Anandtech? this is bad....

ASUS in trouble .. .. we need some explanation from ASUS ..

wahh....look like the romour is going to be the true one....

i like asus products but suprisingly no thier mobo....i prefer gigabyte mobo!P35-DS3 FTW

sad to hear on asus one...overprice and know lying summore...

true or not, international level companies cant simply accuse other of lies,
gigabyte seemed to have tested Asus' boards before presenting the 'truth' to the journalists.

Falsifying something might burn a few million bucks in sue money.
im more interested to see how Asus defend themselves.

Anyway for them to compete in this war, we the consumers shall benefit more...
if what gigabyte claim is true, im sure Asus will improve their product and surely
gigabyte will have to give even better quality to maintain their superior claim over asus.

u knoe la its like a BN n Opposition kinda thingy.
cant have one to maharajalela wan.

i will never trust asus again..
not because of this... but because my asus mobo died.. now still in RMA almost 1 month
also, i feel that my asus a8ne mobo is not stable as well..

Now, I need to rethink of other brand of my new mobo ... extended days again ..

lol
that wut gigabyte say
wait till asus say la dude
gigabyte sure say his product is the best...
btw im not asus fan ^^
i just use wut ever mobo that is good+price not 2k like asus haha

I better take the bad rumour as true until it's proven not true as a safety precaution

blablabla...
u guys buy the mobo come with epu?

right know we need to know what are going to explain bout this....

yup .. it's true .. this how it goes in marketing .. more competition means more innovation .. it will benefits us .. look at TM .. no competition no improvement ..

Bro, not to disagree with you, but i feel Gigabyte should have tested the Asus boards to a certain extent to be daring enough to disclose such information to public.
If these were baseless assumptions and accusations, they will get into big trouble.

From a neutral standpoint, it is a common practise in this industry where everyone only publishes what they feel will bring the best marketting benefit to them. This is what Intel is doing, so does many other players in this industry. However, this is no longer the case of disclosing whatever which is most beneficial, what they're doing here is considered as lying. It's just like if a company claims to be using Japanese Solid Caps and instead uses Cheapo Electrolyte Caps with Metal Caps whcih make them look like Solid Caps.

To me, i used to be impresses by Asus, but then started to be a little neutral on it. Well, after reading all these, i think it'll take me some time to reconsider on their products. It's not the quality which matters most to me, it's the ethics in this industry.

even gaygaybyte mobo is better overall me still can't tahan with its color..cacamerba one
Abit hardcore fan till end
ASUS??after knowing this,just say no to their product

yes just bought 1 last week. but my trust on asus suddenly fade always after saw this, somemore i not so satisfy with my asus board compare to gigabyte.

1 more interesting article regarding gigabyte des vs asus epu:
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1348/gig...sus_epu_tested/

mine is with EPU
but so far no problem wor.

EDIT:an interesting video.


and EPU vs DES

i'm using same cpu & motherboard as you. so far no problems encounter. but i dont really like the atx power location & ami bios. somemore the bootup at bios like takes too long.

agree...
but it doesn't bothering me...
as long as it work fine is enough.

lol the 1 who buy the product sure tak puas hati punya...
i cant say anything bout it since i do not spend alot of moneh on mobo ^^

each thing we buy of coz got sumthin yg kite x puas ati nye

the northbridge heatsink will block intel stock heatsink fan cable hook if u do not allign the heatsink properly.

ya..i think so.to meet eye to eye n prove it to tomhardware,gigabyte should long ago analysis on dat issues.
man..asus user might be hurt.asus come out wif many series...put EPU feature.i never thought it's fake info..

hmm... juz awhile ago, i tot Asus and gaygaybyte had a joint venture... or something... right?

so the joint venture... is to create such a drama in the ICT world?

ha ha, anything can happen..............
not long ago, AMD also use 2 b partnering wit nvidia................
look @ now, war in graphic.............

of course gigabyte is furious la, since dat dey r da 1 dat come out wit dat power saving solution 1st.......
all of a sudden, asus cheat ahead.........

haha, lol

OMG!!! i was thinking bout buying Asus mobo... lucky i havent buy... i dont have any Asus stuff in my comp! woohoO!!

