very unlikely.
dis gigantic chip cost is sky high..............
by the looks of current line up, there is not much space 2 squeeze in............

Hohoho, it's rare to find someone with so much money to spend on graphic card.

There must be someone rich in LYN who owns this card 

I can smell something de...

xpresside is hunting for new card lu@

I am still waiting for the killer mid end Nvida G200 base graphic card.G80 GTS PCB with 640MB Vram,45nm or 55nm 144SP G200 core and dual slot cooler,price at ~RM800 like 8800GT used to,i am sure will be 4870 killer when driver mature.

Nvidia’s GTX260 cards are hitting retail shelves today and if you are looking to buy one of these cards, don’t expect to get a good deal. At least we have not been able to spot a card at the suggested retail price of $399 today.

The cheapest GTX260 models appear to be EVGA’s cars with retails prices hovering around $435. XFX, PNY and Palit cards are slightly more expensive with an observed price range of $440 to $530. BFG cards are traditionally pricey and the GTX260 is no exception. These cards are currently offered between $575 and $750. At that point, you may want to consider a GTX280 card, which are on the market from about $645.

Nvidia’s GeForce GTX260 cards debut well above MSRP : http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38158/135/

ko ni wartawan bernama ke AP ke reuters? mcm2 news ko dpt..

One point four billion. That's how many transistors the NVIDIA G200 core consists of. If you take that many transistors and try to make a chip out of them with a manufacturing process limited to 65nm lanes, you're going to get a lot of faulty of chips per wafer. Yields were suggested to be low 40% before the launch and that the chip would become extremely expensive, $100-110. Even though this sounded a bit extreme, it might actually have been even better than reality.

The fact is that many NVIDIA partners have been left out after G200, simply because of a lack of chips. And the partners that do get cards are not happy with the margins. NVIDIA is trying hard to get the 55nm "G200b" out as soon as possible, but it doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon. G200 at 55nm should be about 470mm2, which should make room for about 120 dies on a 300mm wafer. Hopefully this will push yields closer to 50%, but NVIDIA is probably going to be satisfied with above 40%.

On top of that, NVIDIA's new Unilateral Minimum Advertised Price Policy (UMAP) has limited partners' playing field and minimizes competition between them. When NVIDIA at the same time decides to launch new cards based on existing cores, at lower prices, partners get upset over diminishing earnings. Add to that AMD's new RV770 chip is looking very tempting to some of these partners...

NVIDIA desperate for 55nm G200, upsetting partners : http://www.nordichardware.com/news,7897.html
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Hmm, once nvidia able to to make G200b, ATi will be doomed again?

the UMAP policy doesn't sounds nice..

You haven't forgotten 4870 x2 do you?

I am talking about next generation (RV8x0 vs G200b)

G200b rumored to be fully complete at Q4 2008/Q1 2009 , which is kinda same with ATi next chip to-be-release date (maybe rumor? who knows..)

They would need to create a card that can beat the 4870 x2 then, as gtx 280 is 20 to 30% greater than 4870 (or gtx 260, 4870 is on par with gtx 260), not to mention the die size is still huge with 55nm to put on 2 chips on one board. Some math here and there, 4870 x2 is going to be 1.5 times more powerful than gtx 280. They're going to need another success story to go against 4870 x2, if that ever happens it got to be the most powerful single core (or two, if nvidia changed their minds) cards.

As for ATi, all their high ends are going to be dual chips http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=c...d=8117&Itemid=1 , so they only need to go faster than their 4870 by another 20 to 30% (or maybe around 70-90% like how 3850 and 4850 compared  >.>) and bam, r8x0 x2 gets a card 1.3 times faster than 4870 x2, easily. Further calculations, it has the same performance as gtx280 sli.

All chip makers have an ace up a sleeve somewhere, so g200b might be good. I'm on ATi for this one though, good approach.

I am talking about next generation (RV8x0 vs G200b)

G200b rumored to be fully complete at Q4 2008/Q1 2009 , which is kinda same with ATi next chip to-be-release date (maybe rumor? who knows..)

4870xF (cheaper than single gtx280!) vs GTX280
2). The GTX 200 series power saving features do NOT work on an Intel platform. That’s right. I thought I was the odd one out when I saw countless other websites posting about the down-clocks and down-voltages, whereby the GPU settles at 300Mhz Memory to 100Mhz etc when no 3D app is running. What some of them failed to state was that they only achieved this on an Nvidia platform; while ALL the reviews out there failed to warn consumers that this does NOT work on an Intel platform at all. The writeups out there further confuse you by stating the downclocks are achieved in drivers, while only the full hybrid power features, i.e., shutting down the GPU and offloads 2D to the onboard IGP require an Nvidia platform. They just don’t know what they are talking about.

