultimate SP1, HIS HD3870 and Catalyst 8.5. The program just stop at the "INITIALIZING GUI" screen. Now I found out why.
I have to install the ageia drivers to make it work. If I uninstall it or do not select it for install in the first place, the program would not go beyond the "INITIALIZING GUI" screen. How f***ed up is that?!!!
Why the hell should I install the drivers of something that I do not even have to run the program WHEN IT IS NOT EVEN A PREREQUISITE/REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROGRAM TO WORK?!!!
pikacu
May 25 2008, 06:42 AM
QUOTE(clayclws @ May 25 2008, 02:55 AM)
Previously I posted on V2 that I could not run 3DMark Vantage 1.0.1 or 1.0.0 even with Vista Ultimate SP1, HIS HD3870 and Catalyst 8.5. The program just stop at the "INITIALIZING GUI" screen. Now I found out why.
I have to install the ageia drivers to make it work. If I uninstall it or do not select it for install in the first place, the program would not go beyond the "INITIALIZING GUI" screen. How f***ed up is that?!!!
Why the hell should I install the drivers of something that I do not even have to run the program
WHEN IT IS NOT EVEN A PREREQUISITE/REQUIREMENT FOR THE PROGRAM TO WORK?!!!
there is some games that can run Physx Ageia without even need the hardware (only need software), maybe it same in vantage case.
yeah...the pre-requisite did not state that...but i just select typical install

Added on May 25, 2008, 6:44 amQUOTE(tauruskong @ May 25 2008, 02:07 AM)
How long to rma a card...gadgetzone need at least a month.Last time i rma my mb it took 45 days with out my come im dead
Usually a month. try to borrow pci-e display card or use on board display while waiting the card to be rma-ed.
Added on May 25, 2008, 6:44 amQUOTE(tauruskong @ May 25 2008, 02:07 AM)
How long to rma a card...gadgetzone need at least a month.Last time i rma my mb it took 45 days with out my come im dead
Usually a month. try to borrow pci-e display card or use on board display while waiting the card to be rma-ed.
tauruskong
May 25 2008, 10:15 AM
I email sapphire support ppl asking izzit normal to reach 85c they say NO sound like overheating
xen0
May 25 2008, 11:06 AM
QUOTE(pikacu @ May 25 2008, 12:27 AM)
humm...weird, did the CRC value is same? O_O
err...wut is CRC?
btw, the specs string..mine is XHD3870XTG4-E3
H2Qbut your bios is XHD3870XTG4-E3
S2P
H2Q?..S2P?
i'm using your bios now..
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