EDIT.. eh my heat sink is asus lol

haiya...u guys...really trust gaygaybyte said thing a?this little bit rumour.....cannot defeat asus...as im using asus motherboard P4P800SE over 5 years......and processor at 70Celcius...i dun even have a capacitor kaboom...and still run rocks on my rig until now

wonder why acecombat does not want to post here.....yet

maybe he did not aware this topic

take note that, without a strong core/base, gaygaybyte won't make such fuss by using their own company names

you were right bro .. thumbs up for u ..

Asus didnt say anything?

did asus really claimed 80%?or i mistakenly read at their website.....

this is madness
i never bought asus mobo before
but for me gigabyte is not that good too

erm...maybe u should get a asus board and gaygaybyte board....then u will knw da differences..remember o..after done testing do donate to me

^ lol asus fanboy spotted

GigaByte since Pentium-II days till now... not a single board failed me, great stability.

Besides I had used ABit, ECS and PC Chips also...

Personally never used ASUS but some of my friends did...

had bad experience for Asus... P4 era bought a budget board... 1st uniit USB and PS2 ports dead, so next day balik change, 2nd unit Printer port dead, so go back again.. only 3rd unit working but only lasted a year b4 had to change again

lazy d so bought Gigabyte board, RMA asus board and kept as spare...

i support asus bcos....
the mobo design maybe.

i have used 2 gigabyte board , both based on 865 and 875 series chipset

the boards still works.. but the sub-componens is not working anymore.. such as usb and onboard audio

okay, for me this case is bad if proven true.
but how about those 500W Cap Ayam™ power supplies which also tell "BIG" specification?
yet still many people supporting them.
i'm neither fans on asus nor gigabyte

Cap Ayam™ and 'BIG' specification cannot mix.. its a common sense.. unless that person don't have any sense

Obviously a personal attack by Gaygabyte. They are so jealous with Asus, ever since. 2 years ago they joined Asus, then 6 months later, they came out saying the sales are not good enough for them. In fact, the mobo sales for GGB went up very high when they are together with Asus. Funny thing is, they managed to released their first Nforce board, after few months of joining Asus, good timing isn't it ?

I believed their intention is to "steal" Asus technology and then disband. In this market, you can do so much but you can never hurt Asus' sales. Their product are well-known for stability. GGB RMA rate are very high. You seldom hear Asus board getting RMA-ed, unless the end-user OC it or do something foolish that killed the board.

I'm using both GGB and Asus board here.

The thing Gigabyte is trying to say is that they only use Japanese-made solid capacitors in their range of motherboards that they claim to have solid capacitors installed, whereas Asus only uses Japanese-made solid capacitors in some of the motherboards, but not in all of their motherboard range that claim to have solid capacitors installed on their motherboards. That is what Gigabyte is trying to say. Not that all Asus boards don't use Japanese-made capacitors.

IMO, in the critical areas such as the CPU area, I believe Asus really installed Japanese made capacitors, they will use non-Japanese made solid capacitors in not so critical areas.

i dun really care about solid capacitor o not............
all my pc nvr been use long enough till capacitor burst............

wat bothers me is the how d EPU works..............
auto downclock & OC is fine bt i just dun like dat dey mess wit fsb & core voltage...........

i prefer 2 hav control over dat areas.......

swt i heard news this 2 company want to cooperate each other now there is shooting each other..........

i am confuse

They have co-operate before but it didn't worked out because GGB are too greedy for the market share. I doubt they can co-operate again in future.

If their product are really that good, they don't need to attack Asus's directly. When someone tell you the cake taste bad, if you fully believed what he said, then they already succeeded their objective.

It's the other way around for me. DES or EPU is not that important for me. It is because I run my CPU at full speed most of the time e.g. Gaming & etc.

You don't care about solid capacitor or not? I assume you are not an overclocker? These solid capacitors are very important for your system to run stably. What you meant was you don't care whether they are Japanese made or not is it? It's not that the capacitors burst or don't burst, who doesn't want a motherboard that has the quality to run for as long as possible?

If you are someone that likes to fiddle with BIOS settings or overclock your system, you don't need or want to turn on EPU/DES I suppose.

EPU or DES greatly relies on your FSB or VCore to save energy. So you should just turn it off if you happen to own a motherboard has this feature.