This was confirmed after a 30 minute phone conversation with an XFX engineer, the manufacturer of my GTX 280.

What this translates to is that all the idle power consumption graphs you saw on reviews over the GTX 200 series do NOT apply to an Intel platform. Again, out of the 15 odd reviews out there, not one, I repeat, NOT A SINGLE ONE, bothered to state this clearly. Whats the user footprint in the real world with an Nvidia platform? 0.1% of the PC population?

The GPU temp does drop back to the 50s while idling in Windows, but the clocks do not scale back, which leads me to believe there is no real power savings.

Power Saving Issue with GTX 280 on an Intel Chipset (x48):
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=...#post1032677354

2). The GTX 200 series power saving features do NOT work on an Intel platform. That’s right. I thought I was the odd one out when I saw countless other websites posting about the down-clocks and down-voltages, whereby the GPU settles at 300Mhz Memory to 100Mhz etc when no 3D app is running. What some of them failed to state was that they only achieved this on an Nvidia platform; while ALL the reviews out there failed to warn consumers that this does NOT work on an Intel platform at all. The writeups out there further confuse you by stating the downclocks are achieved in drivers, while only the full hybrid power features, i.e., shutting down the GPU and offloads 2D to the onboard IGP require an Nvidia platform. They just don’t know what they are talking about.

Nvidia slashed the price for GTX 200.

http://news.mydrivers.com/1/110/110209.htm

its expected coz the 4800 are a threat now...

Mountain House (CA) – It appears that AMD’s ATI Radeon 4800 GPU has turned out to be a much better chip than initially expected and AMD’s aggressive pricing puts enough pressure on Nvidia to prompt the company to react. If you are planning on purchasing a GTX 260 or 280 card, you may want to delay until next Monday. Price cuts are on the way.



Over the past several days we have spent some time with several Nvidia’s partners in the Silicon Valley and in Taiwan, which made it obvious that there are tensions between GPU manufacturers and add-in board companies. A raging price is put five companies on the verge of bankruptcy. We cannot disclose who almost kicked the bucket, but we were told that three vendors are still walking on very thin ice. 

With the debut of GeForce GTX 200 series, made some adjustments protecting its partners with greater margins, but the ATI Radeon 4800 series is changing that scenario again. AMD has received praise from the press for its ATI Radeon 4800 series, causing Nvidia partners to demand price adjustments. We were told that Nvidia finally stepped down from its pedestal and agreed to offer limited price protection for some products as well as price cuts.

We contacted Nvidia to get more details on this information and were provided with the following statement by Bryan Del Rizzo and Ken Brown, spokespeople for Nvidia:

"We’re working with our partners on adjusting the prices for the GTX 280 and 260. The changes are being implemented over the next few days and will take effect sometime next week. Please obtain final retail pricing from the partners, because they set them for their products."

The third sentence has to be taken with a grain of salt, a most partners complained to us about Nvidia’s Unilateral Minimum Advertised Price Policy, short UMAP, and the way it affects them. For the consumer, however, we have yet another example how well competition works. The race between the Radeon 4800 series and GTX 200 will ultimately drag prices down.

According to our sources, Nvidia cut the price of the GTX 280 by $90 and $30 for the GTX 260. Of course, that is a price cut Nvidia is handing down to its partners and does not reflect retail prices.

GeForce GTX 260 cards currently sell for $379.99 on Newegg ($399.99 minus $20 instant rebate on XFX, BFG and PNY cards), while GTX 280 cards sell for $619.99 ($649.99 minus $30 for the XFX board).

After Nvidia’s adjustment, we should see Monday prices going down to $359.99 for GTX 260 cards and to $559.99 for GTX 280 cards. Please note that we are not including the possibility for additional rebates that may be offered. For example, if you purchase PNY's GTX 280 from Newegg.com, you currently pay. After price cut, this might dip down to $479-499, lowering the price below $500 mark.

It appears that we might end up with permanent price brackets at $199, $299, $399 and $499. This would greatly simplify the search for the best possible graphics card at a certain point. Also, this opens the battlefield between single and multi-GPU setups: Could two boards for $199 provide more value than a single $399 or $499 card?

We are sure, hardware review websites are going to find out

300US at newegg for MSI GTX260 while price of Radeon 4870 is 309.99

I think that price will effect malaysia about 1-2weeks time ffrom nao

Asus GTX 280 selling RM2295. still expensive at the moment.

I doubt the shop with old stock wants to drop the price that fast

Just see 9800GTX price

Oh which shop selling that price? Asus comes bundled with Alone in The Dark right? Seeing the price cut, sellers here have to drop the price to about RM19XX-RM2000.